Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
03-04-2006, 09:50 AM
#21
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Re: Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
Tim, your problems with the Wrangler, which are to be expected after any
extensive redesign of a component, were exacerbated because of your medical
condition. It is just not fair to call a clutch rod popping off
"dangerous".
There was no need to purchase additional insurance on the Enterprise car if
you paid for it with a Gold or Platinum credit card. Check your cardholder
agreement. You will find that the rental car insurance they provide, is as
good as the coverage you purchased from the rental company. Your
homeowner's or auto insurance company may provide some liability coverage
too. Know your present coverage, before signing any rental car agreement.
The dealer people in Phoenix seem like decent sorts. They did not have to
find you a rental car, and it is to their credit that they helped you in
this way.
It is not unusual for people with medical problems to leave essential
supplies at home during a vacation or even a short excursion such as your
trip to Phoenix. You would be amazed at some of the stories that I have
been told by patients, as a volunteer emergency medical technician in a
tourist destination town! If there is something that you really, really
need, make sure to have it with you at all times. I suffered terribly
because of the lack of Tabasco® sauce while I was in Spain...
Earle
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extensive redesign of a component, were exacerbated because of your medical
condition. It is just not fair to call a clutch rod popping off
"dangerous".
There was no need to purchase additional insurance on the Enterprise car if
you paid for it with a Gold or Platinum credit card. Check your cardholder
agreement. You will find that the rental car insurance they provide, is as
good as the coverage you purchased from the rental company. Your
homeowner's or auto insurance company may provide some liability coverage
too. Know your present coverage, before signing any rental car agreement.
The dealer people in Phoenix seem like decent sorts. They did not have to
find you a rental car, and it is to their credit that they helped you in
this way.
It is not unusual for people with medical problems to leave essential
supplies at home during a vacation or even a short excursion such as your
trip to Phoenix. You would be amazed at some of the stories that I have
been told by patients, as a volunteer emergency medical technician in a
tourist destination town! If there is something that you really, really
need, make sure to have it with you at all times. I suffered terribly
because of the lack of Tabasco® sauce while I was in Spain...
Earle
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> Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
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03-04-2006, 10:00 AM
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Re: Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
You need to learn how the vehicle works by the sounds of it....
I have broken my clutch linkage on many occasions over the years and
even have been around a couple TJ's when their clutch up and died.
In 'all' these cases, we were able to dive home or at least able to
starter walk the vehicle out of the intersection! Actually the last TJ
owner that phoned me with a dead clutch in the middle of an intersection
made it out of the way and all the way home on the starter just fine....
On the older manual TJ's all you have to do is put a fuse in the 'auto'
fuse slot to allow the engine to start with the clutch pedal up or to
start in gear on purpose. This is for times when you are 'say' flooded
out on a creek crossing. You can just hit the starter with the engine
in 2nd gear and 'walk' the Jeep or even my old Volvo up out of the
creek. LOL, been there...
If you 'just' have busted linkage or loss of hydraulic fluid, then you
can 'easily' start the vehicle by just pushing down on the clutch pedal
while having the shifter in 2nd or 3rd, hit the starter and away you
go. The interlock switch is at the top of the clutch pedal. It can
just be jumpered too...
It is a bear to shift without a clutch, but 'very' possible with a firm
hand or starting in 3rd will limp you home at an easy 30 mph anyway or
get you to a shop.
My $0.02....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Tim wrote:
>
> Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
>
> The 2006 six speed Jeep Wrangler has a very dangerous design flaw. New for
> the 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the six speed transmissions and what I have
> recently learned the "hard way" is part of the redesign includes the clutch
> assembly. The clutch rod comes out of the floor board and attaches to the
> clutch pedal with a clip/attachment that bolts onto the clutch pedal. The
> problem here is as part of their new design the clip or attachment piece is
> made of "plastic" and I found that it can break very easily and disable your
> Jeep. I learned this fact this last weekend and if I had been rock climbing
> or in the desert instead of in town I might not be here letting all you Jeep
> owners know about this very dangerous problem.
<snip>
I have broken my clutch linkage on many occasions over the years and
even have been around a couple TJ's when their clutch up and died.
In 'all' these cases, we were able to dive home or at least able to
starter walk the vehicle out of the intersection! Actually the last TJ
owner that phoned me with a dead clutch in the middle of an intersection
made it out of the way and all the way home on the starter just fine....
On the older manual TJ's all you have to do is put a fuse in the 'auto'
fuse slot to allow the engine to start with the clutch pedal up or to
start in gear on purpose. This is for times when you are 'say' flooded
out on a creek crossing. You can just hit the starter with the engine
in 2nd gear and 'walk' the Jeep or even my old Volvo up out of the
creek. LOL, been there...
If you 'just' have busted linkage or loss of hydraulic fluid, then you
can 'easily' start the vehicle by just pushing down on the clutch pedal
while having the shifter in 2nd or 3rd, hit the starter and away you
go. The interlock switch is at the top of the clutch pedal. It can
just be jumpered too...
It is a bear to shift without a clutch, but 'very' possible with a firm
hand or starting in 3rd will limp you home at an easy 30 mph anyway or
get you to a shop.
My $0.02....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Tim wrote:
>
> Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
>
> The 2006 six speed Jeep Wrangler has a very dangerous design flaw. New for
> the 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the six speed transmissions and what I have
> recently learned the "hard way" is part of the redesign includes the clutch
> assembly. The clutch rod comes out of the floor board and attaches to the
> clutch pedal with a clip/attachment that bolts onto the clutch pedal. The
> problem here is as part of their new design the clip or attachment piece is
> made of "plastic" and I found that it can break very easily and disable your
> Jeep. I learned this fact this last weekend and if I had been rock climbing
> or in the desert instead of in town I might not be here letting all you Jeep
> owners know about this very dangerous problem.
<snip>
03-04-2006, 10:00 AM
#23
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Re: Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
You need to learn how the vehicle works by the sounds of it....
I have broken my clutch linkage on many occasions over the years and
even have been around a couple TJ's when their clutch up and died.
In 'all' these cases, we were able to dive home or at least able to
starter walk the vehicle out of the intersection! Actually the last TJ
owner that phoned me with a dead clutch in the middle of an intersection
made it out of the way and all the way home on the starter just fine....
On the older manual TJ's all you have to do is put a fuse in the 'auto'
fuse slot to allow the engine to start with the clutch pedal up or to
start in gear on purpose. This is for times when you are 'say' flooded
out on a creek crossing. You can just hit the starter with the engine
in 2nd gear and 'walk' the Jeep or even my old Volvo up out of the
creek. LOL, been there...
If you 'just' have busted linkage or loss of hydraulic fluid, then you
can 'easily' start the vehicle by just pushing down on the clutch pedal
while having the shifter in 2nd or 3rd, hit the starter and away you
go. The interlock switch is at the top of the clutch pedal. It can
just be jumpered too...
It is a bear to shift without a clutch, but 'very' possible with a firm
hand or starting in 3rd will limp you home at an easy 30 mph anyway or
get you to a shop.
My $0.02....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Tim wrote:
>
> Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
>
> The 2006 six speed Jeep Wrangler has a very dangerous design flaw. New for
> the 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the six speed transmissions and what I have
> recently learned the "hard way" is part of the redesign includes the clutch
> assembly. The clutch rod comes out of the floor board and attaches to the
> clutch pedal with a clip/attachment that bolts onto the clutch pedal. The
> problem here is as part of their new design the clip or attachment piece is
> made of "plastic" and I found that it can break very easily and disable your
> Jeep. I learned this fact this last weekend and if I had been rock climbing
> or in the desert instead of in town I might not be here letting all you Jeep
> owners know about this very dangerous problem.
<snip>
I have broken my clutch linkage on many occasions over the years and
even have been around a couple TJ's when their clutch up and died.
In 'all' these cases, we were able to dive home or at least able to
starter walk the vehicle out of the intersection! Actually the last TJ
owner that phoned me with a dead clutch in the middle of an intersection
made it out of the way and all the way home on the starter just fine....
On the older manual TJ's all you have to do is put a fuse in the 'auto'
fuse slot to allow the engine to start with the clutch pedal up or to
start in gear on purpose. This is for times when you are 'say' flooded
out on a creek crossing. You can just hit the starter with the engine
in 2nd gear and 'walk' the Jeep or even my old Volvo up out of the
creek. LOL, been there...
If you 'just' have busted linkage or loss of hydraulic fluid, then you
can 'easily' start the vehicle by just pushing down on the clutch pedal
while having the shifter in 2nd or 3rd, hit the starter and away you
go. The interlock switch is at the top of the clutch pedal. It can
just be jumpered too...
It is a bear to shift without a clutch, but 'very' possible with a firm
hand or starting in 3rd will limp you home at an easy 30 mph anyway or
get you to a shop.
My $0.02....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Tim wrote:
>
> Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
>
> The 2006 six speed Jeep Wrangler has a very dangerous design flaw. New for
> the 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the six speed transmissions and what I have
> recently learned the "hard way" is part of the redesign includes the clutch
> assembly. The clutch rod comes out of the floor board and attaches to the
> clutch pedal with a clip/attachment that bolts onto the clutch pedal. The
> problem here is as part of their new design the clip or attachment piece is
> made of "plastic" and I found that it can break very easily and disable your
> Jeep. I learned this fact this last weekend and if I had been rock climbing
> or in the desert instead of in town I might not be here letting all you Jeep
> owners know about this very dangerous problem.
<snip>
03-04-2006, 10:00 AM
#24
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Re: Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
You need to learn how the vehicle works by the sounds of it....
I have broken my clutch linkage on many occasions over the years and
even have been around a couple TJ's when their clutch up and died.
In 'all' these cases, we were able to dive home or at least able to
starter walk the vehicle out of the intersection! Actually the last TJ
owner that phoned me with a dead clutch in the middle of an intersection
made it out of the way and all the way home on the starter just fine....
On the older manual TJ's all you have to do is put a fuse in the 'auto'
fuse slot to allow the engine to start with the clutch pedal up or to
start in gear on purpose. This is for times when you are 'say' flooded
out on a creek crossing. You can just hit the starter with the engine
in 2nd gear and 'walk' the Jeep or even my old Volvo up out of the
creek. LOL, been there...
If you 'just' have busted linkage or loss of hydraulic fluid, then you
can 'easily' start the vehicle by just pushing down on the clutch pedal
while having the shifter in 2nd or 3rd, hit the starter and away you
go. The interlock switch is at the top of the clutch pedal. It can
just be jumpered too...
It is a bear to shift without a clutch, but 'very' possible with a firm
hand or starting in 3rd will limp you home at an easy 30 mph anyway or
get you to a shop.
My $0.02....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Tim wrote:
>
> Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
>
> The 2006 six speed Jeep Wrangler has a very dangerous design flaw. New for
> the 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the six speed transmissions and what I have
> recently learned the "hard way" is part of the redesign includes the clutch
> assembly. The clutch rod comes out of the floor board and attaches to the
> clutch pedal with a clip/attachment that bolts onto the clutch pedal. The
> problem here is as part of their new design the clip or attachment piece is
> made of "plastic" and I found that it can break very easily and disable your
> Jeep. I learned this fact this last weekend and if I had been rock climbing
> or in the desert instead of in town I might not be here letting all you Jeep
> owners know about this very dangerous problem.
<snip>
I have broken my clutch linkage on many occasions over the years and
even have been around a couple TJ's when their clutch up and died.
In 'all' these cases, we were able to dive home or at least able to
starter walk the vehicle out of the intersection! Actually the last TJ
owner that phoned me with a dead clutch in the middle of an intersection
made it out of the way and all the way home on the starter just fine....
On the older manual TJ's all you have to do is put a fuse in the 'auto'
fuse slot to allow the engine to start with the clutch pedal up or to
start in gear on purpose. This is for times when you are 'say' flooded
out on a creek crossing. You can just hit the starter with the engine
in 2nd gear and 'walk' the Jeep or even my old Volvo up out of the
creek. LOL, been there...
If you 'just' have busted linkage or loss of hydraulic fluid, then you
can 'easily' start the vehicle by just pushing down on the clutch pedal
while having the shifter in 2nd or 3rd, hit the starter and away you
go. The interlock switch is at the top of the clutch pedal. It can
just be jumpered too...
It is a bear to shift without a clutch, but 'very' possible with a firm
hand or starting in 3rd will limp you home at an easy 30 mph anyway or
get you to a shop.
My $0.02....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Tim wrote:
>
> Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
>
> The 2006 six speed Jeep Wrangler has a very dangerous design flaw. New for
> the 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the six speed transmissions and what I have
> recently learned the "hard way" is part of the redesign includes the clutch
> assembly. The clutch rod comes out of the floor board and attaches to the
> clutch pedal with a clip/attachment that bolts onto the clutch pedal. The
> problem here is as part of their new design the clip or attachment piece is
> made of "plastic" and I found that it can break very easily and disable your
> Jeep. I learned this fact this last weekend and if I had been rock climbing
> or in the desert instead of in town I might not be here letting all you Jeep
> owners know about this very dangerous problem.
<snip>
03-04-2006, 10:00 AM
#25
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Re: Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
You need to learn how the vehicle works by the sounds of it....
I have broken my clutch linkage on many occasions over the years and
even have been around a couple TJ's when their clutch up and died.
In 'all' these cases, we were able to dive home or at least able to
starter walk the vehicle out of the intersection! Actually the last TJ
owner that phoned me with a dead clutch in the middle of an intersection
made it out of the way and all the way home on the starter just fine....
On the older manual TJ's all you have to do is put a fuse in the 'auto'
fuse slot to allow the engine to start with the clutch pedal up or to
start in gear on purpose. This is for times when you are 'say' flooded
out on a creek crossing. You can just hit the starter with the engine
in 2nd gear and 'walk' the Jeep or even my old Volvo up out of the
creek. LOL, been there...
If you 'just' have busted linkage or loss of hydraulic fluid, then you
can 'easily' start the vehicle by just pushing down on the clutch pedal
while having the shifter in 2nd or 3rd, hit the starter and away you
go. The interlock switch is at the top of the clutch pedal. It can
just be jumpered too...
It is a bear to shift without a clutch, but 'very' possible with a firm
hand or starting in 3rd will limp you home at an easy 30 mph anyway or
get you to a shop.
My $0.02....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Tim wrote:
>
> Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
>
> The 2006 six speed Jeep Wrangler has a very dangerous design flaw. New for
> the 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the six speed transmissions and what I have
> recently learned the "hard way" is part of the redesign includes the clutch
> assembly. The clutch rod comes out of the floor board and attaches to the
> clutch pedal with a clip/attachment that bolts onto the clutch pedal. The
> problem here is as part of their new design the clip or attachment piece is
> made of "plastic" and I found that it can break very easily and disable your
> Jeep. I learned this fact this last weekend and if I had been rock climbing
> or in the desert instead of in town I might not be here letting all you Jeep
> owners know about this very dangerous problem.
<snip>
I have broken my clutch linkage on many occasions over the years and
even have been around a couple TJ's when their clutch up and died.
In 'all' these cases, we were able to dive home or at least able to
starter walk the vehicle out of the intersection! Actually the last TJ
owner that phoned me with a dead clutch in the middle of an intersection
made it out of the way and all the way home on the starter just fine....
On the older manual TJ's all you have to do is put a fuse in the 'auto'
fuse slot to allow the engine to start with the clutch pedal up or to
start in gear on purpose. This is for times when you are 'say' flooded
out on a creek crossing. You can just hit the starter with the engine
in 2nd gear and 'walk' the Jeep or even my old Volvo up out of the
creek. LOL, been there...
If you 'just' have busted linkage or loss of hydraulic fluid, then you
can 'easily' start the vehicle by just pushing down on the clutch pedal
while having the shifter in 2nd or 3rd, hit the starter and away you
go. The interlock switch is at the top of the clutch pedal. It can
just be jumpered too...
It is a bear to shift without a clutch, but 'very' possible with a firm
hand or starting in 3rd will limp you home at an easy 30 mph anyway or
get you to a shop.
My $0.02....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Tim wrote:
>
> Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
>
> The 2006 six speed Jeep Wrangler has a very dangerous design flaw. New for
> the 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the six speed transmissions and what I have
> recently learned the "hard way" is part of the redesign includes the clutch
> assembly. The clutch rod comes out of the floor board and attaches to the
> clutch pedal with a clip/attachment that bolts onto the clutch pedal. The
> problem here is as part of their new design the clip or attachment piece is
> made of "plastic" and I found that it can break very easily and disable your
> Jeep. I learned this fact this last weekend and if I had been rock climbing
> or in the desert instead of in town I might not be here letting all you Jeep
> owners know about this very dangerous problem.
<snip>
03-04-2006, 10:29 AM
#30
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Re: Warning!! Dangerous design flaw in the 2006 Jeep Wranglers!!
Sorry to hear about your problem Tim, these things happen.
I never travel more than walking distance from home without my CAA+
card. For just over $100 per year it is cheap insurance for breakdowns.
CAA+ will get me a free tow up to about 150km (90 miles). This will
usually get your vehicle home or to your local dealer.
If you can afford a new vehicle, you can afford to join a good auto
club. I prefer vehicles that I can buy for under $1000 so I need it
even more.
Merrill
I never travel more than walking distance from home without my CAA+
card. For just over $100 per year it is cheap insurance for breakdowns.
CAA+ will get me a free tow up to about 150km (90 miles). This will
usually get your vehicle home or to your local dealer.
If you can afford a new vehicle, you can afford to join a good auto
club. I prefer vehicles that I can buy for under $1000 so I need it
even more.
Merrill
