Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
02-12-2007, 03:15 PM
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Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
souza.jason@gmail.com wrote in news:1170994295.401337.26280
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> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
Whoah, man! I can't follow all that technical jargon! Don't expect me to
read a whole book to get your in depth analysis!
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> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
Whoah, man! I can't follow all that technical jargon! Don't expect me to
read a whole book to get your in depth analysis!
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02-12-2007, 03:19 PM
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Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
"Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
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news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
--
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02-12-2007, 03:19 PM
#43
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Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
"Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
--
Ask Me Why I support Stem Cell Research
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/faqs.asp
news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
--
Ask Me Why I support Stem Cell Research
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02-12-2007, 03:19 PM
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Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
"Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
--
Ask Me Why I support Stem Cell Research
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/faqs.asp
news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
--
Ask Me Why I support Stem Cell Research
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/faqs.asp
02-12-2007, 03:19 PM
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Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
"Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
--
Ask Me Why I support Stem Cell Research
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/faqs.asp
news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
--
Ask Me Why I support Stem Cell Research
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/faqs.asp
02-14-2007, 01:48 PM
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Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
02-14-2007, 01:48 PM
#47
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Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
02-14-2007, 01:48 PM
#48
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Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
02-14-2007, 01:48 PM
#49
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Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
02-14-2007, 04:40 PM
#50
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Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
The original Liberty's were almost perfect for the niche market at which
they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a very
different niche.
Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
If you want a 4 door Wrangler, buy one. You will find them longer, wider,
taller, and heavier than the WJ and have a smaller engine.
On a positive note they do offer an extra 1/5 inch ground clearance.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:EPIAh.273864$QY6.167640@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
> people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who
> have
> 4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high
> up
> driving position
> or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
> going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
> make a vehicle that I want to drive.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
>
>> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>>
> > Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
>
>
they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a very
different niche.
Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
If you want a 4 door Wrangler, buy one. You will find them longer, wider,
taller, and heavier than the WJ and have a smaller engine.
On a positive note they do offer an extra 1/5 inch ground clearance.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:EPIAh.273864$QY6.167640@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
> people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who
> have
> 4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high
> up
> driving position
> or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
> going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
> make a vehicle that I want to drive.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
>
>> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>>
> > Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
>
>
