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FrankW 03-07-2005 06:32 AM

Re: undercoating
 
From what I've seen, Krown is a good way to go.
It has to be applied every year though.
Soon after I got my Jeep Krowned I saw an old
K car station wagon with the proud owner
saying he Krowned it every year with no body work done, ever!
K cars have disappeared years ago from salt
around here. I was impressed.

Snow wrote:
> Sandman.. drive North my boy.. Visit the Wilds of Canada and while your here
> go visit either a Rust Check shop or Krown. I cant speak for Krown but Rust
> Check carries their own warranty on rust through for new cars and NO it
> doesn't void the manufactures. Your Jeep might cost you about $115-145 Cdn
> due to its new and never been done before.. they drill holes (yes holes) in
> your doors, lower pillars and rockers if the factory hasn't. The Gent I use
> here in Ontario has a big contract with two cities for their fire
> departments, the police contract, local utilities, a local Ford dealer sends
> customers there too and every Dec. 6 he does Santa's ride this year it was a
> nice new 05 stang (local dealer supplied it providing it got sprayed for
> free).
> http://www.rustcheck.com/
> http://www.krown.com/
>
> Snow...
>
>
> <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1110062176.404726.91830@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
>>paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
>>i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
>>entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
>>the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
>>doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>>
>>Nathan W. Collier
>>http://7SlotGrille.com
>>http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>>

>
>
>



FrankW 03-07-2005 06:32 AM

Re: undercoating
 
From what I've seen, Krown is a good way to go.
It has to be applied every year though.
Soon after I got my Jeep Krowned I saw an old
K car station wagon with the proud owner
saying he Krowned it every year with no body work done, ever!
K cars have disappeared years ago from salt
around here. I was impressed.

Snow wrote:
> Sandman.. drive North my boy.. Visit the Wilds of Canada and while your here
> go visit either a Rust Check shop or Krown. I cant speak for Krown but Rust
> Check carries their own warranty on rust through for new cars and NO it
> doesn't void the manufactures. Your Jeep might cost you about $115-145 Cdn
> due to its new and never been done before.. they drill holes (yes holes) in
> your doors, lower pillars and rockers if the factory hasn't. The Gent I use
> here in Ontario has a big contract with two cities for their fire
> departments, the police contract, local utilities, a local Ford dealer sends
> customers there too and every Dec. 6 he does Santa's ride this year it was a
> nice new 05 stang (local dealer supplied it providing it got sprayed for
> free).
> http://www.rustcheck.com/
> http://www.krown.com/
>
> Snow...
>
>
> <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1110062176.404726.91830@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
>>paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
>>i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
>>entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
>>the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
>>doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>>
>>Nathan W. Collier
>>http://7SlotGrille.com
>>http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>>

>
>
>



FrankW 03-07-2005 06:32 AM

Re: undercoating
 
From what I've seen, Krown is a good way to go.
It has to be applied every year though.
Soon after I got my Jeep Krowned I saw an old
K car station wagon with the proud owner
saying he Krowned it every year with no body work done, ever!
K cars have disappeared years ago from salt
around here. I was impressed.

Snow wrote:
> Sandman.. drive North my boy.. Visit the Wilds of Canada and while your here
> go visit either a Rust Check shop or Krown. I cant speak for Krown but Rust
> Check carries their own warranty on rust through for new cars and NO it
> doesn't void the manufactures. Your Jeep might cost you about $115-145 Cdn
> due to its new and never been done before.. they drill holes (yes holes) in
> your doors, lower pillars and rockers if the factory hasn't. The Gent I use
> here in Ontario has a big contract with two cities for their fire
> departments, the police contract, local utilities, a local Ford dealer sends
> customers there too and every Dec. 6 he does Santa's ride this year it was a
> nice new 05 stang (local dealer supplied it providing it got sprayed for
> free).
> http://www.rustcheck.com/
> http://www.krown.com/
>
> Snow...
>
>
> <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1110062176.404726.91830@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
>>paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
>>i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
>>entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
>>the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
>>doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>>
>>Nathan W. Collier
>>http://7SlotGrille.com
>>http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>>

>
>
>



marko 03-07-2005 06:50 AM

Re: undercoating
 

montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:

> i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
> entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
> the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
> doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.


Sounds too cheap to be true... Underbody coating is not enough, I have
http://www.dinitrol.com/
TuffKote Dinol handling in WJ. In short program consists of putting
anti-corrosion into underbody as well as cavities below window line (for
example inside door, between water block plastic and sheet metal).
Authorized shops are, in northern europe, under ISO9001 (one can state
ISO9001 as 'we have no quality' in paper an fill spec :-). And decent
shop shows you the sematics and drawings what materials and where in
your vehicle these are put. Drawback is that you have to either suffer
for odd aromatic carbon combound odor for a week or keep the vehicle
couple of days all doors open in well ventilated garage. Another
drawback is price: roughly 1KEUR for anti-corrosion handling in Finland.


This was more detailed anti-corrosion program than the shaky details
dealer gave upon WJ purchase for DCX approved handling. And a bit better
than they place to northern europe models be default in Graz factory.

Marko

marko 03-07-2005 06:50 AM

Re: undercoating
 

montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:

> i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
> entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
> the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
> doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.


Sounds too cheap to be true... Underbody coating is not enough, I have
http://www.dinitrol.com/
TuffKote Dinol handling in WJ. In short program consists of putting
anti-corrosion into underbody as well as cavities below window line (for
example inside door, between water block plastic and sheet metal).
Authorized shops are, in northern europe, under ISO9001 (one can state
ISO9001 as 'we have no quality' in paper an fill spec :-). And decent
shop shows you the sematics and drawings what materials and where in
your vehicle these are put. Drawback is that you have to either suffer
for odd aromatic carbon combound odor for a week or keep the vehicle
couple of days all doors open in well ventilated garage. Another
drawback is price: roughly 1KEUR for anti-corrosion handling in Finland.


This was more detailed anti-corrosion program than the shaky details
dealer gave upon WJ purchase for DCX approved handling. And a bit better
than they place to northern europe models be default in Graz factory.

Marko

marko 03-07-2005 06:50 AM

Re: undercoating
 

montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:

> i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
> entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
> the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
> doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.


Sounds too cheap to be true... Underbody coating is not enough, I have
http://www.dinitrol.com/
TuffKote Dinol handling in WJ. In short program consists of putting
anti-corrosion into underbody as well as cavities below window line (for
example inside door, between water block plastic and sheet metal).
Authorized shops are, in northern europe, under ISO9001 (one can state
ISO9001 as 'we have no quality' in paper an fill spec :-). And decent
shop shows you the sematics and drawings what materials and where in
your vehicle these are put. Drawback is that you have to either suffer
for odd aromatic carbon combound odor for a week or keep the vehicle
couple of days all doors open in well ventilated garage. Another
drawback is price: roughly 1KEUR for anti-corrosion handling in Finland.


This was more detailed anti-corrosion program than the shaky details
dealer gave upon WJ purchase for DCX approved handling. And a bit better
than they place to northern europe models be default in Graz factory.

Marko

marko 03-07-2005 06:52 AM

Re: undercoating
 
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
> im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
> dirt and gravel.


This adds to damage: chips to wheel well paint, underbody zinc, hood,
doors etc. It just takes a bit more time and corrosion is there.


Marko

marko 03-07-2005 06:52 AM

Re: undercoating
 
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
> im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
> dirt and gravel.


This adds to damage: chips to wheel well paint, underbody zinc, hood,
doors etc. It just takes a bit more time and corrosion is there.


Marko

marko 03-07-2005 06:52 AM

Re: undercoating
 
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
> im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
> dirt and gravel.


This adds to damage: chips to wheel well paint, underbody zinc, hood,
doors etc. It just takes a bit more time and corrosion is there.


Marko

marko 03-07-2005 07:06 AM

Re: undercoating
 
DougW wrote:

> Cars come factory undercoated and in several cases adding
> addional undercoating voids the factory rust warantee.
> Besides which, all they do is rattle-can on undercoating you
> could do yourself for $30 or less.


Again: this depends on anti-corrosion handling. Mine did not remove
factory warranty (what was left of it), but adds an extra one (this was
with converted USA/European DCX warranty).

Self apply: How well you can wash the underbody from dirt and salt
alreday there, if you get delivery of the vehicle in winter? If not done
properly, you just create ideal enviromnent for corrosion to progress
invisible.

Marko


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