When it rains..it pours... (95 XJ wont start)
02-05-2007, 02:00 AM
#11
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Re: When it rains..it pours... (95 XJ wont start)
What fun would it be if you had all the information you need from a
chiltons? >BFG< Usually they are within a foot or so of the battery. Not
exactly sure on your XJ where they are located.
Carl
"noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:56:28 -0600, "DougW"
> <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>>noneofyourbusiness wrote:
>>> My 95 XJ is dead...
>>> No lights no buzzers no start.
>>>
>>> The battery reads 12.6 (or 12.8?) on a volt meter, and there is good
>>> ground between the engine and the body (and the battery and the body).
>>
>>A fully charged battery should read closer to 14V What does the voltage
>>read when you turn the headlights on?
>
> Headlights don't come on :(
>
>> If it goes gown to < 9V then the
>>battery is probably shot. (or have a cell low on water)
>>
>>Does the horn work?
>>
>
> Er...didn't try :/
>
>>> I HAVE BEEN HAVING issues in the recent past which seemed to be
>>> "neutral saftey switch" related, but might it actually be the ignition
>>> switch?? (Does the ignition switch block the tranny shifter release
>>> button, or vice versa??)
>>
>>Shift interlock (if the recall was done) IIRC, on or start + brake
>>releases the shifter interlock. So if the switch isn't getting any
>>power the shifter would not release.
>>
>>> Would a bad ignition switch prevent ALL of the lights from working???
>>
>>Lights usually don't rely on the ignition switch. I would suspect
>>a bad battery first, then possibly a blown fusable link.
>
> Where is the fusable link usually located?
> (The Chilton guide talks about repairing a fusable link but doesn't
> specifiy WHERE to find it)
>
> Thanks...
>
> ...
chiltons? >BFG< Usually they are within a foot or so of the battery. Not
exactly sure on your XJ where they are located.
Carl
"noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
news:t3ids21a17u5og09rhmua7rpa29o4hsojp@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:56:28 -0600, "DougW"
> <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>>noneofyourbusiness wrote:
>>> My 95 XJ is dead...
>>> No lights no buzzers no start.
>>>
>>> The battery reads 12.6 (or 12.8?) on a volt meter, and there is good
>>> ground between the engine and the body (and the battery and the body).
>>
>>A fully charged battery should read closer to 14V What does the voltage
>>read when you turn the headlights on?
>
> Headlights don't come on :(
>
>> If it goes gown to < 9V then the
>>battery is probably shot. (or have a cell low on water)
>>
>>Does the horn work?
>>
>
> Er...didn't try :/
>
>>> I HAVE BEEN HAVING issues in the recent past which seemed to be
>>> "neutral saftey switch" related, but might it actually be the ignition
>>> switch?? (Does the ignition switch block the tranny shifter release
>>> button, or vice versa??)
>>
>>Shift interlock (if the recall was done) IIRC, on or start + brake
>>releases the shifter interlock. So if the switch isn't getting any
>>power the shifter would not release.
>>
>>> Would a bad ignition switch prevent ALL of the lights from working???
>>
>>Lights usually don't rely on the ignition switch. I would suspect
>>a bad battery first, then possibly a blown fusable link.
>
> Where is the fusable link usually located?
> (The Chilton guide talks about repairing a fusable link but doesn't
> specifiy WHERE to find it)
>
> Thanks...
>
> ...
02-05-2007, 02:00 AM
#12
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Re: When it rains..it pours... (95 XJ wont start)
What fun would it be if you had all the information you need from a
chiltons? >BFG< Usually they are within a foot or so of the battery. Not
exactly sure on your XJ where they are located.
Carl
"noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
news:t3ids21a17u5og09rhmua7rpa29o4hsojp@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:56:28 -0600, "DougW"
> <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>>noneofyourbusiness wrote:
>>> My 95 XJ is dead...
>>> No lights no buzzers no start.
>>>
>>> The battery reads 12.6 (or 12.8?) on a volt meter, and there is good
>>> ground between the engine and the body (and the battery and the body).
>>
>>A fully charged battery should read closer to 14V What does the voltage
>>read when you turn the headlights on?
>
> Headlights don't come on :(
>
>> If it goes gown to < 9V then the
>>battery is probably shot. (or have a cell low on water)
>>
>>Does the horn work?
>>
>
> Er...didn't try :/
>
>>> I HAVE BEEN HAVING issues in the recent past which seemed to be
>>> "neutral saftey switch" related, but might it actually be the ignition
>>> switch?? (Does the ignition switch block the tranny shifter release
>>> button, or vice versa??)
>>
>>Shift interlock (if the recall was done) IIRC, on or start + brake
>>releases the shifter interlock. So if the switch isn't getting any
>>power the shifter would not release.
>>
>>> Would a bad ignition switch prevent ALL of the lights from working???
>>
>>Lights usually don't rely on the ignition switch. I would suspect
>>a bad battery first, then possibly a blown fusable link.
>
> Where is the fusable link usually located?
> (The Chilton guide talks about repairing a fusable link but doesn't
> specifiy WHERE to find it)
>
> Thanks...
>
> ...
chiltons? >BFG< Usually they are within a foot or so of the battery. Not
exactly sure on your XJ where they are located.
Carl
"noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
news:t3ids21a17u5og09rhmua7rpa29o4hsojp@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:56:28 -0600, "DougW"
> <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>>noneofyourbusiness wrote:
>>> My 95 XJ is dead...
>>> No lights no buzzers no start.
>>>
>>> The battery reads 12.6 (or 12.8?) on a volt meter, and there is good
>>> ground between the engine and the body (and the battery and the body).
>>
>>A fully charged battery should read closer to 14V What does the voltage
>>read when you turn the headlights on?
>
> Headlights don't come on :(
>
>> If it goes gown to < 9V then the
>>battery is probably shot. (or have a cell low on water)
>>
>>Does the horn work?
>>
>
> Er...didn't try :/
>
>>> I HAVE BEEN HAVING issues in the recent past which seemed to be
>>> "neutral saftey switch" related, but might it actually be the ignition
>>> switch?? (Does the ignition switch block the tranny shifter release
>>> button, or vice versa??)
>>
>>Shift interlock (if the recall was done) IIRC, on or start + brake
>>releases the shifter interlock. So if the switch isn't getting any
>>power the shifter would not release.
>>
>>> Would a bad ignition switch prevent ALL of the lights from working???
>>
>>Lights usually don't rely on the ignition switch. I would suspect
>>a bad battery first, then possibly a blown fusable link.
>
> Where is the fusable link usually located?
> (The Chilton guide talks about repairing a fusable link but doesn't
> specifiy WHERE to find it)
>
> Thanks...
>
> ...
02-05-2007, 02:00 AM
#13
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Re: When it rains..it pours... (95 XJ wont start)
What fun would it be if you had all the information you need from a
chiltons? >BFG< Usually they are within a foot or so of the battery. Not
exactly sure on your XJ where they are located.
Carl
"noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
news:t3ids21a17u5og09rhmua7rpa29o4hsojp@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:56:28 -0600, "DougW"
> <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>>noneofyourbusiness wrote:
>>> My 95 XJ is dead...
>>> No lights no buzzers no start.
>>>
>>> The battery reads 12.6 (or 12.8?) on a volt meter, and there is good
>>> ground between the engine and the body (and the battery and the body).
>>
>>A fully charged battery should read closer to 14V What does the voltage
>>read when you turn the headlights on?
>
> Headlights don't come on :(
>
>> If it goes gown to < 9V then the
>>battery is probably shot. (or have a cell low on water)
>>
>>Does the horn work?
>>
>
> Er...didn't try :/
>
>>> I HAVE BEEN HAVING issues in the recent past which seemed to be
>>> "neutral saftey switch" related, but might it actually be the ignition
>>> switch?? (Does the ignition switch block the tranny shifter release
>>> button, or vice versa??)
>>
>>Shift interlock (if the recall was done) IIRC, on or start + brake
>>releases the shifter interlock. So if the switch isn't getting any
>>power the shifter would not release.
>>
>>> Would a bad ignition switch prevent ALL of the lights from working???
>>
>>Lights usually don't rely on the ignition switch. I would suspect
>>a bad battery first, then possibly a blown fusable link.
>
> Where is the fusable link usually located?
> (The Chilton guide talks about repairing a fusable link but doesn't
> specifiy WHERE to find it)
>
> Thanks...
>
> ...
chiltons? >BFG< Usually they are within a foot or so of the battery. Not
exactly sure on your XJ where they are located.
Carl
"noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
news:t3ids21a17u5og09rhmua7rpa29o4hsojp@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:56:28 -0600, "DougW"
> <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>>noneofyourbusiness wrote:
>>> My 95 XJ is dead...
>>> No lights no buzzers no start.
>>>
>>> The battery reads 12.6 (or 12.8?) on a volt meter, and there is good
>>> ground between the engine and the body (and the battery and the body).
>>
>>A fully charged battery should read closer to 14V What does the voltage
>>read when you turn the headlights on?
>
> Headlights don't come on :(
>
>> If it goes gown to < 9V then the
>>battery is probably shot. (or have a cell low on water)
>>
>>Does the horn work?
>>
>
> Er...didn't try :/
>
>>> I HAVE BEEN HAVING issues in the recent past which seemed to be
>>> "neutral saftey switch" related, but might it actually be the ignition
>>> switch?? (Does the ignition switch block the tranny shifter release
>>> button, or vice versa??)
>>
>>Shift interlock (if the recall was done) IIRC, on or start + brake
>>releases the shifter interlock. So if the switch isn't getting any
>>power the shifter would not release.
>>
>>> Would a bad ignition switch prevent ALL of the lights from working???
>>
>>Lights usually don't rely on the ignition switch. I would suspect
>>a bad battery first, then possibly a blown fusable link.
>
> Where is the fusable link usually located?
> (The Chilton guide talks about repairing a fusable link but doesn't
> specifiy WHERE to find it)
>
> Thanks...
>
> ...
02-05-2007, 09:57 AM
#14
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Re: When it rains..it pours... (95 XJ wont start)
I would start by cleaning the battery cable ends. No power at all has
to be a main cable issue.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
noneofyourbusiness wrote:
> My 95 XJ is dead...
> No lights no buzzers no start.
>
> The battery reads 12.6 (or 12.8?) on a volt meter, and there is good
> ground between the engine and the body (and the battery and the body).
>
> The "main" fuse in the engine compartment (40 amp) is good (but I
> cracked open the shell trying to pull it out), and the TCU fuse in the
> passenger compartment is good.
>
> I HAVE BEEN HAVING issues in the recent past which seemed to be
> "neutral saftey switch" related, but might it actually be the ignition
> switch?? (Does the ignition switch block the tranny shifter release
> button, or vice versa??)
>
> Would a bad ignition switch prevent ALL of the lights from working???
>
> And, with all the recent rain, I haven't ridden my motorcycle in about
> 3-4 weeks, so it didn't want to start up either! Not even jumpered to
> the Jeeps battery !
>
> What else can I check before calling my mechanic?
>
> TIA
> :(
>
> ...
to be a main cable issue.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
noneofyourbusiness wrote:
> My 95 XJ is dead...
> No lights no buzzers no start.
>
> The battery reads 12.6 (or 12.8?) on a volt meter, and there is good
> ground between the engine and the body (and the battery and the body).
>
> The "main" fuse in the engine compartment (40 amp) is good (but I
> cracked open the shell trying to pull it out), and the TCU fuse in the
> passenger compartment is good.
>
> I HAVE BEEN HAVING issues in the recent past which seemed to be
> "neutral saftey switch" related, but might it actually be the ignition
> switch?? (Does the ignition switch block the tranny shifter release
> button, or vice versa??)
>
> Would a bad ignition switch prevent ALL of the lights from working???
>
> And, with all the recent rain, I haven't ridden my motorcycle in about
> 3-4 weeks, so it didn't want to start up either! Not even jumpered to
> the Jeeps battery !
>
> What else can I check before calling my mechanic?
>
> TIA
> :(
>
> ...
02-05-2007, 09:57 AM
#15
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Posts: n/a
Re: When it rains..it pours... (95 XJ wont start)
I would start by cleaning the battery cable ends. No power at all has
to be a main cable issue.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
noneofyourbusiness wrote:
> My 95 XJ is dead...
> No lights no buzzers no start.
>
> The battery reads 12.6 (or 12.8?) on a volt meter, and there is good
> ground between the engine and the body (and the battery and the body).
>
> The "main" fuse in the engine compartment (40 amp) is good (but I
> cracked open the shell trying to pull it out), and the TCU fuse in the
> passenger compartment is good.
>
> I HAVE BEEN HAVING issues in the recent past which seemed to be
> "neutral saftey switch" related, but might it actually be the ignition
> switch?? (Does the ignition switch block the tranny shifter release
> button, or vice versa??)
>
> Would a bad ignition switch prevent ALL of the lights from working???
>
> And, with all the recent rain, I haven't ridden my motorcycle in about
> 3-4 weeks, so it didn't want to start up either! Not even jumpered to
> the Jeeps battery !
>
> What else can I check before calling my mechanic?
>
> TIA
> :(
>
> ...
to be a main cable issue.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
noneofyourbusiness wrote:
> My 95 XJ is dead...
> No lights no buzzers no start.
>
> The battery reads 12.6 (or 12.8?) on a volt meter, and there is good
> ground between the engine and the body (and the battery and the body).
>
> The "main" fuse in the engine compartment (40 amp) is good (but I
> cracked open the shell trying to pull it out), and the TCU fuse in the
> passenger compartment is good.
>
> I HAVE BEEN HAVING issues in the recent past which seemed to be
> "neutral saftey switch" related, but might it actually be the ignition
> switch?? (Does the ignition switch block the tranny shifter release
> button, or vice versa??)
>
> Would a bad ignition switch prevent ALL of the lights from working???
>
> And, with all the recent rain, I haven't ridden my motorcycle in about
> 3-4 weeks, so it didn't want to start up either! Not even jumpered to
> the Jeeps battery !
>
> What else can I check before calling my mechanic?
>
> TIA
> :(
>
> ...
02-05-2007, 09:57 AM
#16
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Posts: n/a
Re: When it rains..it pours... (95 XJ wont start)
I would start by cleaning the battery cable ends. No power at all has
to be a main cable issue.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
noneofyourbusiness wrote:
> My 95 XJ is dead...
> No lights no buzzers no start.
>
> The battery reads 12.6 (or 12.8?) on a volt meter, and there is good
> ground between the engine and the body (and the battery and the body).
>
> The "main" fuse in the engine compartment (40 amp) is good (but I
> cracked open the shell trying to pull it out), and the TCU fuse in the
> passenger compartment is good.
>
> I HAVE BEEN HAVING issues in the recent past which seemed to be
> "neutral saftey switch" related, but might it actually be the ignition
> switch?? (Does the ignition switch block the tranny shifter release
> button, or vice versa??)
>
> Would a bad ignition switch prevent ALL of the lights from working???
>
> And, with all the recent rain, I haven't ridden my motorcycle in about
> 3-4 weeks, so it didn't want to start up either! Not even jumpered to
> the Jeeps battery !
>
> What else can I check before calling my mechanic?
>
> TIA
> :(
>
> ...
to be a main cable issue.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
noneofyourbusiness wrote:
> My 95 XJ is dead...
> No lights no buzzers no start.
>
> The battery reads 12.6 (or 12.8?) on a volt meter, and there is good
> ground between the engine and the body (and the battery and the body).
>
> The "main" fuse in the engine compartment (40 amp) is good (but I
> cracked open the shell trying to pull it out), and the TCU fuse in the
> passenger compartment is good.
>
> I HAVE BEEN HAVING issues in the recent past which seemed to be
> "neutral saftey switch" related, but might it actually be the ignition
> switch?? (Does the ignition switch block the tranny shifter release
> button, or vice versa??)
>
> Would a bad ignition switch prevent ALL of the lights from working???
>
> And, with all the recent rain, I haven't ridden my motorcycle in about
> 3-4 weeks, so it didn't want to start up either! Not even jumpered to
> the Jeeps battery !
>
> What else can I check before calling my mechanic?
>
> TIA
> :(
>
> ...
02-05-2007, 09:57 AM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: When it rains..it pours... (95 XJ wont start)
I would start by cleaning the battery cable ends. No power at all has
to be a main cable issue.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
noneofyourbusiness wrote:
> My 95 XJ is dead...
> No lights no buzzers no start.
>
> The battery reads 12.6 (or 12.8?) on a volt meter, and there is good
> ground between the engine and the body (and the battery and the body).
>
> The "main" fuse in the engine compartment (40 amp) is good (but I
> cracked open the shell trying to pull it out), and the TCU fuse in the
> passenger compartment is good.
>
> I HAVE BEEN HAVING issues in the recent past which seemed to be
> "neutral saftey switch" related, but might it actually be the ignition
> switch?? (Does the ignition switch block the tranny shifter release
> button, or vice versa??)
>
> Would a bad ignition switch prevent ALL of the lights from working???
>
> And, with all the recent rain, I haven't ridden my motorcycle in about
> 3-4 weeks, so it didn't want to start up either! Not even jumpered to
> the Jeeps battery !
>
> What else can I check before calling my mechanic?
>
> TIA
> :(
>
> ...
to be a main cable issue.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
noneofyourbusiness wrote:
> My 95 XJ is dead...
> No lights no buzzers no start.
>
> The battery reads 12.6 (or 12.8?) on a volt meter, and there is good
> ground between the engine and the body (and the battery and the body).
>
> The "main" fuse in the engine compartment (40 amp) is good (but I
> cracked open the shell trying to pull it out), and the TCU fuse in the
> passenger compartment is good.
>
> I HAVE BEEN HAVING issues in the recent past which seemed to be
> "neutral saftey switch" related, but might it actually be the ignition
> switch?? (Does the ignition switch block the tranny shifter release
> button, or vice versa??)
>
> Would a bad ignition switch prevent ALL of the lights from working???
>
> And, with all the recent rain, I haven't ridden my motorcycle in about
> 3-4 weeks, so it didn't want to start up either! Not even jumpered to
> the Jeeps battery !
>
> What else can I check before calling my mechanic?
>
> TIA
> :(
>
> ...
02-06-2007, 10:27 PM
#18
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Re: When it rains..it pours... (95 XJ wont start)
There is an undersized power wire that runs from the ignition switch
into the column harness just below the steering wheel. Remove the
cover from the bottom of the column between the trun signal and
ignition switch and inspect for a melted or burned wire attached to
the switch. I attached an additional jumper wire at the switch and
supplemented the factory wire for a few inches. It seems that the
"tilt wheel" flexing up and down causes this to happen quicker.
Good luck, Bruce
into the column harness just below the steering wheel. Remove the
cover from the bottom of the column between the trun signal and
ignition switch and inspect for a melted or burned wire attached to
the switch. I attached an additional jumper wire at the switch and
supplemented the factory wire for a few inches. It seems that the
"tilt wheel" flexing up and down causes this to happen quicker.
Good luck, Bruce
02-06-2007, 10:27 PM
#19
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Re: When it rains..it pours... (95 XJ wont start)
There is an undersized power wire that runs from the ignition switch
into the column harness just below the steering wheel. Remove the
cover from the bottom of the column between the trun signal and
ignition switch and inspect for a melted or burned wire attached to
the switch. I attached an additional jumper wire at the switch and
supplemented the factory wire for a few inches. It seems that the
"tilt wheel" flexing up and down causes this to happen quicker.
Good luck, Bruce
into the column harness just below the steering wheel. Remove the
cover from the bottom of the column between the trun signal and
ignition switch and inspect for a melted or burned wire attached to
the switch. I attached an additional jumper wire at the switch and
supplemented the factory wire for a few inches. It seems that the
"tilt wheel" flexing up and down causes this to happen quicker.
Good luck, Bruce
02-06-2007, 10:27 PM
#20
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Posts: n/a
Re: When it rains..it pours... (95 XJ wont start)
There is an undersized power wire that runs from the ignition switch
into the column harness just below the steering wheel. Remove the
cover from the bottom of the column between the trun signal and
ignition switch and inspect for a melted or burned wire attached to
the switch. I attached an additional jumper wire at the switch and
supplemented the factory wire for a few inches. It seems that the
"tilt wheel" flexing up and down causes this to happen quicker.
Good luck, Bruce
into the column harness just below the steering wheel. Remove the
cover from the bottom of the column between the trun signal and
ignition switch and inspect for a melted or burned wire attached to
the switch. I attached an additional jumper wire at the switch and
supplemented the factory wire for a few inches. It seems that the
"tilt wheel" flexing up and down causes this to happen quicker.
Good luck, Bruce