WATER IN BREATHER ASSY
11-29-2006, 11:31 AM
#11
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Re: WATER IN BREATHER ASSY
Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
condensation...
The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
air filter.
Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
rattles.
There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
be replaced with a T fitting.
If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
breather tube.
You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
water left in the oil would be a good idea.
You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
Mike
jeepr wrote:
>
> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
> No rain since i last dried out the breather
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > What engine?
> >
> > How's the weather?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> >
> > jeepr wrote:
> >> have a 88yj
> >>
> >> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
> >> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
> >> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
> >> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
> >> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
condensation...
The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
air filter.
Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
rattles.
There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
be replaced with a T fitting.
If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
breather tube.
You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
water left in the oil would be a good idea.
You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
Mike
jeepr wrote:
>
> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
> No rain since i last dried out the breather
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > What engine?
> >
> > How's the weather?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> >
> > jeepr wrote:
> >> have a 88yj
> >>
> >> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
> >> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
> >> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
> >> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
> >> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
11-29-2006, 11:31 AM
#12
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Re: WATER IN BREATHER ASSY
Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
condensation...
The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
air filter.
Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
rattles.
There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
be replaced with a T fitting.
If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
breather tube.
You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
water left in the oil would be a good idea.
You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
Mike
jeepr wrote:
>
> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
> No rain since i last dried out the breather
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > What engine?
> >
> > How's the weather?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> >
> > jeepr wrote:
> >> have a 88yj
> >>
> >> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
> >> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
> >> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
> >> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
> >> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
condensation...
The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
air filter.
Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
rattles.
There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
be replaced with a T fitting.
If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
breather tube.
You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
water left in the oil would be a good idea.
You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
Mike
jeepr wrote:
>
> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
> No rain since i last dried out the breather
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > What engine?
> >
> > How's the weather?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> >
> > jeepr wrote:
> >> have a 88yj
> >>
> >> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
> >> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
> >> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
> >> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
> >> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
11-29-2006, 11:31 AM
#13
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Re: WATER IN BREATHER ASSY
Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
condensation...
The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
air filter.
Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
rattles.
There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
be replaced with a T fitting.
If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
breather tube.
You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
water left in the oil would be a good idea.
You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
Mike
jeepr wrote:
>
> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
> No rain since i last dried out the breather
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > What engine?
> >
> > How's the weather?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> >
> > jeepr wrote:
> >> have a 88yj
> >>
> >> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
> >> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
> >> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
> >> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
> >> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
condensation...
The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
air filter.
Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
rattles.
There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
be replaced with a T fitting.
If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
breather tube.
You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
water left in the oil would be a good idea.
You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
Mike
jeepr wrote:
>
> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
> No rain since i last dried out the breather
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > What engine?
> >
> > How's the weather?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> >
> > jeepr wrote:
> >> have a 88yj
> >>
> >> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
> >> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
> >> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
> >> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
> >> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
11-29-2006, 12:08 PM
#14
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Posts: n/a
Re: WATER IN BREATHER ASSY
I was looking under the hood and the line that goes from the canister
drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I
cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like
a charm.
The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it.
Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
> bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
>
> Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
>
> Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
> condensation...
>
> The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
> just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
> air filter.
>
> Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
> which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
> high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
> intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
>
> I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
> rattles.
>
> There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
> that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
> canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
> be replaced with a T fitting.
>
> If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
> warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
> crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
> breather tube.
>
> You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
> bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
> exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
> is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
> filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
> up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
>
> A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
>
> Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
> water left in the oil would be a good idea.
>
> You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
>
> Mike
>
> jeepr wrote:
>> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
>> No rain since i last dried out the breather
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>> What engine?
>>>
>>> How's the weather?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>>
>>> jeepr wrote:
>>>> have a 88yj
>>>>
>>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
>>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
>>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
>>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
>>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I
cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like
a charm.
The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it.
Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
> bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
>
> Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
>
> Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
> condensation...
>
> The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
> just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
> air filter.
>
> Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
> which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
> high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
> intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
>
> I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
> rattles.
>
> There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
> that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
> canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
> be replaced with a T fitting.
>
> If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
> warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
> crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
> breather tube.
>
> You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
> bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
> exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
> is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
> filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
> up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
>
> A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
>
> Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
> water left in the oil would be a good idea.
>
> You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
>
> Mike
>
> jeepr wrote:
>> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
>> No rain since i last dried out the breather
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>> What engine?
>>>
>>> How's the weather?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>>
>>> jeepr wrote:
>>>> have a 88yj
>>>>
>>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
>>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
>>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
>>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
>>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
11-29-2006, 12:08 PM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: WATER IN BREATHER ASSY
I was looking under the hood and the line that goes from the canister
drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I
cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like
a charm.
The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it.
Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
> bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
>
> Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
>
> Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
> condensation...
>
> The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
> just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
> air filter.
>
> Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
> which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
> high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
> intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
>
> I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
> rattles.
>
> There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
> that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
> canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
> be replaced with a T fitting.
>
> If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
> warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
> crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
> breather tube.
>
> You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
> bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
> exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
> is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
> filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
> up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
>
> A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
>
> Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
> water left in the oil would be a good idea.
>
> You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
>
> Mike
>
> jeepr wrote:
>> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
>> No rain since i last dried out the breather
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>> What engine?
>>>
>>> How's the weather?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>>
>>> jeepr wrote:
>>>> have a 88yj
>>>>
>>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
>>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
>>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
>>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
>>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I
cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like
a charm.
The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it.
Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
> bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
>
> Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
>
> Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
> condensation...
>
> The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
> just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
> air filter.
>
> Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
> which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
> high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
> intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
>
> I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
> rattles.
>
> There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
> that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
> canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
> be replaced with a T fitting.
>
> If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
> warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
> crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
> breather tube.
>
> You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
> bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
> exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
> is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
> filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
> up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
>
> A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
>
> Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
> water left in the oil would be a good idea.
>
> You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
>
> Mike
>
> jeepr wrote:
>> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
>> No rain since i last dried out the breather
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>> What engine?
>>>
>>> How's the weather?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>>
>>> jeepr wrote:
>>>> have a 88yj
>>>>
>>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
>>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
>>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
>>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
>>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
11-29-2006, 12:08 PM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: WATER IN BREATHER ASSY
I was looking under the hood and the line that goes from the canister
drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I
cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like
a charm.
The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it.
Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
> bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
>
> Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
>
> Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
> condensation...
>
> The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
> just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
> air filter.
>
> Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
> which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
> high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
> intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
>
> I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
> rattles.
>
> There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
> that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
> canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
> be replaced with a T fitting.
>
> If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
> warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
> crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
> breather tube.
>
> You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
> bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
> exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
> is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
> filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
> up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
>
> A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
>
> Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
> water left in the oil would be a good idea.
>
> You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
>
> Mike
>
> jeepr wrote:
>> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
>> No rain since i last dried out the breather
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>> What engine?
>>>
>>> How's the weather?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>>
>>> jeepr wrote:
>>>> have a 88yj
>>>>
>>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
>>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
>>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
>>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
>>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I
cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like
a charm.
The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it.
Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
> bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
>
> Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
>
> Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
> condensation...
>
> The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
> just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
> air filter.
>
> Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
> which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
> high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
> intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
>
> I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
> rattles.
>
> There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
> that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
> canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
> be replaced with a T fitting.
>
> If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
> warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
> crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
> breather tube.
>
> You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
> bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
> exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
> is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
> filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
> up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
>
> A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
>
> Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
> water left in the oil would be a good idea.
>
> You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
>
> Mike
>
> jeepr wrote:
>> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
>> No rain since i last dried out the breather
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>> What engine?
>>>
>>> How's the weather?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>>
>>> jeepr wrote:
>>>> have a 88yj
>>>>
>>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
>>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
>>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
>>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
>>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
11-29-2006, 12:48 PM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: WATER IN BREATHER ASSY
The crack in the line will mess with the idle when that circuit turns on
as the engine warms up and cause the condensation by blowing the PCV
valve's suction.
I think you likely have found the cause.
Mike
jeepr wrote:
>
> I was looking under the hood and the line that goes from the canister
> drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I
> cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like
> a charm.
> The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it.
>
> Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
> > bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
> >
> > Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
> >
> > Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
> > condensation...
> >
> > The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
> > just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
> > air filter.
> >
> > Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
> > which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
> > high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
> > intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
> >
> > I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
> > rattles.
> >
> > There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
> > that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
> > canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
> > be replaced with a T fitting.
> >
> > If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
> > warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
> > crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
> > breather tube.
> >
> > You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
> > bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
> > exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
> > is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
> > filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
> > up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
> >
> > A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
> >
> > Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
> > water left in the oil would be a good idea.
> >
> > You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > jeepr wrote:
> >> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
> >> No rain since i last dried out the breather
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>> What engine?
> >>>
> >>> How's the weather?
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> jeepr wrote:
> >>>> have a 88yj
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
> >>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
> >>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
> >>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
> >>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
as the engine warms up and cause the condensation by blowing the PCV
valve's suction.
I think you likely have found the cause.
Mike
jeepr wrote:
>
> I was looking under the hood and the line that goes from the canister
> drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I
> cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like
> a charm.
> The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it.
>
> Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
> > bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
> >
> > Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
> >
> > Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
> > condensation...
> >
> > The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
> > just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
> > air filter.
> >
> > Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
> > which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
> > high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
> > intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
> >
> > I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
> > rattles.
> >
> > There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
> > that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
> > canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
> > be replaced with a T fitting.
> >
> > If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
> > warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
> > crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
> > breather tube.
> >
> > You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
> > bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
> > exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
> > is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
> > filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
> > up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
> >
> > A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
> >
> > Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
> > water left in the oil would be a good idea.
> >
> > You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > jeepr wrote:
> >> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
> >> No rain since i last dried out the breather
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>> What engine?
> >>>
> >>> How's the weather?
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> jeepr wrote:
> >>>> have a 88yj
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
> >>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
> >>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
> >>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
> >>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
11-29-2006, 12:48 PM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: WATER IN BREATHER ASSY
The crack in the line will mess with the idle when that circuit turns on
as the engine warms up and cause the condensation by blowing the PCV
valve's suction.
I think you likely have found the cause.
Mike
jeepr wrote:
>
> I was looking under the hood and the line that goes from the canister
> drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I
> cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like
> a charm.
> The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it.
>
> Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
> > bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
> >
> > Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
> >
> > Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
> > condensation...
> >
> > The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
> > just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
> > air filter.
> >
> > Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
> > which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
> > high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
> > intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
> >
> > I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
> > rattles.
> >
> > There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
> > that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
> > canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
> > be replaced with a T fitting.
> >
> > If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
> > warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
> > crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
> > breather tube.
> >
> > You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
> > bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
> > exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
> > is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
> > filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
> > up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
> >
> > A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
> >
> > Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
> > water left in the oil would be a good idea.
> >
> > You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > jeepr wrote:
> >> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
> >> No rain since i last dried out the breather
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>> What engine?
> >>>
> >>> How's the weather?
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> jeepr wrote:
> >>>> have a 88yj
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
> >>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
> >>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
> >>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
> >>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
as the engine warms up and cause the condensation by blowing the PCV
valve's suction.
I think you likely have found the cause.
Mike
jeepr wrote:
>
> I was looking under the hood and the line that goes from the canister
> drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I
> cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like
> a charm.
> The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it.
>
> Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
> > bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
> >
> > Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
> >
> > Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
> > condensation...
> >
> > The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
> > just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
> > air filter.
> >
> > Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
> > which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
> > high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
> > intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
> >
> > I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
> > rattles.
> >
> > There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
> > that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
> > canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
> > be replaced with a T fitting.
> >
> > If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
> > warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
> > crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
> > breather tube.
> >
> > You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
> > bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
> > exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
> > is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
> > filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
> > up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
> >
> > A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
> >
> > Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
> > water left in the oil would be a good idea.
> >
> > You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > jeepr wrote:
> >> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
> >> No rain since i last dried out the breather
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>> What engine?
> >>>
> >>> How's the weather?
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> jeepr wrote:
> >>>> have a 88yj
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
> >>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
> >>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
> >>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
> >>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
11-29-2006, 12:48 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: WATER IN BREATHER ASSY
The crack in the line will mess with the idle when that circuit turns on
as the engine warms up and cause the condensation by blowing the PCV
valve's suction.
I think you likely have found the cause.
Mike
jeepr wrote:
>
> I was looking under the hood and the line that goes from the canister
> drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I
> cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like
> a charm.
> The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it.
>
> Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
> > bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
> >
> > Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
> >
> > Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
> > condensation...
> >
> > The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
> > just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
> > air filter.
> >
> > Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
> > which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
> > high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
> > intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
> >
> > I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
> > rattles.
> >
> > There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
> > that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
> > canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
> > be replaced with a T fitting.
> >
> > If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
> > warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
> > crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
> > breather tube.
> >
> > You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
> > bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
> > exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
> > is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
> > filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
> > up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
> >
> > A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
> >
> > Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
> > water left in the oil would be a good idea.
> >
> > You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > jeepr wrote:
> >> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
> >> No rain since i last dried out the breather
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>> What engine?
> >>>
> >>> How's the weather?
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> jeepr wrote:
> >>>> have a 88yj
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
> >>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
> >>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
> >>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
> >>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
as the engine warms up and cause the condensation by blowing the PCV
valve's suction.
I think you likely have found the cause.
Mike
jeepr wrote:
>
> I was looking under the hood and the line that goes from the canister
> drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I
> cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like
> a charm.
> The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it.
>
> Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
> > bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
> >
> > Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
> >
> > Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
> > condensation...
> >
> > The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
> > just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
> > air filter.
> >
> > Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
> > which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
> > high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
> > intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
> >
> > I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
> > rattles.
> >
> > There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
> > that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the charcoal
> > canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It can
> > be replaced with a T fitting.
> >
> > If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
> > warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
> > crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
> > breather tube.
> >
> > You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
> > bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
> > exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. This
> > is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
> > filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
> > up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
> >
> > A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
> >
> > Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off any
> > water left in the oil would be a good idea.
> >
> > You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > jeepr wrote:
> >> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area .
> >> No rain since i last dried out the breather
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>> What engine?
> >>>
> >>> How's the weather?
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> jeepr wrote:
> >>>> have a 88yj
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable amount
> >>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large bottle of
> >>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other than
> >>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
> >>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
11-29-2006, 02:19 PM
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Re: WATER IN BREATHER ASSY
You may want to check and see if water has gotten into the oil.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:456DC7E1.B4C926B9@sympatico.ca...
> The crack in the line will mess with the idle when that circuit turns on
> as the engine warms up and cause the condensation by blowing the PCV
> valve's suction.
>
> I think you likely have found the cause.
>
> Mike
>
> jeepr wrote:
>>
>> I was looking under the hood and the line that goes from the canister
>> drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I
>> cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like
>> a charm.
>> The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it.
>>
>> Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm.
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> > Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
>> > bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
>> >
>> > Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
>> >
>> > Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
>> > condensation...
>> >
>> > The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
>> > just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
>> > air filter.
>> >
>> > Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
>> > which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
>> > high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
>> > intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
>> >
>> > I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
>> > rattles.
>> >
>> > There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
>> > that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the
>> > charcoal
>> > canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It
>> > can
>> > be replaced with a T fitting.
>> >
>> > If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
>> > warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
>> > crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
>> > breather tube.
>> >
>> > You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
>> > bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
>> > exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold.
>> > This
>> > is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
>> > filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
>> > up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
>> >
>> > A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
>> >
>> > Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off
>> > any
>> > water left in the oil would be a good idea.
>> >
>> > You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > jeepr wrote:
>> >> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area
>> >> .
>> >> No rain since i last dried out the breather
>> >>
>> >> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>> What engine?
>> >>>
>> >>> How's the weather?
>> >>>
>> >>> Mike
>> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> jeepr wrote:
>> >>>> have a 88yj
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable
>> >>>> amount
>> >>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large
>> >>>> bottle of
>> >>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other
>> >>>> than
>> >>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
>> >>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:456DC7E1.B4C926B9@sympatico.ca...
> The crack in the line will mess with the idle when that circuit turns on
> as the engine warms up and cause the condensation by blowing the PCV
> valve's suction.
>
> I think you likely have found the cause.
>
> Mike
>
> jeepr wrote:
>>
>> I was looking under the hood and the line that goes from the canister
>> drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I
>> cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like
>> a charm.
>> The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it.
>>
>> Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm.
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> > Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a
>> > bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today.
>> >
>> > Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton.
>> >
>> > Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for
>> > condensation...
>> >
>> > The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop
>> > just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the
>> > air filter.
>> >
>> > Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation
>> > which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the
>> > high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the
>> > intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb.
>> >
>> > I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it
>> > rattles.
>> >
>> > There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb
>> > that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the
>> > charcoal
>> > canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It
>> > can
>> > be replaced with a T fitting.
>> >
>> > If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never
>> > warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the
>> > crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover
>> > breather tube.
>> >
>> > You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the
>> > bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the
>> > exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold.
>> > This
>> > is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air
>> > filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked
>> > up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct.
>> >
>> > A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation.
>> >
>> > Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off
>> > any
>> > water left in the oil would be a good idea.
>> >
>> > You aren't missing any antifreeze right?
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > jeepr wrote:
>> >> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area
>> >> .
>> >> No rain since i last dried out the breather
>> >>
>> >> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>> What engine?
>> >>>
>> >>> How's the weather?
>> >>>
>> >>> Mike
>> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> jeepr wrote:
>> >>>> have a 88yj
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable
>> >>>> amount
>> >>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large
>> >>>> bottle of
>> >>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other
>> >>>> than
>> >>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle
>> >>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500
