Way to disable passenger airbay in '97 TJ?
Guest
Posts: n/a
I think it was limited by market as well. Disable switch has never been an
option in New Zealand.
TW
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>> option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
option in New Zealand.
TW
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>> option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
I think it was limited by market as well. Disable switch has never been an
option in New Zealand.
TW
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>> option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
option in New Zealand.
TW
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>> option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
The Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Switch is standard on all TJs made from the
'98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
The deal is, kids fare better in the back seat when the car is in a
collision, and they fare better in the front seat if there is no airbag
present. The best place is the back seat, the next best place is the front
seat with no airbag, and the worst place is the front seat WITH an airbag.
The TJ can have the rear seat removed, indeed the most basic of base models
has no back seat at all -- you won't find many of these -- but since the
owner can take the seat out and still need to haul a kid, then somebody
figured out that it makes sense that the airbag should be able to be turned
off. This feature is standard after the '97 model year, and there were no
airbags in the '95 and earlier models, and there was no '96 model year. ONLY
the '97 can have the need for the Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Kit, and to
get the kit installed the owner must sign a waiver available from the
National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration.
PS
I suppose there might be a few early production '98s that might be able to
use this kit, but my knowledge is that all '98s have the bypass switch
istalled from the factory.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>> option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
'98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
The deal is, kids fare better in the back seat when the car is in a
collision, and they fare better in the front seat if there is no airbag
present. The best place is the back seat, the next best place is the front
seat with no airbag, and the worst place is the front seat WITH an airbag.
The TJ can have the rear seat removed, indeed the most basic of base models
has no back seat at all -- you won't find many of these -- but since the
owner can take the seat out and still need to haul a kid, then somebody
figured out that it makes sense that the airbag should be able to be turned
off. This feature is standard after the '97 model year, and there were no
airbags in the '95 and earlier models, and there was no '96 model year. ONLY
the '97 can have the need for the Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Kit, and to
get the kit installed the owner must sign a waiver available from the
National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration.
PS
I suppose there might be a few early production '98s that might be able to
use this kit, but my knowledge is that all '98s have the bypass switch
istalled from the factory.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>> option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
The Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Switch is standard on all TJs made from the
'98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
The deal is, kids fare better in the back seat when the car is in a
collision, and they fare better in the front seat if there is no airbag
present. The best place is the back seat, the next best place is the front
seat with no airbag, and the worst place is the front seat WITH an airbag.
The TJ can have the rear seat removed, indeed the most basic of base models
has no back seat at all -- you won't find many of these -- but since the
owner can take the seat out and still need to haul a kid, then somebody
figured out that it makes sense that the airbag should be able to be turned
off. This feature is standard after the '97 model year, and there were no
airbags in the '95 and earlier models, and there was no '96 model year. ONLY
the '97 can have the need for the Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Kit, and to
get the kit installed the owner must sign a waiver available from the
National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration.
PS
I suppose there might be a few early production '98s that might be able to
use this kit, but my knowledge is that all '98s have the bypass switch
istalled from the factory.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>> option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
'98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
The deal is, kids fare better in the back seat when the car is in a
collision, and they fare better in the front seat if there is no airbag
present. The best place is the back seat, the next best place is the front
seat with no airbag, and the worst place is the front seat WITH an airbag.
The TJ can have the rear seat removed, indeed the most basic of base models
has no back seat at all -- you won't find many of these -- but since the
owner can take the seat out and still need to haul a kid, then somebody
figured out that it makes sense that the airbag should be able to be turned
off. This feature is standard after the '97 model year, and there were no
airbags in the '95 and earlier models, and there was no '96 model year. ONLY
the '97 can have the need for the Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Kit, and to
get the kit installed the owner must sign a waiver available from the
National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration.
PS
I suppose there might be a few early production '98s that might be able to
use this kit, but my knowledge is that all '98s have the bypass switch
istalled from the factory.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>> option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
The Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Switch is standard on all TJs made from the
'98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
The deal is, kids fare better in the back seat when the car is in a
collision, and they fare better in the front seat if there is no airbag
present. The best place is the back seat, the next best place is the front
seat with no airbag, and the worst place is the front seat WITH an airbag.
The TJ can have the rear seat removed, indeed the most basic of base models
has no back seat at all -- you won't find many of these -- but since the
owner can take the seat out and still need to haul a kid, then somebody
figured out that it makes sense that the airbag should be able to be turned
off. This feature is standard after the '97 model year, and there were no
airbags in the '95 and earlier models, and there was no '96 model year. ONLY
the '97 can have the need for the Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Kit, and to
get the kit installed the owner must sign a waiver available from the
National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration.
PS
I suppose there might be a few early production '98s that might be able to
use this kit, but my knowledge is that all '98s have the bypass switch
istalled from the factory.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>> option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
'98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
The deal is, kids fare better in the back seat when the car is in a
collision, and they fare better in the front seat if there is no airbag
present. The best place is the back seat, the next best place is the front
seat with no airbag, and the worst place is the front seat WITH an airbag.
The TJ can have the rear seat removed, indeed the most basic of base models
has no back seat at all -- you won't find many of these -- but since the
owner can take the seat out and still need to haul a kid, then somebody
figured out that it makes sense that the airbag should be able to be turned
off. This feature is standard after the '97 model year, and there were no
airbags in the '95 and earlier models, and there was no '96 model year. ONLY
the '97 can have the need for the Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Kit, and to
get the kit installed the owner must sign a waiver available from the
National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration.
PS
I suppose there might be a few early production '98s that might be able to
use this kit, but my knowledge is that all '98s have the bypass switch
istalled from the factory.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>> option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
My '02 had a bypass switch standard from the factory. My '06 does not.
Tom
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vIqdnUFGRPcWOuLeRVn-sQ@ez2.net...
> The Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Switch is standard on all TJs made from
the
> '98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
> people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
>
Tom
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vIqdnUFGRPcWOuLeRVn-sQ@ez2.net...
> The Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Switch is standard on all TJs made from
the
> '98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
> people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
My '02 had a bypass switch standard from the factory. My '06 does not.
Tom
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vIqdnUFGRPcWOuLeRVn-sQ@ez2.net...
> The Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Switch is standard on all TJs made from
the
> '98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
> people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
>
Tom
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vIqdnUFGRPcWOuLeRVn-sQ@ez2.net...
> The Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Switch is standard on all TJs made from
the
> '98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
> people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
My '02 had a bypass switch standard from the factory. My '06 does not.
Tom
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vIqdnUFGRPcWOuLeRVn-sQ@ez2.net...
> The Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Switch is standard on all TJs made from
the
> '98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
> people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
>
Tom
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vIqdnUFGRPcWOuLeRVn-sQ@ez2.net...
> The Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Switch is standard on all TJs made from
the
> '98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
> people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
With back seat, you get no switch.
No back seat, you get a switch.
IIRC
In message <vIqdnUFGRPcWOuLeRVn-sQ@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland" wrote:
>The Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Switch is standard on all TJs made from the
>'98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
>people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
>
>The deal is, kids fare better in the back seat when the car is in a
>collision, and they fare better in the front seat if there is no airbag
>present. The best place is the back seat, the next best place is the front
>seat with no airbag, and the worst place is the front seat WITH an airbag.
>
>The TJ can have the rear seat removed, indeed the most basic of base models
>has no back seat at all -- you won't find many of these -- but since the
>owner can take the seat out and still need to haul a kid, then somebody
>figured out that it makes sense that the airbag should be able to be turned
>off. This feature is standard after the '97 model year, and there were no
>airbags in the '95 and earlier models, and there was no '96 model year. ONLY
>the '97 can have the need for the Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Kit, and to
>get the kit installed the owner must sign a waiver available from the
>National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration.
>
>PS
>I suppose there might be a few early production '98s that might be able to
>use this kit, but my knowledge is that all '98s have the bypass switch
>istalled from the factory.
>
>
>
>
>
>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com ...
>> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
>> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>>> option.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>>
>>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>>
>>>> TW
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>>
>>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>>> you can as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
No back seat, you get a switch.
IIRC
In message <vIqdnUFGRPcWOuLeRVn-sQ@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland" wrote:
>The Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Switch is standard on all TJs made from the
>'98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
>people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
>
>The deal is, kids fare better in the back seat when the car is in a
>collision, and they fare better in the front seat if there is no airbag
>present. The best place is the back seat, the next best place is the front
>seat with no airbag, and the worst place is the front seat WITH an airbag.
>
>The TJ can have the rear seat removed, indeed the most basic of base models
>has no back seat at all -- you won't find many of these -- but since the
>owner can take the seat out and still need to haul a kid, then somebody
>figured out that it makes sense that the airbag should be able to be turned
>off. This feature is standard after the '97 model year, and there were no
>airbags in the '95 and earlier models, and there was no '96 model year. ONLY
>the '97 can have the need for the Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Kit, and to
>get the kit installed the owner must sign a waiver available from the
>National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration.
>
>PS
>I suppose there might be a few early production '98s that might be able to
>use this kit, but my knowledge is that all '98s have the bypass switch
>istalled from the factory.
>
>
>
>
>
>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com ...
>> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
>> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>>> option.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>>
>>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>>
>>>> TW
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>>
>>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>>> you can as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Guest
Posts: n/a
With back seat, you get no switch.
No back seat, you get a switch.
IIRC
In message <vIqdnUFGRPcWOuLeRVn-sQ@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland" wrote:
>The Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Switch is standard on all TJs made from the
>'98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
>people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
>
>The deal is, kids fare better in the back seat when the car is in a
>collision, and they fare better in the front seat if there is no airbag
>present. The best place is the back seat, the next best place is the front
>seat with no airbag, and the worst place is the front seat WITH an airbag.
>
>The TJ can have the rear seat removed, indeed the most basic of base models
>has no back seat at all -- you won't find many of these -- but since the
>owner can take the seat out and still need to haul a kid, then somebody
>figured out that it makes sense that the airbag should be able to be turned
>off. This feature is standard after the '97 model year, and there were no
>airbags in the '95 and earlier models, and there was no '96 model year. ONLY
>the '97 can have the need for the Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Kit, and to
>get the kit installed the owner must sign a waiver available from the
>National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration.
>
>PS
>I suppose there might be a few early production '98s that might be able to
>use this kit, but my knowledge is that all '98s have the bypass switch
>istalled from the factory.
>
>
>
>
>
>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com ...
>> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
>> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>>> option.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>>
>>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>>
>>>> TW
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>>
>>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>>> you can as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
No back seat, you get a switch.
IIRC
In message <vIqdnUFGRPcWOuLeRVn-sQ@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland" wrote:
>The Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Switch is standard on all TJs made from the
>'98 year. The '97s didn't have it, but the factory made it available for
>people that are willing to sign a NHTSA waiver.
>
>The deal is, kids fare better in the back seat when the car is in a
>collision, and they fare better in the front seat if there is no airbag
>present. The best place is the back seat, the next best place is the front
>seat with no airbag, and the worst place is the front seat WITH an airbag.
>
>The TJ can have the rear seat removed, indeed the most basic of base models
>has no back seat at all -- you won't find many of these -- but since the
>owner can take the seat out and still need to haul a kid, then somebody
>figured out that it makes sense that the airbag should be able to be turned
>off. This feature is standard after the '97 model year, and there were no
>airbags in the '95 and earlier models, and there was no '96 model year. ONLY
>the '97 can have the need for the Passenger Side Airbag Bypass Kit, and to
>get the kit installed the owner must sign a waiver available from the
>National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration.
>
>PS
>I suppose there might be a few early production '98s that might be able to
>use this kit, but my knowledge is that all '98s have the bypass switch
>istalled from the factory.
>
>
>
>
>
>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com ...
>> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
>> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>>> option.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>>
>>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>>
>>>> TW
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>>
>>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>>> you can as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>


