What are the QUIETEST tires for a Cherokee ?
04-14-2006, 03:50 AM
#51
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Re: What are the QUIETEST tires for a Cherokee ?
Goodyear GSA Wrangler's a great snow and mud tyre ?
surely you jest...
Dave Milne, Scotland
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
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> I had Goodyear Wranglers on my Wrangler when it was new. They are a great
> snow and mud tire, but sure they are noisy on pavement.
>
> Earle
surely you jest...
Dave Milne, Scotland
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
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> I had Goodyear Wranglers on my Wrangler when it was new. They are a great
> snow and mud tire, but sure they are noisy on pavement.
>
> Earle
04-14-2006, 03:50 AM
#52
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Re: What are the QUIETEST tires for a Cherokee ?
Goodyear GSA Wrangler's a great snow and mud tyre ?
surely you jest...
Dave Milne, Scotland
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:443e8b45$0$14889$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> I had Goodyear Wranglers on my Wrangler when it was new. They are a great
> snow and mud tire, but sure they are noisy on pavement.
>
> Earle
surely you jest...
Dave Milne, Scotland
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:443e8b45$0$14889$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> I had Goodyear Wranglers on my Wrangler when it was new. They are a great
> snow and mud tire, but sure they are noisy on pavement.
>
> Earle
04-14-2006, 04:44 AM
#53
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Re: What are the QUIETEST tires for a Cherokee ?
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:47:18 -0500, Fred Mau
<fred-dot-mau@comcast.net> wrote:
>I do mostly highway driving with my 2000 XJ 2WD Cherokee. Never off-road.
>For me, it's more of a large station wagon than an SUV.
>
>Given my usage, what are the QUIETEST tires I can put on it ? This thing's
>got enough road noises as it is, I don't want tires that sound like a jet
>engine at 70 MPH.
>
>I've always liked Continental tires for my Volkswagens, but I have no idea
>what their reputation is in the Light Truck / SUV world. Any opinions on
>the Continental ContiTrac ? I've noticed on the web that Ford Explorer
>owners seem to dislike them as the OEM tire, but then the Explorers seemed
>to have had problems with many different tires.
>
>The local tire dealer - Les Schwab - recommended the Toyo Eclipse, but I
>know even less about them.
>
If all you want is quiet then run slicks :-)
Tyre choice is always going to be a compromise. What you gain in low
noise, you lose somewhere else.
There are pure highway SUV tyres such as the Michelin Diamaris, but
they will get you nowhere off road. As well as asking which is the
quietest you might also ask which is best for your typical use. If you
are 100% on highway, then you don't need an off road capability, if
you do off roading in mud you will need a different tyre from the guy
who off roads in rocky desert (not got much of that across here).
You can almost guess the noise level of the tyre bu looking at its
pattern, the blockier it is, the noisier it is. Many modern high
performance road tyres are very grippy on tarmac, but have what they
call a one-tread pattern, where there is only one leading edge to a
single block pattern right around the tyre - they are as close to
slicks as you can get.
If you buy the latest "model" of tyre then whatever you buy, on a like
for like basis there isn't a lot between them. The differential is
large though between old and new models and between mid range and
budget tyres which can use old compunds, old designs and old
technology.
Sorry to bore you, but you need to ask more than just about noise
levels.
Ewan Scott
<fred-dot-mau@comcast.net> wrote:
>I do mostly highway driving with my 2000 XJ 2WD Cherokee. Never off-road.
>For me, it's more of a large station wagon than an SUV.
>
>Given my usage, what are the QUIETEST tires I can put on it ? This thing's
>got enough road noises as it is, I don't want tires that sound like a jet
>engine at 70 MPH.
>
>I've always liked Continental tires for my Volkswagens, but I have no idea
>what their reputation is in the Light Truck / SUV world. Any opinions on
>the Continental ContiTrac ? I've noticed on the web that Ford Explorer
>owners seem to dislike them as the OEM tire, but then the Explorers seemed
>to have had problems with many different tires.
>
>The local tire dealer - Les Schwab - recommended the Toyo Eclipse, but I
>know even less about them.
>
If all you want is quiet then run slicks :-)
Tyre choice is always going to be a compromise. What you gain in low
noise, you lose somewhere else.
There are pure highway SUV tyres such as the Michelin Diamaris, but
they will get you nowhere off road. As well as asking which is the
quietest you might also ask which is best for your typical use. If you
are 100% on highway, then you don't need an off road capability, if
you do off roading in mud you will need a different tyre from the guy
who off roads in rocky desert (not got much of that across here).
You can almost guess the noise level of the tyre bu looking at its
pattern, the blockier it is, the noisier it is. Many modern high
performance road tyres are very grippy on tarmac, but have what they
call a one-tread pattern, where there is only one leading edge to a
single block pattern right around the tyre - they are as close to
slicks as you can get.
If you buy the latest "model" of tyre then whatever you buy, on a like
for like basis there isn't a lot between them. The differential is
large though between old and new models and between mid range and
budget tyres which can use old compunds, old designs and old
technology.
Sorry to bore you, but you need to ask more than just about noise
levels.
Ewan Scott
04-14-2006, 04:44 AM
#54
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Re: What are the QUIETEST tires for a Cherokee ?
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:47:18 -0500, Fred Mau
<fred-dot-mau@comcast.net> wrote:
>I do mostly highway driving with my 2000 XJ 2WD Cherokee. Never off-road.
>For me, it's more of a large station wagon than an SUV.
>
>Given my usage, what are the QUIETEST tires I can put on it ? This thing's
>got enough road noises as it is, I don't want tires that sound like a jet
>engine at 70 MPH.
>
>I've always liked Continental tires for my Volkswagens, but I have no idea
>what their reputation is in the Light Truck / SUV world. Any opinions on
>the Continental ContiTrac ? I've noticed on the web that Ford Explorer
>owners seem to dislike them as the OEM tire, but then the Explorers seemed
>to have had problems with many different tires.
>
>The local tire dealer - Les Schwab - recommended the Toyo Eclipse, but I
>know even less about them.
>
If all you want is quiet then run slicks :-)
Tyre choice is always going to be a compromise. What you gain in low
noise, you lose somewhere else.
There are pure highway SUV tyres such as the Michelin Diamaris, but
they will get you nowhere off road. As well as asking which is the
quietest you might also ask which is best for your typical use. If you
are 100% on highway, then you don't need an off road capability, if
you do off roading in mud you will need a different tyre from the guy
who off roads in rocky desert (not got much of that across here).
You can almost guess the noise level of the tyre bu looking at its
pattern, the blockier it is, the noisier it is. Many modern high
performance road tyres are very grippy on tarmac, but have what they
call a one-tread pattern, where there is only one leading edge to a
single block pattern right around the tyre - they are as close to
slicks as you can get.
If you buy the latest "model" of tyre then whatever you buy, on a like
for like basis there isn't a lot between them. The differential is
large though between old and new models and between mid range and
budget tyres which can use old compunds, old designs and old
technology.
Sorry to bore you, but you need to ask more than just about noise
levels.
Ewan Scott
<fred-dot-mau@comcast.net> wrote:
>I do mostly highway driving with my 2000 XJ 2WD Cherokee. Never off-road.
>For me, it's more of a large station wagon than an SUV.
>
>Given my usage, what are the QUIETEST tires I can put on it ? This thing's
>got enough road noises as it is, I don't want tires that sound like a jet
>engine at 70 MPH.
>
>I've always liked Continental tires for my Volkswagens, but I have no idea
>what their reputation is in the Light Truck / SUV world. Any opinions on
>the Continental ContiTrac ? I've noticed on the web that Ford Explorer
>owners seem to dislike them as the OEM tire, but then the Explorers seemed
>to have had problems with many different tires.
>
>The local tire dealer - Les Schwab - recommended the Toyo Eclipse, but I
>know even less about them.
>
If all you want is quiet then run slicks :-)
Tyre choice is always going to be a compromise. What you gain in low
noise, you lose somewhere else.
There are pure highway SUV tyres such as the Michelin Diamaris, but
they will get you nowhere off road. As well as asking which is the
quietest you might also ask which is best for your typical use. If you
are 100% on highway, then you don't need an off road capability, if
you do off roading in mud you will need a different tyre from the guy
who off roads in rocky desert (not got much of that across here).
You can almost guess the noise level of the tyre bu looking at its
pattern, the blockier it is, the noisier it is. Many modern high
performance road tyres are very grippy on tarmac, but have what they
call a one-tread pattern, where there is only one leading edge to a
single block pattern right around the tyre - they are as close to
slicks as you can get.
If you buy the latest "model" of tyre then whatever you buy, on a like
for like basis there isn't a lot between them. The differential is
large though between old and new models and between mid range and
budget tyres which can use old compunds, old designs and old
technology.
Sorry to bore you, but you need to ask more than just about noise
levels.
Ewan Scott
04-14-2006, 04:44 AM
#55
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Re: What are the QUIETEST tires for a Cherokee ?
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:47:18 -0500, Fred Mau
<fred-dot-mau@comcast.net> wrote:
>I do mostly highway driving with my 2000 XJ 2WD Cherokee. Never off-road.
>For me, it's more of a large station wagon than an SUV.
>
>Given my usage, what are the QUIETEST tires I can put on it ? This thing's
>got enough road noises as it is, I don't want tires that sound like a jet
>engine at 70 MPH.
>
>I've always liked Continental tires for my Volkswagens, but I have no idea
>what their reputation is in the Light Truck / SUV world. Any opinions on
>the Continental ContiTrac ? I've noticed on the web that Ford Explorer
>owners seem to dislike them as the OEM tire, but then the Explorers seemed
>to have had problems with many different tires.
>
>The local tire dealer - Les Schwab - recommended the Toyo Eclipse, but I
>know even less about them.
>
If all you want is quiet then run slicks :-)
Tyre choice is always going to be a compromise. What you gain in low
noise, you lose somewhere else.
There are pure highway SUV tyres such as the Michelin Diamaris, but
they will get you nowhere off road. As well as asking which is the
quietest you might also ask which is best for your typical use. If you
are 100% on highway, then you don't need an off road capability, if
you do off roading in mud you will need a different tyre from the guy
who off roads in rocky desert (not got much of that across here).
You can almost guess the noise level of the tyre bu looking at its
pattern, the blockier it is, the noisier it is. Many modern high
performance road tyres are very grippy on tarmac, but have what they
call a one-tread pattern, where there is only one leading edge to a
single block pattern right around the tyre - they are as close to
slicks as you can get.
If you buy the latest "model" of tyre then whatever you buy, on a like
for like basis there isn't a lot between them. The differential is
large though between old and new models and between mid range and
budget tyres which can use old compunds, old designs and old
technology.
Sorry to bore you, but you need to ask more than just about noise
levels.
Ewan Scott
<fred-dot-mau@comcast.net> wrote:
>I do mostly highway driving with my 2000 XJ 2WD Cherokee. Never off-road.
>For me, it's more of a large station wagon than an SUV.
>
>Given my usage, what are the QUIETEST tires I can put on it ? This thing's
>got enough road noises as it is, I don't want tires that sound like a jet
>engine at 70 MPH.
>
>I've always liked Continental tires for my Volkswagens, but I have no idea
>what their reputation is in the Light Truck / SUV world. Any opinions on
>the Continental ContiTrac ? I've noticed on the web that Ford Explorer
>owners seem to dislike them as the OEM tire, but then the Explorers seemed
>to have had problems with many different tires.
>
>The local tire dealer - Les Schwab - recommended the Toyo Eclipse, but I
>know even less about them.
>
If all you want is quiet then run slicks :-)
Tyre choice is always going to be a compromise. What you gain in low
noise, you lose somewhere else.
There are pure highway SUV tyres such as the Michelin Diamaris, but
they will get you nowhere off road. As well as asking which is the
quietest you might also ask which is best for your typical use. If you
are 100% on highway, then you don't need an off road capability, if
you do off roading in mud you will need a different tyre from the guy
who off roads in rocky desert (not got much of that across here).
You can almost guess the noise level of the tyre bu looking at its
pattern, the blockier it is, the noisier it is. Many modern high
performance road tyres are very grippy on tarmac, but have what they
call a one-tread pattern, where there is only one leading edge to a
single block pattern right around the tyre - they are as close to
slicks as you can get.
If you buy the latest "model" of tyre then whatever you buy, on a like
for like basis there isn't a lot between them. The differential is
large though between old and new models and between mid range and
budget tyres which can use old compunds, old designs and old
technology.
Sorry to bore you, but you need to ask more than just about noise
levels.
Ewan Scott
04-14-2006, 10:45 AM
#56
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Re: What are the QUIETEST tires for a Cherokee ?
The Wranglers I had were probably not GSAs. They were similar to the Cooper
Discoverers I have now. They served admirably through several Washington
and Colorado winters, and had plenty of tread left, when they were retired
due to rock cuts. Although I use the Jeep primarily for getting around in
the mountains, I cannot of course resist the temptation afforded by the
plentiful old mining roads that exist up here.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:BvI%f.53156$wl.26032@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Goodyear GSA Wrangler's a great snow and mud tyre ?
> surely you jest...
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:443e8b45$0$14889$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > I had Goodyear Wranglers on my Wrangler when it was new. They are a
great
> > snow and mud tire, but sure they are noisy on pavement.
> >
> > Earle
>
>
Discoverers I have now. They served admirably through several Washington
and Colorado winters, and had plenty of tread left, when they were retired
due to rock cuts. Although I use the Jeep primarily for getting around in
the mountains, I cannot of course resist the temptation afforded by the
plentiful old mining roads that exist up here.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:BvI%f.53156$wl.26032@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Goodyear GSA Wrangler's a great snow and mud tyre ?
> surely you jest...
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:443e8b45$0$14889$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > I had Goodyear Wranglers on my Wrangler when it was new. They are a
great
> > snow and mud tire, but sure they are noisy on pavement.
> >
> > Earle
>
>
04-14-2006, 10:45 AM
#57
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Re: What are the QUIETEST tires for a Cherokee ?
The Wranglers I had were probably not GSAs. They were similar to the Cooper
Discoverers I have now. They served admirably through several Washington
and Colorado winters, and had plenty of tread left, when they were retired
due to rock cuts. Although I use the Jeep primarily for getting around in
the mountains, I cannot of course resist the temptation afforded by the
plentiful old mining roads that exist up here.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:BvI%f.53156$wl.26032@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Goodyear GSA Wrangler's a great snow and mud tyre ?
> surely you jest...
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:443e8b45$0$14889$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > I had Goodyear Wranglers on my Wrangler when it was new. They are a
great
> > snow and mud tire, but sure they are noisy on pavement.
> >
> > Earle
>
>
Discoverers I have now. They served admirably through several Washington
and Colorado winters, and had plenty of tread left, when they were retired
due to rock cuts. Although I use the Jeep primarily for getting around in
the mountains, I cannot of course resist the temptation afforded by the
plentiful old mining roads that exist up here.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:BvI%f.53156$wl.26032@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Goodyear GSA Wrangler's a great snow and mud tyre ?
> surely you jest...
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:443e8b45$0$14889$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > I had Goodyear Wranglers on my Wrangler when it was new. They are a
great
> > snow and mud tire, but sure they are noisy on pavement.
> >
> > Earle
>
>
04-14-2006, 10:45 AM
#58
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Posts: n/a
Re: What are the QUIETEST tires for a Cherokee ?
The Wranglers I had were probably not GSAs. They were similar to the Cooper
Discoverers I have now. They served admirably through several Washington
and Colorado winters, and had plenty of tread left, when they were retired
due to rock cuts. Although I use the Jeep primarily for getting around in
the mountains, I cannot of course resist the temptation afforded by the
plentiful old mining roads that exist up here.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:BvI%f.53156$wl.26032@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Goodyear GSA Wrangler's a great snow and mud tyre ?
> surely you jest...
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:443e8b45$0$14889$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > I had Goodyear Wranglers on my Wrangler when it was new. They are a
great
> > snow and mud tire, but sure they are noisy on pavement.
> >
> > Earle
>
>
Discoverers I have now. They served admirably through several Washington
and Colorado winters, and had plenty of tread left, when they were retired
due to rock cuts. Although I use the Jeep primarily for getting around in
the mountains, I cannot of course resist the temptation afforded by the
plentiful old mining roads that exist up here.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:BvI%f.53156$wl.26032@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Goodyear GSA Wrangler's a great snow and mud tyre ?
> surely you jest...
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:443e8b45$0$14889$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > I had Goodyear Wranglers on my Wrangler when it was new. They are a
great
> > snow and mud tire, but sure they are noisy on pavement.
> >
> > Earle
>
>
04-15-2006, 01:57 PM
#59
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Re: What are the QUIETEST tires for a Cherokee ?
Possibly a bit pricier, the Michelin All Season that the Ford Exploders
moved to after the underinflaged Firestone fiasco are pretty quiet.
The Michelin M+S is a better match IMNHO, but can sing a bit on roadways
with a bit more pebbled surface. Either variety has wear
characteristics where the rubber will get old or you'll get bored before
the tread wears down significantly.
Fred Mau proclaimed:
> Yes, I see that. They look great until I see the price.... about $175 each.
>
> I'm beginning to think the Toyo Eclipse - at about $75 each - may be quiet
> "enough" for me. All reviews I've seen indicate they're at least better
> than the Goodyear Wranglers that I have now.
>
>
> - FM -
>
> Brandonb <brandon@NOkamikosSPAM.com> wrote in
> news:e1k0g0$rvm$1@news.netins.net:
>
>
>>Tirerack rates the Goodyear Fortera SilentArmor as the quietest.
>>
>>http://www.goodyearfortera.com/goodyearfortera/html/
>>
>>Brandonb
>>
>>
moved to after the underinflaged Firestone fiasco are pretty quiet.
The Michelin M+S is a better match IMNHO, but can sing a bit on roadways
with a bit more pebbled surface. Either variety has wear
characteristics where the rubber will get old or you'll get bored before
the tread wears down significantly.
Fred Mau proclaimed:
> Yes, I see that. They look great until I see the price.... about $175 each.
>
> I'm beginning to think the Toyo Eclipse - at about $75 each - may be quiet
> "enough" for me. All reviews I've seen indicate they're at least better
> than the Goodyear Wranglers that I have now.
>
>
> - FM -
>
> Brandonb <brandon@NOkamikosSPAM.com> wrote in
> news:e1k0g0$rvm$1@news.netins.net:
>
>
>>Tirerack rates the Goodyear Fortera SilentArmor as the quietest.
>>
>>http://www.goodyearfortera.com/goodyearfortera/html/
>>
>>Brandonb
>>
>>
04-15-2006, 01:57 PM
#60
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Posts: n/a
Re: What are the QUIETEST tires for a Cherokee ?
Possibly a bit pricier, the Michelin All Season that the Ford Exploders
moved to after the underinflaged Firestone fiasco are pretty quiet.
The Michelin M+S is a better match IMNHO, but can sing a bit on roadways
with a bit more pebbled surface. Either variety has wear
characteristics where the rubber will get old or you'll get bored before
the tread wears down significantly.
Fred Mau proclaimed:
> Yes, I see that. They look great until I see the price.... about $175 each.
>
> I'm beginning to think the Toyo Eclipse - at about $75 each - may be quiet
> "enough" for me. All reviews I've seen indicate they're at least better
> than the Goodyear Wranglers that I have now.
>
>
> - FM -
>
> Brandonb <brandon@NOkamikosSPAM.com> wrote in
> news:e1k0g0$rvm$1@news.netins.net:
>
>
>>Tirerack rates the Goodyear Fortera SilentArmor as the quietest.
>>
>>http://www.goodyearfortera.com/goodyearfortera/html/
>>
>>Brandonb
>>
>>
moved to after the underinflaged Firestone fiasco are pretty quiet.
The Michelin M+S is a better match IMNHO, but can sing a bit on roadways
with a bit more pebbled surface. Either variety has wear
characteristics where the rubber will get old or you'll get bored before
the tread wears down significantly.
Fred Mau proclaimed:
> Yes, I see that. They look great until I see the price.... about $175 each.
>
> I'm beginning to think the Toyo Eclipse - at about $75 each - may be quiet
> "enough" for me. All reviews I've seen indicate they're at least better
> than the Goodyear Wranglers that I have now.
>
>
> - FM -
>
> Brandonb <brandon@NOkamikosSPAM.com> wrote in
> news:e1k0g0$rvm$1@news.netins.net:
>
>
>>Tirerack rates the Goodyear Fortera SilentArmor as the quietest.
>>
>>http://www.goodyearfortera.com/goodyearfortera/html/
>>
>>Brandonb
>>
>>
