Dave Milne

ok, perhaps he said "feet" :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 08 May 2004 14:43:15 GMT, "Dave Milne"
> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
>
> >our army jeep car sank in the mud, at 13,000 miles above sea-level !"
>
> I'll bet you really had a great view of the moon from there.

Dave Milne

ok, perhaps he said "feet" :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 08 May 2004 14:43:15 GMT, "Dave Milne"
> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
>
> >our army jeep car sank in the mud, at 13,000 miles above sea-level !"
>
> I'll bet you really had a great view of the moon from there.

Dave Milne

ok, perhaps he said "feet" :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 08 May 2004 14:43:15 GMT, "Dave Milne"
> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
>
> >our army jeep car sank in the mud, at 13,000 miles above sea-level !"
>
> I'll bet you really had a great view of the moon from there.

Muuurgh

I'm a new Jeeper. I just want some fun, backwoods... not too
difficult--I'll-be-alone-with-my-wife-on-a-camping-trip type trail. I'd
like to hit "Holy Cross" out by Leadville. I think I've heard of Chinaman's
Gulch, but I don't know where that's at. My brother-in-law lives in
Breckenridge, so I suppose I'd like to remain in the summit area for this
trip.

Thanks,
Muuurgh


"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405071156.570de2c2@posting.google.c om...
> Muuurgh:
> What they said. I live in Denver, so I usually am more biased towards
> trails I can get to and home from in a single day if possible.
>
> You didn't mention what kind of trails you like (easy, hard, scenic,
> etc.) and what your main focus is when doing the trails. I like hard
> trails, so my favorites are things such as Holy Cross and Chinaman's
> Gulch, both about 2-3 hours West of Denver.
> There are also beautiful areas with trails ranging from easy to
> difficult out at Crested Butte, and of course, the Ouray area is
> supposed to be awesome (haven't been there yet).
>
> Go check out www.traildamage.com. I'm a member of that group here, and
> over the last couple years the trails page has gotten quite extensive.
> Directions and trail descriptions, along with photos and links to
> trail reports from actual runs, are all available there. (I'm on the
> members page, btw, if you want to see my Jeep, under the name "Bob".)
>
>
> ks:
> Our traildamage group is planning a trip later this summer to Ouray.
> I'd personally like to camp when we're there...do you have any good
> recommendations for campsites or any place I might look to find out
> what's available, and where? Do they allow reservations at any
> campsites? Are there free ones? Ones that require fees? How much?
> Figured I'd ask you all this since you implied you go there and go
> camping on more than a rare occasion. First hand intel, you know ;-)
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
> "ks" <co_big_cheese@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<BbNmc.1049$Tj.14616@news.uswest.net>...
> > Couldn't agree with Gary more.....
> >
> > San Juans are incredible. And being that I'm only two hours away I
might be
> > a little biased. THe SIlverton/Ouray are has a multitude of camping and
> > great wheeling of all levels. You won't get bored. Buy the book, Jerry
> > mentioned, you wont be sorry.
> >
> > "Gary" <jeepguy482003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ff8337fd.0405062221.5a115088@posting.google.c om...
> > > "Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
> > news:<2g0bmbF34n7rU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> > > > I'm plannin' a week long camping trip in CO for this summer. Where
is
> > there
> > > > a good, long, remote, trail that I might hit and camp on?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Muuurgh
> > >
> > > There are a lot of great Jeep trails in the San Juan Mountains in the
> > > southwest part of Colorado. The San Juans are drop-dead gorgeous, as
> > > far as scenery goes. Check out the area around Ouray, Telluride, and
> > > Lake City. Trails vary in difficulty from a leisurely drive through
> > > the park to a tooth-chattering, white-knuckle, pee-your-pants kind of
> > > adventure, so pick your route carefully, based on your vehicle, level
> > > of offroad experience, and comfort level. Also, ask for local advice
> > > and keep an eye on the weather when you get there - things can change
> > > rapidly in the mountains, turning an easy ride into an impassable road
> > > in a flash. Most of the trails can be driven in a day, and you will
> > > run into other Jeepers along the way, but there are a lot of
> > > campgrounds in the area. The beauty of the San Juans is unsurpassed
> > > if you are looking for classic alpine places to visit.
> > > Happy trails.
> > > Gary

Muuurgh

I'm a new Jeeper. I just want some fun, backwoods... not too
difficult--I'll-be-alone-with-my-wife-on-a-camping-trip type trail. I'd
like to hit "Holy Cross" out by Leadville. I think I've heard of Chinaman's
Gulch, but I don't know where that's at. My brother-in-law lives in
Breckenridge, so I suppose I'd like to remain in the summit area for this
trip.

Thanks,
Muuurgh


"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405071156.570de2c2@posting.google.c om...
> Muuurgh:
> What they said. I live in Denver, so I usually am more biased towards
> trails I can get to and home from in a single day if possible.
>
> You didn't mention what kind of trails you like (easy, hard, scenic,
> etc.) and what your main focus is when doing the trails. I like hard
> trails, so my favorites are things such as Holy Cross and Chinaman's
> Gulch, both about 2-3 hours West of Denver.
> There are also beautiful areas with trails ranging from easy to
> difficult out at Crested Butte, and of course, the Ouray area is
> supposed to be awesome (haven't been there yet).
>
> Go check out www.traildamage.com. I'm a member of that group here, and
> over the last couple years the trails page has gotten quite extensive.
> Directions and trail descriptions, along with photos and links to
> trail reports from actual runs, are all available there. (I'm on the
> members page, btw, if you want to see my Jeep, under the name "Bob".)
>
>
> ks:
> Our traildamage group is planning a trip later this summer to Ouray.
> I'd personally like to camp when we're there...do you have any good
> recommendations for campsites or any place I might look to find out
> what's available, and where? Do they allow reservations at any
> campsites? Are there free ones? Ones that require fees? How much?
> Figured I'd ask you all this since you implied you go there and go
> camping on more than a rare occasion. First hand intel, you know ;-)
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
> "ks" <co_big_cheese@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<BbNmc.1049$Tj.14616@news.uswest.net>...
> > Couldn't agree with Gary more.....
> >
> > San Juans are incredible. And being that I'm only two hours away I
might be
> > a little biased. THe SIlverton/Ouray are has a multitude of camping and
> > great wheeling of all levels. You won't get bored. Buy the book, Jerry
> > mentioned, you wont be sorry.
> >
> > "Gary" <jeepguy482003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ff8337fd.0405062221.5a115088@posting.google.c om...
> > > "Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
> > news:<2g0bmbF34n7rU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> > > > I'm plannin' a week long camping trip in CO for this summer. Where
is
> > there
> > > > a good, long, remote, trail that I might hit and camp on?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Muuurgh
> > >
> > > There are a lot of great Jeep trails in the San Juan Mountains in the
> > > southwest part of Colorado. The San Juans are drop-dead gorgeous, as
> > > far as scenery goes. Check out the area around Ouray, Telluride, and
> > > Lake City. Trails vary in difficulty from a leisurely drive through
> > > the park to a tooth-chattering, white-knuckle, pee-your-pants kind of
> > > adventure, so pick your route carefully, based on your vehicle, level
> > > of offroad experience, and comfort level. Also, ask for local advice
> > > and keep an eye on the weather when you get there - things can change
> > > rapidly in the mountains, turning an easy ride into an impassable road
> > > in a flash. Most of the trails can be driven in a day, and you will
> > > run into other Jeepers along the way, but there are a lot of
> > > campgrounds in the area. The beauty of the San Juans is unsurpassed
> > > if you are looking for classic alpine places to visit.
> > > Happy trails.
> > > Gary

Muuurgh

I'm a new Jeeper. I just want some fun, backwoods... not too
difficult--I'll-be-alone-with-my-wife-on-a-camping-trip type trail. I'd
like to hit "Holy Cross" out by Leadville. I think I've heard of Chinaman's
Gulch, but I don't know where that's at. My brother-in-law lives in
Breckenridge, so I suppose I'd like to remain in the summit area for this
trip.

Thanks,
Muuurgh


"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405071156.570de2c2@posting.google.c om...
> Muuurgh:
> What they said. I live in Denver, so I usually am more biased towards
> trails I can get to and home from in a single day if possible.
>
> You didn't mention what kind of trails you like (easy, hard, scenic,
> etc.) and what your main focus is when doing the trails. I like hard
> trails, so my favorites are things such as Holy Cross and Chinaman's
> Gulch, both about 2-3 hours West of Denver.
> There are also beautiful areas with trails ranging from easy to
> difficult out at Crested Butte, and of course, the Ouray area is
> supposed to be awesome (haven't been there yet).
>
> Go check out www.traildamage.com. I'm a member of that group here, and
> over the last couple years the trails page has gotten quite extensive.
> Directions and trail descriptions, along with photos and links to
> trail reports from actual runs, are all available there. (I'm on the
> members page, btw, if you want to see my Jeep, under the name "Bob".)
>
>
> ks:
> Our traildamage group is planning a trip later this summer to Ouray.
> I'd personally like to camp when we're there...do you have any good
> recommendations for campsites or any place I might look to find out
> what's available, and where? Do they allow reservations at any
> campsites? Are there free ones? Ones that require fees? How much?
> Figured I'd ask you all this since you implied you go there and go
> camping on more than a rare occasion. First hand intel, you know ;-)
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
> "ks" <co_big_cheese@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<BbNmc.1049$Tj.14616@news.uswest.net>...
> > Couldn't agree with Gary more.....
> >
> > San Juans are incredible. And being that I'm only two hours away I
might be
> > a little biased. THe SIlverton/Ouray are has a multitude of camping and
> > great wheeling of all levels. You won't get bored. Buy the book, Jerry
> > mentioned, you wont be sorry.
> >
> > "Gary" <jeepguy482003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ff8337fd.0405062221.5a115088@posting.google.c om...
> > > "Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
> > news:<2g0bmbF34n7rU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> > > > I'm plannin' a week long camping trip in CO for this summer. Where
is
> > there
> > > > a good, long, remote, trail that I might hit and camp on?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Muuurgh
> > >
> > > There are a lot of great Jeep trails in the San Juan Mountains in the
> > > southwest part of Colorado. The San Juans are drop-dead gorgeous, as
> > > far as scenery goes. Check out the area around Ouray, Telluride, and
> > > Lake City. Trails vary in difficulty from a leisurely drive through
> > > the park to a tooth-chattering, white-knuckle, pee-your-pants kind of
> > > adventure, so pick your route carefully, based on your vehicle, level
> > > of offroad experience, and comfort level. Also, ask for local advice
> > > and keep an eye on the weather when you get there - things can change
> > > rapidly in the mountains, turning an easy ride into an impassable road
> > > in a flash. Most of the trails can be driven in a day, and you will
> > > run into other Jeepers along the way, but there are a lot of
> > > campgrounds in the area. The beauty of the San Juans is unsurpassed
> > > if you are looking for classic alpine places to visit.
> > > Happy trails.
> > > Gary

Muuurgh

I'm a new Jeeper. I just want some fun, backwoods... not too
difficult--I'll-be-alone-with-my-wife-on-a-camping-trip type trail. I'd
like to hit "Holy Cross" out by Leadville. I think I've heard of Chinaman's
Gulch, but I don't know where that's at. My brother-in-law lives in
Breckenridge, so I suppose I'd like to remain in the summit area for this
trip.

Thanks,
Muuurgh


"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405071156.570de2c2@posting.google.c om...
> Muuurgh:
> What they said. I live in Denver, so I usually am more biased towards
> trails I can get to and home from in a single day if possible.
>
> You didn't mention what kind of trails you like (easy, hard, scenic,
> etc.) and what your main focus is when doing the trails. I like hard
> trails, so my favorites are things such as Holy Cross and Chinaman's
> Gulch, both about 2-3 hours West of Denver.
> There are also beautiful areas with trails ranging from easy to
> difficult out at Crested Butte, and of course, the Ouray area is
> supposed to be awesome (haven't been there yet).
>
> Go check out www.traildamage.com. I'm a member of that group here, and
> over the last couple years the trails page has gotten quite extensive.
> Directions and trail descriptions, along with photos and links to
> trail reports from actual runs, are all available there. (I'm on the
> members page, btw, if you want to see my Jeep, under the name "Bob".)
>
>
> ks:
> Our traildamage group is planning a trip later this summer to Ouray.
> I'd personally like to camp when we're there...do you have any good
> recommendations for campsites or any place I might look to find out
> what's available, and where? Do they allow reservations at any
> campsites? Are there free ones? Ones that require fees? How much?
> Figured I'd ask you all this since you implied you go there and go
> camping on more than a rare occasion. First hand intel, you know ;-)
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
> "ks" <co_big_cheese@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<BbNmc.1049$Tj.14616@news.uswest.net>...
> > Couldn't agree with Gary more.....
> >
> > San Juans are incredible. And being that I'm only two hours away I
might be
> > a little biased. THe SIlverton/Ouray are has a multitude of camping and
> > great wheeling of all levels. You won't get bored. Buy the book, Jerry
> > mentioned, you wont be sorry.
> >
> > "Gary" <jeepguy482003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ff8337fd.0405062221.5a115088@posting.google.c om...
> > > "Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
> > news:<2g0bmbF34n7rU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> > > > I'm plannin' a week long camping trip in CO for this summer. Where
is
> > there
> > > > a good, long, remote, trail that I might hit and camp on?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Muuurgh
> > >
> > > There are a lot of great Jeep trails in the San Juan Mountains in the
> > > southwest part of Colorado. The San Juans are drop-dead gorgeous, as
> > > far as scenery goes. Check out the area around Ouray, Telluride, and
> > > Lake City. Trails vary in difficulty from a leisurely drive through
> > > the park to a tooth-chattering, white-knuckle, pee-your-pants kind of
> > > adventure, so pick your route carefully, based on your vehicle, level
> > > of offroad experience, and comfort level. Also, ask for local advice
> > > and keep an eye on the weather when you get there - things can change
> > > rapidly in the mountains, turning an easy ride into an impassable road
> > > in a flash. Most of the trails can be driven in a day, and you will
> > > run into other Jeepers along the way, but there are a lot of
> > > campgrounds in the area. The beauty of the San Juans is unsurpassed
> > > if you are looking for classic alpine places to visit.
> > > Happy trails.
> > > Gary

Shamus in CO

"Will Honea" <hwj25(remove this)@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> Jerry, keep an eye on the weather between now and when you come. If
> we don't get some timely moisture you may find camping pretty grim
> with all sorts of fire restrictions.

Info on CO wildfires and fire bans:
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CSFS/fireinfo.html

Shamus in CO

"Will Honea" <hwj25(remove this)@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-dyepWfWbmHz7@anon.none.net...
> Jerry, keep an eye on the weather between now and when you come. If
> we don't get some timely moisture you may find camping pretty grim
> with all sorts of fire restrictions.

Info on CO wildfires and fire bans:
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CSFS/fireinfo.html

Shamus in CO

"Will Honea" <hwj25(remove this)@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-dyepWfWbmHz7@anon.none.net...
> Jerry, keep an eye on the weather between now and when you come. If
> we don't get some timely moisture you may find camping pretty grim
> with all sorts of fire restrictions.

Info on CO wildfires and fire bans:
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CSFS/fireinfo.html