Valve cover gasket 4.2
01-09-2006, 11:51 AM
#31
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Re: Valve cover gasket 4.2
That's a good point. My cover is the metal variety. Steel, not aluminum.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Jeff, if you have the plastic cover, your bolting method will snap it.
> If you have a bent metal one, that bolting method will split the cork
> gasket.
>
> I have seen both.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> All I've ever seen for my 4.2 (258 ci) is a cork gasket.
>>
>> I'd like to offer up the idea of bolting it down by starting at the back
>> of
>> the motor instead of the center and working to the ends. My reasoning is
>> that your VC is probably warped, and if you put it on a table and pressed
>> down on one end, the other end would rise off the table. Assuming this is
>> true, if you start in the middle (as the directions state), by the time
>> you
>> get to the end -- the rear end to be precise -- you are pulling the bolts
>> against the cover that is resisting being pulled down, and therefore it
>> fails to seat well against the gasket.
>>
>> The engine is raised a bit at the front, so all of the oil flows to the
>> back
>> (against the firewall) while draining to the bottom to be sucked up by
>> the
>> oil pump. If you start bolting the cover down at the rear, you will seal
>> the
>> part that is prone to leaking before you seal the other parts of the
>> cover.
>> Worst case is that the leak will move to the front of the motor, which is
>> higher than the rest of the motor, and not likely to leak.
>>
>> "johanb" <ollieb1oREMOVE@THIScs.com> wrote in message
>> news:IT2tf.50$Sw.4740@news.uswest.net...
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I tried to stop the oil leak on my valve cover gasket and re-installed
>> > it
>> > with silicone.(as advised in alldata)
>> >
>> > I guess that didn't work............
>> >
>> > Probably leaking even harder.
>> >
>> > Does anyone knows who sells gaskets that are not made of cork.
>> > I've seen they sell cork gaskets but just don't like cork.
>> >
>> > 88 wrangler 4.2
>> > Alu cover
>> >
>> > T.I.A.
>> >
>> > Johan
>> >
>> >
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43B69110.7E9247B9@sympatico.ca...
> Jeff, if you have the plastic cover, your bolting method will snap it.
> If you have a bent metal one, that bolting method will split the cork
> gasket.
>
> I have seen both.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> All I've ever seen for my 4.2 (258 ci) is a cork gasket.
>>
>> I'd like to offer up the idea of bolting it down by starting at the back
>> of
>> the motor instead of the center and working to the ends. My reasoning is
>> that your VC is probably warped, and if you put it on a table and pressed
>> down on one end, the other end would rise off the table. Assuming this is
>> true, if you start in the middle (as the directions state), by the time
>> you
>> get to the end -- the rear end to be precise -- you are pulling the bolts
>> against the cover that is resisting being pulled down, and therefore it
>> fails to seat well against the gasket.
>>
>> The engine is raised a bit at the front, so all of the oil flows to the
>> back
>> (against the firewall) while draining to the bottom to be sucked up by
>> the
>> oil pump. If you start bolting the cover down at the rear, you will seal
>> the
>> part that is prone to leaking before you seal the other parts of the
>> cover.
>> Worst case is that the leak will move to the front of the motor, which is
>> higher than the rest of the motor, and not likely to leak.
>>
>> "johanb" <ollieb1oREMOVE@THIScs.com> wrote in message
>> news:IT2tf.50$Sw.4740@news.uswest.net...
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I tried to stop the oil leak on my valve cover gasket and re-installed
>> > it
>> > with silicone.(as advised in alldata)
>> >
>> > I guess that didn't work............
>> >
>> > Probably leaking even harder.
>> >
>> > Does anyone knows who sells gaskets that are not made of cork.
>> > I've seen they sell cork gaskets but just don't like cork.
>> >
>> > 88 wrangler 4.2
>> > Alu cover
>> >
>> > T.I.A.
>> >
>> > Johan
>> >
>> >
01-09-2006, 11:57 AM
#32
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Re: Valve cover gasket 4.2
I just do them in stages to be safe. That long sucker is sneaky for the
rim bolts. By the time you zig zag out from the center to the ends, the
centers are loose again usually. When they all stay snug, I am happy.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> That's a good point. My cover is the metal variety. Steel, not aluminum.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43B69110.7E9247B9@sympatico.ca...
> > Jeff, if you have the plastic cover, your bolting method will snap it.
> > If you have a bent metal one, that bolting method will split the cork
> > gasket.
> >
> > I have seen both.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >>
> >> All I've ever seen for my 4.2 (258 ci) is a cork gasket.
> >>
> >> I'd like to offer up the idea of bolting it down by starting at the back
> >> of
> >> the motor instead of the center and working to the ends. My reasoning is
> >> that your VC is probably warped, and if you put it on a table and pressed
> >> down on one end, the other end would rise off the table. Assuming this is
> >> true, if you start in the middle (as the directions state), by the time
> >> you
> >> get to the end -- the rear end to be precise -- you are pulling the bolts
> >> against the cover that is resisting being pulled down, and therefore it
> >> fails to seat well against the gasket.
> >>
> >> The engine is raised a bit at the front, so all of the oil flows to the
> >> back
> >> (against the firewall) while draining to the bottom to be sucked up by
> >> the
> >> oil pump. If you start bolting the cover down at the rear, you will seal
> >> the
> >> part that is prone to leaking before you seal the other parts of the
> >> cover.
> >> Worst case is that the leak will move to the front of the motor, which is
> >> higher than the rest of the motor, and not likely to leak.
> >>
> >> "johanb" <ollieb1oREMOVE@THIScs.com> wrote in message
> >> news:IT2tf.50$Sw.4740@news.uswest.net...
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I tried to stop the oil leak on my valve cover gasket and re-installed
> >> > it
> >> > with silicone.(as advised in alldata)
> >> >
> >> > I guess that didn't work............
> >> >
> >> > Probably leaking even harder.
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone knows who sells gaskets that are not made of cork.
> >> > I've seen they sell cork gaskets but just don't like cork.
> >> >
> >> > 88 wrangler 4.2
> >> > Alu cover
> >> >
> >> > T.I.A.
> >> >
> >> > Johan
> >> >
> >> >
rim bolts. By the time you zig zag out from the center to the ends, the
centers are loose again usually. When they all stay snug, I am happy.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> That's a good point. My cover is the metal variety. Steel, not aluminum.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43B69110.7E9247B9@sympatico.ca...
> > Jeff, if you have the plastic cover, your bolting method will snap it.
> > If you have a bent metal one, that bolting method will split the cork
> > gasket.
> >
> > I have seen both.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >>
> >> All I've ever seen for my 4.2 (258 ci) is a cork gasket.
> >>
> >> I'd like to offer up the idea of bolting it down by starting at the back
> >> of
> >> the motor instead of the center and working to the ends. My reasoning is
> >> that your VC is probably warped, and if you put it on a table and pressed
> >> down on one end, the other end would rise off the table. Assuming this is
> >> true, if you start in the middle (as the directions state), by the time
> >> you
> >> get to the end -- the rear end to be precise -- you are pulling the bolts
> >> against the cover that is resisting being pulled down, and therefore it
> >> fails to seat well against the gasket.
> >>
> >> The engine is raised a bit at the front, so all of the oil flows to the
> >> back
> >> (against the firewall) while draining to the bottom to be sucked up by
> >> the
> >> oil pump. If you start bolting the cover down at the rear, you will seal
> >> the
> >> part that is prone to leaking before you seal the other parts of the
> >> cover.
> >> Worst case is that the leak will move to the front of the motor, which is
> >> higher than the rest of the motor, and not likely to leak.
> >>
> >> "johanb" <ollieb1oREMOVE@THIScs.com> wrote in message
> >> news:IT2tf.50$Sw.4740@news.uswest.net...
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I tried to stop the oil leak on my valve cover gasket and re-installed
> >> > it
> >> > with silicone.(as advised in alldata)
> >> >
> >> > I guess that didn't work............
> >> >
> >> > Probably leaking even harder.
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone knows who sells gaskets that are not made of cork.
> >> > I've seen they sell cork gaskets but just don't like cork.
> >> >
> >> > 88 wrangler 4.2
> >> > Alu cover
> >> >
> >> > T.I.A.
> >> >
> >> > Johan
> >> >
> >> >
01-09-2006, 11:57 AM
#33
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Posts: n/a
Re: Valve cover gasket 4.2
I just do them in stages to be safe. That long sucker is sneaky for the
rim bolts. By the time you zig zag out from the center to the ends, the
centers are loose again usually. When they all stay snug, I am happy.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> That's a good point. My cover is the metal variety. Steel, not aluminum.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43B69110.7E9247B9@sympatico.ca...
> > Jeff, if you have the plastic cover, your bolting method will snap it.
> > If you have a bent metal one, that bolting method will split the cork
> > gasket.
> >
> > I have seen both.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >>
> >> All I've ever seen for my 4.2 (258 ci) is a cork gasket.
> >>
> >> I'd like to offer up the idea of bolting it down by starting at the back
> >> of
> >> the motor instead of the center and working to the ends. My reasoning is
> >> that your VC is probably warped, and if you put it on a table and pressed
> >> down on one end, the other end would rise off the table. Assuming this is
> >> true, if you start in the middle (as the directions state), by the time
> >> you
> >> get to the end -- the rear end to be precise -- you are pulling the bolts
> >> against the cover that is resisting being pulled down, and therefore it
> >> fails to seat well against the gasket.
> >>
> >> The engine is raised a bit at the front, so all of the oil flows to the
> >> back
> >> (against the firewall) while draining to the bottom to be sucked up by
> >> the
> >> oil pump. If you start bolting the cover down at the rear, you will seal
> >> the
> >> part that is prone to leaking before you seal the other parts of the
> >> cover.
> >> Worst case is that the leak will move to the front of the motor, which is
> >> higher than the rest of the motor, and not likely to leak.
> >>
> >> "johanb" <ollieb1oREMOVE@THIScs.com> wrote in message
> >> news:IT2tf.50$Sw.4740@news.uswest.net...
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I tried to stop the oil leak on my valve cover gasket and re-installed
> >> > it
> >> > with silicone.(as advised in alldata)
> >> >
> >> > I guess that didn't work............
> >> >
> >> > Probably leaking even harder.
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone knows who sells gaskets that are not made of cork.
> >> > I've seen they sell cork gaskets but just don't like cork.
> >> >
> >> > 88 wrangler 4.2
> >> > Alu cover
> >> >
> >> > T.I.A.
> >> >
> >> > Johan
> >> >
> >> >
rim bolts. By the time you zig zag out from the center to the ends, the
centers are loose again usually. When they all stay snug, I am happy.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> That's a good point. My cover is the metal variety. Steel, not aluminum.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43B69110.7E9247B9@sympatico.ca...
> > Jeff, if you have the plastic cover, your bolting method will snap it.
> > If you have a bent metal one, that bolting method will split the cork
> > gasket.
> >
> > I have seen both.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >>
> >> All I've ever seen for my 4.2 (258 ci) is a cork gasket.
> >>
> >> I'd like to offer up the idea of bolting it down by starting at the back
> >> of
> >> the motor instead of the center and working to the ends. My reasoning is
> >> that your VC is probably warped, and if you put it on a table and pressed
> >> down on one end, the other end would rise off the table. Assuming this is
> >> true, if you start in the middle (as the directions state), by the time
> >> you
> >> get to the end -- the rear end to be precise -- you are pulling the bolts
> >> against the cover that is resisting being pulled down, and therefore it
> >> fails to seat well against the gasket.
> >>
> >> The engine is raised a bit at the front, so all of the oil flows to the
> >> back
> >> (against the firewall) while draining to the bottom to be sucked up by
> >> the
> >> oil pump. If you start bolting the cover down at the rear, you will seal
> >> the
> >> part that is prone to leaking before you seal the other parts of the
> >> cover.
> >> Worst case is that the leak will move to the front of the motor, which is
> >> higher than the rest of the motor, and not likely to leak.
> >>
> >> "johanb" <ollieb1oREMOVE@THIScs.com> wrote in message
> >> news:IT2tf.50$Sw.4740@news.uswest.net...
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I tried to stop the oil leak on my valve cover gasket and re-installed
> >> > it
> >> > with silicone.(as advised in alldata)
> >> >
> >> > I guess that didn't work............
> >> >
> >> > Probably leaking even harder.
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone knows who sells gaskets that are not made of cork.
> >> > I've seen they sell cork gaskets but just don't like cork.
> >> >
> >> > 88 wrangler 4.2
> >> > Alu cover
> >> >
> >> > T.I.A.
> >> >
> >> > Johan
> >> >
> >> >
01-09-2006, 11:57 AM
#34
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Posts: n/a
Re: Valve cover gasket 4.2
I just do them in stages to be safe. That long sucker is sneaky for the
rim bolts. By the time you zig zag out from the center to the ends, the
centers are loose again usually. When they all stay snug, I am happy.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> That's a good point. My cover is the metal variety. Steel, not aluminum.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43B69110.7E9247B9@sympatico.ca...
> > Jeff, if you have the plastic cover, your bolting method will snap it.
> > If you have a bent metal one, that bolting method will split the cork
> > gasket.
> >
> > I have seen both.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >>
> >> All I've ever seen for my 4.2 (258 ci) is a cork gasket.
> >>
> >> I'd like to offer up the idea of bolting it down by starting at the back
> >> of
> >> the motor instead of the center and working to the ends. My reasoning is
> >> that your VC is probably warped, and if you put it on a table and pressed
> >> down on one end, the other end would rise off the table. Assuming this is
> >> true, if you start in the middle (as the directions state), by the time
> >> you
> >> get to the end -- the rear end to be precise -- you are pulling the bolts
> >> against the cover that is resisting being pulled down, and therefore it
> >> fails to seat well against the gasket.
> >>
> >> The engine is raised a bit at the front, so all of the oil flows to the
> >> back
> >> (against the firewall) while draining to the bottom to be sucked up by
> >> the
> >> oil pump. If you start bolting the cover down at the rear, you will seal
> >> the
> >> part that is prone to leaking before you seal the other parts of the
> >> cover.
> >> Worst case is that the leak will move to the front of the motor, which is
> >> higher than the rest of the motor, and not likely to leak.
> >>
> >> "johanb" <ollieb1oREMOVE@THIScs.com> wrote in message
> >> news:IT2tf.50$Sw.4740@news.uswest.net...
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I tried to stop the oil leak on my valve cover gasket and re-installed
> >> > it
> >> > with silicone.(as advised in alldata)
> >> >
> >> > I guess that didn't work............
> >> >
> >> > Probably leaking even harder.
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone knows who sells gaskets that are not made of cork.
> >> > I've seen they sell cork gaskets but just don't like cork.
> >> >
> >> > 88 wrangler 4.2
> >> > Alu cover
> >> >
> >> > T.I.A.
> >> >
> >> > Johan
> >> >
> >> >
rim bolts. By the time you zig zag out from the center to the ends, the
centers are loose again usually. When they all stay snug, I am happy.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> That's a good point. My cover is the metal variety. Steel, not aluminum.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43B69110.7E9247B9@sympatico.ca...
> > Jeff, if you have the plastic cover, your bolting method will snap it.
> > If you have a bent metal one, that bolting method will split the cork
> > gasket.
> >
> > I have seen both.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >>
> >> All I've ever seen for my 4.2 (258 ci) is a cork gasket.
> >>
> >> I'd like to offer up the idea of bolting it down by starting at the back
> >> of
> >> the motor instead of the center and working to the ends. My reasoning is
> >> that your VC is probably warped, and if you put it on a table and pressed
> >> down on one end, the other end would rise off the table. Assuming this is
> >> true, if you start in the middle (as the directions state), by the time
> >> you
> >> get to the end -- the rear end to be precise -- you are pulling the bolts
> >> against the cover that is resisting being pulled down, and therefore it
> >> fails to seat well against the gasket.
> >>
> >> The engine is raised a bit at the front, so all of the oil flows to the
> >> back
> >> (against the firewall) while draining to the bottom to be sucked up by
> >> the
> >> oil pump. If you start bolting the cover down at the rear, you will seal
> >> the
> >> part that is prone to leaking before you seal the other parts of the
> >> cover.
> >> Worst case is that the leak will move to the front of the motor, which is
> >> higher than the rest of the motor, and not likely to leak.
> >>
> >> "johanb" <ollieb1oREMOVE@THIScs.com> wrote in message
> >> news:IT2tf.50$Sw.4740@news.uswest.net...
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I tried to stop the oil leak on my valve cover gasket and re-installed
> >> > it
> >> > with silicone.(as advised in alldata)
> >> >
> >> > I guess that didn't work............
> >> >
> >> > Probably leaking even harder.
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone knows who sells gaskets that are not made of cork.
> >> > I've seen they sell cork gaskets but just don't like cork.
> >> >
> >> > 88 wrangler 4.2
> >> > Alu cover
> >> >
> >> > T.I.A.
> >> >
> >> > Johan
> >> >
> >> >
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