Wandering TJ
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Re: Wandering TJ
Did they install a rear track bar relocation bracket?? a friend of mine has
the same lift and had the same problems...have a look at the spacing between
your rear wheels and the coils to see if it's equal on both sides...if
there's more room on one side than the other there's a good chance you need
a rear track bar relocation bracket to center the rear axle...and if not
included in the kit will run you around $50. and are made by BDS...
Good luck! and please let us know how ya make out...
Jeff
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:zIudnVIU4ujg2nfenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Most lifts will screw up the caster angle to where it will have less of an
> "on center" feeling, a lift like yours probably put it less than 4
> degrees. You can adjust the caster with adjustable upper control arms or
> cam bolts for the LCA's, but you would throw the front pinion angle out of
> whack. FSM says the pinion angle takes precedence over caster angle. Short
> of relocating the suspension bracketry, or relocating the steering
> knuckles on the ends of the axle, it's something you'll probably have to
> live with
>
> That said, the lower caster angle itself exacerbates bad toe-in, so have
> the alignment checked again.
>
> "Dennis Croll" <dcportland@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:qZednX1h56_AgXfenZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> 2000 TJ Sahara
>> 6 cylinder
>> Automatic Trans
>> 30,000 miles
>> BDS 3 inch Lift Kit
>>
>> I purchased this Jeep with about 20,000 miles on it and it drove
>> perfectly
>> straight. I decided to put a lift kit on it so I had a BDS 3 inch lift
>> installed on it with new wheels and 33 X 10.5 tires. They ballanced the
>> wheels and did the alignment and I picked it up. It looks great but it
>> seems to wander and it only takes a small turn the other way to correct
>> but
>> then it wanders that way so it is a constant wandering feeling. Well I
>> took
>> the vehicle back and mentioned the wandering to them and they said that
>> it
>> was probable a combination of the larger tires and the lift that caused
>> it
>> to wander. I have driven the vehicle for about 10,000 miles thinking it
>> would maybe fix itself but it did not. I thought maybe I should take it
>> in
>> and see if the alignment is really correct and maybe the person who
>> alighned
>> it did it wrong or something. Then the other day I was reading in a news
>> group about another person having this trouble. Could someone give me an
>> idea what I should do to see if I can make this vehicle drive straight.
>> Also another strange this about the lift kit is when you go over
>> diverences
>> in terrain like going up a steep driveway the like kit makes all kinds of
>> squecking noises almost like the bushings or something is too tight.
>> Anyway I would be very happy if someone would give me any ideas on what I
>> can do.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
the same lift and had the same problems...have a look at the spacing between
your rear wheels and the coils to see if it's equal on both sides...if
there's more room on one side than the other there's a good chance you need
a rear track bar relocation bracket to center the rear axle...and if not
included in the kit will run you around $50. and are made by BDS...
Good luck! and please let us know how ya make out...
Jeff
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:zIudnVIU4ujg2nfenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Most lifts will screw up the caster angle to where it will have less of an
> "on center" feeling, a lift like yours probably put it less than 4
> degrees. You can adjust the caster with adjustable upper control arms or
> cam bolts for the LCA's, but you would throw the front pinion angle out of
> whack. FSM says the pinion angle takes precedence over caster angle. Short
> of relocating the suspension bracketry, or relocating the steering
> knuckles on the ends of the axle, it's something you'll probably have to
> live with
>
> That said, the lower caster angle itself exacerbates bad toe-in, so have
> the alignment checked again.
>
> "Dennis Croll" <dcportland@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:qZednX1h56_AgXfenZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> 2000 TJ Sahara
>> 6 cylinder
>> Automatic Trans
>> 30,000 miles
>> BDS 3 inch Lift Kit
>>
>> I purchased this Jeep with about 20,000 miles on it and it drove
>> perfectly
>> straight. I decided to put a lift kit on it so I had a BDS 3 inch lift
>> installed on it with new wheels and 33 X 10.5 tires. They ballanced the
>> wheels and did the alignment and I picked it up. It looks great but it
>> seems to wander and it only takes a small turn the other way to correct
>> but
>> then it wanders that way so it is a constant wandering feeling. Well I
>> took
>> the vehicle back and mentioned the wandering to them and they said that
>> it
>> was probable a combination of the larger tires and the lift that caused
>> it
>> to wander. I have driven the vehicle for about 10,000 miles thinking it
>> would maybe fix itself but it did not. I thought maybe I should take it
>> in
>> and see if the alignment is really correct and maybe the person who
>> alighned
>> it did it wrong or something. Then the other day I was reading in a news
>> group about another person having this trouble. Could someone give me an
>> idea what I should do to see if I can make this vehicle drive straight.
>> Also another strange this about the lift kit is when you go over
>> diverences
>> in terrain like going up a steep driveway the like kit makes all kinds of
>> squecking noises almost like the bushings or something is too tight.
>> Anyway I would be very happy if someone would give me any ideas on what I
>> can do.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
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Re: Wandering TJ
Did they install a rear track bar relocation bracket?? a friend of mine has
the same lift and had the same problems...have a look at the spacing between
your rear wheels and the coils to see if it's equal on both sides...if
there's more room on one side than the other there's a good chance you need
a rear track bar relocation bracket to center the rear axle...and if not
included in the kit will run you around $50. and are made by BDS...
Good luck! and please let us know how ya make out...
Jeff
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:zIudnVIU4ujg2nfenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Most lifts will screw up the caster angle to where it will have less of an
> "on center" feeling, a lift like yours probably put it less than 4
> degrees. You can adjust the caster with adjustable upper control arms or
> cam bolts for the LCA's, but you would throw the front pinion angle out of
> whack. FSM says the pinion angle takes precedence over caster angle. Short
> of relocating the suspension bracketry, or relocating the steering
> knuckles on the ends of the axle, it's something you'll probably have to
> live with
>
> That said, the lower caster angle itself exacerbates bad toe-in, so have
> the alignment checked again.
>
> "Dennis Croll" <dcportland@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:qZednX1h56_AgXfenZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> 2000 TJ Sahara
>> 6 cylinder
>> Automatic Trans
>> 30,000 miles
>> BDS 3 inch Lift Kit
>>
>> I purchased this Jeep with about 20,000 miles on it and it drove
>> perfectly
>> straight. I decided to put a lift kit on it so I had a BDS 3 inch lift
>> installed on it with new wheels and 33 X 10.5 tires. They ballanced the
>> wheels and did the alignment and I picked it up. It looks great but it
>> seems to wander and it only takes a small turn the other way to correct
>> but
>> then it wanders that way so it is a constant wandering feeling. Well I
>> took
>> the vehicle back and mentioned the wandering to them and they said that
>> it
>> was probable a combination of the larger tires and the lift that caused
>> it
>> to wander. I have driven the vehicle for about 10,000 miles thinking it
>> would maybe fix itself but it did not. I thought maybe I should take it
>> in
>> and see if the alignment is really correct and maybe the person who
>> alighned
>> it did it wrong or something. Then the other day I was reading in a news
>> group about another person having this trouble. Could someone give me an
>> idea what I should do to see if I can make this vehicle drive straight.
>> Also another strange this about the lift kit is when you go over
>> diverences
>> in terrain like going up a steep driveway the like kit makes all kinds of
>> squecking noises almost like the bushings or something is too tight.
>> Anyway I would be very happy if someone would give me any ideas on what I
>> can do.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
the same lift and had the same problems...have a look at the spacing between
your rear wheels and the coils to see if it's equal on both sides...if
there's more room on one side than the other there's a good chance you need
a rear track bar relocation bracket to center the rear axle...and if not
included in the kit will run you around $50. and are made by BDS...
Good luck! and please let us know how ya make out...
Jeff
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:zIudnVIU4ujg2nfenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Most lifts will screw up the caster angle to where it will have less of an
> "on center" feeling, a lift like yours probably put it less than 4
> degrees. You can adjust the caster with adjustable upper control arms or
> cam bolts for the LCA's, but you would throw the front pinion angle out of
> whack. FSM says the pinion angle takes precedence over caster angle. Short
> of relocating the suspension bracketry, or relocating the steering
> knuckles on the ends of the axle, it's something you'll probably have to
> live with
>
> That said, the lower caster angle itself exacerbates bad toe-in, so have
> the alignment checked again.
>
> "Dennis Croll" <dcportland@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:qZednX1h56_AgXfenZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> 2000 TJ Sahara
>> 6 cylinder
>> Automatic Trans
>> 30,000 miles
>> BDS 3 inch Lift Kit
>>
>> I purchased this Jeep with about 20,000 miles on it and it drove
>> perfectly
>> straight. I decided to put a lift kit on it so I had a BDS 3 inch lift
>> installed on it with new wheels and 33 X 10.5 tires. They ballanced the
>> wheels and did the alignment and I picked it up. It looks great but it
>> seems to wander and it only takes a small turn the other way to correct
>> but
>> then it wanders that way so it is a constant wandering feeling. Well I
>> took
>> the vehicle back and mentioned the wandering to them and they said that
>> it
>> was probable a combination of the larger tires and the lift that caused
>> it
>> to wander. I have driven the vehicle for about 10,000 miles thinking it
>> would maybe fix itself but it did not. I thought maybe I should take it
>> in
>> and see if the alignment is really correct and maybe the person who
>> alighned
>> it did it wrong or something. Then the other day I was reading in a news
>> group about another person having this trouble. Could someone give me an
>> idea what I should do to see if I can make this vehicle drive straight.
>> Also another strange this about the lift kit is when you go over
>> diverences
>> in terrain like going up a steep driveway the like kit makes all kinds of
>> squecking noises almost like the bushings or something is too tight.
>> Anyway I would be very happy if someone would give me any ideas on what I
>> can do.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
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Re: Wandering TJ
Did they install a rear track bar relocation bracket?? a friend of mine has
the same lift and had the same problems...have a look at the spacing between
your rear wheels and the coils to see if it's equal on both sides...if
there's more room on one side than the other there's a good chance you need
a rear track bar relocation bracket to center the rear axle...and if not
included in the kit will run you around $50. and are made by BDS...
Good luck! and please let us know how ya make out...
Jeff
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:zIudnVIU4ujg2nfenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Most lifts will screw up the caster angle to where it will have less of an
> "on center" feeling, a lift like yours probably put it less than 4
> degrees. You can adjust the caster with adjustable upper control arms or
> cam bolts for the LCA's, but you would throw the front pinion angle out of
> whack. FSM says the pinion angle takes precedence over caster angle. Short
> of relocating the suspension bracketry, or relocating the steering
> knuckles on the ends of the axle, it's something you'll probably have to
> live with
>
> That said, the lower caster angle itself exacerbates bad toe-in, so have
> the alignment checked again.
>
> "Dennis Croll" <dcportland@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:qZednX1h56_AgXfenZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> 2000 TJ Sahara
>> 6 cylinder
>> Automatic Trans
>> 30,000 miles
>> BDS 3 inch Lift Kit
>>
>> I purchased this Jeep with about 20,000 miles on it and it drove
>> perfectly
>> straight. I decided to put a lift kit on it so I had a BDS 3 inch lift
>> installed on it with new wheels and 33 X 10.5 tires. They ballanced the
>> wheels and did the alignment and I picked it up. It looks great but it
>> seems to wander and it only takes a small turn the other way to correct
>> but
>> then it wanders that way so it is a constant wandering feeling. Well I
>> took
>> the vehicle back and mentioned the wandering to them and they said that
>> it
>> was probable a combination of the larger tires and the lift that caused
>> it
>> to wander. I have driven the vehicle for about 10,000 miles thinking it
>> would maybe fix itself but it did not. I thought maybe I should take it
>> in
>> and see if the alignment is really correct and maybe the person who
>> alighned
>> it did it wrong or something. Then the other day I was reading in a news
>> group about another person having this trouble. Could someone give me an
>> idea what I should do to see if I can make this vehicle drive straight.
>> Also another strange this about the lift kit is when you go over
>> diverences
>> in terrain like going up a steep driveway the like kit makes all kinds of
>> squecking noises almost like the bushings or something is too tight.
>> Anyway I would be very happy if someone would give me any ideas on what I
>> can do.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
the same lift and had the same problems...have a look at the spacing between
your rear wheels and the coils to see if it's equal on both sides...if
there's more room on one side than the other there's a good chance you need
a rear track bar relocation bracket to center the rear axle...and if not
included in the kit will run you around $50. and are made by BDS...
Good luck! and please let us know how ya make out...
Jeff
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:zIudnVIU4ujg2nfenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Most lifts will screw up the caster angle to where it will have less of an
> "on center" feeling, a lift like yours probably put it less than 4
> degrees. You can adjust the caster with adjustable upper control arms or
> cam bolts for the LCA's, but you would throw the front pinion angle out of
> whack. FSM says the pinion angle takes precedence over caster angle. Short
> of relocating the suspension bracketry, or relocating the steering
> knuckles on the ends of the axle, it's something you'll probably have to
> live with
>
> That said, the lower caster angle itself exacerbates bad toe-in, so have
> the alignment checked again.
>
> "Dennis Croll" <dcportland@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:qZednX1h56_AgXfenZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> 2000 TJ Sahara
>> 6 cylinder
>> Automatic Trans
>> 30,000 miles
>> BDS 3 inch Lift Kit
>>
>> I purchased this Jeep with about 20,000 miles on it and it drove
>> perfectly
>> straight. I decided to put a lift kit on it so I had a BDS 3 inch lift
>> installed on it with new wheels and 33 X 10.5 tires. They ballanced the
>> wheels and did the alignment and I picked it up. It looks great but it
>> seems to wander and it only takes a small turn the other way to correct
>> but
>> then it wanders that way so it is a constant wandering feeling. Well I
>> took
>> the vehicle back and mentioned the wandering to them and they said that
>> it
>> was probable a combination of the larger tires and the lift that caused
>> it
>> to wander. I have driven the vehicle for about 10,000 miles thinking it
>> would maybe fix itself but it did not. I thought maybe I should take it
>> in
>> and see if the alignment is really correct and maybe the person who
>> alighned
>> it did it wrong or something. Then the other day I was reading in a news
>> group about another person having this trouble. Could someone give me an
>> idea what I should do to see if I can make this vehicle drive straight.
>> Also another strange this about the lift kit is when you go over
>> diverences
>> in terrain like going up a steep driveway the like kit makes all kinds of
>> squecking noises almost like the bushings or something is too tight.
>> Anyway I would be very happy if someone would give me any ideas on what I
>> can do.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
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