Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
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souza.jason@gmail.com wrote in news:1170994295.401337.26280
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> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
Whoah, man! I can't follow all that technical jargon! Don't expect me to
read a whole book to get your in depth analysis!
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> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
Whoah, man! I can't follow all that technical jargon! Don't expect me to
read a whole book to get your in depth analysis!
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"Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
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news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
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"Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
--
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news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
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"Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
--
Ask Me Why I support Stem Cell Research
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/faqs.asp
news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
--
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"Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
--
Ask Me Why I support Stem Cell Research
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/faqs.asp
news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
Its not that hard to figure out, and that's why I have two of them. Its a
fine light to moderate duty SUV for people who spend most of their time
on the road, do enough off roading to justify 4X4, want a comfortable
package, and prefer a smaller wheelbase. Its more economical than my
previous SUVs, more comfortable than our farm trucks (where the actual HD
work gets done), easily holds 4 adults, but is far more capable than any
car on the road, and has a good view of the road to boot. Throw in the
fact that you can get all the bells and whistles for about $10K chesaper
than comparable Fords or Chevys (and have better mileage and turning
radius), and its a nice package.
--
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Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
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Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
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Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
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Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who have
4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high up
driving position
or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
make a vehicle that I want to drive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
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The original Liberty's were almost perfect for the niche market at which
they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a very
different niche.
Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
If you want a 4 door Wrangler, buy one. You will find them longer, wider,
taller, and heavier than the WJ and have a smaller engine.
On a positive note they do offer an extra 1/5 inch ground clearance.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
> people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who
> have
> 4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high
> up
> driving position
> or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
> going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
> make a vehicle that I want to drive.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
>
>> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>>
> > Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
>
>
they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a very
different niche.
Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
If you want a 4 door Wrangler, buy one. You will find them longer, wider,
taller, and heavier than the WJ and have a smaller engine.
On a positive note they do offer an extra 1/5 inch ground clearance.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:EPIAh.273864$QY6.167640@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
> people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who
> have
> 4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high
> up
> driving position
> or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
> going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
> make a vehicle that I want to drive.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
>
>> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>>
> > Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
>
>


