Warn HS9500I wiring
09-21-2006, 09:25 PM
#41
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Re: Warn HS9500I wiring
Why is it necessary to have 4 solenoids to operate the winch? Is this
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction?
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction?
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
09-21-2006, 09:25 PM
#42
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Re: Warn HS9500I wiring
Why is it necessary to have 4 solenoids to operate the winch? Is this
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction?
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction?
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
09-21-2006, 09:25 PM
#43
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Re: Warn HS9500I wiring
Why is it necessary to have 4 solenoids to operate the winch? Is this
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction?
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction?
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
09-21-2006, 09:25 PM
#44
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Re: Warn HS9500I wiring
Why is it necessary to have 4 solenoids to operate the winch? Is this
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction?
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction?
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
09-21-2006, 09:25 PM
#45
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Re: Warn HS9500I wiring
Why is it necessary to have 4 solenoids to operate the winch? Is this
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction?
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction?
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
09-21-2006, 09:25 PM
#46
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Re: Warn HS9500I wiring
Why is it necessary to have 4 solenoids to operate the winch? Is this
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction?
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction?
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
09-21-2006, 09:26 PM
#47
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Re: Warn HS9500I wiring
Why is it necessary to have 4 solenoids to operate the winch? Is this
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction? The supplier had
to order some long use solenoids in for me.
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction? The supplier had
to order some long use solenoids in for me.
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
09-21-2006, 09:26 PM
#48
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Re: Warn HS9500I wiring
Why is it necessary to have 4 solenoids to operate the winch? Is this
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction? The supplier had
to order some long use solenoids in for me.
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction? The supplier had
to order some long use solenoids in for me.
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
09-21-2006, 09:26 PM
#49
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Re: Warn HS9500I wiring
Why is it necessary to have 4 solenoids to operate the winch? Is this
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction? The supplier had
to order some long use solenoids in for me.
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
motors. Is there a big difference in the construction? The supplier had
to order some long use solenoids in for me.
How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
overheating the solenoids?
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Bingo.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
09-21-2006, 10:09 PM
#50
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Re: Warn HS9500I wiring
The 4 are needed for the way DC electricity works in two directions. In
order not to have a dead short when you turn it on forward, you need a
second solenoid to break the reverse circuit. Then when you go reverse,
you need another second solenoid to break the forward circuit.
These are long use solenoids that can be smoked out from heavy use even
as you have found out. An intermittent one will let the smoke out on
the first heavy load.
The HS9000i I have can load up enough to smoke the heat shrink off the
battery cable connectors if you stall it while bending a hook open.
That would instantly kill an intermittent solenoid. My warn solenoids
are still working......
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Randy wrote:
>
> Why is it necessary to have 4 solenoids to operate the winch? Is this
> quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
> do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
> When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
> use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
> motors. Is there a big difference in the construction?
> How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
> overheating the solenoids?
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > Bingo.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >
> > > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
order not to have a dead short when you turn it on forward, you need a
second solenoid to break the reverse circuit. Then when you go reverse,
you need another second solenoid to break the forward circuit.
These are long use solenoids that can be smoked out from heavy use even
as you have found out. An intermittent one will let the smoke out on
the first heavy load.
The HS9000i I have can load up enough to smoke the heat shrink off the
battery cable connectors if you stall it while bending a hook open.
That would instantly kill an intermittent solenoid. My warn solenoids
are still working......
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Randy wrote:
>
> Why is it necessary to have 4 solenoids to operate the winch? Is this
> quantity required in order to complete the wiring or is it something to
> do with the amount of heat generated by the solenoids?
> When I went to buy a solenoid today, one supplier said there are "long
> use" solenoids and "intermittent use" solenoids as used on starting
> motors. Is there a big difference in the construction?
> How long should I safely be able to operate the winch before
> overheating the solenoids?
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > Bingo.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >
> > > It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> > > chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.
