vent selector
in my entire life i cannot remember ever wanting a/c blowing out of the dash
and floor vents simultaneously. each montana winter day though, i want to blow heat out of the dash and floor vents simultaneously. the TJ vent selector is set up ass backwards, and id like to disconnect the compressor from the combined dash/floor vent setting so that i could use that setting for heat without running the compressor. ive never been behind the panel and i dont know what to expect. any tips or recommendations on the best way of accomplishing this would be appreciated. -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: vent selector
New to the snow are ya??
You talking dash, as in blowing on the windshield? (defrost) or blowing out the front toward you? Don't remember the AC kicking on with the air blowing toward me, but any setting with the defrost on will automatically kick on the AC, and open the vents....AC is great when the air is blowing on the floor though, since the hot air is melting the ice/snow on the floor, which creates crazy humidity, and fogs up all the windows....the AC dehumidifies the air, keeping the windows clear. if you pop off the vent grate on top, there's a screw undernieth.....and another screw behind the ashtray...with those removed, the center dash section should pop off, then 2 or three screws to remove the control pod....all the wires are separate, connecting into the selector. Do you still want the AC to kick on for the defrost settings? You could just put a toggle switch in to break the connection for the compressor. Paul Nathan W. Collier wrote: > in my entire life i cannot remember ever wanting a/c blowing out of the dash > and floor vents simultaneously. each montana winter day though, i want to > blow heat out of the dash and floor vents simultaneously. the TJ vent > selector is set up ass backwards, and id like to disconnect the compressor > from the combined dash/floor vent setting so that i could use that setting > for heat without running the compressor. ive never been behind the panel > and i dont know what to expect. any tips or recommendations on the best way > of accomplishing this would be appreciated. > |
Re: vent selector
New to the snow are ya??
You talking dash, as in blowing on the windshield? (defrost) or blowing out the front toward you? Don't remember the AC kicking on with the air blowing toward me, but any setting with the defrost on will automatically kick on the AC, and open the vents....AC is great when the air is blowing on the floor though, since the hot air is melting the ice/snow on the floor, which creates crazy humidity, and fogs up all the windows....the AC dehumidifies the air, keeping the windows clear. if you pop off the vent grate on top, there's a screw undernieth.....and another screw behind the ashtray...with those removed, the center dash section should pop off, then 2 or three screws to remove the control pod....all the wires are separate, connecting into the selector. Do you still want the AC to kick on for the defrost settings? You could just put a toggle switch in to break the connection for the compressor. Paul Nathan W. Collier wrote: > in my entire life i cannot remember ever wanting a/c blowing out of the dash > and floor vents simultaneously. each montana winter day though, i want to > blow heat out of the dash and floor vents simultaneously. the TJ vent > selector is set up ass backwards, and id like to disconnect the compressor > from the combined dash/floor vent setting so that i could use that setting > for heat without running the compressor. ive never been behind the panel > and i dont know what to expect. any tips or recommendations on the best way > of accomplishing this would be appreciated. > |
Re: vent selector
New to the snow are ya??
You talking dash, as in blowing on the windshield? (defrost) or blowing out the front toward you? Don't remember the AC kicking on with the air blowing toward me, but any setting with the defrost on will automatically kick on the AC, and open the vents....AC is great when the air is blowing on the floor though, since the hot air is melting the ice/snow on the floor, which creates crazy humidity, and fogs up all the windows....the AC dehumidifies the air, keeping the windows clear. if you pop off the vent grate on top, there's a screw undernieth.....and another screw behind the ashtray...with those removed, the center dash section should pop off, then 2 or three screws to remove the control pod....all the wires are separate, connecting into the selector. Do you still want the AC to kick on for the defrost settings? You could just put a toggle switch in to break the connection for the compressor. Paul Nathan W. Collier wrote: > in my entire life i cannot remember ever wanting a/c blowing out of the dash > and floor vents simultaneously. each montana winter day though, i want to > blow heat out of the dash and floor vents simultaneously. the TJ vent > selector is set up ass backwards, and id like to disconnect the compressor > from the combined dash/floor vent setting so that i could use that setting > for heat without running the compressor. ive never been behind the panel > and i dont know what to expect. any tips or recommendations on the best way > of accomplishing this would be appreciated. > |
Re: vent selector
"Paul Keating" <pkeating@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:aJl1e.12137$JK1.1051875@news20.bellglobal.com ... > You talking dash, as in blowing on the windshield? (defrost) or blowing > out the front toward you? i want to blow heat both on my feet and on my torso through the dash vents simultaneously. as it is, this setting is for a/c and it turns on the compressor. > Don't remember the AC kicking on with the air blowing toward me there is a dash setting without a/c, but the setting that blows out of both the dash and the feet is a/c. > Do you still want the AC to kick on for the defrost settings? yeah thats fine, i just dont feel i need it for the heat settings. > You could just put a toggle switch in to break the connection for the > compressor. thought about that but i dont want to start hacking things up. if i could just remove the trigger that turns on the compressor at that setting id be fine. i just wasnt sure how it worked. thanks, -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
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"Paul Keating" <pkeating@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:aJl1e.12137$JK1.1051875@news20.bellglobal.com ... > You talking dash, as in blowing on the windshield? (defrost) or blowing > out the front toward you? i want to blow heat both on my feet and on my torso through the dash vents simultaneously. as it is, this setting is for a/c and it turns on the compressor. > Don't remember the AC kicking on with the air blowing toward me there is a dash setting without a/c, but the setting that blows out of both the dash and the feet is a/c. > Do you still want the AC to kick on for the defrost settings? yeah thats fine, i just dont feel i need it for the heat settings. > You could just put a toggle switch in to break the connection for the > compressor. thought about that but i dont want to start hacking things up. if i could just remove the trigger that turns on the compressor at that setting id be fine. i just wasnt sure how it worked. thanks, -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: vent selector
"Paul Keating" <pkeating@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:aJl1e.12137$JK1.1051875@news20.bellglobal.com ... > You talking dash, as in blowing on the windshield? (defrost) or blowing > out the front toward you? i want to blow heat both on my feet and on my torso through the dash vents simultaneously. as it is, this setting is for a/c and it turns on the compressor. > Don't remember the AC kicking on with the air blowing toward me there is a dash setting without a/c, but the setting that blows out of both the dash and the feet is a/c. > Do you still want the AC to kick on for the defrost settings? yeah thats fine, i just dont feel i need it for the heat settings. > You could just put a toggle switch in to break the connection for the > compressor. thought about that but i dont want to start hacking things up. if i could just remove the trigger that turns on the compressor at that setting id be fine. i just wasnt sure how it worked. thanks, -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: vent selector
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:114c2g2njgkob26@corp.supernews.com... > i want to blow heat both on my feet and on my torso through the dash vents > simultaneously. as it is, this setting is for a/c and it turns on the > compressor. i put up a picture at http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=653 that demonstrates the setting i want to use for heat without the compressor running. -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: vent selector
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:114c2g2njgkob26@corp.supernews.com... > i want to blow heat both on my feet and on my torso through the dash vents > simultaneously. as it is, this setting is for a/c and it turns on the > compressor. i put up a picture at http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=653 that demonstrates the setting i want to use for heat without the compressor running. -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: vent selector
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:114c2g2njgkob26@corp.supernews.com... > i want to blow heat both on my feet and on my torso through the dash vents > simultaneously. as it is, this setting is for a/c and it turns on the > compressor. i put up a picture at http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=653 that demonstrates the setting i want to use for heat without the compressor running. -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
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Nathan W. Collier did pass the time by typing:
> i put up a picture at http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=653 > that demonstrates the setting i want to use for heat without the compressor > running. I'd just throw a switch into the A/C compressor clutch ground or break the ground at the relay. Breaking the ground side is both safer and easier. Easy because you just extend the line inside then ground through the switch to the body and safer because it can't short out to the frame. -- DougW |
Re: vent selector
Nathan W. Collier did pass the time by typing:
> i put up a picture at http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=653 > that demonstrates the setting i want to use for heat without the compressor > running. I'd just throw a switch into the A/C compressor clutch ground or break the ground at the relay. Breaking the ground side is both safer and easier. Easy because you just extend the line inside then ground through the switch to the body and safer because it can't short out to the frame. -- DougW |
Re: vent selector
Nathan W. Collier did pass the time by typing:
> i put up a picture at http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=653 > that demonstrates the setting i want to use for heat without the compressor > running. I'd just throw a switch into the A/C compressor clutch ground or break the ground at the relay. Breaking the ground side is both safer and easier. Easy because you just extend the line inside then ground through the switch to the body and safer because it can't short out to the frame. -- DougW |
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Don't do it. Your compressor is lubricated through circulation. If left
idle all winter, it will be more prone to internal corrosion and seals can dry out and leak refrigerant. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org Nathan W. Collier wrote: > and id like to disconnect the compressor from the combined dash/floor > vent setting so that i could use that setting for heat without > running the compressor. |
Re: vent selector
Don't do it. Your compressor is lubricated through circulation. If left
idle all winter, it will be more prone to internal corrosion and seals can dry out and leak refrigerant. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org Nathan W. Collier wrote: > and id like to disconnect the compressor from the combined dash/floor > vent setting so that i could use that setting for heat without > running the compressor. |
Re: vent selector
Don't do it. Your compressor is lubricated through circulation. If left
idle all winter, it will be more prone to internal corrosion and seals can dry out and leak refrigerant. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org Nathan W. Collier wrote: > and id like to disconnect the compressor from the combined dash/floor > vent setting so that i could use that setting for heat without > running the compressor. |
Re: vent selector
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:3atb45F6djdiqU1@individual.net... > Don't do it. Your compressor is lubricated through circulation. If left > idle all winter, it will be more prone to internal corrosion and seals can > dry out and leak refrigerant. the compressor gets adquate usage during the defrost cycle. -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: vent selector
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:3atb45F6djdiqU1@individual.net... > Don't do it. Your compressor is lubricated through circulation. If left > idle all winter, it will be more prone to internal corrosion and seals can > dry out and leak refrigerant. the compressor gets adquate usage during the defrost cycle. -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: vent selector
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:3atb45F6djdiqU1@individual.net... > Don't do it. Your compressor is lubricated through circulation. If left > idle all winter, it will be more prone to internal corrosion and seals can > dry out and leak refrigerant. the compressor gets adquate usage during the defrost cycle. -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: vent selector
Hi Sandman,
Kalifornia new cars at least since my '78 Bronco have been using the air conditioner with the heater/defroster, as a dehumidifier. And I've disconnecting it and even in our dry climate it reminds why we used to carried a towel. If you like to try it just disconnect the pressure switch unusually on the accumulator: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/Fixes...essure-low.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Nathan W. Collier" wrote: > > i want to blow heat both on my feet and on my torso through the dash vents > simultaneously. as it is, this setting is for a/c and it turns on the > compressor. > > there is a dash setting without a/c, but the setting that blows out of both > the dash and the feet is a/c. > > yeah thats fine, i just dont feel i need it for the heat settings. > > > thought about that but i dont want to start hacking things up. if i could > just remove the trigger that turns on the compressor at that setting id be > fine. i just wasnt sure how it worked. > thanks, > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > http://7SlotGrille.com > http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: vent selector
Hi Sandman,
Kalifornia new cars at least since my '78 Bronco have been using the air conditioner with the heater/defroster, as a dehumidifier. And I've disconnecting it and even in our dry climate it reminds why we used to carried a towel. If you like to try it just disconnect the pressure switch unusually on the accumulator: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/Fixes...essure-low.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Nathan W. Collier" wrote: > > i want to blow heat both on my feet and on my torso through the dash vents > simultaneously. as it is, this setting is for a/c and it turns on the > compressor. > > there is a dash setting without a/c, but the setting that blows out of both > the dash and the feet is a/c. > > yeah thats fine, i just dont feel i need it for the heat settings. > > > thought about that but i dont want to start hacking things up. if i could > just remove the trigger that turns on the compressor at that setting id be > fine. i just wasnt sure how it worked. > thanks, > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > http://7SlotGrille.com > http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: vent selector
Hi Sandman,
Kalifornia new cars at least since my '78 Bronco have been using the air conditioner with the heater/defroster, as a dehumidifier. And I've disconnecting it and even in our dry climate it reminds why we used to carried a towel. If you like to try it just disconnect the pressure switch unusually on the accumulator: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/Fixes...essure-low.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Nathan W. Collier" wrote: > > i want to blow heat both on my feet and on my torso through the dash vents > simultaneously. as it is, this setting is for a/c and it turns on the > compressor. > > there is a dash setting without a/c, but the setting that blows out of both > the dash and the feet is a/c. > > yeah thats fine, i just dont feel i need it for the heat settings. > > > thought about that but i dont want to start hacking things up. if i could > just remove the trigger that turns on the compressor at that setting id be > fine. i just wasnt sure how it worked. > thanks, > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > http://7SlotGrille.com > http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:424992EF.22B91A10@cox.net... > Hi Sandman, > Kalifornia new cars at least since my '78 Bronco have been using > the air conditioner with the heater/defroster, as a dehumidifier. yeah, i dont mind using it on defrost. average speeds on the highways and rural roads in montana are higher than in most places and since youre driving up hill in both directions the last thing i want to do is run my compressor if i dont need it. mileage and power are already somewhat lacking and i dont want to hinder it farther. -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: vent selector
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:424992EF.22B91A10@cox.net... > Hi Sandman, > Kalifornia new cars at least since my '78 Bronco have been using > the air conditioner with the heater/defroster, as a dehumidifier. yeah, i dont mind using it on defrost. average speeds on the highways and rural roads in montana are higher than in most places and since youre driving up hill in both directions the last thing i want to do is run my compressor if i dont need it. mileage and power are already somewhat lacking and i dont want to hinder it farther. -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: vent selector
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:424992EF.22B91A10@cox.net... > Hi Sandman, > Kalifornia new cars at least since my '78 Bronco have been using > the air conditioner with the heater/defroster, as a dehumidifier. yeah, i dont mind using it on defrost. average speeds on the highways and rural roads in montana are higher than in most places and since youre driving up hill in both directions the last thing i want to do is run my compressor if i dont need it. mileage and power are already somewhat lacking and i dont want to hinder it farther. -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: vent selector
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:38:18 -0700, Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> in my entire life i cannot remember ever wanting a/c blowing out of the dash > and floor vents simultaneously. > each montana winter day though, i want to > blow heat out of the dash and floor vents simultaneously. the TJ vent > selector is set up ass backwards, You got that right. DC forgot that the sole purpose of the vent selector is to select the -vents-! It is not for controlling any other aspect of the environment. > and id like to disconnect the compressor > from the combined dash/floor vent setting so that i could use that setting > for heat without running the compressor. I noticed that I can use that setting with the temp select on heat and get heat from both locations. However, I suspect the a/c compressor runs anyways. > ive never been behind the panel and i dont know what to expect. any > tips or recommendations on the best way of accomplishing this would > be appreciated. It seems like the controls are all electrical, no mechanical linkages like my old Escort had. As such it should be feasible to wire up your own custom set of controls with the proper separation between the various items being controlled. My service manual is supposed to arrive on Monday, so maybe the schematics in it will help with that. -D -- Consider what God has done: Who can straighten what He has made crooked? Ecclesiastes 7:13 www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org |
Re: vent selector
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:38:18 -0700, Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> in my entire life i cannot remember ever wanting a/c blowing out of the dash > and floor vents simultaneously. > each montana winter day though, i want to > blow heat out of the dash and floor vents simultaneously. the TJ vent > selector is set up ass backwards, You got that right. DC forgot that the sole purpose of the vent selector is to select the -vents-! It is not for controlling any other aspect of the environment. > and id like to disconnect the compressor > from the combined dash/floor vent setting so that i could use that setting > for heat without running the compressor. I noticed that I can use that setting with the temp select on heat and get heat from both locations. However, I suspect the a/c compressor runs anyways. > ive never been behind the panel and i dont know what to expect. any > tips or recommendations on the best way of accomplishing this would > be appreciated. It seems like the controls are all electrical, no mechanical linkages like my old Escort had. As such it should be feasible to wire up your own custom set of controls with the proper separation between the various items being controlled. My service manual is supposed to arrive on Monday, so maybe the schematics in it will help with that. -D -- Consider what God has done: Who can straighten what He has made crooked? Ecclesiastes 7:13 www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org |
Re: vent selector
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:38:18 -0700, Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> in my entire life i cannot remember ever wanting a/c blowing out of the dash > and floor vents simultaneously. > each montana winter day though, i want to > blow heat out of the dash and floor vents simultaneously. the TJ vent > selector is set up ass backwards, You got that right. DC forgot that the sole purpose of the vent selector is to select the -vents-! It is not for controlling any other aspect of the environment. > and id like to disconnect the compressor > from the combined dash/floor vent setting so that i could use that setting > for heat without running the compressor. I noticed that I can use that setting with the temp select on heat and get heat from both locations. However, I suspect the a/c compressor runs anyways. > ive never been behind the panel and i dont know what to expect. any > tips or recommendations on the best way of accomplishing this would > be appreciated. It seems like the controls are all electrical, no mechanical linkages like my old Escort had. As such it should be feasible to wire up your own custom set of controls with the proper separation between the various items being controlled. My service manual is supposed to arrive on Monday, so maybe the schematics in it will help with that. -D -- Consider what God has done: Who can straighten what He has made crooked? Ecclesiastes 7:13 www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org |
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why not leave it the way it is and turn the temp up to heat.....then it'd
be just like defrost mode, dehumidifying and heating? -- Message posted via http://www.carkb.com |
Re: vent selector
why not leave it the way it is and turn the temp up to heat.....then it'd
be just like defrost mode, dehumidifying and heating? -- Message posted via http://www.carkb.com |
Re: vent selector
why not leave it the way it is and turn the temp up to heat.....then it'd
be just like defrost mode, dehumidifying and heating? -- Message posted via http://www.carkb.com |
Re: vent selector
why not leave it the way it is and turn the temp up to heat.....then it'd
be just like defrost mode, dehumidifying and heating? -- Message posted via http://www.carkb.com |
Re: vent selector
Even in those vehicles, like Chevys, in defrost settings, the compressor
kicks in regardless whether the AC switch is on. Paul mabar wrote: > He does not want to run the AC compressor needlessly, and I agree. Many > vehicles have a separate button to activate (or not activate) the AC > compressor in any vent mode. Why this isn't on all vehicles with AC is > beyond me. > > Tom |
Re: vent selector
Even in those vehicles, like Chevys, in defrost settings, the compressor
kicks in regardless whether the AC switch is on. Paul mabar wrote: > He does not want to run the AC compressor needlessly, and I agree. Many > vehicles have a separate button to activate (or not activate) the AC > compressor in any vent mode. Why this isn't on all vehicles with AC is > beyond me. > > Tom |
Re: vent selector
Even in those vehicles, like Chevys, in defrost settings, the compressor
kicks in regardless whether the AC switch is on. Paul mabar wrote: > He does not want to run the AC compressor needlessly, and I agree. Many > vehicles have a separate button to activate (or not activate) the AC > compressor in any vent mode. Why this isn't on all vehicles with AC is > beyond me. > > Tom |
Re: vent selector
Even in those vehicles, like Chevys, in defrost settings, the compressor
kicks in regardless whether the AC switch is on. Paul mabar wrote: > He does not want to run the AC compressor needlessly, and I agree. Many > vehicles have a separate button to activate (or not activate) the AC > compressor in any vent mode. Why this isn't on all vehicles with AC is > beyond me. > > Tom |
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mabar wrote:
> He does not want to run the AC compressor needlessly, and I agree. Many > vehicles have a separate button to activate (or not activate) the AC > compressor in any vent mode. Why this isn't on all vehicles with AC is > beyond me. > Many vehicles WITH an A/C button still run it in defrost mode, even when the button is "OFF", you just don't know it. <G> FWIW, running the compressor in the off-season is actually good for it, and was often recommended in manuals before automatic A/C in defrost mode. Barry |
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mabar wrote:
> He does not want to run the AC compressor needlessly, and I agree. Many > vehicles have a separate button to activate (or not activate) the AC > compressor in any vent mode. Why this isn't on all vehicles with AC is > beyond me. > Many vehicles WITH an A/C button still run it in defrost mode, even when the button is "OFF", you just don't know it. <G> FWIW, running the compressor in the off-season is actually good for it, and was often recommended in manuals before automatic A/C in defrost mode. Barry |
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mabar wrote:
> He does not want to run the AC compressor needlessly, and I agree. Many > vehicles have a separate button to activate (or not activate) the AC > compressor in any vent mode. Why this isn't on all vehicles with AC is > beyond me. > Many vehicles WITH an A/C button still run it in defrost mode, even when the button is "OFF", you just don't know it. <G> FWIW, running the compressor in the off-season is actually good for it, and was often recommended in manuals before automatic A/C in defrost mode. Barry |
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mabar wrote:
> He does not want to run the AC compressor needlessly, and I agree. Many > vehicles have a separate button to activate (or not activate) the AC > compressor in any vent mode. Why this isn't on all vehicles with AC is > beyond me. > Many vehicles WITH an A/C button still run it in defrost mode, even when the button is "OFF", you just don't know it. <G> FWIW, running the compressor in the off-season is actually good for it, and was often recommended in manuals before automatic A/C in defrost mode. Barry |
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