TJim

How about welding the tubes to the housing and adding a gusset?

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
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enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:RtQnb.215079$9l5.51246@pd7tw2no...
> I don't know, wouldn't mind one but bet it would be as much to ship it
as
> buy it.
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:KvFnb.179$Dj1.162@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > Interesting setup. How much does that thing weigh?
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >
> > > I just ordered my one peice axles, I also hear that the tubes on the
> amc
> > > 20 are weak, have you had any problems with twisting the axle, I was
> looking
> > > at a nice axle truss here http://www.mo-offroad.com/Axletrusses.htm do
> you
> > > think it's worth it?
> > > Greg
> > >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > World War II.
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >
>
>

John B. Parisi

I have not had any issues with the 20 tubes. As others have suggested....if
anything happens to mine or the next time I have the rear end out --- I'll
weld 'em.


"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:grFnb.209891$6C4.102948@pd7tw1no...
> I just ordered my one peice axles, I also hear that the tubes on the amc
> 20 are weak, have you had any problems with twisting the axle, I was
looking
> at a nice axle truss here http://www.mo-offroad.com/Axletrusses.htm do you
> think it's worth it?
> Greg
>
> "John B. Parisi" <jbparisiNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Daznb.51699$e01.128635@attbi_s02...
> > Travis,
> > I went through the same process last year - What lockers to get.......
> >
> > I have a 85 CJ7 with a 258, Howell Injection, T18, 4:10s AMC20 rear &
> Dana30
> > front. My Jeep is primarily off road use. It's a third vehicle so I
use
> it
> > around town when I'm in the mood but it's primary purpose is off road.
> >
> > I believe, for a combo on/off road vehicle, the best locker to go with
is
> > ARBs. The work great off road and can be turned off when not in use.
> Down
> > side.....a little pricey and can be temperamental off road - (ie minor
air
> > leaks and they don't work). When they break you are left with open
> > carriers.
> >
> > I decided to go with DetroitLockers in the rear. I have a Trak lock in
> the
> > front that so far is working fine....I would have gone ARBs all the way
> > around but I simply did not put enough on road miles to justify the
> > additional expense. With the Detroit, I was worried about the
aggressive
> > locker on asphalt. We all have Detroit locker stories of clanging &
> banging
> > noises and even more important is the tendency to jump lanes when
> > accelerating or letting off the gas. I will say that with Detroits new
> > locker, the typical issues above have all but disappeared. There is an
> > occasion clang when making tight turns (pulling into a parking spot at a
> > store) but nothing some minor changes in driving habits could not cure.
> The
> > other thing that is typically a down fall for lockers is they do not
work
> > too well in mud or snow. perm posi will have a tendency to pull your
rig
> > side to side in the snow. I don't do much snow driving so it was not an
> > issue with me......The upside to having Detroits is they are
> indestructible.
> > The always work.
> >
> > Oh - BTW - I assume you know the first thing you MUST do before
installing
> a
> > locker ESPECIALLY in the AMC20 is buy yourself good one piece axles.
The
> > 20s axles are one of their weakest points.
> >
> > Hope this helps......
> >
> >
> > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:14vspv83932vl8g76b557v0kg7ptdsk360@4ax.com...
> > > Not that I'm going to get any lockers in the very near future, but I'm
> > > wondering what you guys are running for lockers and what you'd
> > > recommend. I have an AMC20 rear and Dana30 front. I'll be driving
> > > this Jeep on the street as a daily driver and hitting the trails at
> > > least 4-5 times a month to give you an idea of what I'll be doing with
> > > it. Thank you.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > :wq!
> >
> >
>
>

John B. Parisi

I have not had any issues with the 20 tubes. As others have suggested....if
anything happens to mine or the next time I have the rear end out --- I'll
weld 'em.


"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:grFnb.209891$6C4.102948@pd7tw1no...
> I just ordered my one peice axles, I also hear that the tubes on the amc
> 20 are weak, have you had any problems with twisting the axle, I was
looking
> at a nice axle truss here http://www.mo-offroad.com/Axletrusses.htm do you
> think it's worth it?
> Greg
>
> "John B. Parisi" <jbparisiNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Daznb.51699$e01.128635@attbi_s02...
> > Travis,
> > I went through the same process last year - What lockers to get.......
> >
> > I have a 85 CJ7 with a 258, Howell Injection, T18, 4:10s AMC20 rear &
> Dana30
> > front. My Jeep is primarily off road use. It's a third vehicle so I
use
> it
> > around town when I'm in the mood but it's primary purpose is off road.
> >
> > I believe, for a combo on/off road vehicle, the best locker to go with
is
> > ARBs. The work great off road and can be turned off when not in use.
> Down
> > side.....a little pricey and can be temperamental off road - (ie minor
air
> > leaks and they don't work). When they break you are left with open
> > carriers.
> >
> > I decided to go with DetroitLockers in the rear. I have a Trak lock in
> the
> > front that so far is working fine....I would have gone ARBs all the way
> > around but I simply did not put enough on road miles to justify the
> > additional expense. With the Detroit, I was worried about the
aggressive
> > locker on asphalt. We all have Detroit locker stories of clanging &
> banging
> > noises and even more important is the tendency to jump lanes when
> > accelerating or letting off the gas. I will say that with Detroits new
> > locker, the typical issues above have all but disappeared. There is an
> > occasion clang when making tight turns (pulling into a parking spot at a
> > store) but nothing some minor changes in driving habits could not cure.
> The
> > other thing that is typically a down fall for lockers is they do not
work
> > too well in mud or snow. perm posi will have a tendency to pull your
rig
> > side to side in the snow. I don't do much snow driving so it was not an
> > issue with me......The upside to having Detroits is they are
> indestructible.
> > The always work.
> >
> > Oh - BTW - I assume you know the first thing you MUST do before
installing
> a
> > locker ESPECIALLY in the AMC20 is buy yourself good one piece axles.
The
> > 20s axles are one of their weakest points.
> >
> > Hope this helps......
> >
> >
> > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:14vspv83932vl8g76b557v0kg7ptdsk360@4ax.com...
> > > Not that I'm going to get any lockers in the very near future, but I'm
> > > wondering what you guys are running for lockers and what you'd
> > > recommend. I have an AMC20 rear and Dana30 front. I'll be driving
> > > this Jeep on the street as a daily driver and hitting the trails at
> > > least 4-5 times a month to give you an idea of what I'll be doing with
> > > it. Thank you.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > :wq!
> >
> >
>
>

John B. Parisi

I have not had any issues with the 20 tubes. As others have suggested....if
anything happens to mine or the next time I have the rear end out --- I'll
weld 'em.


"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:grFnb.209891$6C4.102948@pd7tw1no...
> I just ordered my one peice axles, I also hear that the tubes on the amc
> 20 are weak, have you had any problems with twisting the axle, I was
looking
> at a nice axle truss here http://www.mo-offroad.com/Axletrusses.htm do you
> think it's worth it?
> Greg
>
> "John B. Parisi" <jbparisiNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Daznb.51699$e01.128635@attbi_s02...
> > Travis,
> > I went through the same process last year - What lockers to get.......
> >
> > I have a 85 CJ7 with a 258, Howell Injection, T18, 4:10s AMC20 rear &
> Dana30
> > front. My Jeep is primarily off road use. It's a third vehicle so I
use
> it
> > around town when I'm in the mood but it's primary purpose is off road.
> >
> > I believe, for a combo on/off road vehicle, the best locker to go with
is
> > ARBs. The work great off road and can be turned off when not in use.
> Down
> > side.....a little pricey and can be temperamental off road - (ie minor
air
> > leaks and they don't work). When they break you are left with open
> > carriers.
> >
> > I decided to go with DetroitLockers in the rear. I have a Trak lock in
> the
> > front that so far is working fine....I would have gone ARBs all the way
> > around but I simply did not put enough on road miles to justify the
> > additional expense. With the Detroit, I was worried about the
aggressive
> > locker on asphalt. We all have Detroit locker stories of clanging &
> banging
> > noises and even more important is the tendency to jump lanes when
> > accelerating or letting off the gas. I will say that with Detroits new
> > locker, the typical issues above have all but disappeared. There is an
> > occasion clang when making tight turns (pulling into a parking spot at a
> > store) but nothing some minor changes in driving habits could not cure.
> The
> > other thing that is typically a down fall for lockers is they do not
work
> > too well in mud or snow. perm posi will have a tendency to pull your
rig
> > side to side in the snow. I don't do much snow driving so it was not an
> > issue with me......The upside to having Detroits is they are
> indestructible.
> > The always work.
> >
> > Oh - BTW - I assume you know the first thing you MUST do before
installing
> a
> > locker ESPECIALLY in the AMC20 is buy yourself good one piece axles.
The
> > 20s axles are one of their weakest points.
> >
> > Hope this helps......
> >
> >
> > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:14vspv83932vl8g76b557v0kg7ptdsk360@4ax.com...
> > > Not that I'm going to get any lockers in the very near future, but I'm
> > > wondering what you guys are running for lockers and what you'd
> > > recommend. I have an AMC20 rear and Dana30 front. I'll be driving
> > > this Jeep on the street as a daily driver and hitting the trails at
> > > least 4-5 times a month to give you an idea of what I'll be doing with
> > > it. Thank you.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > :wq!
> >
> >
>
>

Kevin Sperle

I haven't either and I run 35" tires and a EZ locker and one piece axles. I
am preparing to buy a welder though, so next chance I get I might add a bead
around the tubes and maybe even add a gusset.

An ounce of prevention.......

"John B. Parisi" <jbparisiNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SsRnb.56974$e01.159798@attbi_s02...
> I have not had any issues with the 20 tubes. As others have
suggested....if
> anything happens to mine or the next time I have the rear end out --- I'll
> weld 'em.
>
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:grFnb.209891$6C4.102948@pd7tw1no...
> > I just ordered my one peice axles, I also hear that the tubes on the
amc
> > 20 are weak, have you had any problems with twisting the axle, I was
> looking
> > at a nice axle truss here http://www.mo-offroad.com/Axletrusses.htm do
you
> > think it's worth it?
> > Greg
> >
> > "John B. Parisi" <jbparisiNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:Daznb.51699$e01.128635@attbi_s02...
> > > Travis,
> > > I went through the same process last year - What lockers to get.......
> > >
> > > I have a 85 CJ7 with a 258, Howell Injection, T18, 4:10s AMC20 rear &
> > Dana30
> > > front. My Jeep is primarily off road use. It's a third vehicle so I
> use
> > it
> > > around town when I'm in the mood but it's primary purpose is off road.
> > >
> > > I believe, for a combo on/off road vehicle, the best locker to go with
> is
> > > ARBs. The work great off road and can be turned off when not in use.
> > Down
> > > side.....a little pricey and can be temperamental off road - (ie minor
> air
> > > leaks and they don't work). When they break you are left with open
> > > carriers.
> > >
> > > I decided to go with DetroitLockers in the rear. I have a Trak lock
in
> > the
> > > front that so far is working fine....I would have gone ARBs all the
way
> > > around but I simply did not put enough on road miles to justify the
> > > additional expense. With the Detroit, I was worried about the
> aggressive
> > > locker on asphalt. We all have Detroit locker stories of clanging &
> > banging
> > > noises and even more important is the tendency to jump lanes when
> > > accelerating or letting off the gas. I will say that with Detroits
new
> > > locker, the typical issues above have all but disappeared. There is
an
> > > occasion clang when making tight turns (pulling into a parking spot at
a
> > > store) but nothing some minor changes in driving habits could not
cure.
> > The
> > > other thing that is typically a down fall for lockers is they do not
> work
> > > too well in mud or snow. perm posi will have a tendency to pull your
> rig
> > > side to side in the snow. I don't do much snow driving so it was not
an
> > > issue with me......The upside to having Detroits is they are
> > indestructible.
> > > The always work.
> > >
> > > Oh - BTW - I assume you know the first thing you MUST do before
> installing
> > a
> > > locker ESPECIALLY in the AMC20 is buy yourself good one piece axles.
> The
> > > 20s axles are one of their weakest points.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps......
> > >
> > >
> > > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:14vspv83932vl8g76b557v0kg7ptdsk360@4ax.com...
> > > > Not that I'm going to get any lockers in the very near future, but
I'm
> > > > wondering what you guys are running for lockers and what you'd
> > > > recommend. I have an AMC20 rear and Dana30 front. I'll be driving
> > > > this Jeep on the street as a daily driver and hitting the trails at
> > > > least 4-5 times a month to give you an idea of what I'll be doing
with
> > > > it. Thank you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > > :wq!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Kevin Sperle

I haven't either and I run 35" tires and a EZ locker and one piece axles. I
am preparing to buy a welder though, so next chance I get I might add a bead
around the tubes and maybe even add a gusset.

An ounce of prevention.......

"John B. Parisi" <jbparisiNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SsRnb.56974$e01.159798@attbi_s02...
> I have not had any issues with the 20 tubes. As others have
suggested....if
> anything happens to mine or the next time I have the rear end out --- I'll
> weld 'em.
>
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:grFnb.209891$6C4.102948@pd7tw1no...
> > I just ordered my one peice axles, I also hear that the tubes on the
amc
> > 20 are weak, have you had any problems with twisting the axle, I was
> looking
> > at a nice axle truss here http://www.mo-offroad.com/Axletrusses.htm do
you
> > think it's worth it?
> > Greg
> >
> > "John B. Parisi" <jbparisiNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:Daznb.51699$e01.128635@attbi_s02...
> > > Travis,
> > > I went through the same process last year - What lockers to get.......
> > >
> > > I have a 85 CJ7 with a 258, Howell Injection, T18, 4:10s AMC20 rear &
> > Dana30
> > > front. My Jeep is primarily off road use. It's a third vehicle so I
> use
> > it
> > > around town when I'm in the mood but it's primary purpose is off road.
> > >
> > > I believe, for a combo on/off road vehicle, the best locker to go with
> is
> > > ARBs. The work great off road and can be turned off when not in use.
> > Down
> > > side.....a little pricey and can be temperamental off road - (ie minor
> air
> > > leaks and they don't work). When they break you are left with open
> > > carriers.
> > >
> > > I decided to go with DetroitLockers in the rear. I have a Trak lock
in
> > the
> > > front that so far is working fine....I would have gone ARBs all the
way
> > > around but I simply did not put enough on road miles to justify the
> > > additional expense. With the Detroit, I was worried about the
> aggressive
> > > locker on asphalt. We all have Detroit locker stories of clanging &
> > banging
> > > noises and even more important is the tendency to jump lanes when
> > > accelerating or letting off the gas. I will say that with Detroits
new
> > > locker, the typical issues above have all but disappeared. There is
an
> > > occasion clang when making tight turns (pulling into a parking spot at
a
> > > store) but nothing some minor changes in driving habits could not
cure.
> > The
> > > other thing that is typically a down fall for lockers is they do not
> work
> > > too well in mud or snow. perm posi will have a tendency to pull your
> rig
> > > side to side in the snow. I don't do much snow driving so it was not
an
> > > issue with me......The upside to having Detroits is they are
> > indestructible.
> > > The always work.
> > >
> > > Oh - BTW - I assume you know the first thing you MUST do before
> installing
> > a
> > > locker ESPECIALLY in the AMC20 is buy yourself good one piece axles.
> The
> > > 20s axles are one of their weakest points.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps......
> > >
> > >
> > > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:14vspv83932vl8g76b557v0kg7ptdsk360@4ax.com...
> > > > Not that I'm going to get any lockers in the very near future, but
I'm
> > > > wondering what you guys are running for lockers and what you'd
> > > > recommend. I have an AMC20 rear and Dana30 front. I'll be driving
> > > > this Jeep on the street as a daily driver and hitting the trails at
> > > > least 4-5 times a month to give you an idea of what I'll be doing
with
> > > > it. Thank you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > > :wq!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Kevin Sperle

I haven't either and I run 35" tires and a EZ locker and one piece axles. I
am preparing to buy a welder though, so next chance I get I might add a bead
around the tubes and maybe even add a gusset.

An ounce of prevention.......

"John B. Parisi" <jbparisiNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SsRnb.56974$e01.159798@attbi_s02...
> I have not had any issues with the 20 tubes. As others have
suggested....if
> anything happens to mine or the next time I have the rear end out --- I'll
> weld 'em.
>
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:grFnb.209891$6C4.102948@pd7tw1no...
> > I just ordered my one peice axles, I also hear that the tubes on the
amc
> > 20 are weak, have you had any problems with twisting the axle, I was
> looking
> > at a nice axle truss here http://www.mo-offroad.com/Axletrusses.htm do
you
> > think it's worth it?
> > Greg
> >
> > "John B. Parisi" <jbparisiNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:Daznb.51699$e01.128635@attbi_s02...
> > > Travis,
> > > I went through the same process last year - What lockers to get.......
> > >
> > > I have a 85 CJ7 with a 258, Howell Injection, T18, 4:10s AMC20 rear &
> > Dana30
> > > front. My Jeep is primarily off road use. It's a third vehicle so I
> use
> > it
> > > around town when I'm in the mood but it's primary purpose is off road.
> > >
> > > I believe, for a combo on/off road vehicle, the best locker to go with
> is
> > > ARBs. The work great off road and can be turned off when not in use.
> > Down
> > > side.....a little pricey and can be temperamental off road - (ie minor
> air
> > > leaks and they don't work). When they break you are left with open
> > > carriers.
> > >
> > > I decided to go with DetroitLockers in the rear. I have a Trak lock
in
> > the
> > > front that so far is working fine....I would have gone ARBs all the
way
> > > around but I simply did not put enough on road miles to justify the
> > > additional expense. With the Detroit, I was worried about the
> aggressive
> > > locker on asphalt. We all have Detroit locker stories of clanging &
> > banging
> > > noises and even more important is the tendency to jump lanes when
> > > accelerating or letting off the gas. I will say that with Detroits
new
> > > locker, the typical issues above have all but disappeared. There is
an
> > > occasion clang when making tight turns (pulling into a parking spot at
a
> > > store) but nothing some minor changes in driving habits could not
cure.
> > The
> > > other thing that is typically a down fall for lockers is they do not
> work
> > > too well in mud or snow. perm posi will have a tendency to pull your
> rig
> > > side to side in the snow. I don't do much snow driving so it was not
an
> > > issue with me......The upside to having Detroits is they are
> > indestructible.
> > > The always work.
> > >
> > > Oh - BTW - I assume you know the first thing you MUST do before
> installing
> > a
> > > locker ESPECIALLY in the AMC20 is buy yourself good one piece axles.
> The
> > > 20s axles are one of their weakest points.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps......
> > >
> > >
> > > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:14vspv83932vl8g76b557v0kg7ptdsk360@4ax.com...
> > > > Not that I'm going to get any lockers in the very near future, but
I'm
> > > > wondering what you guys are running for lockers and what you'd
> > > > recommend. I have an AMC20 rear and Dana30 front. I'll be driving
> > > > this Jeep on the street as a daily driver and hitting the trails at
> > > > least 4-5 times a month to give you an idea of what I'll be doing
with
> > > > it. Thank you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > > :wq!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>