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Re: U joints again.
The sealed units are garbage. You want the cheapie greaseable kind.
Carl "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:4cf5c$45c4126b$422afc51$15808@FUSE.NET... > Greg, > > If you have the choice between an less expensive unit that you have to > grease and an expensive premium "sealed for life" joint with a lifetime > guarantee I believe most of the Jeepers here would recommend you get the > greasable units. > > (and keep them greased) > > > > "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message > news:1170471154.974033.270690@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com... >> On Feb 2, 8:25 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>> Unfortunately the yoke has been damaged by the loose strap. I have >>> never seen a successful fix for that. The slop will always allow >>> vibration which will destroy the pinion seal and bearing as well as the >>> u-joint eventually or just blow the yoke apart... >>> >>> I have 'heard' a good welder can fill the hole, then regrind a new seat, >>> I have also heard of shims and just plain welding the cap to the yoke. >>> >>> No matter how you decide to try and use it, you should get new straps. >>> They are very inexpensive. >>> >>> Mike >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>> >>> >>> >>> jerryg wrote: >>> > Well my u joint in the rear was not bad as I suspected, but what I >>> > found was a strap was loose. It was allowing the shaft to move >>> > laterally. Took it to the mechanic, he said u joint was fine. Bearings >>> > were good. He said to center it in the yoke upon reinstallation. There >>> > are tabs or stops to contain the bearing caps on either side of the >>> > yoke, but it is not a tight fit. How can you center it? There is about >>> > 1/16" gap. If not centered, won't it vibrate? >>> >>> > Thanks, >>> >>> > Greg- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> I'm going tomorrow to buy the joint. I pulled the driveshaft again and >> took a look at the yoke. It looked fine, Took a measurement across the >> tabs to see if they were bent out. 3.875". Good. Measured across the >> bearing caps, relaxed, I could squeeze them a little, but a good .125" >> under. I hope a new one will work. Things did not look that bad under >> there. Will get new straps. Am going to have a mechanic put it in. And >> I will reinstall the driveshaft myself. Thanks guys for all the help. >> >> Greg> >> >> Greg >> > > |
Re: U joints again.
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 01:21:58 -0800, "Carl S"
<carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >The sealed units are garbage. You want the cheapie greaseable kind. > I laugh every time I hear this. I have 2 YJ's, a '95 and a '94, both with over 218,000 miles on them. Both with 4 original u-joints. The 4x4 S-10 that I had before got sold with 387,500 miles on it. The 4 factory u-joints in that one outlasted 3 engines and a couple of trannies. -- Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl" '74 XLH chopper(gone but not forgotten) BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: U joints again.
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 01:21:58 -0800, "Carl S"
<carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >The sealed units are garbage. You want the cheapie greaseable kind. > I laugh every time I hear this. I have 2 YJ's, a '95 and a '94, both with over 218,000 miles on them. Both with 4 original u-joints. The 4x4 S-10 that I had before got sold with 387,500 miles on it. The 4 factory u-joints in that one outlasted 3 engines and a couple of trannies. -- Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl" '74 XLH chopper(gone but not forgotten) BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: U joints again.
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 01:21:58 -0800, "Carl S"
<carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >The sealed units are garbage. You want the cheapie greaseable kind. > I laugh every time I hear this. I have 2 YJ's, a '95 and a '94, both with over 218,000 miles on them. Both with 4 original u-joints. The 4x4 S-10 that I had before got sold with 387,500 miles on it. The 4 factory u-joints in that one outlasted 3 engines and a couple of trannies. -- Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl" '74 XLH chopper(gone but not forgotten) BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: U joints again.
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 01:21:58 -0800, "Carl S"
<carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >The sealed units are garbage. You want the cheapie greaseable kind. > I laugh every time I hear this. I have 2 YJ's, a '95 and a '94, both with over 218,000 miles on them. Both with 4 original u-joints. The 4x4 S-10 that I had before got sold with 387,500 miles on it. The 4 factory u-joints in that one outlasted 3 engines and a couple of trannies. -- Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl" '74 XLH chopper(gone but not forgotten) BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: U joints again.
I will add to the fact the sealed units are garbage, at least for my
Canadian Off Road use. I have had to replace 'all' the sealed units in my CJ7 within 2 years of it's complete rebuild. One only lasted 8 months! It (one ear) was contaminated with water when I had to pull it to replace an axle seal so I changed it. I also stupidly put the things into our Cherokee and had to replace all of them withing 2 or 3 years too. These had a 'lifetime' warranty on them and I saved all the receipts so got to take them back for 'money' when I showed I replaced them with ones costing 1/4 as much. I will also add they 'every' time I come back from a bush run and grease my u-joints, I always get water out of them. These sealed units might be great for desert rats and for those that run strictly 'on' road, but not for mud runners or creek crossers.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Old Crow wrote: > On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 01:21:58 -0800, "Carl S" > <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >> The sealed units are garbage. You want the cheapie greaseable kind. >> > > I laugh every time I hear this. I have 2 YJ's, a '95 and a '94, both > with over 218,000 miles on them. Both with 4 original u-joints. > The 4x4 S-10 that I had before got sold with 387,500 miles on it. The > 4 factory u-joints in that one outlasted 3 engines and a couple of > trannies. > -- > Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!" > '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl" > '74 XLH chopper(gone but not forgotten) > BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM > > |
Re: U joints again.
I will add to the fact the sealed units are garbage, at least for my
Canadian Off Road use. I have had to replace 'all' the sealed units in my CJ7 within 2 years of it's complete rebuild. One only lasted 8 months! It (one ear) was contaminated with water when I had to pull it to replace an axle seal so I changed it. I also stupidly put the things into our Cherokee and had to replace all of them withing 2 or 3 years too. These had a 'lifetime' warranty on them and I saved all the receipts so got to take them back for 'money' when I showed I replaced them with ones costing 1/4 as much. I will also add they 'every' time I come back from a bush run and grease my u-joints, I always get water out of them. These sealed units might be great for desert rats and for those that run strictly 'on' road, but not for mud runners or creek crossers.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Old Crow wrote: > On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 01:21:58 -0800, "Carl S" > <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >> The sealed units are garbage. You want the cheapie greaseable kind. >> > > I laugh every time I hear this. I have 2 YJ's, a '95 and a '94, both > with over 218,000 miles on them. Both with 4 original u-joints. > The 4x4 S-10 that I had before got sold with 387,500 miles on it. The > 4 factory u-joints in that one outlasted 3 engines and a couple of > trannies. > -- > Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!" > '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl" > '74 XLH chopper(gone but not forgotten) > BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM > > |
Re: U joints again.
I will add to the fact the sealed units are garbage, at least for my
Canadian Off Road use. I have had to replace 'all' the sealed units in my CJ7 within 2 years of it's complete rebuild. One only lasted 8 months! It (one ear) was contaminated with water when I had to pull it to replace an axle seal so I changed it. I also stupidly put the things into our Cherokee and had to replace all of them withing 2 or 3 years too. These had a 'lifetime' warranty on them and I saved all the receipts so got to take them back for 'money' when I showed I replaced them with ones costing 1/4 as much. I will also add they 'every' time I come back from a bush run and grease my u-joints, I always get water out of them. These sealed units might be great for desert rats and for those that run strictly 'on' road, but not for mud runners or creek crossers.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Old Crow wrote: > On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 01:21:58 -0800, "Carl S" > <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >> The sealed units are garbage. You want the cheapie greaseable kind. >> > > I laugh every time I hear this. I have 2 YJ's, a '95 and a '94, both > with over 218,000 miles on them. Both with 4 original u-joints. > The 4x4 S-10 that I had before got sold with 387,500 miles on it. The > 4 factory u-joints in that one outlasted 3 engines and a couple of > trannies. > -- > Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!" > '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl" > '74 XLH chopper(gone but not forgotten) > BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM > > |
Re: U joints again.
I will add to the fact the sealed units are garbage, at least for my
Canadian Off Road use. I have had to replace 'all' the sealed units in my CJ7 within 2 years of it's complete rebuild. One only lasted 8 months! It (one ear) was contaminated with water when I had to pull it to replace an axle seal so I changed it. I also stupidly put the things into our Cherokee and had to replace all of them withing 2 or 3 years too. These had a 'lifetime' warranty on them and I saved all the receipts so got to take them back for 'money' when I showed I replaced them with ones costing 1/4 as much. I will also add they 'every' time I come back from a bush run and grease my u-joints, I always get water out of them. These sealed units might be great for desert rats and for those that run strictly 'on' road, but not for mud runners or creek crossers.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Old Crow wrote: > On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 01:21:58 -0800, "Carl S" > <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >> The sealed units are garbage. You want the cheapie greaseable kind. >> > > I laugh every time I hear this. I have 2 YJ's, a '95 and a '94, both > with over 218,000 miles on them. Both with 4 original u-joints. > The 4x4 S-10 that I had before got sold with 387,500 miles on it. The > 4 factory u-joints in that one outlasted 3 engines and a couple of > trannies. > -- > Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!" > '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl" > '74 XLH chopper(gone but not forgotten) > BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM > > |
Re: U joints again.
Same here but as Mike says no mudding for me. Otoh, if you get an
aftermarket "lifetime warranty" part is it the same as or better than the OEM part it is replacing? Sometimes not. It's that magic UAW "factory touch" I guess. Earle "Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:djs8s2tiu47k1kj4pv0kpu7mqao4a51j78@4ax.com... > On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 01:21:58 -0800, "Carl S" > <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > > >The sealed units are garbage. You want the cheapie greaseable kind. > > > > I laugh every time I hear this. I have 2 YJ's, a '95 and a '94, both > with over 218,000 miles on them. Both with 4 original u-joints. > The 4x4 S-10 that I had before got sold with 387,500 miles on it. The > 4 factory u-joints in that one outlasted 3 engines and a couple of > trannies. > -- > Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!" > '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl" > '74 XLH chopper(gone but not forgotten) > BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |
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