undercoating
#21
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Re: undercoating
My '02 TJ has a LOT of undercarriage rust. Of course, Cleveland Ohio winters
and TONS of salt on the roads don't help. I think I am going to have my next
new vehicle undercoated by Ziebart. Do you have a Ziebart near you Nathan?
If so, you might want to talk to them first, before making a decision.
http://www.ziebart.com/prodServicesMain.htm
I would NOT trust the dealer to do a proper job.
Tom
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:7ysWd.1389$WK2.1234@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> > waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP.
>
> i dont think that applies if youre paying green sheet. they even charge
you
> $15 for the gas that comes in the tank, undertandably.
>
> > As far as undercoating, if I _was_ going to do it, I'd do it myself.
>
> ive often wondered why people rhino line the inside of their tubs. would
> make more sense to me to rhino line the under side of the tub.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
and TONS of salt on the roads don't help. I think I am going to have my next
new vehicle undercoated by Ziebart. Do you have a Ziebart near you Nathan?
If so, you might want to talk to them first, before making a decision.
http://www.ziebart.com/prodServicesMain.htm
I would NOT trust the dealer to do a proper job.
Tom
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:7ysWd.1389$WK2.1234@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> > waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP.
>
> i dont think that applies if youre paying green sheet. they even charge
you
> $15 for the gas that comes in the tank, undertandably.
>
> > As far as undercoating, if I _was_ going to do it, I'd do it myself.
>
> ive often wondered why people rhino line the inside of their tubs. would
> make more sense to me to rhino line the under side of the tub.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
#22
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Re: undercoating
My '02 TJ has a LOT of undercarriage rust. Of course, Cleveland Ohio winters
and TONS of salt on the roads don't help. I think I am going to have my next
new vehicle undercoated by Ziebart. Do you have a Ziebart near you Nathan?
If so, you might want to talk to them first, before making a decision.
http://www.ziebart.com/prodServicesMain.htm
I would NOT trust the dealer to do a proper job.
Tom
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:112kntl1qnpr381@corp.supernews.com...
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:7ysWd.1389$WK2.1234@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> > waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP.
>
> i dont think that applies if youre paying green sheet. they even charge
you
> $15 for the gas that comes in the tank, undertandably.
>
> > As far as undercoating, if I _was_ going to do it, I'd do it myself.
>
> ive often wondered why people rhino line the inside of their tubs. would
> make more sense to me to rhino line the under side of the tub.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
and TONS of salt on the roads don't help. I think I am going to have my next
new vehicle undercoated by Ziebart. Do you have a Ziebart near you Nathan?
If so, you might want to talk to them first, before making a decision.
http://www.ziebart.com/prodServicesMain.htm
I would NOT trust the dealer to do a proper job.
Tom
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:112kntl1qnpr381@corp.supernews.com...
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:7ysWd.1389$WK2.1234@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> > waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP.
>
> i dont think that applies if youre paying green sheet. they even charge
you
> $15 for the gas that comes in the tank, undertandably.
>
> > As far as undercoating, if I _was_ going to do it, I'd do it myself.
>
> ive often wondered why people rhino line the inside of their tubs. would
> make more sense to me to rhino line the under side of the tub.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
#23
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Re: undercoating
keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will see
salted roads all winter, as does mine. Bill's pictures are referring to a TJ
that had already seen 4 Michigan winters when those pics were taken. If the
undercoating has gaps or open bubbles, salt will collect in those spots. My
advice, skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every
month in winter.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422A3AB2.BB5FC6E3@***.net...
> Hi Sandman,
> I'd would let them do it. Maybe quiz the guy that will be doing it,
> to make sure he doesn't spray any of the cases causing any overheating
> problem that will destroy their lubricants. Making sure he doesn't close
> any body drain holes. And look, Daimler doesn't bother to paint the
> undercarriage: http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
>> paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
>> i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
>> entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
>> the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
>> doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>>
>> Nathan W. Collier
>> http://7SlotGrille.com
>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
salted roads all winter, as does mine. Bill's pictures are referring to a TJ
that had already seen 4 Michigan winters when those pics were taken. If the
undercoating has gaps or open bubbles, salt will collect in those spots. My
advice, skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every
month in winter.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422A3AB2.BB5FC6E3@***.net...
> Hi Sandman,
> I'd would let them do it. Maybe quiz the guy that will be doing it,
> to make sure he doesn't spray any of the cases causing any overheating
> problem that will destroy their lubricants. Making sure he doesn't close
> any body drain holes. And look, Daimler doesn't bother to paint the
> undercarriage: http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
>> paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
>> i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
>> entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
>> the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
>> doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>>
>> Nathan W. Collier
>> http://7SlotGrille.com
>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
#24
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Re: undercoating
keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will see
salted roads all winter, as does mine. Bill's pictures are referring to a TJ
that had already seen 4 Michigan winters when those pics were taken. If the
undercoating has gaps or open bubbles, salt will collect in those spots. My
advice, skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every
month in winter.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422A3AB2.BB5FC6E3@***.net...
> Hi Sandman,
> I'd would let them do it. Maybe quiz the guy that will be doing it,
> to make sure he doesn't spray any of the cases causing any overheating
> problem that will destroy their lubricants. Making sure he doesn't close
> any body drain holes. And look, Daimler doesn't bother to paint the
> undercarriage: http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
>> paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
>> i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
>> entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
>> the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
>> doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>>
>> Nathan W. Collier
>> http://7SlotGrille.com
>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
salted roads all winter, as does mine. Bill's pictures are referring to a TJ
that had already seen 4 Michigan winters when those pics were taken. If the
undercoating has gaps or open bubbles, salt will collect in those spots. My
advice, skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every
month in winter.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422A3AB2.BB5FC6E3@***.net...
> Hi Sandman,
> I'd would let them do it. Maybe quiz the guy that will be doing it,
> to make sure he doesn't spray any of the cases causing any overheating
> problem that will destroy their lubricants. Making sure he doesn't close
> any body drain holes. And look, Daimler doesn't bother to paint the
> undercarriage: http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
>> paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
>> i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
>> entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
>> the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
>> doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>>
>> Nathan W. Collier
>> http://7SlotGrille.com
>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
#25
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Re: undercoating
keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will see
salted roads all winter, as does mine. Bill's pictures are referring to a TJ
that had already seen 4 Michigan winters when those pics were taken. If the
undercoating has gaps or open bubbles, salt will collect in those spots. My
advice, skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every
month in winter.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422A3AB2.BB5FC6E3@***.net...
> Hi Sandman,
> I'd would let them do it. Maybe quiz the guy that will be doing it,
> to make sure he doesn't spray any of the cases causing any overheating
> problem that will destroy their lubricants. Making sure he doesn't close
> any body drain holes. And look, Daimler doesn't bother to paint the
> undercarriage: http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
>> paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
>> i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
>> entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
>> the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
>> doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>>
>> Nathan W. Collier
>> http://7SlotGrille.com
>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
salted roads all winter, as does mine. Bill's pictures are referring to a TJ
that had already seen 4 Michigan winters when those pics were taken. If the
undercoating has gaps or open bubbles, salt will collect in those spots. My
advice, skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every
month in winter.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422A3AB2.BB5FC6E3@***.net...
> Hi Sandman,
> I'd would let them do it. Maybe quiz the guy that will be doing it,
> to make sure he doesn't spray any of the cases causing any overheating
> problem that will destroy their lubricants. Making sure he doesn't close
> any body drain holes. And look, Daimler doesn't bother to paint the
> undercarriage: http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
>> paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
>> i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
>> entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
>> the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
>> doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>>
>> Nathan W. Collier
>> http://7SlotGrille.com
>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
#26
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Re: undercoating
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
> see salted roads all winter
im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
dirt and gravel.
> skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every month
> in winter.
definately. ive always washed my undercarraige with more care than my body
panels. im working on installing a floor drain in my garage for that very
reason.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:kq6dnQPA7e6RGLffRVn-sg@comcast.com...
> keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
> see salted roads all winter
im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
dirt and gravel.
> skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every month
> in winter.
definately. ive always washed my undercarraige with more care than my body
panels. im working on installing a floor drain in my garage for that very
reason.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
#27
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Re: undercoating
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kq6dnQPA7e6RGLffRVn-sg@comcast.com...
> keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
> see salted roads all winter
im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
dirt and gravel.
> skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every month
> in winter.
definately. ive always washed my undercarraige with more care than my body
panels. im working on installing a floor drain in my garage for that very
reason.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:kq6dnQPA7e6RGLffRVn-sg@comcast.com...
> keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
> see salted roads all winter
im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
dirt and gravel.
> skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every month
> in winter.
definately. ive always washed my undercarraige with more care than my body
panels. im working on installing a floor drain in my garage for that very
reason.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
#28
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Re: undercoating
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kq6dnQPA7e6RGLffRVn-sg@comcast.com...
> keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
> see salted roads all winter
im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
dirt and gravel.
> skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every month
> in winter.
definately. ive always washed my undercarraige with more care than my body
panels. im working on installing a floor drain in my garage for that very
reason.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:kq6dnQPA7e6RGLffRVn-sg@comcast.com...
> keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
> see salted roads all winter
im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
dirt and gravel.
> skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every month
> in winter.
definately. ive always washed my undercarraige with more care than my body
panels. im working on installing a floor drain in my garage for that very
reason.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
#29
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Re: undercoating
DougW wrote:
> montanajeeper did pass the time by typing:
>
>>my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
>>paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
>>i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
>>entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
>>the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
>>doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>
>
> IMHO, a waste of money.
> Cars come factory undercoated and in several cases adding
> addional undercoating voids the factory rust warantee.
> Besides which, all they do is rattle-can on undercoating you
> could do yourself for $30 or less.
>
> As for waxing, that's pure --------. The dealer should detail
> your car for delivery as a part of the service. Seriously, clean
> it yourself, that way some lowbuck trainee doesn't scratch the
> paint before you can.
>
Undercoating I can understand, though I'm certainly not sure that it is
a good deal, as priced. Waxing should be left until the vehicle is a few
months old. Ask any auto painter and they will tell you not to wax until
the paint has outgassed for a few weeks.
Regards,
DAve
> montanajeeper did pass the time by typing:
>
>>my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
>>paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
>>i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
>>entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
>>the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
>>doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>
>
> IMHO, a waste of money.
> Cars come factory undercoated and in several cases adding
> addional undercoating voids the factory rust warantee.
> Besides which, all they do is rattle-can on undercoating you
> could do yourself for $30 or less.
>
> As for waxing, that's pure --------. The dealer should detail
> your car for delivery as a part of the service. Seriously, clean
> it yourself, that way some lowbuck trainee doesn't scratch the
> paint before you can.
>
Undercoating I can understand, though I'm certainly not sure that it is
a good deal, as priced. Waxing should be left until the vehicle is a few
months old. Ask any auto painter and they will tell you not to wax until
the paint has outgassed for a few weeks.
Regards,
DAve
#30
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Re: undercoating
DougW wrote:
> montanajeeper did pass the time by typing:
>
>>my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
>>paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
>>i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
>>entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
>>the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
>>doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>
>
> IMHO, a waste of money.
> Cars come factory undercoated and in several cases adding
> addional undercoating voids the factory rust warantee.
> Besides which, all they do is rattle-can on undercoating you
> could do yourself for $30 or less.
>
> As for waxing, that's pure --------. The dealer should detail
> your car for delivery as a part of the service. Seriously, clean
> it yourself, that way some lowbuck trainee doesn't scratch the
> paint before you can.
>
Undercoating I can understand, though I'm certainly not sure that it is
a good deal, as priced. Waxing should be left until the vehicle is a few
months old. Ask any auto painter and they will tell you not to wax until
the paint has outgassed for a few weeks.
Regards,
DAve
> montanajeeper did pass the time by typing:
>
>>my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
>>paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
>>i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
>>entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
>>the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
>>doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>
>
> IMHO, a waste of money.
> Cars come factory undercoated and in several cases adding
> addional undercoating voids the factory rust warantee.
> Besides which, all they do is rattle-can on undercoating you
> could do yourself for $30 or less.
>
> As for waxing, that's pure --------. The dealer should detail
> your car for delivery as a part of the service. Seriously, clean
> it yourself, that way some lowbuck trainee doesn't scratch the
> paint before you can.
>
Undercoating I can understand, though I'm certainly not sure that it is
a good deal, as priced. Waxing should be left until the vehicle is a few
months old. Ask any auto painter and they will tell you not to wax until
the paint has outgassed for a few weeks.
Regards,
DAve