Earle Horton

"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:7fnjo2h85oi5jvamgjddrtil4hdg0q618f@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:07:32 -0500, "billy ray"
> <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
....
> >If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and
> >watch as the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and
> >film everything he does and get close-ups of the labels on all the
> >containers they use....
>
> There probably isn't one he could see-they probably buy it in bulk, in
> barrels, and pump it in through a tube.
>
This is true even if they use the good stuff.

Earle

djdave

I worked at jiffy lube in a Northeastern PA city a long time ago
(1988) and can say honestly "NONE" of that went on way back then. Also
the same franchise here is run by the same family since then. I am
hoping the url is just LA.

On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:28:06 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>This is how the Quickie Lubes do business. Unfortunately this behavior is
>not the exception, it is the norm.....
>
>http://www.nbc4.tv/mechanicinvestiga...04/detail.html
>
>I understand you may not want to do some maintenance work yourself. Find
>yourself an honest mechanic in your neighborhood and have him do it...
>
>"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:1166591391.592653.278300@80g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
>> Wow thats good news!
>> billy ray wrote:
>>> I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to
>>> quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't
>>> derived
>>> from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made
>>> gear
>>> lube and do it correctly yourself.
>>>
>>> In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do
>>> that
>>> you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look
>>> inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and
>>> refill
>>> through the fill hole.
>>>
>>> All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV.
>>>
>>> If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as
>>> the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he
>>> does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
>>> > As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
>>> > don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>>> >
>>> > Greg
>>> > jerryg wrote:
>>> >> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks guys,
>>> >>
>>> >> Greg
>>> >> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> >> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
>>> >> > there.
>>> >> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending
>>> >> > on
>>> >> > what
>>> >> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the
>>> >> > local
>>> >> > quick
>>> >> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
>>> >> >
>>> >> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of
>>> >> > thing
>>> >> > hardly ever happens when you do.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Earle
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> >> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@***.net...
>>> >> > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
>>> >> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> >> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > jerryg wrote:
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up
>>> >> > > > the
>>> >> > > > vent
>>> >> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
>>> >> > > > housing
>>> >> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end?
>>> >> > > > pressure?
>>> >> > > > heat?
>>> >> > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Greg
>>> >
>>
>

djdave

I worked at jiffy lube in a Northeastern PA city a long time ago
(1988) and can say honestly "NONE" of that went on way back then. Also
the same franchise here is run by the same family since then. I am
hoping the url is just LA.

On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:28:06 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>This is how the Quickie Lubes do business. Unfortunately this behavior is
>not the exception, it is the norm.....
>
>http://www.nbc4.tv/mechanicinvestiga...04/detail.html
>
>I understand you may not want to do some maintenance work yourself. Find
>yourself an honest mechanic in your neighborhood and have him do it...
>
>"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:1166591391.592653.278300@80g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
>> Wow thats good news!
>> billy ray wrote:
>>> I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to
>>> quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't
>>> derived
>>> from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made
>>> gear
>>> lube and do it correctly yourself.
>>>
>>> In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do
>>> that
>>> you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look
>>> inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and
>>> refill
>>> through the fill hole.
>>>
>>> All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV.
>>>
>>> If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as
>>> the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he
>>> does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
>>> > As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
>>> > don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>>> >
>>> > Greg
>>> > jerryg wrote:
>>> >> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks guys,
>>> >>
>>> >> Greg
>>> >> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> >> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
>>> >> > there.
>>> >> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending
>>> >> > on
>>> >> > what
>>> >> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the
>>> >> > local
>>> >> > quick
>>> >> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
>>> >> >
>>> >> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of
>>> >> > thing
>>> >> > hardly ever happens when you do.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Earle
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> >> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@***.net...
>>> >> > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
>>> >> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> >> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > jerryg wrote:
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up
>>> >> > > > the
>>> >> > > > vent
>>> >> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
>>> >> > > > housing
>>> >> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end?
>>> >> > > > pressure?
>>> >> > > > heat?
>>> >> > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Greg
>>> >
>>
>

djdave

I worked at jiffy lube in a Northeastern PA city a long time ago
(1988) and can say honestly "NONE" of that went on way back then. Also
the same franchise here is run by the same family since then. I am
hoping the url is just LA.

On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:28:06 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>This is how the Quickie Lubes do business. Unfortunately this behavior is
>not the exception, it is the norm.....
>
>http://www.nbc4.tv/mechanicinvestiga...04/detail.html
>
>I understand you may not want to do some maintenance work yourself. Find
>yourself an honest mechanic in your neighborhood and have him do it...
>
>"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:1166591391.592653.278300@80g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
>> Wow thats good news!
>> billy ray wrote:
>>> I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to
>>> quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't
>>> derived
>>> from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made
>>> gear
>>> lube and do it correctly yourself.
>>>
>>> In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do
>>> that
>>> you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look
>>> inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and
>>> refill
>>> through the fill hole.
>>>
>>> All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV.
>>>
>>> If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as
>>> the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he
>>> does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
>>> > As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
>>> > don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>>> >
>>> > Greg
>>> > jerryg wrote:
>>> >> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks guys,
>>> >>
>>> >> Greg
>>> >> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> >> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
>>> >> > there.
>>> >> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending
>>> >> > on
>>> >> > what
>>> >> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the
>>> >> > local
>>> >> > quick
>>> >> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
>>> >> >
>>> >> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of
>>> >> > thing
>>> >> > hardly ever happens when you do.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Earle
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> >> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@***.net...
>>> >> > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
>>> >> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> >> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > jerryg wrote:
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up
>>> >> > > > the
>>> >> > > > vent
>>> >> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
>>> >> > > > housing
>>> >> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end?
>>> >> > > > pressure?
>>> >> > > > heat?
>>> >> > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Greg
>>> >
>>
>

Mike Romain

We have a local Canadian Tire 'fast' lube change place where the pit has
a glass wall and the waiting room is at this wall. You can watch
everything.

They offer two services for the diffs. One is a pump and dump for
$25.00 I think and the other is the cover removal and clean and fill for
$40.00 all including gear oil.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Outatime wrote:
>
> jerryg wrote:
>
> > I watched them take it apart, clean it and put the proper oil in it.
> > They did use valvoline oil both times. I wont be going back
>
> Oh, they actually popped the cover and cleaned everything up first?
> Good deal. I doubt they do this unless you're watching AND complain
> when they do a typical pump-n-dump.
>
> True story: my late Father-in-law watched a Skippy Lube outfit change
> the oil filter then add one quart of oil to top off. THAT is what they
> consider an "Oil Change" around here. I've seen worse. Much worse.
> You'd do well to avoid them altogether.

Mike Romain

We have a local Canadian Tire 'fast' lube change place where the pit has
a glass wall and the waiting room is at this wall. You can watch
everything.

They offer two services for the diffs. One is a pump and dump for
$25.00 I think and the other is the cover removal and clean and fill for
$40.00 all including gear oil.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Outatime wrote:
>
> jerryg wrote:
>
> > I watched them take it apart, clean it and put the proper oil in it.
> > They did use valvoline oil both times. I wont be going back
>
> Oh, they actually popped the cover and cleaned everything up first?
> Good deal. I doubt they do this unless you're watching AND complain
> when they do a typical pump-n-dump.
>
> True story: my late Father-in-law watched a Skippy Lube outfit change
> the oil filter then add one quart of oil to top off. THAT is what they
> consider an "Oil Change" around here. I've seen worse. Much worse.
> You'd do well to avoid them altogether.

Mike Romain

We have a local Canadian Tire 'fast' lube change place where the pit has
a glass wall and the waiting room is at this wall. You can watch
everything.

They offer two services for the diffs. One is a pump and dump for
$25.00 I think and the other is the cover removal and clean and fill for
$40.00 all including gear oil.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Outatime wrote:
>
> jerryg wrote:
>
> > I watched them take it apart, clean it and put the proper oil in it.
> > They did use valvoline oil both times. I wont be going back
>
> Oh, they actually popped the cover and cleaned everything up first?
> Good deal. I doubt they do this unless you're watching AND complain
> when they do a typical pump-n-dump.
>
> True story: my late Father-in-law watched a Skippy Lube outfit change
> the oil filter then add one quart of oil to top off. THAT is what they
> consider an "Oil Change" around here. I've seen worse. Much worse.
> You'd do well to avoid them altogether.