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Re: Where to find Rotors?
YES! That is my EXACT reasoning!
Thank you very very much, as my post that I wrote that in seems to have become roadkill on the information-superhighway Hank "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:yfU9b.12824$f%2.110345434@news-text.cableinet.net... > I thought Jeep supplied a composite rotor that was crap which is probably > why the OP wants the cast ones. Maybe I am getting mis-remembering. You can > get them though. > > http://www.crownautomotive.net/catalog/brake/XJ.html > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara > > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:vmf8nigi0guqfd@corp.supernews.com... > : Maybe for Ferarris and Porsches, but for Jeeps? I don't think so, and if > : they do, then isn't this better than what is on the vehicle now? I think > the > : original poster is confusing the counter people by specifying he wants > cast > : iron rotors. I think that all he will find is cast iron rotors for that > : vehicle. I could be wrong, and he is having trouble finding any rotors at > : all, but it seems to me that rotors should be plentiful. > : > : > : > : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message > : news:02N9b.12529$jL7.109384815@news-text.cableinet.net... > : > I understand they do composite discs/rotors also ? > : > > : > Dave Milne, Scotland > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara > : > > : > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > : > news:vmf6l8qho6af88@corp.supernews.com... > : > : > : > : "viriiman" <addresschanged@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message > : > : news:h8SdnUiTUupC5_qiXTWJig@comcast.com... > : > : > Ok, this is my last rotor post, 'cause I don't know about you, but > I'm > : > : tired > : > : > of posting's 'em. > : > : > > : > : > I need to know where I can find (in Northern NJ or internet based) > : cast > : > : iron > : > : > rotors for a 2001 XJ. I've checked auto zone's site, and they don't > : > carry > : > : > them. Strauss's site doesn't list if they carry full cast iron > rotors, > : > and > : > : > the girl behind the counter had no idea what-so-ever. > : > : > > : > : > So, if anyone knows where I can get them, PLEASE let me know. > : > : > > : > : > : > : What else would they be besides cast iron? > : > : > : > : I would be searching for brake rotors, and let the counter guy drop a > : load > : > : of steel on you. > : > : > : > : > : > > : > > : > : > > |
Re: Where to find Rotors?
It could be, this would be the second time I'd be having the rotors turned
(they've been cut once already since leaving the factory), however I do have about 71,000 miles on the Jeep. Not sure if they should've been cut yet. I've also replaced the front brakes, and am getting ready to replace all of the brakes very very shortly. Also, would I have to pay for this warrantee work (I don't think I would)? I mean, I don't want to bring it out to the dealership, have them look at it, and tell me that it's just normal and the discs do warp and I'm not covered, or that I had them cut once already and they don't qualify or just that I'm SOL. Now I have no idea if I should have them replaced or not. :-\ Hank " Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:oHN9b.788$Ep5.572@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. .. > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:3F6785AD.EBCA13BD@cox.net... > > Good find. Front Brakes - Pedal Pulsation: > > http://alldata.com/TSB/04/010433D2.html > > Here's what it says: > > <quote> > > Front Brakes - Pedal Pulsation > > NUMBER: 05-004-01 > > GROUP: Brake > > DATE: Jun. 08, 2001 > > SUBJECT: > Disc Brake Rotor Pulsation > > OVERVIEW: > This bulletin involves the replacement of the front disc brake pads and the > machining or replacement of the front brake rotors. > > MODELS: > > 2000 - 2001 (XJ) Cherokee > SYMPTOM/CONDITION: > > The vehicle may exhibit minor brake pedal pulsation at highway speeds when > braking. This may be caused by rough surfaces on the disc rotor. This > condition will usually occur in warm climate, high humidity areas. This > condition may also be present in areas where a higher amount of salt is > present (snow belt states or coastal states). Chemical material from the > brake pads can transfer to the rotors causing enough surface friction > variation or uneven rotor wear to induce this rough feel and minor brake > pulsation. > > DIAGNOSIS: > > Road test the vehicle at highway speeds. Lightly apply the service brakes. > If the vibration is felt in the brake pedal, steering wheel or body, inspect > the rotors. Often, the rotors will appear discolored or darker in areas > where the brake pad material has transferred to the rotor. If the condition > is present, perform the Repair Procedure. > > > > REPAIR PROCEDURE: > > 1. Measure the brake rotors to verify that the rotors can be turned > and still remain within the specifications for minimum thickness. The > specification for minimum thickness is either stamped or cast into the rotor > hub. If the rotors can be machined, it is required that an approved > on-the-car brake lathe be used. Do not use off-the-car brake lathe machining > equipment. Replace any rotor(s) not suitable for machining. > > 2. Install the new brake pads, p/n 04778058AC, using procedures > outlined in the appropriate service manual or on the MDS 2. Remember to > tighten the wheel tire lug nuts to no more than 115 - 156 Nm (85 - 115 ft. > lbs.). > > > > POLICY: > > Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty. > > <endquote> > > Sounds like you need to have the pulsation problem > > before they'll do this. Also sounds like there's not an > > improved rotor part involved. > > __ > > steve > > . > > > > |
Re: Where to find Rotors?
It could be, this would be the second time I'd be having the rotors turned
(they've been cut once already since leaving the factory), however I do have about 71,000 miles on the Jeep. Not sure if they should've been cut yet. I've also replaced the front brakes, and am getting ready to replace all of the brakes very very shortly. Also, would I have to pay for this warrantee work (I don't think I would)? I mean, I don't want to bring it out to the dealership, have them look at it, and tell me that it's just normal and the discs do warp and I'm not covered, or that I had them cut once already and they don't qualify or just that I'm SOL. Now I have no idea if I should have them replaced or not. :-\ Hank " Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:oHN9b.788$Ep5.572@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. .. > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:3F6785AD.EBCA13BD@cox.net... > > Good find. Front Brakes - Pedal Pulsation: > > http://alldata.com/TSB/04/010433D2.html > > Here's what it says: > > <quote> > > Front Brakes - Pedal Pulsation > > NUMBER: 05-004-01 > > GROUP: Brake > > DATE: Jun. 08, 2001 > > SUBJECT: > Disc Brake Rotor Pulsation > > OVERVIEW: > This bulletin involves the replacement of the front disc brake pads and the > machining or replacement of the front brake rotors. > > MODELS: > > 2000 - 2001 (XJ) Cherokee > SYMPTOM/CONDITION: > > The vehicle may exhibit minor brake pedal pulsation at highway speeds when > braking. This may be caused by rough surfaces on the disc rotor. This > condition will usually occur in warm climate, high humidity areas. This > condition may also be present in areas where a higher amount of salt is > present (snow belt states or coastal states). Chemical material from the > brake pads can transfer to the rotors causing enough surface friction > variation or uneven rotor wear to induce this rough feel and minor brake > pulsation. > > DIAGNOSIS: > > Road test the vehicle at highway speeds. Lightly apply the service brakes. > If the vibration is felt in the brake pedal, steering wheel or body, inspect > the rotors. Often, the rotors will appear discolored or darker in areas > where the brake pad material has transferred to the rotor. If the condition > is present, perform the Repair Procedure. > > > > REPAIR PROCEDURE: > > 1. Measure the brake rotors to verify that the rotors can be turned > and still remain within the specifications for minimum thickness. The > specification for minimum thickness is either stamped or cast into the rotor > hub. If the rotors can be machined, it is required that an approved > on-the-car brake lathe be used. Do not use off-the-car brake lathe machining > equipment. Replace any rotor(s) not suitable for machining. > > 2. Install the new brake pads, p/n 04778058AC, using procedures > outlined in the appropriate service manual or on the MDS 2. Remember to > tighten the wheel tire lug nuts to no more than 115 - 156 Nm (85 - 115 ft. > lbs.). > > > > POLICY: > > Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty. > > <endquote> > > Sounds like you need to have the pulsation problem > > before they'll do this. Also sounds like there's not an > > improved rotor part involved. > > __ > > steve > > . > > > > |
Re: Where to find Rotors?
There was a recall for some years of them, not sure which. It was for
rust. Mike twaldron wrote: > > As far as I know, there is no recall on 2001 XJ brakes. Do you have > info. on a recall? I've seen a TSB. > > Mike Romain wrote: > > > Are your rotors not part of the recall? > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > viriiman wrote: > > > >>Ok, this is my last rotor post, 'cause I don't know about you, but I'm tired > >>of posting's 'em. > >> > >>I need to know where I can find (in Northern NJ or internet based) cast iron > >>rotors for a 2001 XJ. I've checked auto zone's site, and they don't carry > >>them. Strauss's site doesn't list if they carry full cast iron rotors, and > >>the girl behind the counter had no idea what-so-ever. > >> > >>So, if anyone knows where I can get them, PLEASE let me know. > >> > >>TIA > >> > >>Hank > >> > >>P.S. Hopefully Bill might have something, he seems to be the Lord of the > >>Links. > > -- > __________________________________________________ _________ > tw > 03 TJ Rubicon > 01 XJ Sport > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." > -- Dave Barry > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) > __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: Where to find Rotors?
There was a recall for some years of them, not sure which. It was for
rust. Mike twaldron wrote: > > As far as I know, there is no recall on 2001 XJ brakes. Do you have > info. on a recall? I've seen a TSB. > > Mike Romain wrote: > > > Are your rotors not part of the recall? > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > viriiman wrote: > > > >>Ok, this is my last rotor post, 'cause I don't know about you, but I'm tired > >>of posting's 'em. > >> > >>I need to know where I can find (in Northern NJ or internet based) cast iron > >>rotors for a 2001 XJ. I've checked auto zone's site, and they don't carry > >>them. Strauss's site doesn't list if they carry full cast iron rotors, and > >>the girl behind the counter had no idea what-so-ever. > >> > >>So, if anyone knows where I can get them, PLEASE let me know. > >> > >>TIA > >> > >>Hank > >> > >>P.S. Hopefully Bill might have something, he seems to be the Lord of the > >>Links. > > -- > __________________________________________________ _________ > tw > 03 TJ Rubicon > 01 XJ Sport > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." > -- Dave Barry > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) > __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: Where to find Rotors?
Do the '98 Cherokee ones fit ?
http://www.jcwhitney.com/item.jhtml?ITEMID=128731 Dave Milne, Scotland '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara "viriiman" <addresschanged@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Q7-cnX8o-sjdJPWiU-KYuQ@comcast.com... : And after following all of those links, not one site carries the cast iron : rotors for the 01 XJ. : : However, it seems that the "replaces part #" (5016434AA) for the front disc : brakes for a TJ : (http://www.crownautomotive.net/catal...nt_disc_brakes) is : also the same part number for the front disc brakes for an XJ : (http://www.crownautomotive.net/catal...nt_disc_brakes). : : Should I then be able to order the front disc brakes for the TJ and have : them fit? : : Why did they have to change so much on mine that this is becoming a : nightmare? : : : Hank : : : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message : news:yfU9b.12824$f%2.110345434@news-text.cableinet.net... : > I thought Jeep supplied a composite rotor that was crap which is probably : > why the OP wants the cast ones. Maybe I am getting mis-remembering. You : can : > get them though. : > : > http://www.crownautomotive.net/catalog/brake/XJ.html : > : > : > Dave Milne, Scotland : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara : > : > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message : > news:vmf8nigi0guqfd@corp.supernews.com... : > : Maybe for Ferarris and Porsches, but for Jeeps? I don't think so, and if : > : they do, then isn't this better than what is on the vehicle now? I think : > the : > : original poster is confusing the counter people by specifying he wants : > cast : > : iron rotors. I think that all he will find is cast iron rotors for that : > : vehicle. I could be wrong, and he is having trouble finding any rotors : at : > : all, but it seems to me that rotors should be plentiful. : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message : > : news:02N9b.12529$jL7.109384815@news-text.cableinet.net... : > : > I understand they do composite discs/rotors also ? : > : > : > : > Dave Milne, Scotland : > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara : > : > : > : > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message : > : > news:vmf6l8qho6af88@corp.supernews.com... : > : > : : > : > : "viriiman" <addresschanged@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message : > : > : news:h8SdnUiTUupC5_qiXTWJig@comcast.com... : > : > : > Ok, this is my last rotor post, 'cause I don't know about you, but : > I'm : > : > : tired : > : > : > of posting's 'em. : > : > : > : > : > : > I need to know where I can find (in Northern NJ or internet based) : > : cast : > : > : iron : > : > : > rotors for a 2001 XJ. I've checked auto zone's site, and they : don't : > : > carry : > : > : > them. Strauss's site doesn't list if they carry full cast iron : > rotors, : > : > and : > : > : > the girl behind the counter had no idea what-so-ever. : > : > : > : > : > : > So, if anyone knows where I can get them, PLEASE let me know. : > : > : > : > : > : : > : > : What else would they be besides cast iron? : > : > : : > : > : I would be searching for brake rotors, and let the counter guy drop : a : > : load : > : > : of steel on you. : > : > : : > : > : : > : > : > : > : > : : > : : > : > : : |
Re: Where to find Rotors?
Do the '98 Cherokee ones fit ?
http://www.jcwhitney.com/item.jhtml?ITEMID=128731 Dave Milne, Scotland '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara "viriiman" <addresschanged@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Q7-cnX8o-sjdJPWiU-KYuQ@comcast.com... : And after following all of those links, not one site carries the cast iron : rotors for the 01 XJ. : : However, it seems that the "replaces part #" (5016434AA) for the front disc : brakes for a TJ : (http://www.crownautomotive.net/catal...nt_disc_brakes) is : also the same part number for the front disc brakes for an XJ : (http://www.crownautomotive.net/catal...nt_disc_brakes). : : Should I then be able to order the front disc brakes for the TJ and have : them fit? : : Why did they have to change so much on mine that this is becoming a : nightmare? : : : Hank : : : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message : news:yfU9b.12824$f%2.110345434@news-text.cableinet.net... : > I thought Jeep supplied a composite rotor that was crap which is probably : > why the OP wants the cast ones. Maybe I am getting mis-remembering. You : can : > get them though. : > : > http://www.crownautomotive.net/catalog/brake/XJ.html : > : > : > Dave Milne, Scotland : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara : > : > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message : > news:vmf8nigi0guqfd@corp.supernews.com... : > : Maybe for Ferarris and Porsches, but for Jeeps? I don't think so, and if : > : they do, then isn't this better than what is on the vehicle now? I think : > the : > : original poster is confusing the counter people by specifying he wants : > cast : > : iron rotors. I think that all he will find is cast iron rotors for that : > : vehicle. I could be wrong, and he is having trouble finding any rotors : at : > : all, but it seems to me that rotors should be plentiful. : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message : > : news:02N9b.12529$jL7.109384815@news-text.cableinet.net... : > : > I understand they do composite discs/rotors also ? : > : > : > : > Dave Milne, Scotland : > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara : > : > : > : > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message : > : > news:vmf6l8qho6af88@corp.supernews.com... : > : > : : > : > : "viriiman" <addresschanged@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message : > : > : news:h8SdnUiTUupC5_qiXTWJig@comcast.com... : > : > : > Ok, this is my last rotor post, 'cause I don't know about you, but : > I'm : > : > : tired : > : > : > of posting's 'em. : > : > : > : > : > : > I need to know where I can find (in Northern NJ or internet based) : > : cast : > : > : iron : > : > : > rotors for a 2001 XJ. I've checked auto zone's site, and they : don't : > : > carry : > : > : > them. Strauss's site doesn't list if they carry full cast iron : > rotors, : > : > and : > : > : > the girl behind the counter had no idea what-so-ever. : > : > : > : > : > : > So, if anyone knows where I can get them, PLEASE let me know. : > : > : > : > : > : : > : > : What else would they be besides cast iron? : > : > : : > : > : I would be searching for brake rotors, and let the counter guy drop : a : > : load : > : > : of steel on you. : > : > : : > : > : : > : > : > : > : > : : > : : > : > : : |
Re: Where to find Rotors?
I have used Raybestos rotors (cast iron, not composite) and pads, and they
are much better than the original product. They are easy to find in many common car parts stores such as Auto Zone etc. My car is a 2000 Grand Cherokee Limited. Hope this helps !! --James-- |
Re: Where to find Rotors?
I have used Raybestos rotors (cast iron, not composite) and pads, and they
are much better than the original product. They are easy to find in many common car parts stores such as Auto Zone etc. My car is a 2000 Grand Cherokee Limited. Hope this helps !! --James-- |
Re: Where to find Rotors?
"viriiman" <addresschanged@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Q7-cnXwo-siiJPWiU-KYuQ@comcast.com... > All of the rotors I've found so far are composite rotors, which I was told > will warp faster then cast iron. I was also under the impression that the > cast iron would last me longer, and that the Jeep came from the factory with > composite rotors. > Boy am I confused! I would have thought all rotors for a Jeep would be iron. My apologies for second guessing you ... > As for finding them, it seems someone changed a lot of things on the 2001 > XJ. When I had an exhaust problem, Midas didn't have ANY of the pieces of my > exhaust and told me I had to take it to the dealership. The one website I > checked gives me two links, one for composite and one for cast iron.The cast > iron link shows that they don't currently carry it. > > Guess it looks like I'll be getting composite this time around. > > > Hank > > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:vmf8nigi0guqfd@corp.supernews.com... > > Maybe for Ferarris and Porsches, but for Jeeps? I don't think so, and if > > they do, then isn't this better than what is on the vehicle now? I think > the > > original poster is confusing the counter people by specifying he wants > cast > > iron rotors. I think that all he will find is cast iron rotors for that > > vehicle. I could be wrong, and he is having trouble finding any rotors at > > all, but it seems to me that rotors should be plentiful. > > > > > > > > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message > > news:02N9b.12529$jL7.109384815@news-text.cableinet.net... > > > I understand they do composite discs/rotors also ? > > > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara > > > > > > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > news:vmf6l8qho6af88@corp.supernews.com... > > > : > > > : "viriiman" <addresschanged@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > : news:h8SdnUiTUupC5_qiXTWJig@comcast.com... > > > : > Ok, this is my last rotor post, 'cause I don't know about you, but > I'm > > > : tired > > > : > of posting's 'em. > > > : > > > > : > I need to know where I can find (in Northern NJ or internet based) > > cast > > > : iron > > > : > rotors for a 2001 XJ. I've checked auto zone's site, and they don't > > > carry > > > : > them. Strauss's site doesn't list if they carry full cast iron > rotors, > > > and > > > : > the girl behind the counter had no idea what-so-ever. > > > : > > > > : > So, if anyone knows where I can get them, PLEASE let me know. > > > : > > > > : > > > : What else would they be besides cast iron? > > > : > > > : I would be searching for brake rotors, and let the counter guy drop a > > load > > > : of steel on you. > > > : > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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