Mike Romain

Again I will ask, what was wrong with it before, or did it just go in
for a 'tune up'?

My Warn HS9000i has two power wires, a positive cable to the battery and
a negative cable to the battery. I do not believe they can work without
the negative cable to the battery.....

'If' the brushes were bad and it quit working or got really slow, then
the solenoid contacts can easily be arced out so now they won't pass
power any more.

Do you have a multimeter? It is really easy to see if the solenoid is
passing power out that way.

Mike

arwolkowski@shaw.ca wrote:
>
> Mike, as I've said, I had the motor taken apart by an electrical shop
> and new brushes, etc. installed. I can't confirm what they actually did
> in there but when I function test the motor via by-passing the
> solenoids, it works in both directions.
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Clicking normally means the solenoid is energizing, just the output has
> > issues.
> >
> > Bad brushes can draw too much juice and arc out solenoid contacts. If
> > your solenoids open up, they usually can be cleaned or the contact bolts
> > actually flipped around to give a new surface. On some you can flip the
> > main contact washer too.
> >
> > If you can't open them and have verified the output connections are
> > clean, then you might have to replace one.
> >
> > I haven't had my warn HS9000i apart but if it's wired like Bill's
> > diagram, then I would first suspect circuit C for dirty connections.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > arwolkowski@shaw.ca wrote:
> > >
> > > Initially, I took it into a shop that did some work on the motor, e.g.,
> > > installed new brushes, etc. When I finally got it back it was all
> > > disassembled except for the motor. I have since reassembled everything
> > > and tested the motor for rotation, etc. Now it seems that I'm having a
> > > problem with the solenoids or connections.
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > > What was it doing wrong before?
> > > >
> > > > It does sound like the solenoid isn't passing power though.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
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> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > arwolkowski@shaw.ca wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the diagram.
> > > > > I got it all wired up and all I get is "click" from the solenoids!
> > > > > I removed the wiring and tested the motor for forward/ backward
> > > > > rotation by connecting the battery and a jumper wire to A, F1 & F2
> > > > > terminals..... all seems fine. Is this a faulty solenoid or something
> > > > > along that line? I've made sure that all my connections are clean and
> > > > > tight.
> > > > > Any ideas?

Matt Macchiarolo

I have an HS9500i and I thought I had a problem with the soleloids when I
realized when I had cleaned my battery terminals I had forgotten to
re-connected the winch's negative battery cable and it was grounding through
the chassis.

There is a ground terminal on the bottom of the motor housing that should be
directly connected to the negative battery terminal; Bill's diagram doesn't
reflect that.

<arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:1158793383.879618.30940@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Right now I've got it on a bench with a test battery nearby. I'm
> running the ground cable from the battery to the winch mounting bracket
> and grounding it that way. Is this perhaps the problem? Where should I
> be running the ground cable to?
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and
>> is
>> chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I
>> assume.
>>
>> <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:1158788537.074406.240830@d34g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Thanks for the diagram.
>> > I got it all wired up and all I get is "click" from the solenoids!
>> > I removed the wiring and tested the motor for forward/ backward
>> > rotation by connecting the battery and a jumper wire to A, F1 & F2
>> > terminals..... all seems fine. Is this a faulty solenoid or something
>> > along that line? I've made sure that all my connections are clean and
>> > tight.
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>

Matt Macchiarolo

I have an HS9500i and I thought I had a problem with the soleloids when I
realized when I had cleaned my battery terminals I had forgotten to
re-connected the winch's negative battery cable and it was grounding through
the chassis.

There is a ground terminal on the bottom of the motor housing that should be
directly connected to the negative battery terminal; Bill's diagram doesn't
reflect that.

<arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:1158793383.879618.30940@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Right now I've got it on a bench with a test battery nearby. I'm
> running the ground cable from the battery to the winch mounting bracket
> and grounding it that way. Is this perhaps the problem? Where should I
> be running the ground cable to?
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and
>> is
>> chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I
>> assume.
>>
>> <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:1158788537.074406.240830@d34g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Thanks for the diagram.
>> > I got it all wired up and all I get is "click" from the solenoids!
>> > I removed the wiring and tested the motor for forward/ backward
>> > rotation by connecting the battery and a jumper wire to A, F1 & F2
>> > terminals..... all seems fine. Is this a faulty solenoid or something
>> > along that line? I've made sure that all my connections are clean and
>> > tight.
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>

Matt Macchiarolo

I have an HS9500i and I thought I had a problem with the soleloids when I
realized when I had cleaned my battery terminals I had forgotten to
re-connected the winch's negative battery cable and it was grounding through
the chassis.

There is a ground terminal on the bottom of the motor housing that should be
directly connected to the negative battery terminal; Bill's diagram doesn't
reflect that.

<arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:1158793383.879618.30940@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Right now I've got it on a bench with a test battery nearby. I'm
> running the ground cable from the battery to the winch mounting bracket
> and grounding it that way. Is this perhaps the problem? Where should I
> be running the ground cable to?
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and
>> is
>> chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I
>> assume.
>>
>> <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:1158788537.074406.240830@d34g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Thanks for the diagram.
>> > I got it all wired up and all I get is "click" from the solenoids!
>> > I removed the wiring and tested the motor for forward/ backward
>> > rotation by connecting the battery and a jumper wire to A, F1 & F2
>> > terminals..... all seems fine. Is this a faulty solenoid or something
>> > along that line? I've made sure that all my connections are clean and
>> > tight.
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>

Randy

Mike, I was using it on a unit driven by my hired man. He said it
wasn't working so I took it in for repair/ tuneup/
refurbishment...........
I did ground to the motor case on the bottom of the motor. The thing
still only "clicked". I have since tested each solenoid and found one
that was shifting but not making connection. I'll buy another one
tomorrow and give it another go. Thanks for all the suggestions. It all
seems so clear once you get a discussion going about a particular
problem!!
Randy
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> I have an HS9500i and I thought I had a problem with the soleloids when I
> realized when I had cleaned my battery terminals I had forgotten to
> re-connected the winch's negative battery cable and it was grounding through
> the chassis.
>
> There is a ground terminal on the bottom of the motor housing that should be
> directly connected to the negative battery terminal; Bill's diagram doesn't
> reflect that.
>
> <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:1158793383.879618.30940@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > Right now I've got it on a bench with a test battery nearby. I'm
> > running the ground cable from the battery to the winch mounting bracket
> > and grounding it that way. Is this perhaps the problem? Where should I
> > be running the ground cable to?
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >> It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and
> >> is
> >> chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I
> >> assume.
> >>
> >> <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:1158788537.074406.240830@d34g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> >> > Thanks for the diagram.
> >> > I got it all wired up and all I get is "click" from the solenoids!
> >> > I removed the wiring and tested the motor for forward/ backward
> >> > rotation by connecting the battery and a jumper wire to A, F1 & F2
> >> > terminals..... all seems fine. Is this a faulty solenoid or something
> >> > along that line? I've made sure that all my connections are clean and
> >> > tight.
> >> > Any ideas?
> >> >
> >

Randy

Mike, I was using it on a unit driven by my hired man. He said it
wasn't working so I took it in for repair/ tuneup/
refurbishment...........
I did ground to the motor case on the bottom of the motor. The thing
still only "clicked". I have since tested each solenoid and found one
that was shifting but not making connection. I'll buy another one
tomorrow and give it another go. Thanks for all the suggestions. It all
seems so clear once you get a discussion going about a particular
problem!!
Randy
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> I have an HS9500i and I thought I had a problem with the soleloids when I
> realized when I had cleaned my battery terminals I had forgotten to
> re-connected the winch's negative battery cable and it was grounding through
> the chassis.
>
> There is a ground terminal on the bottom of the motor housing that should be
> directly connected to the negative battery terminal; Bill's diagram doesn't
> reflect that.
>
> <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:1158793383.879618.30940@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > Right now I've got it on a bench with a test battery nearby. I'm
> > running the ground cable from the battery to the winch mounting bracket
> > and grounding it that way. Is this perhaps the problem? Where should I
> > be running the ground cable to?
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >> It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and
> >> is
> >> chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I
> >> assume.
> >>
> >> <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:1158788537.074406.240830@d34g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> >> > Thanks for the diagram.
> >> > I got it all wired up and all I get is "click" from the solenoids!
> >> > I removed the wiring and tested the motor for forward/ backward
> >> > rotation by connecting the battery and a jumper wire to A, F1 & F2
> >> > terminals..... all seems fine. Is this a faulty solenoid or something
> >> > along that line? I've made sure that all my connections are clean and
> >> > tight.
> >> > Any ideas?
> >> >
> >

Randy

Mike, I was using it on a unit driven by my hired man. He said it
wasn't working so I took it in for repair/ tuneup/
refurbishment...........
I did ground to the motor case on the bottom of the motor. The thing
still only "clicked". I have since tested each solenoid and found one
that was shifting but not making connection. I'll buy another one
tomorrow and give it another go. Thanks for all the suggestions. It all
seems so clear once you get a discussion going about a particular
problem!!
Randy
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> I have an HS9500i and I thought I had a problem with the soleloids when I
> realized when I had cleaned my battery terminals I had forgotten to
> re-connected the winch's negative battery cable and it was grounding through
> the chassis.
>
> There is a ground terminal on the bottom of the motor housing that should be
> directly connected to the negative battery terminal; Bill's diagram doesn't
> reflect that.
>
> <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:1158793383.879618.30940@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > Right now I've got it on a bench with a test battery nearby. I'm
> > running the ground cable from the battery to the winch mounting bracket
> > and grounding it that way. Is this perhaps the problem? Where should I
> > be running the ground cable to?
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >> It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and
> >> is
> >> chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I
> >> assume.
> >>
> >> <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:1158788537.074406.240830@d34g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> >> > Thanks for the diagram.
> >> > I got it all wired up and all I get is "click" from the solenoids!
> >> > I removed the wiring and tested the motor for forward/ backward
> >> > rotation by connecting the battery and a jumper wire to A, F1 & F2
> >> > terminals..... all seems fine. Is this a faulty solenoid or something
> >> > along that line? I've made sure that all my connections are clean and
> >> > tight.
> >> > Any ideas?
> >> >
> >

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Bingo.
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Bingo.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Bingo.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> It'll do that if there is no direct ground connection to the battery and is
> chassis grounded, but you're connecting directly to the battery, I assume.