what trail rated really means
05-04-2005, 06:42 PM
#61
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Re: what trail rated really means
That looks like he came down on the edge of a paved road. That looks
like an ATV shortcut.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Bob Casanova wrote:
>
> On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:43:52 -0700, the following appeared
> in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by L.W.(ßill) ------
> III <----------@***.net>:
>
> Probably. But I wouldn't do it at such a low speed that I
> got high-centered, and if I could I'd take it at an angle.
> That's why I rated the driver "moron"; maybe "completely
> clueless" would have been better.
>
> And I may have misinterpreted, but it looked to me like one
> of those "staircases made of crossways logs" things; hence
> the "staircase" comment.
>
> > You mean you couldn't make over that bank?????? I can see it's a
> >well used path to the road. http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:--------------------
> >
> >Bob Casanova wrote:
> >>
> >> Yeah, but not "staircase rated". And the driver's rated
> >> "moron".
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> "Evidence confirming an observation is
> evidence that the observation is wrong."
> - McNameless
like an ATV shortcut.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Bob Casanova wrote:
>
> On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:43:52 -0700, the following appeared
> in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by L.W.(ßill) ------
> III <----------@***.net>:
>
> Probably. But I wouldn't do it at such a low speed that I
> got high-centered, and if I could I'd take it at an angle.
> That's why I rated the driver "moron"; maybe "completely
> clueless" would have been better.
>
> And I may have misinterpreted, but it looked to me like one
> of those "staircases made of crossways logs" things; hence
> the "staircase" comment.
>
> > You mean you couldn't make over that bank?????? I can see it's a
> >well used path to the road. http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:--------------------
> >
> >Bob Casanova wrote:
> >>
> >> Yeah, but not "staircase rated". And the driver's rated
> >> "moron".
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> "Evidence confirming an observation is
> evidence that the observation is wrong."
> - McNameless
05-04-2005, 08:56 PM
#62
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Re: what trail rated really means
With all due respect to the other posters, I don't see how this driver did
anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>) It
looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ and
got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer case.
That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's and XJ's
abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken U
joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like this. The
folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
Dean
Shots of me and my friends "abusing" our Jeeps.
http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
On Tue, 3 May 2005 14:44:20 -0600, "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote:
>Is this a trail rated Liberty?
>
>http://68.49.40.190/videos/7.wmv
>
>
>good fun.
>
>
>
anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>) It
looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ and
got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer case.
That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's and XJ's
abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken U
joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like this. The
folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
Dean
Shots of me and my friends "abusing" our Jeeps.
http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
On Tue, 3 May 2005 14:44:20 -0600, "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote:
>Is this a trail rated Liberty?
>
>http://68.49.40.190/videos/7.wmv
>
>
>good fun.
>
>
>
05-04-2005, 08:56 PM
#63
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Re: what trail rated really means
With all due respect to the other posters, I don't see how this driver did
anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>) It
looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ and
got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer case.
That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's and XJ's
abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken U
joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like this. The
folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
Dean
Shots of me and my friends "abusing" our Jeeps.
http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
On Tue, 3 May 2005 14:44:20 -0600, "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote:
>Is this a trail rated Liberty?
>
>http://68.49.40.190/videos/7.wmv
>
>
>good fun.
>
>
>
anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>) It
looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ and
got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer case.
That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's and XJ's
abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken U
joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like this. The
folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
Dean
Shots of me and my friends "abusing" our Jeeps.
http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
On Tue, 3 May 2005 14:44:20 -0600, "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote:
>Is this a trail rated Liberty?
>
>http://68.49.40.190/videos/7.wmv
>
>
>good fun.
>
>
>
05-04-2005, 08:56 PM
#64
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Re: what trail rated really means
With all due respect to the other posters, I don't see how this driver did
anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>) It
looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ and
got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer case.
That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's and XJ's
abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken U
joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like this. The
folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
Dean
Shots of me and my friends "abusing" our Jeeps.
http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
On Tue, 3 May 2005 14:44:20 -0600, "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote:
>Is this a trail rated Liberty?
>
>http://68.49.40.190/videos/7.wmv
>
>
>good fun.
>
>
>
anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>) It
looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ and
got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer case.
That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's and XJ's
abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken U
joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like this. The
folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
Dean
Shots of me and my friends "abusing" our Jeeps.
http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
On Tue, 3 May 2005 14:44:20 -0600, "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote:
>Is this a trail rated Liberty?
>
>http://68.49.40.190/videos/7.wmv
>
>
>good fun.
>
>
>
05-04-2005, 08:56 PM
#65
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Re: what trail rated really means
With all due respect to the other posters, I don't see how this driver did
anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>) It
looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ and
got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer case.
That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's and XJ's
abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken U
joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like this. The
folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
Dean
Shots of me and my friends "abusing" our Jeeps.
http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
On Tue, 3 May 2005 14:44:20 -0600, "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote:
>Is this a trail rated Liberty?
>
>http://68.49.40.190/videos/7.wmv
>
>
>good fun.
>
>
>
anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>) It
looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ and
got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer case.
That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's and XJ's
abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken U
joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like this. The
folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
Dean
Shots of me and my friends "abusing" our Jeeps.
http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
On Tue, 3 May 2005 14:44:20 -0600, "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote:
>Is this a trail rated Liberty?
>
>http://68.49.40.190/videos/7.wmv
>
>
>good fun.
>
>
>
05-04-2005, 09:34 PM
#66
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Re: what trail rated really means
I was actually just about to post a similar message. I hurt my YJ FAR FAR
worse than that a couple of times ...one in particular where I stalled and
slid down about a 50 degree hill and into a rock that practically ate the
underside of my Jeep (especially the exhaust system). Despite all of the
hardships ...especially since I was a rookie offroader ...I never had any
serious breakages like this. I think he took the hill a little fast but I'm
still surprised at the extent of the damage done. The Liberty is "trail"
ready ...whereby trail implies nothing more than a backlane or class 1
hiking trail.
"Bill" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:iaqi7110efelc2icm64grajr6bgrq49a65@4ax.com...
> With all due respect to the other posters, I don't see how this driver did
> anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>)
It
> looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ
and
> got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer
case.
> That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's
and XJ's
> abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken
U
> joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
>
> It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like
this. The
> folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
> Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
worse than that a couple of times ...one in particular where I stalled and
slid down about a 50 degree hill and into a rock that practically ate the
underside of my Jeep (especially the exhaust system). Despite all of the
hardships ...especially since I was a rookie offroader ...I never had any
serious breakages like this. I think he took the hill a little fast but I'm
still surprised at the extent of the damage done. The Liberty is "trail"
ready ...whereby trail implies nothing more than a backlane or class 1
hiking trail.
"Bill" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:iaqi7110efelc2icm64grajr6bgrq49a65@4ax.com...
> With all due respect to the other posters, I don't see how this driver did
> anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>)
It
> looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ
and
> got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer
case.
> That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's
and XJ's
> abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken
U
> joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
>
> It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like
this. The
> folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
> Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
05-04-2005, 09:34 PM
#67
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Posts: n/a
Re: what trail rated really means
I was actually just about to post a similar message. I hurt my YJ FAR FAR
worse than that a couple of times ...one in particular where I stalled and
slid down about a 50 degree hill and into a rock that practically ate the
underside of my Jeep (especially the exhaust system). Despite all of the
hardships ...especially since I was a rookie offroader ...I never had any
serious breakages like this. I think he took the hill a little fast but I'm
still surprised at the extent of the damage done. The Liberty is "trail"
ready ...whereby trail implies nothing more than a backlane or class 1
hiking trail.
"Bill" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:iaqi7110efelc2icm64grajr6bgrq49a65@4ax.com...
> With all due respect to the other posters, I don't see how this driver did
> anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>)
It
> looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ
and
> got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer
case.
> That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's
and XJ's
> abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken
U
> joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
>
> It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like
this. The
> folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
> Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
worse than that a couple of times ...one in particular where I stalled and
slid down about a 50 degree hill and into a rock that practically ate the
underside of my Jeep (especially the exhaust system). Despite all of the
hardships ...especially since I was a rookie offroader ...I never had any
serious breakages like this. I think he took the hill a little fast but I'm
still surprised at the extent of the damage done. The Liberty is "trail"
ready ...whereby trail implies nothing more than a backlane or class 1
hiking trail.
"Bill" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:iaqi7110efelc2icm64grajr6bgrq49a65@4ax.com...
> With all due respect to the other posters, I don't see how this driver did
> anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>)
It
> looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ
and
> got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer
case.
> That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's
and XJ's
> abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken
U
> joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
>
> It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like
this. The
> folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
> Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
05-04-2005, 09:34 PM
#68
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: what trail rated really means
I was actually just about to post a similar message. I hurt my YJ FAR FAR
worse than that a couple of times ...one in particular where I stalled and
slid down about a 50 degree hill and into a rock that practically ate the
underside of my Jeep (especially the exhaust system). Despite all of the
hardships ...especially since I was a rookie offroader ...I never had any
serious breakages like this. I think he took the hill a little fast but I'm
still surprised at the extent of the damage done. The Liberty is "trail"
ready ...whereby trail implies nothing more than a backlane or class 1
hiking trail.
"Bill" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:iaqi7110efelc2icm64grajr6bgrq49a65@4ax.com...
> With all due respect to the other posters, I don't see how this driver did
> anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>)
It
> looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ
and
> got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer
case.
> That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's
and XJ's
> abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken
U
> joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
>
> It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like
this. The
> folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
> Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
worse than that a couple of times ...one in particular where I stalled and
slid down about a 50 degree hill and into a rock that practically ate the
underside of my Jeep (especially the exhaust system). Despite all of the
hardships ...especially since I was a rookie offroader ...I never had any
serious breakages like this. I think he took the hill a little fast but I'm
still surprised at the extent of the damage done. The Liberty is "trail"
ready ...whereby trail implies nothing more than a backlane or class 1
hiking trail.
"Bill" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:iaqi7110efelc2icm64grajr6bgrq49a65@4ax.com...
> With all due respect to the other posters, I don't see how this driver did
> anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>)
It
> looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ
and
> got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer
case.
> That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's
and XJ's
> abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken
U
> joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
>
> It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like
this. The
> folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
> Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
05-04-2005, 09:34 PM
#69
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: what trail rated really means
I was actually just about to post a similar message. I hurt my YJ FAR FAR
worse than that a couple of times ...one in particular where I stalled and
slid down about a 50 degree hill and into a rock that practically ate the
underside of my Jeep (especially the exhaust system). Despite all of the
hardships ...especially since I was a rookie offroader ...I never had any
serious breakages like this. I think he took the hill a little fast but I'm
still surprised at the extent of the damage done. The Liberty is "trail"
ready ...whereby trail implies nothing more than a backlane or class 1
hiking trail.
"Bill" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:iaqi7110efelc2icm64grajr6bgrq49a65@4ax.com...
> With all due respect to the other posters, I don't see how this driver did
> anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>)
It
> looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ
and
> got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer
case.
> That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's
and XJ's
> abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken
U
> joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
>
> It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like
this. The
> folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
> Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
worse than that a couple of times ...one in particular where I stalled and
slid down about a 50 degree hill and into a rock that practically ate the
underside of my Jeep (especially the exhaust system). Despite all of the
hardships ...especially since I was a rookie offroader ...I never had any
serious breakages like this. I think he took the hill a little fast but I'm
still surprised at the extent of the damage done. The Liberty is "trail"
ready ...whereby trail implies nothing more than a backlane or class 1
hiking trail.
"Bill" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:iaqi7110efelc2icm64grajr6bgrq49a65@4ax.com...
> With all due respect to the other posters, I don't see how this driver did
> anything really wrong. (except for driving for a Liberty off road <lol>)
It
> looks like he took the obstacle a little faster that I might have in my TJ
and
> got some air under his front wheels. Upon landing he toasted the transfer
case.
> That said I've seen some testosterone fueled idiots in TJ's, YJ's, CJ's
and XJ's
> abuse their vehicles a thousand times worse with little more than a broken
U
> joint, if that, to show for their efforts.
>
> It's a really sorry day when a simple hill climb kills a vehicle like
this. The
> folks at Chrysler should hang their heads for ever even implying that the
> Liberty is good for anything more than driving to the mall on a snowy day.
05-04-2005, 11:57 PM
#70
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Re: what trail rated really means
confutious say: An idiot and his money are soon parted...
I'm sure I'll be broke soon....
he just has no four wheelin experience, and was clueless to the limits of
his rig...$$$$$$$$
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I'm sure I'll be broke soon....
he just has no four wheelin experience, and was clueless to the limits of
his rig...$$$$$$$$
--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com