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Re: U joints again.
If the joint is not snug in the yoke, it is likely that the U joint was
physically blown out sometime in the past. Not unsual on the short shaft in a CJ/YJ/TJ. And it will cause vibration and premature joint failure. Proper fix is to replace the yoke. $50 plus installation charges. I know other Jeepers who have VERY CAREFULLY tapped the tabs on the yoke in to tighten the joint back up. Not really reccomended but it sometimes works. Your yoke has the straps to hold the U-joint rather than U bolts, replace the straps when you replace the joint. The straps stretch with age or abuse, no longer hold the joint properly. $5 a pair. jerryg wrote: > Well my u joint in the rear was not bad as I suspected, but what I > found was a strap was loose. It was allowing the shaft to move > laterally. Took it to the mechanic, he said u joint was fine. Bearings > were good. He said to center it in the yoke upon reinstallation. There > are tabs or stops to contain the bearing caps on either side of the > yoke, but it is not a tight fit. How can you center it? There is about > 1/16" gap. If not centered, won't it vibrate? > > Thanks, > > Greg > |
Re: U joints again.
No. As soon as the grease oozes out, it will let the driveshaft run off
center, causes vibrations and premature joint failure. Carl S wrote: > Pack it with enough grease to take out that 1/16" gap and put it back on. > The cross piece will center itself within that 1/16" difference so long as > the caps are tight against the stops. > > Carl > > Carl > "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message > news:1170464917.100649.262010@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > >>On Feb 2, 6:49 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>The caps should fit tight. If they don't, there isn't enough grease in >>>the >>>joint. Grease it up real good through the grease nipple and put the caps >>>on.. You'll have to compress the caps with your hand just to get 'em to >>>fit. >>>If the joint doesn't have a grease fitting, it's probably original so go >>>ahead and replace it anyway. Better to learn in your garage at home then >>>on >>>the side of the road. >>> >>>Carl >>> >>>"jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message >>> >>>news:1170462125.136727.42470@j27g2000cwj.google groups.com... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Well my u joint in the rear was not bad as I suspected, but what I >>>>found was a strap was loose. It was allowing the shaft to move >>>>laterally. Took it to the mechanic, he said u joint was fine. Bearings >>>>were good. He said to center it in the yoke upon reinstallation. There >>>>are tabs or stops to contain the bearing caps on either side of the >>>>yoke, but it is not a tight fit. How can you center it? There is about >>>>1/16" gap. If not centered, won't it vibrate? >>> >>>>Thanks, >>> >>>>Greg- Hide quoted text - >>> >>>- Show quoted text - >> >>Hey Carl, thanks. My mechanic said there wasn't enough grease in them >>so he put some in for me. I put it back together and there is a gap. >>If I loosen the straps, I can move it laterally. I cannot center it. >>Also mine do not have grease fittings. It will be out one way or the >>other about 1/16" Should I take it off again, remove the bearing caps >>and pack it full? I cant get new ones till next week and I need to >>drive it. After I put it back on the first time, not knowing to center >>it, I went for a test drive and was still getting some vibration. >> >>Greg >> > > > |
Re: U joints again.
No. As soon as the grease oozes out, it will let the driveshaft run off
center, causes vibrations and premature joint failure. Carl S wrote: > Pack it with enough grease to take out that 1/16" gap and put it back on. > The cross piece will center itself within that 1/16" difference so long as > the caps are tight against the stops. > > Carl > > Carl > "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message > news:1170464917.100649.262010@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > >>On Feb 2, 6:49 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>The caps should fit tight. If they don't, there isn't enough grease in >>>the >>>joint. Grease it up real good through the grease nipple and put the caps >>>on.. You'll have to compress the caps with your hand just to get 'em to >>>fit. >>>If the joint doesn't have a grease fitting, it's probably original so go >>>ahead and replace it anyway. Better to learn in your garage at home then >>>on >>>the side of the road. >>> >>>Carl >>> >>>"jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message >>> >>>news:1170462125.136727.42470@j27g2000cwj.google groups.com... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Well my u joint in the rear was not bad as I suspected, but what I >>>>found was a strap was loose. It was allowing the shaft to move >>>>laterally. Took it to the mechanic, he said u joint was fine. Bearings >>>>were good. He said to center it in the yoke upon reinstallation. There >>>>are tabs or stops to contain the bearing caps on either side of the >>>>yoke, but it is not a tight fit. How can you center it? There is about >>>>1/16" gap. If not centered, won't it vibrate? >>> >>>>Thanks, >>> >>>>Greg- Hide quoted text - >>> >>>- Show quoted text - >> >>Hey Carl, thanks. My mechanic said there wasn't enough grease in them >>so he put some in for me. I put it back together and there is a gap. >>If I loosen the straps, I can move it laterally. I cannot center it. >>Also mine do not have grease fittings. It will be out one way or the >>other about 1/16" Should I take it off again, remove the bearing caps >>and pack it full? I cant get new ones till next week and I need to >>drive it. After I put it back on the first time, not knowing to center >>it, I went for a test drive and was still getting some vibration. >> >>Greg >> > > > |
Re: U joints again.
No. As soon as the grease oozes out, it will let the driveshaft run off
center, causes vibrations and premature joint failure. Carl S wrote: > Pack it with enough grease to take out that 1/16" gap and put it back on. > The cross piece will center itself within that 1/16" difference so long as > the caps are tight against the stops. > > Carl > > Carl > "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message > news:1170464917.100649.262010@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > >>On Feb 2, 6:49 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>The caps should fit tight. If they don't, there isn't enough grease in >>>the >>>joint. Grease it up real good through the grease nipple and put the caps >>>on.. You'll have to compress the caps with your hand just to get 'em to >>>fit. >>>If the joint doesn't have a grease fitting, it's probably original so go >>>ahead and replace it anyway. Better to learn in your garage at home then >>>on >>>the side of the road. >>> >>>Carl >>> >>>"jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message >>> >>>news:1170462125.136727.42470@j27g2000cwj.google groups.com... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Well my u joint in the rear was not bad as I suspected, but what I >>>>found was a strap was loose. It was allowing the shaft to move >>>>laterally. Took it to the mechanic, he said u joint was fine. Bearings >>>>were good. He said to center it in the yoke upon reinstallation. There >>>>are tabs or stops to contain the bearing caps on either side of the >>>>yoke, but it is not a tight fit. How can you center it? There is about >>>>1/16" gap. If not centered, won't it vibrate? >>> >>>>Thanks, >>> >>>>Greg- Hide quoted text - >>> >>>- Show quoted text - >> >>Hey Carl, thanks. My mechanic said there wasn't enough grease in them >>so he put some in for me. I put it back together and there is a gap. >>If I loosen the straps, I can move it laterally. I cannot center it. >>Also mine do not have grease fittings. It will be out one way or the >>other about 1/16" Should I take it off again, remove the bearing caps >>and pack it full? I cant get new ones till next week and I need to >>drive it. After I put it back on the first time, not knowing to center >>it, I went for a test drive and was still getting some vibration. >> >>Greg >> > > > |
Re: U joints again.
No. As soon as the grease oozes out, it will let the driveshaft run off
center, causes vibrations and premature joint failure. Carl S wrote: > Pack it with enough grease to take out that 1/16" gap and put it back on. > The cross piece will center itself within that 1/16" difference so long as > the caps are tight against the stops. > > Carl > > Carl > "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message > news:1170464917.100649.262010@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > >>On Feb 2, 6:49 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>The caps should fit tight. If they don't, there isn't enough grease in >>>the >>>joint. Grease it up real good through the grease nipple and put the caps >>>on.. You'll have to compress the caps with your hand just to get 'em to >>>fit. >>>If the joint doesn't have a grease fitting, it's probably original so go >>>ahead and replace it anyway. Better to learn in your garage at home then >>>on >>>the side of the road. >>> >>>Carl >>> >>>"jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message >>> >>>news:1170462125.136727.42470@j27g2000cwj.google groups.com... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Well my u joint in the rear was not bad as I suspected, but what I >>>>found was a strap was loose. It was allowing the shaft to move >>>>laterally. Took it to the mechanic, he said u joint was fine. Bearings >>>>were good. He said to center it in the yoke upon reinstallation. There >>>>are tabs or stops to contain the bearing caps on either side of the >>>>yoke, but it is not a tight fit. How can you center it? There is about >>>>1/16" gap. If not centered, won't it vibrate? >>> >>>>Thanks, >>> >>>>Greg- Hide quoted text - >>> >>>- Show quoted text - >> >>Hey Carl, thanks. My mechanic said there wasn't enough grease in them >>so he put some in for me. I put it back together and there is a gap. >>If I loosen the straps, I can move it laterally. I cannot center it. >>Also mine do not have grease fittings. It will be out one way or the >>other about 1/16" Should I take it off again, remove the bearing caps >>and pack it full? I cant get new ones till next week and I need to >>drive it. After I put it back on the first time, not knowing to center >>it, I went for a test drive and was still getting some vibration. >> >>Greg >> > > > |
Re: U joints again.
Convert it to a U-bolt like the Real Jeeps:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/aub.html God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message news:1170462125.136727.42470@j27g2000cwj.googlegro ups.com... > Well my u joint in the rear was not bad as I suspected, but what I > found was a strap was loose. It was allowing the shaft to move > laterally. Took it to the mechanic, he said u joint was fine. Bearings > were good. He said to center it in the yoke upon reinstallation. There > are tabs or stops to contain the bearing caps on either side of the > yoke, but it is not a tight fit. How can you center it? There is about > 1/16" gap. If not centered, won't it vibrate? > > Thanks, > > Greg > |
Re: U joints again.
Convert it to a U-bolt like the Real Jeeps:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/aub.html God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message news:1170462125.136727.42470@j27g2000cwj.googlegro ups.com... > Well my u joint in the rear was not bad as I suspected, but what I > found was a strap was loose. It was allowing the shaft to move > laterally. Took it to the mechanic, he said u joint was fine. Bearings > were good. He said to center it in the yoke upon reinstallation. There > are tabs or stops to contain the bearing caps on either side of the > yoke, but it is not a tight fit. How can you center it? There is about > 1/16" gap. If not centered, won't it vibrate? > > Thanks, > > Greg > |
Re: U joints again.
Convert it to a U-bolt like the Real Jeeps:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/aub.html God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message news:1170462125.136727.42470@j27g2000cwj.googlegro ups.com... > Well my u joint in the rear was not bad as I suspected, but what I > found was a strap was loose. It was allowing the shaft to move > laterally. Took it to the mechanic, he said u joint was fine. Bearings > were good. He said to center it in the yoke upon reinstallation. There > are tabs or stops to contain the bearing caps on either side of the > yoke, but it is not a tight fit. How can you center it? There is about > 1/16" gap. If not centered, won't it vibrate? > > Thanks, > > Greg > |
Re: U joints again.
Convert it to a U-bolt like the Real Jeeps:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/aub.html God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message news:1170462125.136727.42470@j27g2000cwj.googlegro ups.com... > Well my u joint in the rear was not bad as I suspected, but what I > found was a strap was loose. It was allowing the shaft to move > laterally. Took it to the mechanic, he said u joint was fine. Bearings > were good. He said to center it in the yoke upon reinstallation. There > are tabs or stops to contain the bearing caps on either side of the > yoke, but it is not a tight fit. How can you center it? There is about > 1/16" gap. If not centered, won't it vibrate? > > Thanks, > > Greg > |
Re: U joints again.
On Feb 2, 7:49 pm, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote:
> No. As soon as the grease oozes out, it will let the driveshaft run off > center, causes vibrations and premature joint failure. > > > > Carl S wrote: > > Pack it with enough grease to take out that 1/16" gap and put it back on. > > The cross piece will center itself within that 1/16" difference so long as > > the caps are tight against the stops. > > > Carl > > > Carl > > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message > >news:1170464917.100649.262010@a34g2000cwb.googleg roups.com... > > >>On Feb 2, 6:49 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>>The caps should fit tight. If they don't, there isn't enough grease in > >>>the > >>>joint. Grease it up real good through the grease nipple and put the caps > >>>on.. You'll have to compress the caps with your hand just to get 'em to > >>>fit. > >>>If the joint doesn't have a grease fitting, it's probably original so go > >>>ahead and replace it anyway. Better to learn in your garage at home then > >>>on > >>>the side of the road. > > >>>Carl > > >>>"jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message > > >>>news:1170462125.136727.42470@j27g2000cwj.google groups.com... > > >>>>Well my u joint in the rear was not bad as I suspected, but what I > >>>>found was a strap was loose. It was allowing the shaft to move > >>>>laterally. Took it to the mechanic, he said u joint was fine. Bearings > >>>>were good. He said to center it in the yoke upon reinstallation. There > >>>>are tabs or stops to contain the bearing caps on either side of the > >>>>yoke, but it is not a tight fit. How can you center it? There is about > >>>>1/16" gap. If not centered, won't it vibrate? > > >>>>Thanks, > > >>>>Greg- Hide quoted text - > > >>>- Show quoted text - > > >>Hey Carl, thanks. My mechanic said there wasn't enough grease in them > >>so he put some in for me. I put it back together and there is a gap. > >>If I loosen the straps, I can move it laterally. I cannot center it. > >>Also mine do not have grease fittings. It will be out one way or the > >>other about 1/16" Should I take it off again, remove the bearing caps > >>and pack it full? I cant get new ones till next week and I need to > >>drive it. After I put it back on the first time, not knowing to center > >>it, I went for a test drive and was still getting some vibration. > > >>Greg- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Yea I've decided to just have it replaced. Greg |
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