Re: Wheel stud lubrication - good or bad?
 

That's what makes me believe, that this "dry thread" nonsense, is insane.
Nowhere else have I seen torque tightening specifications, for "dry
threads". It is always "lightly lubricated" threads. By the way, "those
el-cheapo OEM lug nuts" that JD Adams is talking about, are probably
designed that way on purpose, to spare the wheel studs from the kind of
damage that those "heavily chromed, forged steel lugs" are going to be
dishing out.

This is almost as much fun, as last night's Town Council meeting.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4421CE81.1A072383@cox.net...
> I use chassis grease, no where does it call for it, but I drive in
> occasionally in salt water, at San Felpie, or in the Borrego Bad Lands,
> for those that want to run them dry, then at least protect them with
> factory hub caps. If you're replaced a tire that's been bolted to a
> trailer or something that hasn't moved in twenty years, then you know
> you're going to have to break a couple of studs, if they were dry.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JD Adams wrote:
> >
> > Yesterday was a semi-nice day, so I decided to catch up on some
> > maintenance --oil and filter change (M1 the Puro 30001 sure works nice
> > on a 4.0!), TB cleaning, new Puro air filter, front-end lube, powerwash
> > engine and fenderwells, a quick run through the local car wash, the
> > usual. Work is slow right now and I'm bored.
> >
> > I later decided to go the extra mile and do a 4-wheel tire rotation and
> > change out those el-cheapo OEM lug nuts with a good set of heavily
> > chromed, forged steel lugs. While I had one side up in the air doing
> > my thing, a neighbor commented on my practice of applying bearing
> > grease to the studs before torquing the nuts down to 90 ft/lbs.
> >
> > He claims that it's a bad practice, and that the lugs will loosen over
> > time because of it. I politely disagreed, saying that it is the
> > friction between the tapered nut face and the wheel that keeps
> > everything tight rather than friction from fastener threadfaces, and
> > that the only real way to get good, accurate, consistant torque is to
> > put a TINY BIT of lubricant on the threads before reassembly.
> >
> > I know this all sounds petty, but I'm wondering if anyone here has
> > heard of mishaps that were the direct result of 'lug nut greasin'? I
> > like knowing that the nuts will spin off easily many years later and
> > won't rust up, no matter how much muck I plow through. And I make sure
> > everything is cool to the touch before everthing gets tightened down
> > --all pretty common sense stuff IMO.
> >
> > Am I offbase here? Admittedly, this is 'old-school' technology, but it
> > makes a lot of sense to me, much like 'priming' the engine after an oil
> > change before actually firing it up. (Yeah, I do that too; I
> > disconnect the crank sensor, then reset the MIL when I'm done.)
> >
> > -JD

Re: Off Topic Wheel stud lubrication - good or bad?
 

Hi Earle,
My Oceanside, Vista, Escondido, City Council meetings used to be
televised by the cable company until they realized the looks like fools,
quibble over the small stuff. And it's how harder to see that it takes
about sixty thousand in grease to change a lot from residential, to
apartment zoning.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> That's what makes me believe, that this "dry thread" nonsense, is insane.
> Nowhere else have I seen torque tightening specifications, for "dry
> threads". It is always "lightly lubricated" threads. By the way, "those
> el-cheapo OEM lug nuts" that JD Adams is talking about, are probably
> designed that way on purpose, to spare the wheel studs from the kind of
> damage that those "heavily chromed, forged steel lugs" are going to be
> dishing out.
>
> This is almost as much fun, as last night's Town Council meeting.
>
> Earle

Re: Off Topic Wheel stud lubrication - good or bad?
 

Hi Earle,
My Oceanside, Vista, Escondido, City Council meetings used to be
televised by the cable company until they realized the looks like fools,
quibble over the small stuff. And it's how harder to see that it takes
about sixty thousand in grease to change a lot from residential, to
apartment zoning.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> That's what makes me believe, that this "dry thread" nonsense, is insane.
> Nowhere else have I seen torque tightening specifications, for "dry
> threads". It is always "lightly lubricated" threads. By the way, "those
> el-cheapo OEM lug nuts" that JD Adams is talking about, are probably
> designed that way on purpose, to spare the wheel studs from the kind of
> damage that those "heavily chromed, forged steel lugs" are going to be
> dishing out.
>
> This is almost as much fun, as last night's Town Council meeting.
>
> Earle

Re: Off Topic Wheel stud lubrication - good or bad?
 

Hi Earle,
My Oceanside, Vista, Escondido, City Council meetings used to be
televised by the cable company until they realized the looks like fools,
quibble over the small stuff. And it's how harder to see that it takes
about sixty thousand in grease to change a lot from residential, to
apartment zoning.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> That's what makes me believe, that this "dry thread" nonsense, is insane.
> Nowhere else have I seen torque tightening specifications, for "dry
> threads". It is always "lightly lubricated" threads. By the way, "those
> el-cheapo OEM lug nuts" that JD Adams is talking about, are probably
> designed that way on purpose, to spare the wheel studs from the kind of
> damage that those "heavily chromed, forged steel lugs" are going to be
> dishing out.
>
> This is almost as much fun, as last night's Town Council meeting.
>
> Earle

Re: Off Topic Wheel stud lubrication - good or bad?
 

Hi Earle,
My Oceanside, Vista, Escondido, City Council meetings used to be
televised by the cable company until they realized the looks like fools,
quibble over the small stuff. And it's how harder to see that it takes
about sixty thousand in grease to change a lot from residential, to
apartment zoning.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> That's what makes me believe, that this "dry thread" nonsense, is insane.
> Nowhere else have I seen torque tightening specifications, for "dry
> threads". It is always "lightly lubricated" threads. By the way, "those
> el-cheapo OEM lug nuts" that JD Adams is talking about, are probably
> designed that way on purpose, to spare the wheel studs from the kind of
> damage that those "heavily chromed, forged steel lugs" are going to be
> dishing out.
>
> This is almost as much fun, as last night's Town Council meeting.
>
> Earle

Re: Wheel stud lubrication - good or bad?
 

In that situation, I would use PB Blaster prior to loosening to save the
lugs. I can't see how grease, put on the threads after the nut went on,
could possibly be a problem on a lug that won't see unthreading for 20
yrs. :)

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I use chassis grease, no where does it call for it, but I drive in
> occasionally in salt water, at San Felpie, or in the Borrego Bad Lands,
> for those that want to run them dry, then at least protect them with
> factory hub caps. If you're replaced a tire that's been bolted to a
> trailer or something that hasn't moved in twenty years, then you know
> you're going to have to break a couple of studs, if they were dry.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Re: Wheel stud lubrication - good or bad?
 

In that situation, I would use PB Blaster prior to loosening to save the
lugs. I can't see how grease, put on the threads after the nut went on,
could possibly be a problem on a lug that won't see unthreading for 20
yrs. :)

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I use chassis grease, no where does it call for it, but I drive in
> occasionally in salt water, at San Felpie, or in the Borrego Bad Lands,
> for those that want to run them dry, then at least protect them with
> factory hub caps. If you're replaced a tire that's been bolted to a
> trailer or something that hasn't moved in twenty years, then you know
> you're going to have to break a couple of studs, if they were dry.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Re: Wheel stud lubrication - good or bad?
 

In that situation, I would use PB Blaster prior to loosening to save the
lugs. I can't see how grease, put on the threads after the nut went on,
could possibly be a problem on a lug that won't see unthreading for 20
yrs. :)

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I use chassis grease, no where does it call for it, but I drive in
> occasionally in salt water, at San Felpie, or in the Borrego Bad Lands,
> for those that want to run them dry, then at least protect them with
> factory hub caps. If you're replaced a tire that's been bolted to a
> trailer or something that hasn't moved in twenty years, then you know
> you're going to have to break a couple of studs, if they were dry.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Re: Wheel stud lubrication - good or bad?
 

In that situation, I would use PB Blaster prior to loosening to save the
lugs. I can't see how grease, put on the threads after the nut went on,
could possibly be a problem on a lug that won't see unthreading for 20
yrs. :)

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I use chassis grease, no where does it call for it, but I drive in
> occasionally in salt water, at San Felpie, or in the Borrego Bad Lands,
> for those that want to run them dry, then at least protect them with
> factory hub caps. If you're replaced a tire that's been bolted to a
> trailer or something that hasn't moved in twenty years, then you know
> you're going to have to break a couple of studs, if they were dry.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Re: Wheel stud lubrication - good or bad?
 

How many people are at your town council meeting in Silverton? ;)

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Earle Horton wrote:
> That's what makes me believe, that this "dry thread" nonsense, is insane.
> Nowhere else have I seen torque tightening specifications, for "dry
> threads". It is always "lightly lubricated" threads. By the way, "those
> el-cheapo OEM lug nuts" that JD Adams is talking about, are probably
> designed that way on purpose, to spare the wheel studs from the kind of
> damage that those "heavily chromed, forged steel lugs" are going to be
> dishing out.
>
> This is almost as much fun, as last night's Town Council meeting.
>
> Earle