Use spare or buy new tires?
06-02-2005, 11:45 PM
#21
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Re: Use spare or buy new tires?
Or ball joints.
Will Honea wrote:
> Bad shocks can do this as well.
>
> On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 19:58:04 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I would likely just buy 3 and use the best old one for a spare. That
>>way you don't end up with a UV damaged spare eventually.
>>
>>Every second lug worn is normally a balance issue. It can be called
>>'scalloped'.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>batlinsj@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>Wow, I haven't posted on here in ages...
>>>I am coming to the point where I need to buy new tires.. I have the
>>>Procomp MT 33x12.5 and have 40K miles on them... There was a mishap
>>>about 20k miles in where I got my spare tire stolen so I have a brand
>>>new tire on the back of my jeep that has never been used.. now I will
>>>have to buy 4 new tires or I can buy 3 new ones and just use the best
>>>worn tire for my spare... anyone have any thoughts on this?
>>>
>>>Also.. What would cause a tire to wear in a way that would wear down
>>>every other lug twice as fast? I checked my alignment and it is within
>>>range.... it is very weird and only happens on the driver side.. I
>>>have every other lug worn to the wear bar but the others have about a
>>>1/4 inch of the Lug left... thoughts?
>>>
>>>Thanks a bunch
>>>Kurt
>>>01' TJ 3inch Teraflex
>
>
>
Will Honea wrote:
> Bad shocks can do this as well.
>
> On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 19:58:04 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I would likely just buy 3 and use the best old one for a spare. That
>>way you don't end up with a UV damaged spare eventually.
>>
>>Every second lug worn is normally a balance issue. It can be called
>>'scalloped'.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>batlinsj@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>Wow, I haven't posted on here in ages...
>>>I am coming to the point where I need to buy new tires.. I have the
>>>Procomp MT 33x12.5 and have 40K miles on them... There was a mishap
>>>about 20k miles in where I got my spare tire stolen so I have a brand
>>>new tire on the back of my jeep that has never been used.. now I will
>>>have to buy 4 new tires or I can buy 3 new ones and just use the best
>>>worn tire for my spare... anyone have any thoughts on this?
>>>
>>>Also.. What would cause a tire to wear in a way that would wear down
>>>every other lug twice as fast? I checked my alignment and it is within
>>>range.... it is very weird and only happens on the driver side.. I
>>>have every other lug worn to the wear bar but the others have about a
>>>1/4 inch of the Lug left... thoughts?
>>>
>>>Thanks a bunch
>>>Kurt
>>>01' TJ 3inch Teraflex
>
>
>
06-03-2005, 12:29 AM
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Re: Use spare or buy new tires?
definately weak shock absorbers and balancing. Also, I know this is a
problem that shows up on mud tires quicker than other tires when ran on the
street. Especially on BFG MUD'S. They have excellent traction, but one
reason is they have different rubber compounds for different lugs. They
have a softer rubber on every other lug, which will cause normal cupping,
but if you have a bad shock or imbalance, it'll really cause you a
headache. I'd replace both front shocks with new, replace your tires
buying 3 and keeping the best old one as a spare, then have an alignment
done. I've always got an alignment done when replacing my tires with new.
Doesn't cost that much, and corrects for any worn suspention parts so I
don't ruin a new set of tires......You could even buy 4 new tires of a
different brand, and keep your spare you have as a spare.....
--
Robb
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problem that shows up on mud tires quicker than other tires when ran on the
street. Especially on BFG MUD'S. They have excellent traction, but one
reason is they have different rubber compounds for different lugs. They
have a softer rubber on every other lug, which will cause normal cupping,
but if you have a bad shock or imbalance, it'll really cause you a
headache. I'd replace both front shocks with new, replace your tires
buying 3 and keeping the best old one as a spare, then have an alignment
done. I've always got an alignment done when replacing my tires with new.
Doesn't cost that much, and corrects for any worn suspention parts so I
don't ruin a new set of tires......You could even buy 4 new tires of a
different brand, and keep your spare you have as a spare.....
--
Robb
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06-03-2005, 12:29 AM
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Re: Use spare or buy new tires?
definately weak shock absorbers and balancing. Also, I know this is a
problem that shows up on mud tires quicker than other tires when ran on the
street. Especially on BFG MUD'S. They have excellent traction, but one
reason is they have different rubber compounds for different lugs. They
have a softer rubber on every other lug, which will cause normal cupping,
but if you have a bad shock or imbalance, it'll really cause you a
headache. I'd replace both front shocks with new, replace your tires
buying 3 and keeping the best old one as a spare, then have an alignment
done. I've always got an alignment done when replacing my tires with new.
Doesn't cost that much, and corrects for any worn suspention parts so I
don't ruin a new set of tires......You could even buy 4 new tires of a
different brand, and keep your spare you have as a spare.....
--
Robb
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http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1
problem that shows up on mud tires quicker than other tires when ran on the
street. Especially on BFG MUD'S. They have excellent traction, but one
reason is they have different rubber compounds for different lugs. They
have a softer rubber on every other lug, which will cause normal cupping,
but if you have a bad shock or imbalance, it'll really cause you a
headache. I'd replace both front shocks with new, replace your tires
buying 3 and keeping the best old one as a spare, then have an alignment
done. I've always got an alignment done when replacing my tires with new.
Doesn't cost that much, and corrects for any worn suspention parts so I
don't ruin a new set of tires......You could even buy 4 new tires of a
different brand, and keep your spare you have as a spare.....
--
Robb
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06-03-2005, 12:29 AM
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Re: Use spare or buy new tires?
definately weak shock absorbers and balancing. Also, I know this is a
problem that shows up on mud tires quicker than other tires when ran on the
street. Especially on BFG MUD'S. They have excellent traction, but one
reason is they have different rubber compounds for different lugs. They
have a softer rubber on every other lug, which will cause normal cupping,
but if you have a bad shock or imbalance, it'll really cause you a
headache. I'd replace both front shocks with new, replace your tires
buying 3 and keeping the best old one as a spare, then have an alignment
done. I've always got an alignment done when replacing my tires with new.
Doesn't cost that much, and corrects for any worn suspention parts so I
don't ruin a new set of tires......You could even buy 4 new tires of a
different brand, and keep your spare you have as a spare.....
--
Robb
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http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1
problem that shows up on mud tires quicker than other tires when ran on the
street. Especially on BFG MUD'S. They have excellent traction, but one
reason is they have different rubber compounds for different lugs. They
have a softer rubber on every other lug, which will cause normal cupping,
but if you have a bad shock or imbalance, it'll really cause you a
headache. I'd replace both front shocks with new, replace your tires
buying 3 and keeping the best old one as a spare, then have an alignment
done. I've always got an alignment done when replacing my tires with new.
Doesn't cost that much, and corrects for any worn suspention parts so I
don't ruin a new set of tires......You could even buy 4 new tires of a
different brand, and keep your spare you have as a spare.....
--
Robb
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06-03-2005, 12:29 AM
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Re: Use spare or buy new tires?
definately weak shock absorbers and balancing. Also, I know this is a
problem that shows up on mud tires quicker than other tires when ran on the
street. Especially on BFG MUD'S. They have excellent traction, but one
reason is they have different rubber compounds for different lugs. They
have a softer rubber on every other lug, which will cause normal cupping,
but if you have a bad shock or imbalance, it'll really cause you a
headache. I'd replace both front shocks with new, replace your tires
buying 3 and keeping the best old one as a spare, then have an alignment
done. I've always got an alignment done when replacing my tires with new.
Doesn't cost that much, and corrects for any worn suspention parts so I
don't ruin a new set of tires......You could even buy 4 new tires of a
different brand, and keep your spare you have as a spare.....
--
Robb
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http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1
problem that shows up on mud tires quicker than other tires when ran on the
street. Especially on BFG MUD'S. They have excellent traction, but one
reason is they have different rubber compounds for different lugs. They
have a softer rubber on every other lug, which will cause normal cupping,
but if you have a bad shock or imbalance, it'll really cause you a
headache. I'd replace both front shocks with new, replace your tires
buying 3 and keeping the best old one as a spare, then have an alignment
done. I've always got an alignment done when replacing my tires with new.
Doesn't cost that much, and corrects for any worn suspention parts so I
don't ruin a new set of tires......You could even buy 4 new tires of a
different brand, and keep your spare you have as a spare.....
--
Robb
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http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1
06-05-2005, 11:32 AM
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Re: Use spare or buy new tires?
Hey Everyone, thanks so much for the replies. I would have responded
quicker but haven't had a chance. Ok so I decided to just get the 3
new tires... might as well get use out of my spare right!
On the wear topic. I sat down and really looked at it and it is weird
what is happening.. it is actualy squaring the tire.. ie it is putting
flat sides to the tire.. makeing it like an octagon but with more sides
(if i knew how many sides it was making id give the real name!)
So basically i can take a CD case and lay it on top the the wheel and
it is flat, then there is a ridge and then it is flat again... I'd take
a pic but i dont think it would come out in the pic.
Also, what is cupping?
Any thoughts?
Kurt
quicker but haven't had a chance. Ok so I decided to just get the 3
new tires... might as well get use out of my spare right!
On the wear topic. I sat down and really looked at it and it is weird
what is happening.. it is actualy squaring the tire.. ie it is putting
flat sides to the tire.. makeing it like an octagon but with more sides
(if i knew how many sides it was making id give the real name!)
So basically i can take a CD case and lay it on top the the wheel and
it is flat, then there is a ridge and then it is flat again... I'd take
a pic but i dont think it would come out in the pic.
Also, what is cupping?
Any thoughts?
Kurt
06-05-2005, 11:32 AM
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Re: Use spare or buy new tires?
Hey Everyone, thanks so much for the replies. I would have responded
quicker but haven't had a chance. Ok so I decided to just get the 3
new tires... might as well get use out of my spare right!
On the wear topic. I sat down and really looked at it and it is weird
what is happening.. it is actualy squaring the tire.. ie it is putting
flat sides to the tire.. makeing it like an octagon but with more sides
(if i knew how many sides it was making id give the real name!)
So basically i can take a CD case and lay it on top the the wheel and
it is flat, then there is a ridge and then it is flat again... I'd take
a pic but i dont think it would come out in the pic.
Also, what is cupping?
Any thoughts?
Kurt
quicker but haven't had a chance. Ok so I decided to just get the 3
new tires... might as well get use out of my spare right!
On the wear topic. I sat down and really looked at it and it is weird
what is happening.. it is actualy squaring the tire.. ie it is putting
flat sides to the tire.. makeing it like an octagon but with more sides
(if i knew how many sides it was making id give the real name!)
So basically i can take a CD case and lay it on top the the wheel and
it is flat, then there is a ridge and then it is flat again... I'd take
a pic but i dont think it would come out in the pic.
Also, what is cupping?
Any thoughts?
Kurt
06-05-2005, 11:32 AM
#28
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Posts: n/a
Re: Use spare or buy new tires?
Hey Everyone, thanks so much for the replies. I would have responded
quicker but haven't had a chance. Ok so I decided to just get the 3
new tires... might as well get use out of my spare right!
On the wear topic. I sat down and really looked at it and it is weird
what is happening.. it is actualy squaring the tire.. ie it is putting
flat sides to the tire.. makeing it like an octagon but with more sides
(if i knew how many sides it was making id give the real name!)
So basically i can take a CD case and lay it on top the the wheel and
it is flat, then there is a ridge and then it is flat again... I'd take
a pic but i dont think it would come out in the pic.
Also, what is cupping?
Any thoughts?
Kurt
quicker but haven't had a chance. Ok so I decided to just get the 3
new tires... might as well get use out of my spare right!
On the wear topic. I sat down and really looked at it and it is weird
what is happening.. it is actualy squaring the tire.. ie it is putting
flat sides to the tire.. makeing it like an octagon but with more sides
(if i knew how many sides it was making id give the real name!)
So basically i can take a CD case and lay it on top the the wheel and
it is flat, then there is a ridge and then it is flat again... I'd take
a pic but i dont think it would come out in the pic.
Also, what is cupping?
Any thoughts?
Kurt
06-05-2005, 11:32 AM
#29
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Posts: n/a
Re: Use spare or buy new tires?
Hey Everyone, thanks so much for the replies. I would have responded
quicker but haven't had a chance. Ok so I decided to just get the 3
new tires... might as well get use out of my spare right!
On the wear topic. I sat down and really looked at it and it is weird
what is happening.. it is actualy squaring the tire.. ie it is putting
flat sides to the tire.. makeing it like an octagon but with more sides
(if i knew how many sides it was making id give the real name!)
So basically i can take a CD case and lay it on top the the wheel and
it is flat, then there is a ridge and then it is flat again... I'd take
a pic but i dont think it would come out in the pic.
Also, what is cupping?
Any thoughts?
Kurt
quicker but haven't had a chance. Ok so I decided to just get the 3
new tires... might as well get use out of my spare right!
On the wear topic. I sat down and really looked at it and it is weird
what is happening.. it is actualy squaring the tire.. ie it is putting
flat sides to the tire.. makeing it like an octagon but with more sides
(if i knew how many sides it was making id give the real name!)
So basically i can take a CD case and lay it on top the the wheel and
it is flat, then there is a ridge and then it is flat again... I'd take
a pic but i dont think it would come out in the pic.
Also, what is cupping?
Any thoughts?
Kurt
06-05-2005, 11:57 AM
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Re: Use spare or buy new tires?
batlinsj@yahoo.com did pass the time by typing:
> Hey Everyone, thanks so much for the replies. I would have responded
> quicker but haven't had a chance. Ok so I decided to just get the 3
> new tires... might as well get use out of my spare right!
>
> On the wear topic. I sat down and really looked at it and it is weird
> what is happening.. it is actualy squaring the tire.. ie it is putting
> flat sides to the tire.. makeing it like an octagon but with more sides
> (if i knew how many sides it was making id give the real name!)
> So basically i can take a CD case and lay it on top the the wheel and
> it is flat, then there is a ridge and then it is flat again... I'd take
> a pic but i dont think it would come out in the pic.
>
> Also, what is cupping?
That is what your describing. If the shocks are going they
will not control tire bounce. Each time the wheel bounces it
scuffs off a bit of rubber and that flat spot tends to make it
want to bounce again.
Here is a lot of articles to read.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/tiretech.jsp
Key issues are to keep the tires rotated and ballanced
and maintain proper inflation.
--
DougW
> Hey Everyone, thanks so much for the replies. I would have responded
> quicker but haven't had a chance. Ok so I decided to just get the 3
> new tires... might as well get use out of my spare right!
>
> On the wear topic. I sat down and really looked at it and it is weird
> what is happening.. it is actualy squaring the tire.. ie it is putting
> flat sides to the tire.. makeing it like an octagon but with more sides
> (if i knew how many sides it was making id give the real name!)
> So basically i can take a CD case and lay it on top the the wheel and
> it is flat, then there is a ridge and then it is flat again... I'd take
> a pic but i dont think it would come out in the pic.
>
> Also, what is cupping?
That is what your describing. If the shocks are going they
will not control tire bounce. Each time the wheel bounces it
scuffs off a bit of rubber and that flat spot tends to make it
want to bounce again.
Here is a lot of articles to read.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/tiretech.jsp
Key issues are to keep the tires rotated and ballanced
and maintain proper inflation.
--
DougW