undercoating
03-06-2005, 12:01 PM
#41
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Re: undercoating
Sure it is. They just don't want you to think so and they get to charge
you more money.
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP.
>
>
> i dont think that applies if youre paying green sheet. they even charge you
> $15 for the gas that comes in the tank, undertandably.
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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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you more money.
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP.
>
>
> i dont think that applies if youre paying green sheet. they even charge you
> $15 for the gas that comes in the tank, undertandably.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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03-06-2005, 12:01 PM
#42
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Re: undercoating
Sure it is. They just don't want you to think so and they get to charge
you more money.
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP.
>
>
> i dont think that applies if youre paying green sheet. they even charge you
> $15 for the gas that comes in the tank, undertandably.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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you more money.
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP.
>
>
> i dont think that applies if youre paying green sheet. they even charge you
> $15 for the gas that comes in the tank, undertandably.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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03-06-2005, 12:01 PM
#43
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Re: undercoating
Sure it is. They just don't want you to think so and they get to charge
you more money.
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP.
>
>
> i dont think that applies if youre paying green sheet. they even charge you
> $15 for the gas that comes in the tank, undertandably.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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__________________________________________________ _________
you more money.
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP.
>
>
> i dont think that applies if youre paying green sheet. they even charge you
> $15 for the gas that comes in the tank, undertandably.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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03-06-2005, 04:22 PM
#44
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Re: undercoating
If they don't salt, why would you need the undercoating? Your sheet
metal is zinc'd at the factory.
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:kq6dnQPA7e6RGLffRVn-sg@comcast.com...
>
>>keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
>>see salted roads all winter
>
>
> im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
> dirt and gravel.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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__________________________________________________ _________
metal is zinc'd at the factory.
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:kq6dnQPA7e6RGLffRVn-sg@comcast.com...
>
>>keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
>>see salted roads all winter
>
>
> im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
> dirt and gravel.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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03-06-2005, 04:22 PM
#45
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Re: undercoating
If they don't salt, why would you need the undercoating? Your sheet
metal is zinc'd at the factory.
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:kq6dnQPA7e6RGLffRVn-sg@comcast.com...
>
>>keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
>>see salted roads all winter
>
>
> im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
> dirt and gravel.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
metal is zinc'd at the factory.
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:kq6dnQPA7e6RGLffRVn-sg@comcast.com...
>
>>keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
>>see salted roads all winter
>
>
> im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
> dirt and gravel.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
03-06-2005, 04:22 PM
#46
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Re: undercoating
If they don't salt, why would you need the undercoating? Your sheet
metal is zinc'd at the factory.
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:kq6dnQPA7e6RGLffRVn-sg@comcast.com...
>
>>keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
>>see salted roads all winter
>
>
> im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
> dirt and gravel.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
metal is zinc'd at the factory.
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:kq6dnQPA7e6RGLffRVn-sg@comcast.com...
>
>>keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
>>see salted roads all winter
>
>
> im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
> dirt and gravel.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
03-06-2005, 04:48 PM
#47
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Re: undercoating
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:9wKWd.1609$WK2.527@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
> If they don't salt, why would you need the undercoating? Your sheet metal
> is zinc'd at the factory.
hell i dunno....i never gave it a any thought before the dealer asked me if
i wanted it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:9wKWd.1609$WK2.527@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
> If they don't salt, why would you need the undercoating? Your sheet metal
> is zinc'd at the factory.
hell i dunno....i never gave it a any thought before the dealer asked me if
i wanted it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
03-06-2005, 04:48 PM
#48
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Re: undercoating
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:9wKWd.1609$WK2.527@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
> If they don't salt, why would you need the undercoating? Your sheet metal
> is zinc'd at the factory.
hell i dunno....i never gave it a any thought before the dealer asked me if
i wanted it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:9wKWd.1609$WK2.527@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
> If they don't salt, why would you need the undercoating? Your sheet metal
> is zinc'd at the factory.
hell i dunno....i never gave it a any thought before the dealer asked me if
i wanted it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
03-06-2005, 04:48 PM
#49
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Re: undercoating
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:9wKWd.1609$WK2.527@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
> If they don't salt, why would you need the undercoating? Your sheet metal
> is zinc'd at the factory.
hell i dunno....i never gave it a any thought before the dealer asked me if
i wanted it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:9wKWd.1609$WK2.527@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
> If they don't salt, why would you need the undercoating? Your sheet metal
> is zinc'd at the factory.
hell i dunno....i never gave it a any thought before the dealer asked me if
i wanted it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
03-06-2005, 04:59 PM
#50
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Re: undercoating
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 06:56:57 UTC DaveW <spsffannospam@verizon.net>
wrote:
> DougW wrote:
>
> > montanajeeper did pass the time by typing:
> >
> >>my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
> >>paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
> >>i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
> >>entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
> >>the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
> >>doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
> >
> >
> > IMHO, a waste of money.
> > Cars come factory undercoated and in several cases adding
> > addional undercoating voids the factory rust warantee.
> > Besides which, all they do is rattle-can on undercoating you
> > could do yourself for $30 or less.
> >
> > As for waxing, that's pure --------. The dealer should detail
> > your car for delivery as a part of the service. Seriously, clean
> > it yourself, that way some lowbuck trainee doesn't scratch the
> > paint before you can.
> >
>
>
> Undercoating I can understand, though I'm certainly not sure that it is
> a good deal, as priced. Waxing should be left until the vehicle is a few
> months old. Ask any auto painter and they will tell you not to wax until
> the paint has outgassed for a few weeks.
By the time he finnaly gets it delivered to West Nowhere (Billings),
the paint will have had time to outgas form the sound of it <g>.
Nate, you still local to Billings? Wife says we have to run up there
soon - grandkids need spoiling.
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> DougW wrote:
>
> > montanajeeper did pass the time by typing:
> >
> >>my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
> >>paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
> >>i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
> >>entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
> >>the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
> >>doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
> >
> >
> > IMHO, a waste of money.
> > Cars come factory undercoated and in several cases adding
> > addional undercoating voids the factory rust warantee.
> > Besides which, all they do is rattle-can on undercoating you
> > could do yourself for $30 or less.
> >
> > As for waxing, that's pure --------. The dealer should detail
> > your car for delivery as a part of the service. Seriously, clean
> > it yourself, that way some lowbuck trainee doesn't scratch the
> > paint before you can.
> >
>
>
> Undercoating I can understand, though I'm certainly not sure that it is
> a good deal, as priced. Waxing should be left until the vehicle is a few
> months old. Ask any auto painter and they will tell you not to wax until
> the paint has outgassed for a few weeks.
By the time he finnaly gets it delivered to West Nowhere (Billings),
the paint will have had time to outgas form the sound of it <g>.
Nate, you still local to Billings? Wife says we have to run up there
soon - grandkids need spoiling.
--
Will Honea