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Jeff Strickland 09-17-2003 06:45 PM

Re: Where to find Rotors?
 

"viriiman" <addresschanged@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Q7-cnXwo-siiJPWiU-KYuQ@comcast.com...
> All of the rotors I've found so far are composite rotors, which I was told
> will warp faster then cast iron. I was also under the impression that the
> cast iron would last me longer, and that the Jeep came from the factory

with
> composite rotors.
>

Boy am I confused! I would have thought all rotors for a Jeep would be iron.
My apologies for second guessing you ...



> As for finding them, it seems someone changed a lot of things on the 2001
> XJ. When I had an exhaust problem, Midas didn't have ANY of the pieces of

my
> exhaust and told me I had to take it to the dealership. The one website I
> checked gives me two links, one for composite and one for cast iron.The

cast
> iron link shows that they don't currently carry it.
>
> Guess it looks like I'll be getting composite this time around.
>
>
> Hank
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vmf8nigi0guqfd@corp.supernews.com...
> > Maybe for Ferarris and Porsches, but for Jeeps? I don't think so, and if
> > they do, then isn't this better than what is on the vehicle now? I think

> the
> > original poster is confusing the counter people by specifying he wants

> cast
> > iron rotors. I think that all he will find is cast iron rotors for that
> > vehicle. I could be wrong, and he is having trouble finding any rotors

at
> > all, but it seems to me that rotors should be plentiful.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:02N9b.12529$jL7.109384815@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > > I understand they do composite discs/rotors also ?
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> > >
> > > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vmf6l8qho6af88@corp.supernews.com...
> > > :
> > > : "viriiman" <addresschanged@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > : news:h8SdnUiTUupC5_qiXTWJig@comcast.com...
> > > : > Ok, this is my last rotor post, 'cause I don't know about you, but

> I'm
> > > : tired
> > > : > of posting's 'em.
> > > : >
> > > : > I need to know where I can find (in Northern NJ or internet based)

> > cast
> > > : iron
> > > : > rotors for a 2001 XJ. I've checked auto zone's site, and they

don't
> > > carry
> > > : > them. Strauss's site doesn't list if they carry full cast iron

> rotors,
> > > and
> > > : > the girl behind the counter had no idea what-so-ever.
> > > : >
> > > : > So, if anyone knows where I can get them, PLEASE let me know.
> > > : >
> > > :
> > > : What else would they be besides cast iron?
> > > :
> > > : I would be searching for brake rotors, and let the counter guy drop

a
> > load
> > > : of steel on you.
> > > :
> > > :
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




John Sevey 09-18-2003 11:36 AM

Re: Where to find Rotors?
 
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> There was a recall for some years of them, not sure which. It was for
> rust.


According to this:

http://www.safetyalerts.com/recall/a/00/v136.htm

it was for '96-'99 Cherokees, however the vehicle had to have been sold in a
"rust" belt state where road salt is commonly used (not sure about Canada).
:)

There may have also been recalls dealing strictly with warping, but I don't
know for sure.

My '98 Cherokee had the rotors replaced sometime after the original warranty
had expired (it had around 50000 miles on it, then) for free under this recall.
The replacement rotors didn't last very long until they warped. Funny, it now
has cheap "house brand" rotors on it that have lasted over 10000 miles with
out warping...

-John

John Sevey 09-18-2003 11:36 AM

Re: Where to find Rotors?
 
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> There was a recall for some years of them, not sure which. It was for
> rust.


According to this:

http://www.safetyalerts.com/recall/a/00/v136.htm

it was for '96-'99 Cherokees, however the vehicle had to have been sold in a
"rust" belt state where road salt is commonly used (not sure about Canada).
:)

There may have also been recalls dealing strictly with warping, but I don't
know for sure.

My '98 Cherokee had the rotors replaced sometime after the original warranty
had expired (it had around 50000 miles on it, then) for free under this recall.
The replacement rotors didn't last very long until they warped. Funny, it now
has cheap "house brand" rotors on it that have lasted over 10000 miles with
out warping...

-John

Mike Romain 09-18-2003 12:45 PM

Re: Where to find Rotors?
 
The warping is normally due to the wheel nuts not being hand torqued on
like they are 'supposed' to be.

Put air tools or an impact gun on the wheels, and bingo, warped rotors!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

John Sevey wrote:
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > There was a recall for some years of them, not sure which. It was for
> > rust.

>
> According to this:
>
> http://www.safetyalerts.com/recall/a/00/v136.htm
>
> it was for '96-'99 Cherokees, however the vehicle had to have been sold in a
> "rust" belt state where road salt is commonly used (not sure about Canada).
> :)
>
> There may have also been recalls dealing strictly with warping, but I don't
> know for sure.
>
> My '98 Cherokee had the rotors replaced sometime after the original warranty
> had expired (it had around 50000 miles on it, then) for free under this recall.
> The replacement rotors didn't last very long until they warped. Funny, it now
> has cheap "house brand" rotors on it that have lasted over 10000 miles with
> out warping...
>
> -John


Mike Romain 09-18-2003 12:45 PM

Re: Where to find Rotors?
 
The warping is normally due to the wheel nuts not being hand torqued on
like they are 'supposed' to be.

Put air tools or an impact gun on the wheels, and bingo, warped rotors!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

John Sevey wrote:
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > There was a recall for some years of them, not sure which. It was for
> > rust.

>
> According to this:
>
> http://www.safetyalerts.com/recall/a/00/v136.htm
>
> it was for '96-'99 Cherokees, however the vehicle had to have been sold in a
> "rust" belt state where road salt is commonly used (not sure about Canada).
> :)
>
> There may have also been recalls dealing strictly with warping, but I don't
> know for sure.
>
> My '98 Cherokee had the rotors replaced sometime after the original warranty
> had expired (it had around 50000 miles on it, then) for free under this recall.
> The replacement rotors didn't last very long until they warped. Funny, it now
> has cheap "house brand" rotors on it that have lasted over 10000 miles with
> out warping...
>
> -John


Jerry Bransford 09-18-2003 01:14 PM

Re: Where to find Rotors?
 
Mike, I'll agree that not hand-torqueing the lug nuts can contribute to
rotor warping but the real root cause of rotor warping is that they switched
from heavy all-cast rotors to light-weight composite material rotors that
can't deal with heat as well as heavier all-cast rotors can. Simply
switching to cast rotors will greatly decrease, if not totally eliminate,
rotor warping.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F69E12A.69347434@sympatico.ca...
> The warping is normally due to the wheel nuts not being hand torqued on
> like they are 'supposed' to be.
>
> Put air tools or an impact gun on the wheels, and bingo, warped rotors!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> John Sevey wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > There was a recall for some years of them, not sure which. It was for
> > > rust.

> >
> > According to this:
> >
> > http://www.safetyalerts.com/recall/a/00/v136.htm
> >
> > it was for '96-'99 Cherokees, however the vehicle had to have been sold

in a
> > "rust" belt state where road salt is commonly used (not sure about

Canada).
> > :)
> >
> > There may have also been recalls dealing strictly with warping, but I

don't
> > know for sure.
> >
> > My '98 Cherokee had the rotors replaced sometime after the original

warranty
> > had expired (it had around 50000 miles on it, then) for free under this

recall.
> > The replacement rotors didn't last very long until they warped. Funny,

it now
> > has cheap "house brand" rotors on it that have lasted over 10000 miles

with
> > out warping...
> >
> > -John




Jerry Bransford 09-18-2003 01:14 PM

Re: Where to find Rotors?
 
Mike, I'll agree that not hand-torqueing the lug nuts can contribute to
rotor warping but the real root cause of rotor warping is that they switched
from heavy all-cast rotors to light-weight composite material rotors that
can't deal with heat as well as heavier all-cast rotors can. Simply
switching to cast rotors will greatly decrease, if not totally eliminate,
rotor warping.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F69E12A.69347434@sympatico.ca...
> The warping is normally due to the wheel nuts not being hand torqued on
> like they are 'supposed' to be.
>
> Put air tools or an impact gun on the wheels, and bingo, warped rotors!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> John Sevey wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > There was a recall for some years of them, not sure which. It was for
> > > rust.

> >
> > According to this:
> >
> > http://www.safetyalerts.com/recall/a/00/v136.htm
> >
> > it was for '96-'99 Cherokees, however the vehicle had to have been sold

in a
> > "rust" belt state where road salt is commonly used (not sure about

Canada).
> > :)
> >
> > There may have also been recalls dealing strictly with warping, but I

don't
> > know for sure.
> >
> > My '98 Cherokee had the rotors replaced sometime after the original

warranty
> > had expired (it had around 50000 miles on it, then) for free under this

recall.
> > The replacement rotors didn't last very long until they warped. Funny,

it now
> > has cheap "house brand" rotors on it that have lasted over 10000 miles

with
> > out warping...
> >
> > -John




Mike Romain 09-18-2003 02:03 PM

Re: Where to find Rotors?
 
Sure, but how fast do they forget???

When I worked in garages, we were not even allowed to use the air impact
gun on aluminum or mag wheels, because the gun would potentially warp
them...

Now we have aluminum rims and composite rotors and tire jockeys with
impact guns...

The rotor doesn't stand a chance...

Mike

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Mike, I'll agree that not hand-torqueing the lug nuts can contribute to
> rotor warping but the real root cause of rotor warping is that they switched
> from heavy all-cast rotors to light-weight composite material rotors that
> can't deal with heat as well as heavier all-cast rotors can. Simply
> switching to cast rotors will greatly decrease, if not totally eliminate,
> rotor warping.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F69E12A.69347434@sympatico.ca...
> > The warping is normally due to the wheel nuts not being hand torqued on
> > like they are 'supposed' to be.
> >
> > Put air tools or an impact gun on the wheels, and bingo, warped rotors!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > John Sevey wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > > There was a recall for some years of them, not sure which. It was for
> > > > rust.
> > >
> > > According to this:
> > >
> > > http://www.safetyalerts.com/recall/a/00/v136.htm
> > >
> > > it was for '96-'99 Cherokees, however the vehicle had to have been sold

> in a
> > > "rust" belt state where road salt is commonly used (not sure about

> Canada).
> > > :)
> > >
> > > There may have also been recalls dealing strictly with warping, but I

> don't
> > > know for sure.
> > >
> > > My '98 Cherokee had the rotors replaced sometime after the original

> warranty
> > > had expired (it had around 50000 miles on it, then) for free under this

> recall.
> > > The replacement rotors didn't last very long until they warped. Funny,

> it now
> > > has cheap "house brand" rotors on it that have lasted over 10000 miles

> with
> > > out warping...
> > >
> > > -John


Mike Romain 09-18-2003 02:03 PM

Re: Where to find Rotors?
 
Sure, but how fast do they forget???

When I worked in garages, we were not even allowed to use the air impact
gun on aluminum or mag wheels, because the gun would potentially warp
them...

Now we have aluminum rims and composite rotors and tire jockeys with
impact guns...

The rotor doesn't stand a chance...

Mike

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Mike, I'll agree that not hand-torqueing the lug nuts can contribute to
> rotor warping but the real root cause of rotor warping is that they switched
> from heavy all-cast rotors to light-weight composite material rotors that
> can't deal with heat as well as heavier all-cast rotors can. Simply
> switching to cast rotors will greatly decrease, if not totally eliminate,
> rotor warping.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F69E12A.69347434@sympatico.ca...
> > The warping is normally due to the wheel nuts not being hand torqued on
> > like they are 'supposed' to be.
> >
> > Put air tools or an impact gun on the wheels, and bingo, warped rotors!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > John Sevey wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > > There was a recall for some years of them, not sure which. It was for
> > > > rust.
> > >
> > > According to this:
> > >
> > > http://www.safetyalerts.com/recall/a/00/v136.htm
> > >
> > > it was for '96-'99 Cherokees, however the vehicle had to have been sold

> in a
> > > "rust" belt state where road salt is commonly used (not sure about

> Canada).
> > > :)
> > >
> > > There may have also been recalls dealing strictly with warping, but I

> don't
> > > know for sure.
> > >
> > > My '98 Cherokee had the rotors replaced sometime after the original

> warranty
> > > had expired (it had around 50000 miles on it, then) for free under this

> recall.
> > > The replacement rotors didn't last very long until they warped. Funny,

> it now
> > > has cheap "house brand" rotors on it that have lasted over 10000 miles

> with
> > > out warping...
> > >
> > > -John



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