Re: undercoating
 

"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> By the time he finnaly gets it delivered to West Nowhere (Billings),
> the paint will have had time to outgas form the sound of it <g>.

heh......now thats the truth!

> Nate, you still local to Billings? Wife says we have to run up there
> soon - grandkids need spoiling.

sure am, just bought a house in 59101. you let me know when youre headed
this way. ill make sure the beer is cold, and ive always got some buffalo
steaks on hand.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Re: undercoating
 

mabar says...
> My '02 TJ has a LOT of undercarriage rust. Of course, Cleveland Ohio winters
> and TONS of salt on the roads don't help. I think I am going to have my next
> new vehicle undercoated by Ziebart. Do you have a Ziebart near you Nathan?
> If so, you might want to talk to them first, before making a decision.
>
> http://www.ziebart.com/prodServicesMain.htm
>
> I would NOT trust the dealer to do a proper job.
>
> Tom
>

I gotta jump in here with an opinion based on experience. My girlfriend had
her new car Ziebarted in 1986, and returned every year for the inspection
and maintenance spray. About four years ago we discovered that the floors
were gone and half the firewall is paper-thin. For years they had been
"maintenance-spraying" the carpet from underneath. After a few non-
productive phone calls she threatened to take them to court. They finally
settled by paying her back an amount that more-or-less equaled what she had
paid them over the years for maintenance.

I'm not really sure that black goo doesn't just provide a barrier that
keeps moisture from evaporating. I'd be more inclined to just wash the
undercarriage regularly, especially if there is no salt involved.

--

Dale Beckett

Re: undercoating
 

mabar says...
> My '02 TJ has a LOT of undercarriage rust. Of course, Cleveland Ohio winters
> and TONS of salt on the roads don't help. I think I am going to have my next
> new vehicle undercoated by Ziebart. Do you have a Ziebart near you Nathan?
> If so, you might want to talk to them first, before making a decision.
>
> http://www.ziebart.com/prodServicesMain.htm
>
> I would NOT trust the dealer to do a proper job.
>
> Tom
>

I gotta jump in here with an opinion based on experience. My girlfriend had
her new car Ziebarted in 1986, and returned every year for the inspection
and maintenance spray. About four years ago we discovered that the floors
were gone and half the firewall is paper-thin. For years they had been
"maintenance-spraying" the carpet from underneath. After a few non-
productive phone calls she threatened to take them to court. They finally
settled by paying her back an amount that more-or-less equaled what she had
paid them over the years for maintenance.

I'm not really sure that black goo doesn't just provide a barrier that
keeps moisture from evaporating. I'd be more inclined to just wash the
undercarriage regularly, especially if there is no salt involved.

--

Dale Beckett

Re: undercoating
 

mabar says...
> My '02 TJ has a LOT of undercarriage rust. Of course, Cleveland Ohio winters
> and TONS of salt on the roads don't help. I think I am going to have my next
> new vehicle undercoated by Ziebart. Do you have a Ziebart near you Nathan?
> If so, you might want to talk to them first, before making a decision.
>
> http://www.ziebart.com/prodServicesMain.htm
>
> I would NOT trust the dealer to do a proper job.
>
> Tom
>

I gotta jump in here with an opinion based on experience. My girlfriend had
her new car Ziebarted in 1986, and returned every year for the inspection
and maintenance spray. About four years ago we discovered that the floors
were gone and half the firewall is paper-thin. For years they had been
"maintenance-spraying" the carpet from underneath. After a few non-
productive phone calls she threatened to take them to court. They finally
settled by paying her back an amount that more-or-less equaled what she had
paid them over the years for maintenance.

I'm not really sure that black goo doesn't just provide a barrier that
keeps moisture from evaporating. I'd be more inclined to just wash the
undercarriage regularly, especially if there is no salt involved.

--

Dale Beckett

Re: undercoating
 

> im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
> dirt and gravel.

Well, maybe lucky. Get a bra and/or bug deflector for the front. Oh, and
keep a good distance between you and the vehicle in front of you.
Otherwise, by the time summer gets around you'll have one ugly front end.
They did the same thing where I grew up in Alaska. Having a windshield
repair/replacement business is certainly a money maker up there!

Eric
99 TJ SE
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:112l290gi7v1705@corp.supernews.com...
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:kq6dnQPA7e6RGLffRVn-sg@comcast.com...
>> keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
>> see salted roads all winter
>
> im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
> dirt and gravel.
>
>
>> skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every
>> month in winter.
>
> definately. ive always washed my undercarraige with more care than my
> body panels. im working on installing a floor drain in my garage for that
> very reason.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>

Re: undercoating
 

> im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
> dirt and gravel.

Well, maybe lucky. Get a bra and/or bug deflector for the front. Oh, and
keep a good distance between you and the vehicle in front of you.
Otherwise, by the time summer gets around you'll have one ugly front end.
They did the same thing where I grew up in Alaska. Having a windshield
repair/replacement business is certainly a money maker up there!

Eric
99 TJ SE
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:112l290gi7v1705@corp.supernews.com...
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:kq6dnQPA7e6RGLffRVn-sg@comcast.com...
>> keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
>> see salted roads all winter
>
> im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
> dirt and gravel.
>
>
>> skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every
>> month in winter.
>
> definately. ive always washed my undercarraige with more care than my
> body panels. im working on installing a floor drain in my garage for that
> very reason.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>

Re: undercoating
 

> im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
> dirt and gravel.

Well, maybe lucky. Get a bra and/or bug deflector for the front. Oh, and
keep a good distance between you and the vehicle in front of you.
Otherwise, by the time summer gets around you'll have one ugly front end.
They did the same thing where I grew up in Alaska. Having a windshield
repair/replacement business is certainly a money maker up there!

Eric
99 TJ SE
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:112l290gi7v1705@corp.supernews.com...
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:kq6dnQPA7e6RGLffRVn-sg@comcast.com...
>> keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
>> see salted roads all winter
>
> im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
> dirt and gravel.
>
>
>> skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every
>> month in winter.
>
> definately. ive always washed my undercarraige with more care than my
> body panels. im working on installing a floor drain in my garage for that
> very reason.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>

Re: undercoating
 

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:elRWd.47329$SQ4.30982@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> Well, maybe lucky. Get a bra and/or bug deflector for the front. Oh, and
> keep a good distance between you and the vehicle in front of you.
> Otherwise, by the time summer gets around you'll have one ugly front end.
> They did the same thing where I grew up in Alaska. Having a windshield
> repair/replacement business is certainly a money maker up there!

yeah, winter is effectively over now and we made it through without a single
chip. most folks are running mud flaps up here and they do a decent job.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Re: undercoating
 

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:elRWd.47329$SQ4.30982@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> Well, maybe lucky. Get a bra and/or bug deflector for the front. Oh, and
> keep a good distance between you and the vehicle in front of you.
> Otherwise, by the time summer gets around you'll have one ugly front end.
> They did the same thing where I grew up in Alaska. Having a windshield
> repair/replacement business is certainly a money maker up there!

yeah, winter is effectively over now and we made it through without a single
chip. most folks are running mud flaps up here and they do a decent job.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Re: undercoating
 

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:elRWd.47329$SQ4.30982@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> Well, maybe lucky. Get a bra and/or bug deflector for the front. Oh, and
> keep a good distance between you and the vehicle in front of you.
> Otherwise, by the time summer gets around you'll have one ugly front end.
> They did the same thing where I grew up in Alaska. Having a windshield
> repair/replacement business is certainly a money maker up there!

yeah, winter is effectively over now and we made it through without a single
chip. most folks are running mud flaps up here and they do a decent job.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com