Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
Liberty's are lame.

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

Thanks for the in depth technical report.


<souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

Thanks for the in depth technical report.


<souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

Thanks for the in depth technical report.


<souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

Thanks for the in depth technical report.


<souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170994295.401337.26280@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
also it is being totally redone for the 2008 model. Supposed to make
it look more the like its "gansta window" stablemates.

You have no idea how lucky I feel to own an old CJ...

Good luck, Bruce

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
also it is being totally redone for the 2008 model. Supposed to make
it look more the like its "gansta window" stablemates.

You have no idea how lucky I feel to own an old CJ...

Good luck, Bruce

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
also it is being totally redone for the 2008 model. Supposed to make
it look more the like its "gansta window" stablemates.

You have no idea how lucky I feel to own an old CJ...

Good luck, Bruce

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
also it is being totally redone for the 2008 model. Supposed to make
it look more the like its "gansta window" stablemates.

You have no idea how lucky I feel to own an old CJ...

Good luck, Bruce

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

??? There's a '07 Liberty 4x4 for under $20K at my local dealer. Cheaper
than most of the Wranglers sitting there. Drove my '02 for three years
until I got my '04 TJ. I admit I like my TJ better, but had no problems
with my Liberty.

souza.jason@gmail.com wrote:
> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>

--
FRH

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

??? There's a '07 Liberty 4x4 for under $20K at my local dealer. Cheaper
than most of the Wranglers sitting there. Drove my '02 for three years
until I got my '04 TJ. I admit I like my TJ better, but had no problems
with my Liberty.

souza.jason@gmail.com wrote:
> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>

--
FRH

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

??? There's a '07 Liberty 4x4 for under $20K at my local dealer. Cheaper
than most of the Wranglers sitting there. Drove my '02 for three years
until I got my '04 TJ. I admit I like my TJ better, but had no problems
with my Liberty.

souza.jason@gmail.com wrote:
> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>

--
FRH

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

??? There's a '07 Liberty 4x4 for under $20K at my local dealer. Cheaper
than most of the Wranglers sitting there. Drove my '02 for three years
until I got my '04 TJ. I admit I like my TJ better, but had no problems
with my Liberty.

souza.jason@gmail.com wrote:
> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>

--
FRH

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

<souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>
They have real doors

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

<souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>
They have real doors

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

<souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>
They have real doors

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

<souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>
They have real doors

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

Real Jeeps don't have real doors <G>

Jeff DeWitt

McAlisters wrote:
> <souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1170994295.401337.26280@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
>>Liberty's are lame.
>>
>
> They have real doors
>
>

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

Real Jeeps don't have real doors <G>

Jeff DeWitt

McAlisters wrote:
> <souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1170994295.401337.26280@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
>>Liberty's are lame.
>>
>
> They have real doors
>
>

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

Real Jeeps don't have real doors <G>

Jeff DeWitt

McAlisters wrote:
> <souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1170994295.401337.26280@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
>>Liberty's are lame.
>>
>
> They have real doors
>
>

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

Real Jeeps don't have real doors <G>

Jeff DeWitt

McAlisters wrote:
> <souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1170994295.401337.26280@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
>>Liberty's are lame.
>>
>
> They have real doors
>
>

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

souza.jason@gmail.com wrote:
> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.

I disagree. The last Libby I looked at was an '06. Underneath, the
drivetrain looked to be very capable to me, and for mall-running, the
V-6 is fine. For city-dwellers, the ride is nice and there's plenty of
room inside for children. The model I looked at (2x4) was only around
$18k, which is very reasonable. My TJL stickered for $26k.

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

souza.jason@gmail.com wrote:
> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.

I disagree. The last Libby I looked at was an '06. Underneath, the
drivetrain looked to be very capable to me, and for mall-running, the
V-6 is fine. For city-dwellers, the ride is nice and there's plenty of
room inside for children. The model I looked at (2x4) was only around
$18k, which is very reasonable. My TJL stickered for $26k.

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

souza.jason@gmail.com wrote:
> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.

I disagree. The last Libby I looked at was an '06. Underneath, the
drivetrain looked to be very capable to me, and for mall-running, the
V-6 is fine. For city-dwellers, the ride is nice and there's plenty of
room inside for children. The model I looked at (2x4) was only around
$18k, which is very reasonable. My TJL stickered for $26k.

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

souza.jason@gmail.com wrote:
> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.

I disagree. The last Libby I looked at was an '06. Underneath, the
drivetrain looked to be very capable to me, and for mall-running, the
V-6 is fine. For city-dwellers, the ride is nice and there's plenty of
room inside for children. The model I looked at (2x4) was only around
$18k, which is very reasonable. My TJL stickered for $26k.

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

On Feb 10, 12:30 pm, Outatime <whokn...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> souza.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> > Liberty's are lame.
>
> I disagree. The last Libby I looked at was an '06. Underneath, the
> drivetrain looked to be very capable to me, and for mall-running, the
> V-6 is fine. For city-dwellers, the ride is nice and there's plenty of
> room inside for children. The model I looked at (2x4) was only around
> $18k, which is very reasonable. My TJL stickered for $26k.



I have a 02 which I use as my family ride. got not probs with it. It
does what I expect it to do. It's not a YJ or a TJ its just what I
bought a KJ..
My 02 cost me 25 its a limited fully loaded. Is paid off now more
money to throw at the YJ!!!

People gotta get off the senseless B**tching comparing a KJ to a YJ,
TJ or a Cherokee. It is what it is, don't buy one if you don't like
it. Move on, Go forward. Cherish your real Jeeps keep them goiing
thats what you need to do as "Real Jeepers"

I consider my YJ a classic and will do whatever I can to keep her
going. That said my KY as I stated above is just what I expected a KJ

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

On Feb 10, 12:30 pm, Outatime <whokn...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> souza.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> > Liberty's are lame.
>
> I disagree. The last Libby I looked at was an '06. Underneath, the
> drivetrain looked to be very capable to me, and for mall-running, the
> V-6 is fine. For city-dwellers, the ride is nice and there's plenty of
> room inside for children. The model I looked at (2x4) was only around
> $18k, which is very reasonable. My TJL stickered for $26k.



I have a 02 which I use as my family ride. got not probs with it. It
does what I expect it to do. It's not a YJ or a TJ its just what I
bought a KJ..
My 02 cost me 25 its a limited fully loaded. Is paid off now more
money to throw at the YJ!!!

People gotta get off the senseless B**tching comparing a KJ to a YJ,
TJ or a Cherokee. It is what it is, don't buy one if you don't like
it. Move on, Go forward. Cherish your real Jeeps keep them goiing
thats what you need to do as "Real Jeepers"

I consider my YJ a classic and will do whatever I can to keep her
going. That said my KY as I stated above is just what I expected a KJ

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

On Feb 10, 12:30 pm, Outatime <whokn...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> souza.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> > Liberty's are lame.
>
> I disagree. The last Libby I looked at was an '06. Underneath, the
> drivetrain looked to be very capable to me, and for mall-running, the
> V-6 is fine. For city-dwellers, the ride is nice and there's plenty of
> room inside for children. The model I looked at (2x4) was only around
> $18k, which is very reasonable. My TJL stickered for $26k.



I have a 02 which I use as my family ride. got not probs with it. It
does what I expect it to do. It's not a YJ or a TJ its just what I
bought a KJ..
My 02 cost me 25 its a limited fully loaded. Is paid off now more
money to throw at the YJ!!!

People gotta get off the senseless B**tching comparing a KJ to a YJ,
TJ or a Cherokee. It is what it is, don't buy one if you don't like
it. Move on, Go forward. Cherish your real Jeeps keep them goiing
thats what you need to do as "Real Jeepers"

I consider my YJ a classic and will do whatever I can to keep her
going. That said my KY as I stated above is just what I expected a KJ

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

On Feb 10, 12:30 pm, Outatime <whokn...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> souza.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> > Liberty's are lame.
>
> I disagree. The last Libby I looked at was an '06. Underneath, the
> drivetrain looked to be very capable to me, and for mall-running, the
> V-6 is fine. For city-dwellers, the ride is nice and there's plenty of
> room inside for children. The model I looked at (2x4) was only around
> $18k, which is very reasonable. My TJL stickered for $26k.



I have a 02 which I use as my family ride. got not probs with it. It
does what I expect it to do. It's not a YJ or a TJ its just what I
bought a KJ..
My 02 cost me 25 its a limited fully loaded. Is paid off now more
money to throw at the YJ!!!

People gotta get off the senseless B**tching comparing a KJ to a YJ,
TJ or a Cherokee. It is what it is, don't buy one if you don't like
it. Move on, Go forward. Cherish your real Jeeps keep them goiing
thats what you need to do as "Real Jeepers"

I consider my YJ a classic and will do whatever I can to keep her
going. That said my KY as I stated above is just what I expected a KJ

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

On Feb 11, 5:19 pm, "ufatbastehd" <ufatbas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 12:30 pm, Outatime <whokn...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> > souza.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> > > Liberty's are lame.
>
> > I disagree. The last Libby I looked at was an '06. Underneath, the
> > drivetrain looked to be very capable to me, and for mall-running, the
> > V-6 is fine. For city-dwellers, the ride is nice and there's plenty of
> > room inside for children. The model I looked at (2x4) was only around
> > $18k, which is very reasonable. My TJL stickered for $26k.
>
> I have a 02 which I use as my family ride. got not probs with it. It
> does what I expect it to do. It's not a YJ or a TJ its just what I
> bought a KJ..
> My 02 cost me 25 its a limited fully loaded. Is paid off now more
> money to throw at the YJ!!!
>
> People gotta get off the senseless B**tching comparing a KJ to a YJ,
> TJ or a Cherokee. It is what it is, don't buy one if you don't like
I use my wife's 02 KJ for a jeep. I hauled a deer out of the woods in
it this last fall. I have used it to unstick the 99 TJ. It hauls cow
feed, deer corn, etc. We drove it from Texas to the midwest and made
a loop around Lake Michigan. Would not try that in our TJ. I drive
it through the pastures and woods and when I get home I run the hoze
over it and drive the old ladies to church in it. And don't let me
forget to mention that I have winched the dead TJ (search this group
for 'daughter with purple hair) and hauled it a hundred miles with the
KJ.

The best thing about the KJ is all thoses 2wd ones that are all over
the place. Spare parts for ever!

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

On Feb 11, 5:19 pm, "ufatbastehd" <ufatbas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 12:30 pm, Outatime <whokn...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> > souza.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> > > Liberty's are lame.
>
> > I disagree. The last Libby I looked at was an '06. Underneath, the
> > drivetrain looked to be very capable to me, and for mall-running, the
> > V-6 is fine. For city-dwellers, the ride is nice and there's plenty of
> > room inside for children. The model I looked at (2x4) was only around
> > $18k, which is very reasonable. My TJL stickered for $26k.
>
> I have a 02 which I use as my family ride. got not probs with it. It
> does what I expect it to do. It's not a YJ or a TJ its just what I
> bought a KJ..
> My 02 cost me 25 its a limited fully loaded. Is paid off now more
> money to throw at the YJ!!!
>
> People gotta get off the senseless B**tching comparing a KJ to a YJ,
> TJ or a Cherokee. It is what it is, don't buy one if you don't like
I use my wife's 02 KJ for a jeep. I hauled a deer out of the woods in
it this last fall. I have used it to unstick the 99 TJ. It hauls cow
feed, deer corn, etc. We drove it from Texas to the midwest and made
a loop around Lake Michigan. Would not try that in our TJ. I drive
it through the pastures and woods and when I get home I run the hoze
over it and drive the old ladies to church in it. And don't let me
forget to mention that I have winched the dead TJ (search this group
for 'daughter with purple hair) and hauled it a hundred miles with the
KJ.

The best thing about the KJ is all thoses 2wd ones that are all over
the place. Spare parts for ever!

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

On Feb 11, 5:19 pm, "ufatbastehd" <ufatbas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 12:30 pm, Outatime <whokn...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> > souza.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> > > Liberty's are lame.
>
> > I disagree. The last Libby I looked at was an '06. Underneath, the
> > drivetrain looked to be very capable to me, and for mall-running, the
> > V-6 is fine. For city-dwellers, the ride is nice and there's plenty of
> > room inside for children. The model I looked at (2x4) was only around
> > $18k, which is very reasonable. My TJL stickered for $26k.
>
> I have a 02 which I use as my family ride. got not probs with it. It
> does what I expect it to do. It's not a YJ or a TJ its just what I
> bought a KJ..
> My 02 cost me 25 its a limited fully loaded. Is paid off now more
> money to throw at the YJ!!!
>
> People gotta get off the senseless B**tching comparing a KJ to a YJ,
> TJ or a Cherokee. It is what it is, don't buy one if you don't like
I use my wife's 02 KJ for a jeep. I hauled a deer out of the woods in
it this last fall. I have used it to unstick the 99 TJ. It hauls cow
feed, deer corn, etc. We drove it from Texas to the midwest and made
a loop around Lake Michigan. Would not try that in our TJ. I drive
it through the pastures and woods and when I get home I run the hoze
over it and drive the old ladies to church in it. And don't let me
forget to mention that I have winched the dead TJ (search this group
for 'daughter with purple hair) and hauled it a hundred miles with the
KJ.

The best thing about the KJ is all thoses 2wd ones that are all over
the place. Spare parts for ever!

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

On Feb 11, 5:19 pm, "ufatbastehd" <ufatbas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 12:30 pm, Outatime <whokn...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> > souza.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> > > Liberty's are lame.
>
> > I disagree. The last Libby I looked at was an '06. Underneath, the
> > drivetrain looked to be very capable to me, and for mall-running, the
> > V-6 is fine. For city-dwellers, the ride is nice and there's plenty of
> > room inside for children. The model I looked at (2x4) was only around
> > $18k, which is very reasonable. My TJL stickered for $26k.
>
> I have a 02 which I use as my family ride. got not probs with it. It
> does what I expect it to do. It's not a YJ or a TJ its just what I
> bought a KJ..
> My 02 cost me 25 its a limited fully loaded. Is paid off now more
> money to throw at the YJ!!!
>
> People gotta get off the senseless B**tching comparing a KJ to a YJ,
> TJ or a Cherokee. It is what it is, don't buy one if you don't like
I use my wife's 02 KJ for a jeep. I hauled a deer out of the woods in
it this last fall. I have used it to unstick the 99 TJ. It hauls cow
feed, deer corn, etc. We drove it from Texas to the midwest and made
a loop around Lake Michigan. Would not try that in our TJ. I drive
it through the pastures and woods and when I get home I run the hoze
over it and drive the old ladies to church in it. And don't let me
forget to mention that I have winched the dead TJ (search this group
for 'daughter with purple hair) and hauled it a hundred miles with the
KJ.

The best thing about the KJ is all thoses 2wd ones that are all over
the place. Spare parts for ever!

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

You could get a diesel in the US in 05 and 06 models. My Liberty Limited CRD
new was $23k plus T&T. Select trak, Sirius radio and mags. If your a diesel
nerd like me that's reason enough to get one. My fuel mileage is almost
twice what it was on my 99 XJ and is as much fun to drive.

<souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170994295.401337.26280@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

You could get a diesel in the US in 05 and 06 models. My Liberty Limited CRD
new was $23k plus T&T. Select trak, Sirius radio and mags. If your a diesel
nerd like me that's reason enough to get one. My fuel mileage is almost
twice what it was on my 99 XJ and is as much fun to drive.

<souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170994295.401337.26280@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

You could get a diesel in the US in 05 and 06 models. My Liberty Limited CRD
new was $23k plus T&T. Select trak, Sirius radio and mags. If your a diesel
nerd like me that's reason enough to get one. My fuel mileage is almost
twice what it was on my 99 XJ and is as much fun to drive.

<souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170994295.401337.26280@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

You could get a diesel in the US in 05 and 06 models. My Liberty Limited CRD
new was $23k plus T&T. Select trak, Sirius radio and mags. If your a diesel
nerd like me that's reason enough to get one. My fuel mileage is almost
twice what it was on my 99 XJ and is as much fun to drive.

<souza.jason@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170994295.401337.26280@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.
>

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

souza.jason@gmail.com wrote in news:1170994295.401337.26280
@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.

Whoah, man! I can't follow all that technical jargon! Don't expect me to
read a whole book to get your in depth analysis!

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Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

souza.jason@gmail.com wrote in news:1170994295.401337.26280
@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.

Whoah, man! I can't follow all that technical jargon! Don't expect me to
read a whole book to get your in depth analysis!

--
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http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/faqs.asp

Re: Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
 

souza.jason@gmail.com wrote in news:1170994295.401337.26280
@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Having driven both, I can tell you that technically speaking, well,
> Liberty's are lame.

Whoah, man! I can't follow all that technical jargon! Don't expect me to
read a whole book to get your in depth analysis!

--
Ask Me Why I support Stem Cell Research
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/faqs.asp