Wheel bearings
10-15-2003, 10:37 AM
#31
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Re: Wheel bearings
You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
washer tabs over.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> On the tightness issue, I have been having trouble with extremely short life
> of the wheel bearings on the front. I thought the torque spec was something
> like 80 pounds on the inner spindle nut, which (as I sit here and give
> advise) hits me as a bit aggressive, and perhaps part of why I keep
> replacing the wheel bearings. Do you know the exact spec for each of the
> spindle nuts on the CJ?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F8C005C.319227C9@sympatico.ca...
> > Rotors or the hub?
> >
> > I guess I read or took that wrong.
> >
> > As others have mentioned, a screwdriver works quite well for the big
> > nut, especially if one has been used before. They are not on tight.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > That helps get the calipers off, but he asked about the rotors.
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3F8AB9DD.A664364B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > My 86 needs a 7 mm allen key.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Hrd wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 79 CJ-7... What special socket is needed to remove the rotors to
> > > replace the
> > > > > front wheel bearings?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
washer tabs over.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> On the tightness issue, I have been having trouble with extremely short life
> of the wheel bearings on the front. I thought the torque spec was something
> like 80 pounds on the inner spindle nut, which (as I sit here and give
> advise) hits me as a bit aggressive, and perhaps part of why I keep
> replacing the wheel bearings. Do you know the exact spec for each of the
> spindle nuts on the CJ?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F8C005C.319227C9@sympatico.ca...
> > Rotors or the hub?
> >
> > I guess I read or took that wrong.
> >
> > As others have mentioned, a screwdriver works quite well for the big
> > nut, especially if one has been used before. They are not on tight.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > That helps get the calipers off, but he asked about the rotors.
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3F8AB9DD.A664364B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > My 86 needs a 7 mm allen key.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Hrd wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 79 CJ-7... What special socket is needed to remove the rotors to
> > > replace the
> > > > > front wheel bearings?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
10-15-2003, 03:58 PM
#32
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Re: Wheel bearings
You're not compensating for the slop of the treads, your still
thinking like it's passenger car using only a carter key.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> washer tabs over.
>
> Mike
thinking like it's passenger car using only a carter key.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> washer tabs over.
>
> Mike
10-15-2003, 03:58 PM
#33
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Posts: n/a
Re: Wheel bearings
You're not compensating for the slop of the treads, your still
thinking like it's passenger car using only a carter key.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> washer tabs over.
>
> Mike
thinking like it's passenger car using only a carter key.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> washer tabs over.
>
> Mike
10-15-2003, 03:58 PM
#34
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Posts: n/a
Re: Wheel bearings
You're not compensating for the slop of the treads, your still
thinking like it's passenger car using only a carter key.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> washer tabs over.
>
> Mike
thinking like it's passenger car using only a carter key.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> washer tabs over.
>
> Mike
10-15-2003, 04:22 PM
#35
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Re: Wheel bearings
My FSM says the same thing, but the torque spec they use is 80 pounds
instead of 50. Tighten to spec, then back off 1/8th turn. My FSM says the
outer nut gets tightened to 50 lbs, then the lock washer gets folded over.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8D5B95.8AF4ECA@sympatico.ca...
> You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> washer tabs over.
>
> Mike
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > On the tightness issue, I have been having trouble with extremely short
life
> > of the wheel bearings on the front. I thought the torque spec was
something
> > like 80 pounds on the inner spindle nut, which (as I sit here and give
> > advise) hits me as a bit aggressive, and perhaps part of why I keep
> > replacing the wheel bearings. Do you know the exact spec for each of the
> > spindle nuts on the CJ?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F8C005C.319227C9@sympatico.ca...
> > > Rotors or the hub?
> > >
> > > I guess I read or took that wrong.
> > >
> > > As others have mentioned, a screwdriver works quite well for the big
> > > nut, especially if one has been used before. They are not on tight.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That helps get the calipers off, but he asked about the rotors.
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:3F8AB9DD.A664364B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > My 86 needs a 7 mm allen key.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Hrd wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 79 CJ-7... What special socket is needed to remove the rotors
to
> > > > replace the
> > > > > > front wheel bearings?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
instead of 50. Tighten to spec, then back off 1/8th turn. My FSM says the
outer nut gets tightened to 50 lbs, then the lock washer gets folded over.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8D5B95.8AF4ECA@sympatico.ca...
> You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> washer tabs over.
>
> Mike
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > On the tightness issue, I have been having trouble with extremely short
life
> > of the wheel bearings on the front. I thought the torque spec was
something
> > like 80 pounds on the inner spindle nut, which (as I sit here and give
> > advise) hits me as a bit aggressive, and perhaps part of why I keep
> > replacing the wheel bearings. Do you know the exact spec for each of the
> > spindle nuts on the CJ?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F8C005C.319227C9@sympatico.ca...
> > > Rotors or the hub?
> > >
> > > I guess I read or took that wrong.
> > >
> > > As others have mentioned, a screwdriver works quite well for the big
> > > nut, especially if one has been used before. They are not on tight.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That helps get the calipers off, but he asked about the rotors.
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:3F8AB9DD.A664364B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > My 86 needs a 7 mm allen key.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Hrd wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 79 CJ-7... What special socket is needed to remove the rotors
to
> > > > replace the
> > > > > > front wheel bearings?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
10-15-2003, 04:22 PM
#36
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Re: Wheel bearings
My FSM says the same thing, but the torque spec they use is 80 pounds
instead of 50. Tighten to spec, then back off 1/8th turn. My FSM says the
outer nut gets tightened to 50 lbs, then the lock washer gets folded over.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8D5B95.8AF4ECA@sympatico.ca...
> You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> washer tabs over.
>
> Mike
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > On the tightness issue, I have been having trouble with extremely short
life
> > of the wheel bearings on the front. I thought the torque spec was
something
> > like 80 pounds on the inner spindle nut, which (as I sit here and give
> > advise) hits me as a bit aggressive, and perhaps part of why I keep
> > replacing the wheel bearings. Do you know the exact spec for each of the
> > spindle nuts on the CJ?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F8C005C.319227C9@sympatico.ca...
> > > Rotors or the hub?
> > >
> > > I guess I read or took that wrong.
> > >
> > > As others have mentioned, a screwdriver works quite well for the big
> > > nut, especially if one has been used before. They are not on tight.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That helps get the calipers off, but he asked about the rotors.
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:3F8AB9DD.A664364B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > My 86 needs a 7 mm allen key.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Hrd wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 79 CJ-7... What special socket is needed to remove the rotors
to
> > > > replace the
> > > > > > front wheel bearings?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
instead of 50. Tighten to spec, then back off 1/8th turn. My FSM says the
outer nut gets tightened to 50 lbs, then the lock washer gets folded over.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8D5B95.8AF4ECA@sympatico.ca...
> You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> washer tabs over.
>
> Mike
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > On the tightness issue, I have been having trouble with extremely short
life
> > of the wheel bearings on the front. I thought the torque spec was
something
> > like 80 pounds on the inner spindle nut, which (as I sit here and give
> > advise) hits me as a bit aggressive, and perhaps part of why I keep
> > replacing the wheel bearings. Do you know the exact spec for each of the
> > spindle nuts on the CJ?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F8C005C.319227C9@sympatico.ca...
> > > Rotors or the hub?
> > >
> > > I guess I read or took that wrong.
> > >
> > > As others have mentioned, a screwdriver works quite well for the big
> > > nut, especially if one has been used before. They are not on tight.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That helps get the calipers off, but he asked about the rotors.
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:3F8AB9DD.A664364B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > My 86 needs a 7 mm allen key.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Hrd wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 79 CJ-7... What special socket is needed to remove the rotors
to
> > > > replace the
> > > > > > front wheel bearings?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
10-15-2003, 04:22 PM
#37
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Re: Wheel bearings
My FSM says the same thing, but the torque spec they use is 80 pounds
instead of 50. Tighten to spec, then back off 1/8th turn. My FSM says the
outer nut gets tightened to 50 lbs, then the lock washer gets folded over.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8D5B95.8AF4ECA@sympatico.ca...
> You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> washer tabs over.
>
> Mike
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > On the tightness issue, I have been having trouble with extremely short
life
> > of the wheel bearings on the front. I thought the torque spec was
something
> > like 80 pounds on the inner spindle nut, which (as I sit here and give
> > advise) hits me as a bit aggressive, and perhaps part of why I keep
> > replacing the wheel bearings. Do you know the exact spec for each of the
> > spindle nuts on the CJ?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F8C005C.319227C9@sympatico.ca...
> > > Rotors or the hub?
> > >
> > > I guess I read or took that wrong.
> > >
> > > As others have mentioned, a screwdriver works quite well for the big
> > > nut, especially if one has been used before. They are not on tight.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That helps get the calipers off, but he asked about the rotors.
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:3F8AB9DD.A664364B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > My 86 needs a 7 mm allen key.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Hrd wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 79 CJ-7... What special socket is needed to remove the rotors
to
> > > > replace the
> > > > > > front wheel bearings?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
instead of 50. Tighten to spec, then back off 1/8th turn. My FSM says the
outer nut gets tightened to 50 lbs, then the lock washer gets folded over.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8D5B95.8AF4ECA@sympatico.ca...
> You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> washer tabs over.
>
> Mike
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > On the tightness issue, I have been having trouble with extremely short
life
> > of the wheel bearings on the front. I thought the torque spec was
something
> > like 80 pounds on the inner spindle nut, which (as I sit here and give
> > advise) hits me as a bit aggressive, and perhaps part of why I keep
> > replacing the wheel bearings. Do you know the exact spec for each of the
> > spindle nuts on the CJ?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F8C005C.319227C9@sympatico.ca...
> > > Rotors or the hub?
> > >
> > > I guess I read or took that wrong.
> > >
> > > As others have mentioned, a screwdriver works quite well for the big
> > > nut, especially if one has been used before. They are not on tight.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That helps get the calipers off, but he asked about the rotors.
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:3F8AB9DD.A664364B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > My 86 needs a 7 mm allen key.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Hrd wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 79 CJ-7... What special socket is needed to remove the rotors
to
> > > > replace the
> > > > > > front wheel bearings?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
10-15-2003, 04:29 PM
#38
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wheel bearings
I don't understand what you are saying Bill.
The below was right out of my Haynes manual except for the 'around' on
50 ft lb., the book says to do either.
Works for me, my 33's haven't wrecked a set since I put new ones in
during my rebuild in 00.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You're not compensating for the slop of the treads, your still
> thinking like it's passenger car using only a carter key.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> > bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> > and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> > washer tabs over.
> >
> > Mike
The below was right out of my Haynes manual except for the 'around' on
50 ft lb., the book says to do either.
Works for me, my 33's haven't wrecked a set since I put new ones in
during my rebuild in 00.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You're not compensating for the slop of the treads, your still
> thinking like it's passenger car using only a carter key.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> > bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> > and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> > washer tabs over.
> >
> > Mike
10-15-2003, 04:29 PM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wheel bearings
I don't understand what you are saying Bill.
The below was right out of my Haynes manual except for the 'around' on
50 ft lb., the book says to do either.
Works for me, my 33's haven't wrecked a set since I put new ones in
during my rebuild in 00.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You're not compensating for the slop of the treads, your still
> thinking like it's passenger car using only a carter key.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> > bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> > and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> > washer tabs over.
> >
> > Mike
The below was right out of my Haynes manual except for the 'around' on
50 ft lb., the book says to do either.
Works for me, my 33's haven't wrecked a set since I put new ones in
during my rebuild in 00.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You're not compensating for the slop of the treads, your still
> thinking like it's passenger car using only a carter key.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> > bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> > and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> > washer tabs over.
> >
> > Mike
10-15-2003, 04:29 PM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wheel bearings
I don't understand what you are saying Bill.
The below was right out of my Haynes manual except for the 'around' on
50 ft lb., the book says to do either.
Works for me, my 33's haven't wrecked a set since I put new ones in
during my rebuild in 00.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You're not compensating for the slop of the treads, your still
> thinking like it's passenger car using only a carter key.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> > bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> > and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> > washer tabs over.
> >
> > Mike
The below was right out of my Haynes manual except for the 'around' on
50 ft lb., the book says to do either.
Works for me, my 33's haven't wrecked a set since I put new ones in
during my rebuild in 00.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You're not compensating for the slop of the treads, your still
> thinking like it's passenger car using only a carter key.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > You tighten the inner nut while rotating the wheel until the bearings
> > bind or around 50 ft lb. You then back it off 1/16 turn, add the washer
> > and the outside lock nut and torque that to 50 ft lb then bend the
> > washer tabs over.
> >
> > Mike