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Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
What total garbage -- particularly in light of the chart NRS was so
kind to link. The preceding posts make it sound like comparing this "minivan" motor to the I-6 is akin to comparing a wicked, ill-tempered race motor and its street counterpart. So we've lost a bit of rotational inertia from the engine -- I'd put my money on a good driver any day over the _grand_ difference between these two powerplants. ...garage equivalent of armchair semantics...so let's talk about that really butch 4.0/4.2 .... is it more "Jeep", or is it, too, a grocery getter - just from AMC? Anybody care to comment on the huge flywheel effect or massive torque rise on a stock-engined a Samurai? Must make for a lousy crawler.... Jon |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
What total garbage -- particularly in light of the chart NRS was so
kind to link. The preceding posts make it sound like comparing this "minivan" motor to the I-6 is akin to comparing a wicked, ill-tempered race motor and its street counterpart. So we've lost a bit of rotational inertia from the engine -- I'd put my money on a good driver any day over the _grand_ difference between these two powerplants. ...garage equivalent of armchair semantics...so let's talk about that really butch 4.0/4.2 .... is it more "Jeep", or is it, too, a grocery getter - just from AMC? Anybody care to comment on the huge flywheel effect or massive torque rise on a stock-engined a Samurai? Must make for a lousy crawler.... Jon |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
What total garbage -- particularly in light of the chart NRS was so
kind to link. The preceding posts make it sound like comparing this "minivan" motor to the I-6 is akin to comparing a wicked, ill-tempered race motor and its street counterpart. So we've lost a bit of rotational inertia from the engine -- I'd put my money on a good driver any day over the _grand_ difference between these two powerplants. ...garage equivalent of armchair semantics...so let's talk about that really butch 4.0/4.2 .... is it more "Jeep", or is it, too, a grocery getter - just from AMC? Anybody care to comment on the huge flywheel effect or massive torque rise on a stock-engined a Samurai? Must make for a lousy crawler.... Jon |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! How is it that you can be so...... STUPID and still live, come on Darwin!!!! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.10.25.19.29.17.576970@trepanation.ca lm... > > You don't know what a target is? > > And you claim to have a CCW? (temporarily, if at all) > > Ask a child about 7-years-old what a target is, and they'll explain it to > you in language you'll almost be able to comprehend. > > BTW, do you know what a 'barn-door' is? You should since you were whelped > behind one. > > [phr gur erthyne ebhgvar] > > -- -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! How is it that you can be so...... STUPID and still live, come on Darwin!!!! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.10.25.19.29.17.576970@trepanation.ca lm... > > You don't know what a target is? > > And you claim to have a CCW? (temporarily, if at all) > > Ask a child about 7-years-old what a target is, and they'll explain it to > you in language you'll almost be able to comprehend. > > BTW, do you know what a 'barn-door' is? You should since you were whelped > behind one. > > [phr gur erthyne ebhgvar] > > -- -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! How is it that you can be so...... STUPID and still live, come on Darwin!!!! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.10.25.19.29.17.576970@trepanation.ca lm... > > You don't know what a target is? > > And you claim to have a CCW? (temporarily, if at all) > > Ask a child about 7-years-old what a target is, and they'll explain it to > you in language you'll almost be able to comprehend. > > BTW, do you know what a 'barn-door' is? You should since you were whelped > behind one. > > [phr gur erthyne ebhgvar] > > -- -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
Cool. Let us know the real outcome. Not what a bought and paid for
magazine would print. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1193351380.205139.269050@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... > > It could be lying but supposedly it is a chart that is not generally > made available to the public. Who knows? What I can say is that > some local guys who had Yjs and TJs and then bought JKs are pretty > happy with them. A shootout was organized locally to test the TJ > rubicon and the JK rubicon on the same day, same obstacles, etc and > the JK was declared to be the clear winner. Another shootout was > organized to compare the TJ rubicon with a Toyota FJ cruiser and the > cruiser had to abort because the control arms were getting bent just > from the flexing! > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
Cool. Let us know the real outcome. Not what a bought and paid for
magazine would print. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1193351380.205139.269050@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... > > It could be lying but supposedly it is a chart that is not generally > made available to the public. Who knows? What I can say is that > some local guys who had Yjs and TJs and then bought JKs are pretty > happy with them. A shootout was organized locally to test the TJ > rubicon and the JK rubicon on the same day, same obstacles, etc and > the JK was declared to be the clear winner. Another shootout was > organized to compare the TJ rubicon with a Toyota FJ cruiser and the > cruiser had to abort because the control arms were getting bent just > from the flexing! > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
Cool. Let us know the real outcome. Not what a bought and paid for
magazine would print. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1193351380.205139.269050@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... > > It could be lying but supposedly it is a chart that is not generally > made available to the public. Who knows? What I can say is that > some local guys who had Yjs and TJs and then bought JKs are pretty > happy with them. A shootout was organized locally to test the TJ > rubicon and the JK rubicon on the same day, same obstacles, etc and > the JK was declared to be the clear winner. Another shootout was > organized to compare the TJ rubicon with a Toyota FJ cruiser and the > cruiser had to abort because the control arms were getting bent just > from the flexing! > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
Sucker.
But the fifty pound flywheel like used on the Buick V6 to allow it to idle did have a secondary advantage of storing inertia energy. Your V6 won't have it as also eats gasoline. But you may buy them for the wimpy four bangers. And of course we all know of the go quick small block, thirteen pound wheel, and it's rough idle. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1193351840.169021.31780@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com... > What total garbage -- particularly in light of the chart NRS was so > kind to link. The preceding posts make it sound like comparing this > "minivan" motor to the I-6 is akin to comparing a wicked, ill-tempered > race motor and its street counterpart. So we've lost a bit of > rotational inertia from the engine -- I'd put my money on a good > driver any day over the _grand_ difference between these two > powerplants. ...garage equivalent of armchair semantics...so let's > talk about that really butch 4.0/4.2 .... is it more "Jeep", or is it, > too, a grocery getter - just from AMC? > > Anybody care to comment on the huge flywheel effect or massive torque > rise on a stock-engined a Samurai? Must make for a lousy crawler.... > > > Jon > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
Sucker.
But the fifty pound flywheel like used on the Buick V6 to allow it to idle did have a secondary advantage of storing inertia energy. Your V6 won't have it as also eats gasoline. But you may buy them for the wimpy four bangers. And of course we all know of the go quick small block, thirteen pound wheel, and it's rough idle. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1193351840.169021.31780@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com... > What total garbage -- particularly in light of the chart NRS was so > kind to link. The preceding posts make it sound like comparing this > "minivan" motor to the I-6 is akin to comparing a wicked, ill-tempered > race motor and its street counterpart. So we've lost a bit of > rotational inertia from the engine -- I'd put my money on a good > driver any day over the _grand_ difference between these two > powerplants. ...garage equivalent of armchair semantics...so let's > talk about that really butch 4.0/4.2 .... is it more "Jeep", or is it, > too, a grocery getter - just from AMC? > > Anybody care to comment on the huge flywheel effect or massive torque > rise on a stock-engined a Samurai? Must make for a lousy crawler.... > > > Jon > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
Sucker.
But the fifty pound flywheel like used on the Buick V6 to allow it to idle did have a secondary advantage of storing inertia energy. Your V6 won't have it as also eats gasoline. But you may buy them for the wimpy four bangers. And of course we all know of the go quick small block, thirteen pound wheel, and it's rough idle. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1193351840.169021.31780@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com... > What total garbage -- particularly in light of the chart NRS was so > kind to link. The preceding posts make it sound like comparing this > "minivan" motor to the I-6 is akin to comparing a wicked, ill-tempered > race motor and its street counterpart. So we've lost a bit of > rotational inertia from the engine -- I'd put my money on a good > driver any day over the _grand_ difference between these two > powerplants. ...garage equivalent of armchair semantics...so let's > talk about that really butch 4.0/4.2 .... is it more "Jeep", or is it, > too, a grocery getter - just from AMC? > > Anybody care to comment on the huge flywheel effect or massive torque > rise on a stock-engined a Samurai? Must make for a lousy crawler.... > > > Jon > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1193326015.528981.268800@o38g2000hse.googlegr oups.com... > On Oct 25, 9:40 am, "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screws...@comcast.net> > wrote: >> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by >> Mitsubushi. >> Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's >> used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time. > > JP Magazine published a torque and HP curve chart from an independent > dyno test showing both the 4.0 and the new 3.8. The curves are just > about exactly the same util up high in RPM, then the 3.8 has a bit > more torque and hp. I have also read that it takes about 5000 miles > to break into this level of performance so in test drives of new > vehicles the engine tends to feel sluggish. > > Actually, on paper, the torque curve of the 4.0 is crappy compared to > the 258 and even the old L and F head engines in terms of peak torque > RPM. However, in practice, jeepers love the 4.0. > Part of the consideration to this conversation should probably be made to the weight of the vehicles as well. The Unlimited JK weighs a full 1000 lbs more than my YJ. The weight difference in the two I'm sure is what really gave the JK a sluggish feel when I drove it and not so much even the V6. I'm willing to bet that the 3.8V6 can do just as well offroad as the 2.5L4 has been doing for people in their Jeeps. |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1193326015.528981.268800@o38g2000hse.googlegr oups.com... > On Oct 25, 9:40 am, "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screws...@comcast.net> > wrote: >> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by >> Mitsubushi. >> Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's >> used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time. > > JP Magazine published a torque and HP curve chart from an independent > dyno test showing both the 4.0 and the new 3.8. The curves are just > about exactly the same util up high in RPM, then the 3.8 has a bit > more torque and hp. I have also read that it takes about 5000 miles > to break into this level of performance so in test drives of new > vehicles the engine tends to feel sluggish. > > Actually, on paper, the torque curve of the 4.0 is crappy compared to > the 258 and even the old L and F head engines in terms of peak torque > RPM. However, in practice, jeepers love the 4.0. > Part of the consideration to this conversation should probably be made to the weight of the vehicles as well. The Unlimited JK weighs a full 1000 lbs more than my YJ. The weight difference in the two I'm sure is what really gave the JK a sluggish feel when I drove it and not so much even the V6. I'm willing to bet that the 3.8V6 can do just as well offroad as the 2.5L4 has been doing for people in their Jeeps. |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1193326015.528981.268800@o38g2000hse.googlegr oups.com... > On Oct 25, 9:40 am, "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screws...@comcast.net> > wrote: >> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by >> Mitsubushi. >> Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's >> used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time. > > JP Magazine published a torque and HP curve chart from an independent > dyno test showing both the 4.0 and the new 3.8. The curves are just > about exactly the same util up high in RPM, then the 3.8 has a bit > more torque and hp. I have also read that it takes about 5000 miles > to break into this level of performance so in test drives of new > vehicles the engine tends to feel sluggish. > > Actually, on paper, the torque curve of the 4.0 is crappy compared to > the 258 and even the old L and F head engines in terms of peak torque > RPM. However, in practice, jeepers love the 4.0. > Part of the consideration to this conversation should probably be made to the weight of the vehicles as well. The Unlimited JK weighs a full 1000 lbs more than my YJ. The weight difference in the two I'm sure is what really gave the JK a sluggish feel when I drove it and not so much even the V6. I'm willing to bet that the 3.8V6 can do just as well offroad as the 2.5L4 has been doing for people in their Jeeps. |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
I'm not the least bit "worried" about it - just curious. I've owned six
Wranglers, starting with a CJ5. And I liked all of 'em. The one I traded in on the new one was an '03 Sport. And it was a terrific performer. But I like the '08 far better than any of them - off or on road, but admitedly especially on road. With the six-speed transmission and a really down-in-the-basement 1st and 2nd gears, it's a ball to drive anywhere. And the torque and horsepower curves seem to sum up everything very well. "ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1193328132.195782.236980@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com... > On Oct 25, 7:40 am, "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screws...@comcast.net> > wrote: >> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by >> Mitsubushi. >> Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's >> used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time. > > since you already own the vehicle, why worry about it? Especially if > you just bought it with the lifetime warranty. > > |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
I'm not the least bit "worried" about it - just curious. I've owned six
Wranglers, starting with a CJ5. And I liked all of 'em. The one I traded in on the new one was an '03 Sport. And it was a terrific performer. But I like the '08 far better than any of them - off or on road, but admitedly especially on road. With the six-speed transmission and a really down-in-the-basement 1st and 2nd gears, it's a ball to drive anywhere. And the torque and horsepower curves seem to sum up everything very well. "ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1193328132.195782.236980@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com... > On Oct 25, 7:40 am, "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screws...@comcast.net> > wrote: >> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by >> Mitsubushi. >> Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's >> used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time. > > since you already own the vehicle, why worry about it? Especially if > you just bought it with the lifetime warranty. > > |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
I'm not the least bit "worried" about it - just curious. I've owned six
Wranglers, starting with a CJ5. And I liked all of 'em. The one I traded in on the new one was an '03 Sport. And it was a terrific performer. But I like the '08 far better than any of them - off or on road, but admitedly especially on road. With the six-speed transmission and a really down-in-the-basement 1st and 2nd gears, it's a ball to drive anywhere. And the torque and horsepower curves seem to sum up everything very well. "ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1193328132.195782.236980@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com... > On Oct 25, 7:40 am, "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screws...@comcast.net> > wrote: >> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by >> Mitsubushi. >> Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's >> used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time. > > since you already own the vehicle, why worry about it? Especially if > you just bought it with the lifetime warranty. > > |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
On Oct 25, 5:49 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBillHug...@------.net> wrote: > Cool. Let us know the real outcome. Not what a bought and paid for > magazine would print. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/ > > "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1193351380.205139.269050@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... > > > > > It could be lying but supposedly it is a chart that is not generally > > made available to the public. Who knows? What I can say is that > > some local guys who had Yjs and TJs and then bought JKs are pretty > > happy with them. A shootout was organized locally to test the TJ > > rubicon and the JK rubicon on the same day, same obstacles, etc and > > the JK was declared to be the clear winner. Another shootout was > > organized to compare the TJ rubicon with a Toyota FJ cruiser and the > > cruiser had to abort because the control arms were getting bent just > > from the flexing! > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Here is the link. It is in Spanish so not everyone here will understand but the general consensus was that the JK did a bit better. You will see from the pictures that it was tough terrain and the vehicles were used hard. http://www.jeeperos.com/foros/showth...paracion+TJ+JK |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
On Oct 25, 5:49 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBillHug...@------.net> wrote: > Cool. Let us know the real outcome. Not what a bought and paid for > magazine would print. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/ > > "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1193351380.205139.269050@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... > > > > > It could be lying but supposedly it is a chart that is not generally > > made available to the public. Who knows? What I can say is that > > some local guys who had Yjs and TJs and then bought JKs are pretty > > happy with them. A shootout was organized locally to test the TJ > > rubicon and the JK rubicon on the same day, same obstacles, etc and > > the JK was declared to be the clear winner. Another shootout was > > organized to compare the TJ rubicon with a Toyota FJ cruiser and the > > cruiser had to abort because the control arms were getting bent just > > from the flexing! > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Here is the link. It is in Spanish so not everyone here will understand but the general consensus was that the JK did a bit better. You will see from the pictures that it was tough terrain and the vehicles were used hard. http://www.jeeperos.com/foros/showth...paracion+TJ+JK |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
On Oct 25, 5:49 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBillHug...@------.net> wrote: > Cool. Let us know the real outcome. Not what a bought and paid for > magazine would print. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/ > > "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1193351380.205139.269050@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... > > > > > It could be lying but supposedly it is a chart that is not generally > > made available to the public. Who knows? What I can say is that > > some local guys who had Yjs and TJs and then bought JKs are pretty > > happy with them. A shootout was organized locally to test the TJ > > rubicon and the JK rubicon on the same day, same obstacles, etc and > > the JK was declared to be the clear winner. Another shootout was > > organized to compare the TJ rubicon with a Toyota FJ cruiser and the > > cruiser had to abort because the control arms were getting bent just > > from the flexing! > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Here is the link. It is in Spanish so not everyone here will understand but the general consensus was that the JK did a bit better. You will see from the pictures that it was tough terrain and the vehicles were used hard. http://www.jeeperos.com/foros/showth...paracion+TJ+JK |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
My '08 X weighs 310 pounds more than the '03 Sport I traded in.
"Raptor" <I_AM_Raptor@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:13i293dch9nhf3@corp.supernews.com... > > "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1193326015.528981.268800@o38g2000hse.googlegr oups.com... >> On Oct 25, 9:40 am, "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screws...@comcast.net> >> wrote: >>> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by >>> Mitsubushi. >>> Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's >>> used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time. >> >> JP Magazine published a torque and HP curve chart from an independent >> dyno test showing both the 4.0 and the new 3.8. The curves are just >> about exactly the same util up high in RPM, then the 3.8 has a bit >> more torque and hp. I have also read that it takes about 5000 miles >> to break into this level of performance so in test drives of new >> vehicles the engine tends to feel sluggish. >> >> Actually, on paper, the torque curve of the 4.0 is crappy compared to >> the 258 and even the old L and F head engines in terms of peak torque >> RPM. However, in practice, jeepers love the 4.0. >> > > Part of the consideration to this conversation should probably be made to > the weight of the vehicles as well. The Unlimited JK weighs a full 1000 > lbs more than my YJ. The weight difference in the two I'm sure is what > really gave the JK a sluggish feel when I drove it and not so much even > the V6. I'm willing to bet that the 3.8V6 can do just as well offroad as > the 2.5L4 has been doing for people in their Jeeps. > |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
My '08 X weighs 310 pounds more than the '03 Sport I traded in.
"Raptor" <I_AM_Raptor@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:13i293dch9nhf3@corp.supernews.com... > > "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1193326015.528981.268800@o38g2000hse.googlegr oups.com... >> On Oct 25, 9:40 am, "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screws...@comcast.net> >> wrote: >>> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by >>> Mitsubushi. >>> Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's >>> used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time. >> >> JP Magazine published a torque and HP curve chart from an independent >> dyno test showing both the 4.0 and the new 3.8. The curves are just >> about exactly the same util up high in RPM, then the 3.8 has a bit >> more torque and hp. I have also read that it takes about 5000 miles >> to break into this level of performance so in test drives of new >> vehicles the engine tends to feel sluggish. >> >> Actually, on paper, the torque curve of the 4.0 is crappy compared to >> the 258 and even the old L and F head engines in terms of peak torque >> RPM. However, in practice, jeepers love the 4.0. >> > > Part of the consideration to this conversation should probably be made to > the weight of the vehicles as well. The Unlimited JK weighs a full 1000 > lbs more than my YJ. The weight difference in the two I'm sure is what > really gave the JK a sluggish feel when I drove it and not so much even > the V6. I'm willing to bet that the 3.8V6 can do just as well offroad as > the 2.5L4 has been doing for people in their Jeeps. > |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
My '08 X weighs 310 pounds more than the '03 Sport I traded in.
"Raptor" <I_AM_Raptor@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:13i293dch9nhf3@corp.supernews.com... > > "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1193326015.528981.268800@o38g2000hse.googlegr oups.com... >> On Oct 25, 9:40 am, "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screws...@comcast.net> >> wrote: >>> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by >>> Mitsubushi. >>> Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's >>> used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time. >> >> JP Magazine published a torque and HP curve chart from an independent >> dyno test showing both the 4.0 and the new 3.8. The curves are just >> about exactly the same util up high in RPM, then the 3.8 has a bit >> more torque and hp. I have also read that it takes about 5000 miles >> to break into this level of performance so in test drives of new >> vehicles the engine tends to feel sluggish. >> >> Actually, on paper, the torque curve of the 4.0 is crappy compared to >> the 258 and even the old L and F head engines in terms of peak torque >> RPM. However, in practice, jeepers love the 4.0. >> > > Part of the consideration to this conversation should probably be made to > the weight of the vehicles as well. The Unlimited JK weighs a full 1000 > lbs more than my YJ. The weight difference in the two I'm sure is what > really gave the JK a sluggish feel when I drove it and not so much even > the V6. I'm willing to bet that the 3.8V6 can do just as well offroad as > the 2.5L4 has been doing for people in their Jeeps. > |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:40:01 -0500, "Jack Carter"
<jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote: >A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by Mitsubushi. >Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's >used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time. > yes it's a mini-van motor but it isn't produced by Mitsu - in fact Chrysler has run a Mitsu motor in more than a few years (the last i remember was in the Sebring two generations past). this is a 60 degree cast iron block push rod motor and while it is more free revving and has a higher red line than the 4.0, it is tuned for low rpm torque. mini-van moms appreciate the same driving characteristics that jeepers do ... torquey off the line, smooth idle, good tip in response, not peaky or pipey torque and hp curves. a good source or information on JKs is found on Allpar.com http://www.allpar.com/model/jeep/wrangler.html reboot --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 071025-1, 10/25/2007 Tested on: 10/25/2007 8:52:07 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:40:01 -0500, "Jack Carter"
<jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote: >A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by Mitsubushi. >Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's >used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time. > yes it's a mini-van motor but it isn't produced by Mitsu - in fact Chrysler has run a Mitsu motor in more than a few years (the last i remember was in the Sebring two generations past). this is a 60 degree cast iron block push rod motor and while it is more free revving and has a higher red line than the 4.0, it is tuned for low rpm torque. mini-van moms appreciate the same driving characteristics that jeepers do ... torquey off the line, smooth idle, good tip in response, not peaky or pipey torque and hp curves. a good source or information on JKs is found on Allpar.com http://www.allpar.com/model/jeep/wrangler.html reboot --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 071025-1, 10/25/2007 Tested on: 10/25/2007 8:52:07 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:40:01 -0500, "Jack Carter"
<jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote: >A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by Mitsubushi. >Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's >used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time. > yes it's a mini-van motor but it isn't produced by Mitsu - in fact Chrysler has run a Mitsu motor in more than a few years (the last i remember was in the Sebring two generations past). this is a 60 degree cast iron block push rod motor and while it is more free revving and has a higher red line than the 4.0, it is tuned for low rpm torque. mini-van moms appreciate the same driving characteristics that jeepers do ... torquey off the line, smooth idle, good tip in response, not peaky or pipey torque and hp curves. a good source or information on JKs is found on Allpar.com http://www.allpar.com/model/jeep/wrangler.html reboot --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 071025-1, 10/25/2007 Tested on: 10/25/2007 8:52:07 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
I didn't see anything my '57 T-Bird couldn't easily drive. Look around
Jennifer's page for what a Jeep's made for: http://jbjeep.terahex.com/ God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1193355512.567970.14870@57g2000hsv.googlegrou ps.com... > > Here is the link. It is in Spanish so not everyone here will > understand but the general consensus was that the JK did a bit > better. You will see from the pictures that it was tough terrain and > the vehicles were used hard. > > http://www.jeeperos.com/foros/showth...paracion+TJ+JK > |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
I didn't see anything my '57 T-Bird couldn't easily drive. Look around
Jennifer's page for what a Jeep's made for: http://jbjeep.terahex.com/ God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1193355512.567970.14870@57g2000hsv.googlegrou ps.com... > > Here is the link. It is in Spanish so not everyone here will > understand but the general consensus was that the JK did a bit > better. You will see from the pictures that it was tough terrain and > the vehicles were used hard. > > http://www.jeeperos.com/foros/showth...paracion+TJ+JK > |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
I didn't see anything my '57 T-Bird couldn't easily drive. Look around
Jennifer's page for what a Jeep's made for: http://jbjeep.terahex.com/ God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1193355512.567970.14870@57g2000hsv.googlegrou ps.com... > > Here is the link. It is in Spanish so not everyone here will > understand but the general consensus was that the JK did a bit > better. You will see from the pictures that it was tough terrain and > the vehicles were used hard. > > http://www.jeeperos.com/foros/showth...paracion+TJ+JK > |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:02:14 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I didn't see anything my '57 T-Bird couldn't easily drive. Bwahahahahaha! That Turkeybird can't get out of the garage without a tow. -- "I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups." -- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2) -- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:02:14 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I didn't see anything my '57 T-Bird couldn't easily drive. Bwahahahahaha! That Turkeybird can't get out of the garage without a tow. -- "I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups." -- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2) -- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:02:14 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I didn't see anything my '57 T-Bird couldn't easily drive. Bwahahahahaha! That Turkeybird can't get out of the garage without a tow. -- "I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups." -- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2) -- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! God, why do these stupid queer traitors keep following me around? Just one of my possessions you'll never afford, and are jealous of: http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.10.25.23.19.07.740405@trepanation.ca lm... > > Bwahahahahaha! That Turkeybird can't get out of the garage without a tow. > > > > -- |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! God, why do these stupid queer traitors keep following me around? Just one of my possessions you'll never afford, and are jealous of: http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.10.25.23.19.07.740405@trepanation.ca lm... > > Bwahahahahaha! That Turkeybird can't get out of the garage without a tow. > > > > -- |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! God, why do these stupid queer traitors keep following me around? Just one of my possessions you'll never afford, and are jealous of: http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.10.25.23.19.07.740405@trepanation.ca lm... > > Bwahahahahaha! That Turkeybird can't get out of the garage without a tow. > > > > -- |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:23:45 -0700, Lard Wad (Billieboi) ------ da Turd
attempted to write. > Just one of my possessions you'll never afford Wrong-o, Billieboi, unless you're trying to sell that cheap-heap for $10 million. > and are jealous of I am jealous of NOTHING, yours or anyone else's. Never have been, never will be. Have no idea what jealousy even feels like. And in your specific case, I could only feel revulsion and repugnance. > http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm Seen it, and it's a hilarious gutted POS! And I never accept cookies from the strange and stranger. Fact is -- and nearly everyone knows it -- you are the one who is jealous of everyone and everything. That's because you have nothing of any true value and because you /are/ so very little, in so many ways. Now, pick up your cue..... tevf tevf, Tenaqr Orrqè -- "I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups." -- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2) -- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:23:45 -0700, Lard Wad (Billieboi) ------ da Turd
attempted to write. > Just one of my possessions you'll never afford Wrong-o, Billieboi, unless you're trying to sell that cheap-heap for $10 million. > and are jealous of I am jealous of NOTHING, yours or anyone else's. Never have been, never will be. Have no idea what jealousy even feels like. And in your specific case, I could only feel revulsion and repugnance. > http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm Seen it, and it's a hilarious gutted POS! And I never accept cookies from the strange and stranger. Fact is -- and nearly everyone knows it -- you are the one who is jealous of everyone and everything. That's because you have nothing of any true value and because you /are/ so very little, in so many ways. Now, pick up your cue..... tevf tevf, Tenaqr Orrqè -- "I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups." -- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2) -- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:23:45 -0700, Lard Wad (Billieboi) ------ da Turd
attempted to write. > Just one of my possessions you'll never afford Wrong-o, Billieboi, unless you're trying to sell that cheap-heap for $10 million. > and are jealous of I am jealous of NOTHING, yours or anyone else's. Never have been, never will be. Have no idea what jealousy even feels like. And in your specific case, I could only feel revulsion and repugnance. > http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm Seen it, and it's a hilarious gutted POS! And I never accept cookies from the strange and stranger. Fact is -- and nearly everyone knows it -- you are the one who is jealous of everyone and everything. That's because you have nothing of any true value and because you /are/ so very little, in so many ways. Now, pick up your cue..... tevf tevf, Tenaqr Orrqè -- "I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups." -- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2) -- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer |
Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! God, why do these stupid queer traitors keep following me around? I repeat as your answers make my laugh: " Just one of my possessions you'll never afford, and are jealous of: http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm " <ROTFLMAO> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.10.26.00.06.05.141319@trepanation.ca lm... > > Wrong-o, Billieboi, unless you're trying to sell that cheap-heap for $10 > million. > > I am jealous of NOTHING, yours or anyone else's. > > Never have been, never will be. Have no idea what jealousy even feels > like. > > And in your specific case, I could only feel revulsion and repugnance. > > Seen it, and it's a hilarious gutted POS! > > And I never accept cookies from the strange and stranger. > > Fact is -- and nearly everyone knows it -- you are the one who is jealous > of everyone and everything. > > That's because you have nothing of any true value and because you /are/ so > very little, in so many ways. > > Now, pick up your cue..... > > tevf tevf, Tenaqr Orrqè > > > -- -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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