Sounds pretty serious to me! :-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jbjeep wrote:
>
> Cool.
>
> I went out with a neighbor in his old CJ on Sunday - nothing serious, more just
> trucking around in the woods talking and laughing - a little light wheeling here and
> there. I swear my face hurts from grinning all day! Damn, but that was fun!!!
> Between him and the large wet dog that kept thinking that my lap was a good place to
> try to sit. <grin> I havent had that good a day in a long long time!
> -jenn

 

Sounds pretty serious to me! :-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jbjeep wrote:
>
> Cool.
>
> I went out with a neighbor in his old CJ on Sunday - nothing serious, more just
> trucking around in the woods talking and laughing - a little light wheeling here and
> there. I swear my face hurts from grinning all day! Damn, but that was fun!!!
> Between him and the large wet dog that kept thinking that my lap was a good place to
> try to sit. <grin> I havent had that good a day in a long long time!
> -jenn

 

Sounds pretty serious to me! :-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jbjeep wrote:
>
> Cool.
>
> I went out with a neighbor in his old CJ on Sunday - nothing serious, more just
> trucking around in the woods talking and laughing - a little light wheeling here and
> there. I swear my face hurts from grinning all day! Damn, but that was fun!!!
> Between him and the large wet dog that kept thinking that my lap was a good place to
> try to sit. <grin> I havent had that good a day in a long long time!
> -jenn

 

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006, "Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
>news:6JR2g.15163$Kn4.2596@bignews2.bellsouth.net. ..
>> Most of the information he has provided since I have been here
>
>exactly. youve only been here a few months and youre jumping on bills back
>like a rabid dog. if youre trying to make a name for yourself, there are
>better ways than by trying to step on bill.
>
>
>> Furthermore, if he doesn't know about a particular vehicle, he just says
>> "That's not a real Jeep" and dismisses it.
>
>heh......thats your newbie coming out. when i first came into this
>newsgroup i announced my shiny new 2000 tj sahara and bill told me that it
>wasnt a "real" jeep. at first i was taken back....maybe offended a
>little.....but i later grew to appreciate bills conviction to jeeping.
>bottom line......right or wrong if it werent for the old school jeep purists
>like bill, i dont think your rubicon would even exist. folks just like bill
>(including bill!) built the jeep legacy that we all enjoy today. todays
>jeepers (er, the offroading ones anyway) continue the legacy that the
>old-schoolers built. you dont maintain a legacy by shitting on the
>founders.
>
>
>> He's certainly not to Jeeps what Bill S. is to Mustangs and big blocks
>> that's for DAMN sure.
>
>i dont think youve the knowledge or experience with jeeping yet to make that
>determination. if you stick with jeeping, sooner or later youll run into a
>problem that bill will be the one to solve for you.
>
>
>> I think that Tom said it well enough:
>> "IMO the bulk of his "knowledge" comes from an admittedly impressive
>> ability to dig up information, but knowing where the book is in the
>> library (and how to read it out loud), does not an expert make."
>
>knowing enough about a subject to know from memory where to go to find it
>and most importantly, THE WILLINGNESS TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO SO IN ORDER TO
>HELP OTHERS is what makes bill a true asset to this newsgroup. besides,
>linking to a page already scripted that reaches the same conclusion he
>reached only makes sense.
>
>
>> So you just put him up on any pedistal you want to Nate, but I'm not gonna
>> do it just so I can be a part of the "Good ol' Boys Club"
>
>heh......i dont have bill on a pedestal kate.....but in the 7 years ive been
>reading this newsgroup ive grown to respect him. there is no club here.
>you have givers, takers, lurkers, and entertainers. bill is both a giver
>and an entertainer. even when i have no interest in a topic i always click
>on his messages because one of two things will happen when i do.....ill
>either learn something new or ill laugh at his comments. i am not
>threatened by his experience, i recognize/respect it and i try to learn from
>it.

Please remove your tongue from Billyboi's ***, the goats are waiting.
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is unverified.

 

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006, "Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
>news:6JR2g.15163$Kn4.2596@bignews2.bellsouth.net. ..
>> Most of the information he has provided since I have been here
>
>exactly. youve only been here a few months and youre jumping on bills back
>like a rabid dog. if youre trying to make a name for yourself, there are
>better ways than by trying to step on bill.
>
>
>> Furthermore, if he doesn't know about a particular vehicle, he just says
>> "That's not a real Jeep" and dismisses it.
>
>heh......thats your newbie coming out. when i first came into this
>newsgroup i announced my shiny new 2000 tj sahara and bill told me that it
>wasnt a "real" jeep. at first i was taken back....maybe offended a
>little.....but i later grew to appreciate bills conviction to jeeping.
>bottom line......right or wrong if it werent for the old school jeep purists
>like bill, i dont think your rubicon would even exist. folks just like bill
>(including bill!) built the jeep legacy that we all enjoy today. todays
>jeepers (er, the offroading ones anyway) continue the legacy that the
>old-schoolers built. you dont maintain a legacy by shitting on the
>founders.
>
>
>> He's certainly not to Jeeps what Bill S. is to Mustangs and big blocks
>> that's for DAMN sure.
>
>i dont think youve the knowledge or experience with jeeping yet to make that
>determination. if you stick with jeeping, sooner or later youll run into a
>problem that bill will be the one to solve for you.
>
>
>> I think that Tom said it well enough:
>> "IMO the bulk of his "knowledge" comes from an admittedly impressive
>> ability to dig up information, but knowing where the book is in the
>> library (and how to read it out loud), does not an expert make."
>
>knowing enough about a subject to know from memory where to go to find it
>and most importantly, THE WILLINGNESS TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO SO IN ORDER TO
>HELP OTHERS is what makes bill a true asset to this newsgroup. besides,
>linking to a page already scripted that reaches the same conclusion he
>reached only makes sense.
>
>
>> So you just put him up on any pedistal you want to Nate, but I'm not gonna
>> do it just so I can be a part of the "Good ol' Boys Club"
>
>heh......i dont have bill on a pedestal kate.....but in the 7 years ive been
>reading this newsgroup ive grown to respect him. there is no club here.
>you have givers, takers, lurkers, and entertainers. bill is both a giver
>and an entertainer. even when i have no interest in a topic i always click
>on his messages because one of two things will happen when i do.....ill
>either learn something new or ill laugh at his comments. i am not
>threatened by his experience, i recognize/respect it and i try to learn from
>it.

Please remove your tongue from Billyboi's ***, the goats are waiting.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified.

 

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006, "Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
>news:6JR2g.15163$Kn4.2596@bignews2.bellsouth.net. ..
>> Most of the information he has provided since I have been here
>
>exactly. youve only been here a few months and youre jumping on bills back
>like a rabid dog. if youre trying to make a name for yourself, there are
>better ways than by trying to step on bill.
>
>
>> Furthermore, if he doesn't know about a particular vehicle, he just says
>> "That's not a real Jeep" and dismisses it.
>
>heh......thats your newbie coming out. when i first came into this
>newsgroup i announced my shiny new 2000 tj sahara and bill told me that it
>wasnt a "real" jeep. at first i was taken back....maybe offended a
>little.....but i later grew to appreciate bills conviction to jeeping.
>bottom line......right or wrong if it werent for the old school jeep purists
>like bill, i dont think your rubicon would even exist. folks just like bill
>(including bill!) built the jeep legacy that we all enjoy today. todays
>jeepers (er, the offroading ones anyway) continue the legacy that the
>old-schoolers built. you dont maintain a legacy by shitting on the
>founders.
>
>
>> He's certainly not to Jeeps what Bill S. is to Mustangs and big blocks
>> that's for DAMN sure.
>
>i dont think youve the knowledge or experience with jeeping yet to make that
>determination. if you stick with jeeping, sooner or later youll run into a
>problem that bill will be the one to solve for you.
>
>
>> I think that Tom said it well enough:
>> "IMO the bulk of his "knowledge" comes from an admittedly impressive
>> ability to dig up information, but knowing where the book is in the
>> library (and how to read it out loud), does not an expert make."
>
>knowing enough about a subject to know from memory where to go to find it
>and most importantly, THE WILLINGNESS TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO SO IN ORDER TO
>HELP OTHERS is what makes bill a true asset to this newsgroup. besides,
>linking to a page already scripted that reaches the same conclusion he
>reached only makes sense.
>
>
>> So you just put him up on any pedistal you want to Nate, but I'm not gonna
>> do it just so I can be a part of the "Good ol' Boys Club"
>
>heh......i dont have bill on a pedestal kate.....but in the 7 years ive been
>reading this newsgroup ive grown to respect him. there is no club here.
>you have givers, takers, lurkers, and entertainers. bill is both a giver
>and an entertainer. even when i have no interest in a topic i always click
>on his messages because one of two things will happen when i do.....ill
>either learn something new or ill laugh at his comments. i am not
>threatened by his experience, i recognize/respect it and i try to learn from
>it.

Please remove your tongue from Billyboi's ***, the goats are waiting.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified.

 

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:12:37 -0400, The Lord of Eltingville
<tthomas@[REMOVE_TO_REPLY]ogre.net> wrote:

>Kate wrote:
>>
>> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote
>>
>> :
>> : Bill is admittedly controversial. But there is more admiration than
>> : scorn; he has much knowledge that he is always willing to share, and he
>> : has experience that few understand. And I admire his restraint. It
>> : has been said that the greatest quality a leader can demonstrate is the
>> : ability to ignore hatred. This is here for all to see.
>>
>> I'm not fesharing your opinion here JD.
>> People can lose admiration and respect for someone, no matter what their
>> knowledge base is, if they consistantly go out and bring trouble home with
>> them. A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other sources easily
>> enough without all of the hooey that is going along with it lately.
>>
>> In this case, Bill made some waves in another group, or groups and then
>> rather than quash it, he encouraged it to escalate and now it has landed
>> here because he is so hammerheaded he will not let it go.
>>
>> I say he needs to stop it.
>> I don't admire him for this sort of thing.
>>
>> The folks in here giving him ego strokes for his actions are not helping
>> much either. I think Bill ---- in his own mess kit.
>>
>> : I don't mind trolls being miserable by themself. But if they insist on
>> : ------ing their anger publically, it is wise to follow Bill's example.
>>
>> They wouldn't have been angry if Bill would have stopped poking through the
>> bars with a stick.
>
>The only thing I'd disagree with about what Kate said was that Bill's
>tormentors are angry. They're not. They're having fun, and they're
>having it at his expense (and at the expense of anyone else who takes it
>marginally seriously).
>
>To break it down:
>
> * Bill's the one spending time and effort sifting through headers and
> trying to track down the posts' origins.
>
> * Bill's the one spending time and effort to report his findings to
> providers who may/may not care about what's happening -- if they're
> even the appropriate providers in the first place.
>
> * Bill's the one spending time and effort to respond to each post.
>
>And ultimately:
>
> * Bill's naive enough to think that all his time and effort is going
> to make a bit of difference because as quickly as he might be
> able to get an account nuked, new ones are created.

Any provider dumb enough to nuke someone over just words (and not spam
like Billy's doing in another group) deserves to lose customers.
Those customers will, as you say, simply get another account and go
loooking for billy.
>
> * Bill keeps encouraging them to continue by obediently fetching every
> stick that's thrown.

Yep.
>
>Unless Bill (and anyone else who's getting upset by what he brought
>here) learns to simply ignore posts that offend/don't interest him/them,
>it's going to continue...and probably escalate. Like it or not, there's
>~25 years of usenet history to back that up.

You're 100% correct. There's also 25 years of usenet history pointing
to the simple fact that Billy simply can't resist fetching the stick.


--
Just your average Joe.

 

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:12:37 -0400, The Lord of Eltingville
<tthomas@[REMOVE_TO_REPLY]ogre.net> wrote:

>Kate wrote:
>>
>> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote
>>
>> :
>> : Bill is admittedly controversial. But there is more admiration than
>> : scorn; he has much knowledge that he is always willing to share, and he
>> : has experience that few understand. And I admire his restraint. It
>> : has been said that the greatest quality a leader can demonstrate is the
>> : ability to ignore hatred. This is here for all to see.
>>
>> I'm not fesharing your opinion here JD.
>> People can lose admiration and respect for someone, no matter what their
>> knowledge base is, if they consistantly go out and bring trouble home with
>> them. A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other sources easily
>> enough without all of the hooey that is going along with it lately.
>>
>> In this case, Bill made some waves in another group, or groups and then
>> rather than quash it, he encouraged it to escalate and now it has landed
>> here because he is so hammerheaded he will not let it go.
>>
>> I say he needs to stop it.
>> I don't admire him for this sort of thing.
>>
>> The folks in here giving him ego strokes for his actions are not helping
>> much either. I think Bill ---- in his own mess kit.
>>
>> : I don't mind trolls being miserable by themself. But if they insist on
>> : ------ing their anger publically, it is wise to follow Bill's example.
>>
>> They wouldn't have been angry if Bill would have stopped poking through the
>> bars with a stick.
>
>The only thing I'd disagree with about what Kate said was that Bill's
>tormentors are angry. They're not. They're having fun, and they're
>having it at his expense (and at the expense of anyone else who takes it
>marginally seriously).
>
>To break it down:
>
> * Bill's the one spending time and effort sifting through headers and
> trying to track down the posts' origins.
>
> * Bill's the one spending time and effort to report his findings to
> providers who may/may not care about what's happening -- if they're
> even the appropriate providers in the first place.
>
> * Bill's the one spending time and effort to respond to each post.
>
>And ultimately:
>
> * Bill's naive enough to think that all his time and effort is going
> to make a bit of difference because as quickly as he might be
> able to get an account nuked, new ones are created.

Any provider dumb enough to nuke someone over just words (and not spam
like Billy's doing in another group) deserves to lose customers.
Those customers will, as you say, simply get another account and go
loooking for billy.
>
> * Bill keeps encouraging them to continue by obediently fetching every
> stick that's thrown.

Yep.
>
>Unless Bill (and anyone else who's getting upset by what he brought
>here) learns to simply ignore posts that offend/don't interest him/them,
>it's going to continue...and probably escalate. Like it or not, there's
>~25 years of usenet history to back that up.

You're 100% correct. There's also 25 years of usenet history pointing
to the simple fact that Billy simply can't resist fetching the stick.


--
Just your average Joe.

 

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:12:37 -0400, The Lord of Eltingville
<tthomas@[REMOVE_TO_REPLY]ogre.net> wrote:

>Kate wrote:
>>
>> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote
>>
>> :
>> : Bill is admittedly controversial. But there is more admiration than
>> : scorn; he has much knowledge that he is always willing to share, and he
>> : has experience that few understand. And I admire his restraint. It
>> : has been said that the greatest quality a leader can demonstrate is the
>> : ability to ignore hatred. This is here for all to see.
>>
>> I'm not fesharing your opinion here JD.
>> People can lose admiration and respect for someone, no matter what their
>> knowledge base is, if they consistantly go out and bring trouble home with
>> them. A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other sources easily
>> enough without all of the hooey that is going along with it lately.
>>
>> In this case, Bill made some waves in another group, or groups and then
>> rather than quash it, he encouraged it to escalate and now it has landed
>> here because he is so hammerheaded he will not let it go.
>>
>> I say he needs to stop it.
>> I don't admire him for this sort of thing.
>>
>> The folks in here giving him ego strokes for his actions are not helping
>> much either. I think Bill ---- in his own mess kit.
>>
>> : I don't mind trolls being miserable by themself. But if they insist on
>> : ------ing their anger publically, it is wise to follow Bill's example.
>>
>> They wouldn't have been angry if Bill would have stopped poking through the
>> bars with a stick.
>
>The only thing I'd disagree with about what Kate said was that Bill's
>tormentors are angry. They're not. They're having fun, and they're
>having it at his expense (and at the expense of anyone else who takes it
>marginally seriously).
>
>To break it down:
>
> * Bill's the one spending time and effort sifting through headers and
> trying to track down the posts' origins.
>
> * Bill's the one spending time and effort to report his findings to
> providers who may/may not care about what's happening -- if they're
> even the appropriate providers in the first place.
>
> * Bill's the one spending time and effort to respond to each post.
>
>And ultimately:
>
> * Bill's naive enough to think that all his time and effort is going
> to make a bit of difference because as quickly as he might be
> able to get an account nuked, new ones are created.

Any provider dumb enough to nuke someone over just words (and not spam
like Billy's doing in another group) deserves to lose customers.
Those customers will, as you say, simply get another account and go
loooking for billy.
>
> * Bill keeps encouraging them to continue by obediently fetching every
> stick that's thrown.

Yep.
>
>Unless Bill (and anyone else who's getting upset by what he brought
>here) learns to simply ignore posts that offend/don't interest him/them,
>it's going to continue...and probably escalate. Like it or not, there's
>~25 years of usenet history to back that up.

You're 100% correct. There's also 25 years of usenet history pointing
to the simple fact that Billy simply can't resist fetching the stick.


--
Just your average Joe.

 

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 17:36:44 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:

>Hi Ted,
> You've got it, I don't have a life, so this is just plain fun, it's
>a game to see how many user names and actual Internet Service Provider
>accounts I can have closed, of course I don't go after them until I get
>a real charter violation,

You're lying, Billy.

>like crossposting, language

Crossposting isn't a violation in an alt.group, billy. Language isn't
one either.

> or advertising.

You advertise in every post you make. In fact, you spam too. If your
"friends" in ramjw pop in to alt.binaries.pictures.drag-racing, for
example, they'll see the hundred or so spam posts you've made.


>And never do I get mad,

Liar.

>but will get even if possible.

No, you won't. You'll get kook awards. Eventually, *** will get
tired of your antics and find that it's just not worth the few bucks
you spend to keep you. You'll then claim that you meant to lose that
account and go somewhere more expensive for connectivity. That's
what kooks like you do.

> So, those that
>don't want to watch, simple filter my address out.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>The Lord of Eltingville wrote:
>>
>>
>> The only thing I'd disagree with about what Kate said was that Bill's
>> tormentors are angry. They're not. They're having fun, and they're
>> having it at his expense (and at the expense of anyone else who takes it
>> marginally seriously).
>>
>> To break it down:
>>
>> * Bill's the one spending time and effort sifting through headers and
>> trying to track down the posts' origins.
>>
>> * Bill's the one spending time and effort to report his findings to
>> providers who may/may not care about what's happening -- if they're
>> even the appropriate providers in the first place.
>>
>> * Bill's the one spending time and effort to respond to each post.
>>
>> And ultimately:
>>
>> * Bill's naive enough to think that all his time and effort is going
>> to make a bit of difference because as quickly as he might be
>> able to get an account nuked, new ones are created.
>>
>> * Bill keeps encouraging them to continue by obediently fetching every
>> stick that's thrown.
>>
>> Unless Bill (and anyone else who's getting upset by what he brought
>> here) learns to simply ignore posts that offend/don't interest him/them,
>> it's going to continue...and probably escalate. Like it or not, there's
>> ~25 years of usenet history to back that up.
>>
>> ~Ted (returning to lurker mode)
>>
>> --
>> .

--
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