Carl S

Due for a replacement. Be sure you get the greaseable kind, and not the
needle fitting.

Carl


"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1170388832.091035.202000@v33g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
> On Feb 1, 9:59 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 1/16" in the U-joint itself or in the whole shaft? Some play is normal in
>> the whole shaft for the pinion gear and ring gear to mesh, as well as the
>> shaft in the t-case. Any play in the U-joints is unacceptable.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1170388709.199698.24980@q2g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 1, 9:27 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Yes, the jeep should be in gear. Check out your front end and tire
>> >> balance
>> >> if you are getting a steering wheel vibe.
>>
>> >> Carl
>>
>> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1170386450.971974.313420@j27g2000cwj.google groups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Feb 1, 9:14 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Feb 1, 9:07 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > How about the rust? I would go ahead and replace 'em anyway if
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > don't
>> >> >> > know when they were last replaced.
>>
>> >> >> > Carl
>>
>> >> >> > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >> >news:1170385245.953781.269690@a34g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>>
>> >> >> > > On Feb 1, 8:53 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
>> >> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> > >> I do not know if they cross between the 84-86 XJ's and later
>> >> >> > >> models,
>> >> >> > >> but
>> >> >> > >> AFAIK the rear u-joints, front u-joints and front axle
>> >> >> > >> u-joints
>> >> >> > >> are
>> >> >> > >> all
>> >> >> > >> the
>> >> >> > >> same part number for 87-01 XJ's, all YJ's and TJ's. (D35
>> >> >> > >> axle).
>>
>> >> >> > >> Carl
>>
>> >> >> > >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >> > >>news:1170382833.533061.151470@q2g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>>
>> >> >> > >> > On Feb 1, 7:49 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
>> >> >> > >> > wrote:
>> >> >> > >> >> Greg,
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> Unexplained vibes is a big indicator. Block the wheels and
>> >> >> > >> >> climb
>> >> >> > >> >> under
>> >> >> > >> >> there. Rotate the shaft back and fourth and look for slop
>> >> >> > >> >> in
>> >> >> > >> >> the
>> >> >> > >> >> joints.
>> >> >> > >> >> It's $10 for two new joints and takes around 10-15 minutes
>> >> >> > >> >> to
>> >> >> > >> >> change
>> >> >> > >> >> for
>> >> >> > >> >> an
>> >> >> > >> >> experianced person, 45 for a first-timer. They probably
>> >> >> > >> >> need
>> >> >> > >> >> it.
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> Carl
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >> > >> >>news:1170380310.286088.65610@q2g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> > How can I tell when I need to replace my rear u joint on
>> >> >> > >> >> > my
>> >> >> > >> >> > 95
>> >> >> > >> >> > YJ?
>> >> >> > >> >> > Any
>> >> >> > >> >> > visible signs? I am noticing some unexplained vibration.
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> > Thanks,
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >> >> > >> > Hi Carl. Thanks for the advice. Makes sense. My other
>> >> >> > >> > question
>> >> >> > >> > is
>> >> >> > >> > then, I just bought an 86 XJ and with it the guy threw in 4
>> >> >> > >> > brand
>> >> >> > >> > new
>> >> >> > >> > u joints!! Are they universal to Jeeps, say YJ to XJ ?
>>
>> >> >> > >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> >> > >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >> >> > > Well I just went out and climed under it. No noticeable play
>> >> >> > > but
>> >> >> > > that
>> >> >> > > doesn't mean that there isn't any right?
>>
>> >> >> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> >> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >> >> No rust seeping that I saw, it appeared very dry. I am getting some
>> >> >> vibration thru the steering wheel and shifter. When I depress the
>> >> >> clutch or let off the gas, it stops. It seems to be getting worse.
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> thought maybe the u joints, but maybe a slipping clutch? I don't
>> >> >> know,
>> >> >> guess I'll have to take it to my mechanic. I really hate doing
>> >> >> that!
>> >> >> It has a 5 speed and about 80k miles on it.
>>
>> >> >> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >> > Should my Jeep be in gear when I perform this test?
>>
>> >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > Hey Carl, just went out again and checked for side play. Clicking
>> > sound and about 1/16 play. I think its toast. Thanks for the help!
>>
>> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Its in the joint
>

jerryg

On Feb 1, 10:00 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Feb 1, 9:59 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > 1/16" in the U-joint itself or in the whole shaft? Some play is normal in
> > the whole shaft for the pinion gear and ring gear to mesh, as well as the
> > shaft in the t-case. Any play in the U-joints is unacceptable.
>
> > Carl
>
> > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1170388709.199698.24980@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > > On Feb 1, 9:27 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Yes, the jeep should be in gear. Check out your front end and tire
> > >> balance
> > >> if you are getting a steering wheel vibe.
>
> > >> Carl
>
> > >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >>news:1170386450.971974.313420@j27g2000cwj.google groups.com...
>
> > >> > On Feb 1, 9:14 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> > >> >> On Feb 1, 9:07 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> > How about the rust? I would go ahead and replace 'em anyway if you
> > >> >> > don't
> > >> >> > know when they were last replaced.
>
> > >> >> > Carl
>
> > >> >> > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >> >> >news:1170385245.953781.269690@a34g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>
> > >> >> > > On Feb 1, 8:53 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> > >> I do not know if they cross between the 84-86 XJ's and later
> > >> >> > >> models,
> > >> >> > >> but
> > >> >> > >> AFAIK the rear u-joints, front u-joints and front axle u-joints
> > >> >> > >> are
> > >> >> > >> all
> > >> >> > >> the
> > >> >> > >> same part number for 87-01 XJ's, all YJ's and TJ's. (D35 axle).
>
> > >> >> > >> Carl
>
> > >> >> > >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >> >> > >>news:1170382833.533061.151470@q2g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>
> > >> >> > >> > On Feb 1, 7:49 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
> > >> >> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >> > >> >> Greg,
>
> > >> >> > >> >> Unexplained vibes is a big indicator. Block the wheels and
> > >> >> > >> >> climb
> > >> >> > >> >> under
> > >> >> > >> >> there. Rotate the shaft back and fourth and look for slop in
> > >> >> > >> >> the
> > >> >> > >> >> joints.
> > >> >> > >> >> It's $10 for two new joints and takes around 10-15 minutes to
> > >> >> > >> >> change
> > >> >> > >> >> for
> > >> >> > >> >> an
> > >> >> > >> >> experianced person, 45 for a first-timer. They probably need
> > >> >> > >> >> it.
>
> > >> >> > >> >> Carl
>
> > >> >> > >> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >> >> > >> >>news:1170380310.286088.65610@q2g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > >> >> > >> >> > How can I tell when I need to replace my rear u joint on my
> > >> >> > >> >> > 95
> > >> >> > >> >> > YJ?
> > >> >> > >> >> > Any
> > >> >> > >> >> > visible signs? I am noticing some unexplained vibration.
>
> > >> >> > >> >> > Thanks,
>
> > >> >> > >> >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > >> > Hi Carl. Thanks for the advice. Makes sense. My other question
> > >> >> > >> > is
> > >> >> > >> > then, I just bought an 86 XJ and with it the guy threw in 4
> > >> >> > >> > brand
> > >> >> > >> > new
> > >> >> > >> > u joints!! Are they universal to Jeeps, say YJ to XJ ?
>
> > >> >> > >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > > Well I just went out and climed under it. No noticeable play but
> > >> >> > > that
> > >> >> > > doesn't mean that there isn't any right?
>
> > >> >> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> >> No rust seeping that I saw, it appeared very dry. I am getting some
> > >> >> vibration thru the steering wheel and shifter. When I depress the
> > >> >> clutch or let off the gas, it stops. It seems to be getting worse. I
> > >> >> thought maybe the u joints, but maybe a slipping clutch? I don't know,
> > >> >> guess I'll have to take it to my mechanic. I really hate doing that!
> > >> >> It has a 5 speed and about 80k miles on it.
>
> > >> >> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> > Should my Jeep be in gear when I perform this test?
>
> > >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Hey Carl, just went out again and checked for side play. Clicking
> > > sound and about 1/16 play. I think its toast. Thanks for the help!
>
> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Its in the joint- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Lateral slop

jerryg

On Feb 1, 10:00 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Feb 1, 9:59 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > 1/16" in the U-joint itself or in the whole shaft? Some play is normal in
> > the whole shaft for the pinion gear and ring gear to mesh, as well as the
> > shaft in the t-case. Any play in the U-joints is unacceptable.
>
> > Carl
>
> > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1170388709.199698.24980@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > > On Feb 1, 9:27 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Yes, the jeep should be in gear. Check out your front end and tire
> > >> balance
> > >> if you are getting a steering wheel vibe.
>
> > >> Carl
>
> > >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >>news:1170386450.971974.313420@j27g2000cwj.google groups.com...
>
> > >> > On Feb 1, 9:14 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> > >> >> On Feb 1, 9:07 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> > How about the rust? I would go ahead and replace 'em anyway if you
> > >> >> > don't
> > >> >> > know when they were last replaced.
>
> > >> >> > Carl
>
> > >> >> > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >> >> >news:1170385245.953781.269690@a34g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>
> > >> >> > > On Feb 1, 8:53 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> > >> I do not know if they cross between the 84-86 XJ's and later
> > >> >> > >> models,
> > >> >> > >> but
> > >> >> > >> AFAIK the rear u-joints, front u-joints and front axle u-joints
> > >> >> > >> are
> > >> >> > >> all
> > >> >> > >> the
> > >> >> > >> same part number for 87-01 XJ's, all YJ's and TJ's. (D35 axle).
>
> > >> >> > >> Carl
>
> > >> >> > >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >> >> > >>news:1170382833.533061.151470@q2g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>
> > >> >> > >> > On Feb 1, 7:49 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
> > >> >> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >> > >> >> Greg,
>
> > >> >> > >> >> Unexplained vibes is a big indicator. Block the wheels and
> > >> >> > >> >> climb
> > >> >> > >> >> under
> > >> >> > >> >> there. Rotate the shaft back and fourth and look for slop in
> > >> >> > >> >> the
> > >> >> > >> >> joints.
> > >> >> > >> >> It's $10 for two new joints and takes around 10-15 minutes to
> > >> >> > >> >> change
> > >> >> > >> >> for
> > >> >> > >> >> an
> > >> >> > >> >> experianced person, 45 for a first-timer. They probably need
> > >> >> > >> >> it.
>
> > >> >> > >> >> Carl
>
> > >> >> > >> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >> >> > >> >>news:1170380310.286088.65610@q2g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > >> >> > >> >> > How can I tell when I need to replace my rear u joint on my
> > >> >> > >> >> > 95
> > >> >> > >> >> > YJ?
> > >> >> > >> >> > Any
> > >> >> > >> >> > visible signs? I am noticing some unexplained vibration.
>
> > >> >> > >> >> > Thanks,
>
> > >> >> > >> >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > >> > Hi Carl. Thanks for the advice. Makes sense. My other question
> > >> >> > >> > is
> > >> >> > >> > then, I just bought an 86 XJ and with it the guy threw in 4
> > >> >> > >> > brand
> > >> >> > >> > new
> > >> >> > >> > u joints!! Are they universal to Jeeps, say YJ to XJ ?
>
> > >> >> > >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > > Well I just went out and climed under it. No noticeable play but
> > >> >> > > that
> > >> >> > > doesn't mean that there isn't any right?
>
> > >> >> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> >> No rust seeping that I saw, it appeared very dry. I am getting some
> > >> >> vibration thru the steering wheel and shifter. When I depress the
> > >> >> clutch or let off the gas, it stops. It seems to be getting worse. I
> > >> >> thought maybe the u joints, but maybe a slipping clutch? I don't know,
> > >> >> guess I'll have to take it to my mechanic. I really hate doing that!
> > >> >> It has a 5 speed and about 80k miles on it.
>
> > >> >> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> > Should my Jeep be in gear when I perform this test?
>
> > >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Hey Carl, just went out again and checked for side play. Clicking
> > > sound and about 1/16 play. I think its toast. Thanks for the help!
>
> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Its in the joint- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Lateral slop

jerryg

On Feb 1, 10:00 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Feb 1, 9:59 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > 1/16" in the U-joint itself or in the whole shaft? Some play is normal in
> > the whole shaft for the pinion gear and ring gear to mesh, as well as the
> > shaft in the t-case. Any play in the U-joints is unacceptable.
>
> > Carl
>
> > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1170388709.199698.24980@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > > On Feb 1, 9:27 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Yes, the jeep should be in gear. Check out your front end and tire
> > >> balance
> > >> if you are getting a steering wheel vibe.
>
> > >> Carl
>
> > >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >>news:1170386450.971974.313420@j27g2000cwj.google groups.com...
>
> > >> > On Feb 1, 9:14 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> > >> >> On Feb 1, 9:07 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> > How about the rust? I would go ahead and replace 'em anyway if you
> > >> >> > don't
> > >> >> > know when they were last replaced.
>
> > >> >> > Carl
>
> > >> >> > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >> >> >news:1170385245.953781.269690@a34g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>
> > >> >> > > On Feb 1, 8:53 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> > >> I do not know if they cross between the 84-86 XJ's and later
> > >> >> > >> models,
> > >> >> > >> but
> > >> >> > >> AFAIK the rear u-joints, front u-joints and front axle u-joints
> > >> >> > >> are
> > >> >> > >> all
> > >> >> > >> the
> > >> >> > >> same part number for 87-01 XJ's, all YJ's and TJ's. (D35 axle).
>
> > >> >> > >> Carl
>
> > >> >> > >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >> >> > >>news:1170382833.533061.151470@q2g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>
> > >> >> > >> > On Feb 1, 7:49 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
> > >> >> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >> > >> >> Greg,
>
> > >> >> > >> >> Unexplained vibes is a big indicator. Block the wheels and
> > >> >> > >> >> climb
> > >> >> > >> >> under
> > >> >> > >> >> there. Rotate the shaft back and fourth and look for slop in
> > >> >> > >> >> the
> > >> >> > >> >> joints.
> > >> >> > >> >> It's $10 for two new joints and takes around 10-15 minutes to
> > >> >> > >> >> change
> > >> >> > >> >> for
> > >> >> > >> >> an
> > >> >> > >> >> experianced person, 45 for a first-timer. They probably need
> > >> >> > >> >> it.
>
> > >> >> > >> >> Carl
>
> > >> >> > >> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >> >> > >> >>news:1170380310.286088.65610@q2g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > >> >> > >> >> > How can I tell when I need to replace my rear u joint on my
> > >> >> > >> >> > 95
> > >> >> > >> >> > YJ?
> > >> >> > >> >> > Any
> > >> >> > >> >> > visible signs? I am noticing some unexplained vibration.
>
> > >> >> > >> >> > Thanks,
>
> > >> >> > >> >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > >> > Hi Carl. Thanks for the advice. Makes sense. My other question
> > >> >> > >> > is
> > >> >> > >> > then, I just bought an 86 XJ and with it the guy threw in 4
> > >> >> > >> > brand
> > >> >> > >> > new
> > >> >> > >> > u joints!! Are they universal to Jeeps, say YJ to XJ ?
>
> > >> >> > >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > > Well I just went out and climed under it. No noticeable play but
> > >> >> > > that
> > >> >> > > doesn't mean that there isn't any right?
>
> > >> >> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> >> No rust seeping that I saw, it appeared very dry. I am getting some
> > >> >> vibration thru the steering wheel and shifter. When I depress the
> > >> >> clutch or let off the gas, it stops. It seems to be getting worse. I
> > >> >> thought maybe the u joints, but maybe a slipping clutch? I don't know,
> > >> >> guess I'll have to take it to my mechanic. I really hate doing that!
> > >> >> It has a 5 speed and about 80k miles on it.
>
> > >> >> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> > Should my Jeep be in gear when I perform this test?
>
> > >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Hey Carl, just went out again and checked for side play. Clicking
> > > sound and about 1/16 play. I think its toast. Thanks for the help!
>
> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Its in the joint- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Lateral slop

jerryg

On Feb 1, 10:00 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Feb 1, 9:59 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > 1/16" in the U-joint itself or in the whole shaft? Some play is normal in
> > the whole shaft for the pinion gear and ring gear to mesh, as well as the
> > shaft in the t-case. Any play in the U-joints is unacceptable.
>
> > Carl
>
> > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1170388709.199698.24980@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > > On Feb 1, 9:27 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Yes, the jeep should be in gear. Check out your front end and tire
> > >> balance
> > >> if you are getting a steering wheel vibe.
>
> > >> Carl
>
> > >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >>news:1170386450.971974.313420@j27g2000cwj.google groups.com...
>
> > >> > On Feb 1, 9:14 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> > >> >> On Feb 1, 9:07 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> > How about the rust? I would go ahead and replace 'em anyway if you
> > >> >> > don't
> > >> >> > know when they were last replaced.
>
> > >> >> > Carl
>
> > >> >> > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >> >> >news:1170385245.953781.269690@a34g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>
> > >> >> > > On Feb 1, 8:53 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> > >> I do not know if they cross between the 84-86 XJ's and later
> > >> >> > >> models,
> > >> >> > >> but
> > >> >> > >> AFAIK the rear u-joints, front u-joints and front axle u-joints
> > >> >> > >> are
> > >> >> > >> all
> > >> >> > >> the
> > >> >> > >> same part number for 87-01 XJ's, all YJ's and TJ's. (D35 axle).
>
> > >> >> > >> Carl
>
> > >> >> > >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >> >> > >>news:1170382833.533061.151470@q2g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>
> > >> >> > >> > On Feb 1, 7:49 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
> > >> >> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >> > >> >> Greg,
>
> > >> >> > >> >> Unexplained vibes is a big indicator. Block the wheels and
> > >> >> > >> >> climb
> > >> >> > >> >> under
> > >> >> > >> >> there. Rotate the shaft back and fourth and look for slop in
> > >> >> > >> >> the
> > >> >> > >> >> joints.
> > >> >> > >> >> It's $10 for two new joints and takes around 10-15 minutes to
> > >> >> > >> >> change
> > >> >> > >> >> for
> > >> >> > >> >> an
> > >> >> > >> >> experianced person, 45 for a first-timer. They probably need
> > >> >> > >> >> it.
>
> > >> >> > >> >> Carl
>
> > >> >> > >> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > >> >> > >> >>news:1170380310.286088.65610@q2g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > >> >> > >> >> > How can I tell when I need to replace my rear u joint on my
> > >> >> > >> >> > 95
> > >> >> > >> >> > YJ?
> > >> >> > >> >> > Any
> > >> >> > >> >> > visible signs? I am noticing some unexplained vibration.
>
> > >> >> > >> >> > Thanks,
>
> > >> >> > >> >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > >> > Hi Carl. Thanks for the advice. Makes sense. My other question
> > >> >> > >> > is
> > >> >> > >> > then, I just bought an 86 XJ and with it the guy threw in 4
> > >> >> > >> > brand
> > >> >> > >> > new
> > >> >> > >> > u joints!! Are they universal to Jeeps, say YJ to XJ ?
>
> > >> >> > >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > > Well I just went out and climed under it. No noticeable play but
> > >> >> > > that
> > >> >> > > doesn't mean that there isn't any right?
>
> > >> >> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> >> No rust seeping that I saw, it appeared very dry. I am getting some
> > >> >> vibration thru the steering wheel and shifter. When I depress the
> > >> >> clutch or let off the gas, it stops. It seems to be getting worse. I
> > >> >> thought maybe the u joints, but maybe a slipping clutch? I don't know,
> > >> >> guess I'll have to take it to my mechanic. I really hate doing that!
> > >> >> It has a 5 speed and about 80k miles on it.
>
> > >> >> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> > Should my Jeep be in gear when I perform this test?
>
> > >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Hey Carl, just went out again and checked for side play. Clicking
> > > sound and about 1/16 play. I think its toast. Thanks for the help!
>
> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Its in the joint- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Lateral slop

jerryg

On Feb 1, 10:15 pm, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> The best way to tell is to take off the drive shaft (not that hard) and feel
> for roughness or slop in the joints. They can feel nice and tight when you
> crawl under the vehicle, but if they are starting to seize up they will get
> loose pretty quick. One good thing is that the drive shaft is
> (theoretically) too short to pole vault your vehicle that far when the front
> joint breaks, and Myth Busters debunked that one anyway.
>
> The vibration stopping "when I let off the gas or depress the clutch" is a
> pretty good sign of a bad U-joint.
>
> Earle
>
> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1170387139.631758.294900@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 1, 9:30 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 1, 9:27 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Yes, the jeep should be in gear. Check out your front end and tire
> balance
> > > > if you are getting a steering wheel vibe.
>
> > > > Carl
>
> > > > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:1170386450.971974.313420@j27g2000cwj.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > > > On Feb 1, 9:14 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> > > > >> On Feb 1, 9:07 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >> > How about the rust? I would go ahead and replace 'em anyway if
> you
> > > > >> > don't
> > > > >> > know when they were last replaced.
>
> > > > >> > Carl
>
> > > > >> > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >> >news:1170385245.953781.269690@a34g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > > >> > > On Feb 1, 8:53 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >> > >> I do not know if they cross between the 84-86 XJ's and later
> models,
> > > > >> > >> but
> > > > >> > >> AFAIK the rear u-joints, front u-joints and front axle
> u-joints are
> > > > >> > >> all
> > > > >> > >> the
> > > > >> > >> same part number for 87-01 XJ's, all YJ's and TJ's. (D35
> axle).
>
> > > > >> > >> Carl
>
> > > > >> > >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >> > >>news:1170382833.533061.151470@q2g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > > >> > >> > On Feb 1, 7:49 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >> > >> >> Greg,
>
> > > > >> > >> >> Unexplained vibes is a big indicator. Block the wheels and
> climb
> > > > >> > >> >> under
> > > > >> > >> >> there. Rotate the shaft back and fourth and look for slop
> in the
> > > > >> > >> >> joints.
> > > > >> > >> >> It's $10 for two new joints and takes around 10-15 minutes
> to
> > > > >> > >> >> change
> > > > >> > >> >> for
> > > > >> > >> >> an
> > > > >> > >> >> experianced person, 45 for a first-timer. They probably
> need it.
>
> > > > >> > >> >> Carl
>
> > > > >> > >> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >> > >> >>news:1170380310.286088.65610@q2g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > > > >> > >> >> > How can I tell when I need to replace my rear u joint on
> my 95
> > > > >> > >> >> > YJ?
> > > > >> > >> >> > Any
> > > > >> > >> >> > visible signs? I am noticing some unexplained vibration.
>
> > > > >> > >> >> > Thanks,
>
> > > > >> > >> >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > >> > >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > >> > >> > Hi Carl. Thanks for the advice. Makes sense. My other
> question is
> > > > >> > >> > then, I just bought an 86 XJ and with it the guy threw in 4
> brand
> > > > >> > >> > new
> > > > >> > >> > u joints!! Are they universal to Jeeps, say YJ to XJ ?
>
> > > > >> > >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > >> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > >> > > Well I just went out and climed under it. No noticeable play
> but that
> > > > >> > > doesn't mean that there isn't any right?
>
> > > > >> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > >> No rust seeping that I saw, it appeared very dry. I am getting some
> > > > >> vibration thru the steering wheel and shifter. When I depress the
> > > > >> clutch or let off the gas, it stops. It seems to be getting worse.
> I
> > > > >> thought maybe the u joints, but maybe a slipping clutch? I don't
> know,
> > > > >> guess I'll have to take it to my mechanic. I really hate doing
> that!
> > > > >> It has a 5 speed and about 80k miles on it.
>
> > > > >> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > Should my Jeep be in gear when I perform this test?
>
> > > > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Why when I let off the gas or depress the clutch does it stop. That
> > > wouldn't be unbalanced tires or front end probs wpuld it?
>
> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Also feel it in the shifter as well.
>
> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes I am afraid thats what it is. It is terribly obvious. If you could
only see what I see!!

Greg

jerryg

On Feb 1, 10:15 pm, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> The best way to tell is to take off the drive shaft (not that hard) and feel
> for roughness or slop in the joints. They can feel nice and tight when you
> crawl under the vehicle, but if they are starting to seize up they will get
> loose pretty quick. One good thing is that the drive shaft is
> (theoretically) too short to pole vault your vehicle that far when the front
> joint breaks, and Myth Busters debunked that one anyway.
>
> The vibration stopping "when I let off the gas or depress the clutch" is a
> pretty good sign of a bad U-joint.
>
> Earle
>
> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1170387139.631758.294900@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 1, 9:30 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 1, 9:27 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Yes, the jeep should be in gear. Check out your front end and tire
> balance
> > > > if you are getting a steering wheel vibe.
>
> > > > Carl
>
> > > > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:1170386450.971974.313420@j27g2000cwj.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > > > On Feb 1, 9:14 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> > > > >> On Feb 1, 9:07 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >> > How about the rust? I would go ahead and replace 'em anyway if
> you
> > > > >> > don't
> > > > >> > know when they were last replaced.
>
> > > > >> > Carl
>
> > > > >> > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >> >news:1170385245.953781.269690@a34g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > > >> > > On Feb 1, 8:53 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >> > >> I do not know if they cross between the 84-86 XJ's and later
> models,
> > > > >> > >> but
> > > > >> > >> AFAIK the rear u-joints, front u-joints and front axle
> u-joints are
> > > > >> > >> all
> > > > >> > >> the
> > > > >> > >> same part number for 87-01 XJ's, all YJ's and TJ's. (D35
> axle).
>
> > > > >> > >> Carl
>
> > > > >> > >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >> > >>news:1170382833.533061.151470@q2g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > > >> > >> > On Feb 1, 7:49 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >> > >> >> Greg,
>
> > > > >> > >> >> Unexplained vibes is a big indicator. Block the wheels and
> climb
> > > > >> > >> >> under
> > > > >> > >> >> there. Rotate the shaft back and fourth and look for slop
> in the
> > > > >> > >> >> joints.
> > > > >> > >> >> It's $10 for two new joints and takes around 10-15 minutes
> to
> > > > >> > >> >> change
> > > > >> > >> >> for
> > > > >> > >> >> an
> > > > >> > >> >> experianced person, 45 for a first-timer. They probably
> need it.
>
> > > > >> > >> >> Carl
>
> > > > >> > >> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >> > >> >>news:1170380310.286088.65610@q2g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > > > >> > >> >> > How can I tell when I need to replace my rear u joint on
> my 95
> > > > >> > >> >> > YJ?
> > > > >> > >> >> > Any
> > > > >> > >> >> > visible signs? I am noticing some unexplained vibration.
>
> > > > >> > >> >> > Thanks,
>
> > > > >> > >> >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > >> > >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > >> > >> > Hi Carl. Thanks for the advice. Makes sense. My other
> question is
> > > > >> > >> > then, I just bought an 86 XJ and with it the guy threw in 4
> brand
> > > > >> > >> > new
> > > > >> > >> > u joints!! Are they universal to Jeeps, say YJ to XJ ?
>
> > > > >> > >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > >> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > >> > > Well I just went out and climed under it. No noticeable play
> but that
> > > > >> > > doesn't mean that there isn't any right?
>
> > > > >> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > >> No rust seeping that I saw, it appeared very dry. I am getting some
> > > > >> vibration thru the steering wheel and shifter. When I depress the
> > > > >> clutch or let off the gas, it stops. It seems to be getting worse.
> I
> > > > >> thought maybe the u joints, but maybe a slipping clutch? I don't
> know,
> > > > >> guess I'll have to take it to my mechanic. I really hate doing
> that!
> > > > >> It has a 5 speed and about 80k miles on it.
>
> > > > >> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > Should my Jeep be in gear when I perform this test?
>
> > > > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Why when I let off the gas or depress the clutch does it stop. That
> > > wouldn't be unbalanced tires or front end probs wpuld it?
>
> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Also feel it in the shifter as well.
>
> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes I am afraid thats what it is. It is terribly obvious. If you could
only see what I see!!

Greg

jerryg

On Feb 1, 10:15 pm, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> The best way to tell is to take off the drive shaft (not that hard) and feel
> for roughness or slop in the joints. They can feel nice and tight when you
> crawl under the vehicle, but if they are starting to seize up they will get
> loose pretty quick. One good thing is that the drive shaft is
> (theoretically) too short to pole vault your vehicle that far when the front
> joint breaks, and Myth Busters debunked that one anyway.
>
> The vibration stopping "when I let off the gas or depress the clutch" is a
> pretty good sign of a bad U-joint.
>
> Earle
>
> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1170387139.631758.294900@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 1, 9:30 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 1, 9:27 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Yes, the jeep should be in gear. Check out your front end and tire
> balance
> > > > if you are getting a steering wheel vibe.
>
> > > > Carl
>
> > > > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:1170386450.971974.313420@j27g2000cwj.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > > > On Feb 1, 9:14 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> > > > >> On Feb 1, 9:07 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >> > How about the rust? I would go ahead and replace 'em anyway if
> you
> > > > >> > don't
> > > > >> > know when they were last replaced.
>
> > > > >> > Carl
>
> > > > >> > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >> >news:1170385245.953781.269690@a34g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > > >> > > On Feb 1, 8:53 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >> > >> I do not know if they cross between the 84-86 XJ's and later
> models,
> > > > >> > >> but
> > > > >> > >> AFAIK the rear u-joints, front u-joints and front axle
> u-joints are
> > > > >> > >> all
> > > > >> > >> the
> > > > >> > >> same part number for 87-01 XJ's, all YJ's and TJ's. (D35
> axle).
>
> > > > >> > >> Carl
>
> > > > >> > >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >> > >>news:1170382833.533061.151470@q2g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > > >> > >> > On Feb 1, 7:49 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >> > >> >> Greg,
>
> > > > >> > >> >> Unexplained vibes is a big indicator. Block the wheels and
> climb
> > > > >> > >> >> under
> > > > >> > >> >> there. Rotate the shaft back and fourth and look for slop
> in the
> > > > >> > >> >> joints.
> > > > >> > >> >> It's $10 for two new joints and takes around 10-15 minutes
> to
> > > > >> > >> >> change
> > > > >> > >> >> for
> > > > >> > >> >> an
> > > > >> > >> >> experianced person, 45 for a first-timer. They probably
> need it.
>
> > > > >> > >> >> Carl
>
> > > > >> > >> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >> > >> >>news:1170380310.286088.65610@q2g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > > > >> > >> >> > How can I tell when I need to replace my rear u joint on
> my 95
> > > > >> > >> >> > YJ?
> > > > >> > >> >> > Any
> > > > >> > >> >> > visible signs? I am noticing some unexplained vibration.
>
> > > > >> > >> >> > Thanks,
>
> > > > >> > >> >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > >> > >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > >> > >> > Hi Carl. Thanks for the advice. Makes sense. My other
> question is
> > > > >> > >> > then, I just bought an 86 XJ and with it the guy threw in 4
> brand
> > > > >> > >> > new
> > > > >> > >> > u joints!! Are they universal to Jeeps, say YJ to XJ ?
>
> > > > >> > >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > >> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > >> > > Well I just went out and climed under it. No noticeable play
> but that
> > > > >> > > doesn't mean that there isn't any right?
>
> > > > >> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > >> No rust seeping that I saw, it appeared very dry. I am getting some
> > > > >> vibration thru the steering wheel and shifter. When I depress the
> > > > >> clutch or let off the gas, it stops. It seems to be getting worse.
> I
> > > > >> thought maybe the u joints, but maybe a slipping clutch? I don't
> know,
> > > > >> guess I'll have to take it to my mechanic. I really hate doing
> that!
> > > > >> It has a 5 speed and about 80k miles on it.
>
> > > > >> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > Should my Jeep be in gear when I perform this test?
>
> > > > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Why when I let off the gas or depress the clutch does it stop. That
> > > wouldn't be unbalanced tires or front end probs wpuld it?
>
> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Also feel it in the shifter as well.
>
> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes I am afraid thats what it is. It is terribly obvious. If you could
only see what I see!!

Greg

jerryg

On Feb 1, 10:15 pm, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> The best way to tell is to take off the drive shaft (not that hard) and feel
> for roughness or slop in the joints. They can feel nice and tight when you
> crawl under the vehicle, but if they are starting to seize up they will get
> loose pretty quick. One good thing is that the drive shaft is
> (theoretically) too short to pole vault your vehicle that far when the front
> joint breaks, and Myth Busters debunked that one anyway.
>
> The vibration stopping "when I let off the gas or depress the clutch" is a
> pretty good sign of a bad U-joint.
>
> Earle
>
> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1170387139.631758.294900@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 1, 9:30 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 1, 9:27 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Yes, the jeep should be in gear. Check out your front end and tire
> balance
> > > > if you are getting a steering wheel vibe.
>
> > > > Carl
>
> > > > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:1170386450.971974.313420@j27g2000cwj.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > > > On Feb 1, 9:14 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> > > > >> On Feb 1, 9:07 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >> > How about the rust? I would go ahead and replace 'em anyway if
> you
> > > > >> > don't
> > > > >> > know when they were last replaced.
>
> > > > >> > Carl
>
> > > > >> > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >> >news:1170385245.953781.269690@a34g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > > >> > > On Feb 1, 8:53 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >> > >> I do not know if they cross between the 84-86 XJ's and later
> models,
> > > > >> > >> but
> > > > >> > >> AFAIK the rear u-joints, front u-joints and front axle
> u-joints are
> > > > >> > >> all
> > > > >> > >> the
> > > > >> > >> same part number for 87-01 XJ's, all YJ's and TJ's. (D35
> axle).
>
> > > > >> > >> Carl
>
> > > > >> > >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >> > >>news:1170382833.533061.151470@q2g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > > >> > >> > On Feb 1, 7:49 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >> > >> >> Greg,
>
> > > > >> > >> >> Unexplained vibes is a big indicator. Block the wheels and
> climb
> > > > >> > >> >> under
> > > > >> > >> >> there. Rotate the shaft back and fourth and look for slop
> in the
> > > > >> > >> >> joints.
> > > > >> > >> >> It's $10 for two new joints and takes around 10-15 minutes
> to
> > > > >> > >> >> change
> > > > >> > >> >> for
> > > > >> > >> >> an
> > > > >> > >> >> experianced person, 45 for a first-timer. They probably
> need it.
>
> > > > >> > >> >> Carl
>
> > > > >> > >> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >> > >> >>news:1170380310.286088.65610@q2g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > > > >> > >> >> > How can I tell when I need to replace my rear u joint on
> my 95
> > > > >> > >> >> > YJ?
> > > > >> > >> >> > Any
> > > > >> > >> >> > visible signs? I am noticing some unexplained vibration.
>
> > > > >> > >> >> > Thanks,
>
> > > > >> > >> >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > >> > >> >> - Show quoted text -
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> > > > >> > >> > Hi Carl. Thanks for the advice. Makes sense. My other
> question is
> > > > >> > >> > then, I just bought an 86 XJ and with it the guy threw in 4
> brand
> > > > >> > >> > new
> > > > >> > >> > u joints!! Are they universal to Jeeps, say YJ to XJ ?
>
> > > > >> > >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > >> > > Well I just went out and climed under it. No noticeable play
> but that
> > > > >> > > doesn't mean that there isn't any right?
>
> > > > >> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > >> No rust seeping that I saw, it appeared very dry. I am getting some
> > > > >> vibration thru the steering wheel and shifter. When I depress the
> > > > >> clutch or let off the gas, it stops. It seems to be getting worse.
> I
> > > > >> thought maybe the u joints, but maybe a slipping clutch? I don't
> know,
> > > > >> guess I'll have to take it to my mechanic. I really hate doing
> that!
> > > > >> It has a 5 speed and about 80k miles on it.
>
> > > > >> Greg- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > Should my Jeep be in gear when I perform this test?
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> > > > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
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> > > Why when I let off the gas or depress the clutch does it stop. That
> > > wouldn't be unbalanced tires or front end probs wpuld it?
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> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
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> > Also feel it in the shifter as well.
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Yes I am afraid thats what it is. It is terribly obvious. If you could
only see what I see!!

Greg

Earle Horton

The best way to tell is to take off the drive shaft (not that hard) and feel
for roughness or slop in the joints. They can feel nice and tight when you
crawl under the vehicle, but if they are starting to seize up they will get
loose pretty quick. One good thing is that the drive shaft is
(theoretically) too short to pole vault your vehicle that far when the front
joint breaks, and Myth Busters debunked that one anyway.

The vibration stopping "when I let off the gas or depress the clutch" is a
pretty good sign of a bad U-joint.

Earle

"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1170387139.631758.294900@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> On Feb 1, 9:30 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 1, 9:27 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Yes, the jeep should be in gear. Check out your front end and tire
balance
> > > if you are getting a steering wheel vibe.
> >
> > > Carl
> >
> > > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
> >
> > >news:1170386450.971974.313420@j27g2000cwj.googleg roups.com...
> >
> > > > On Feb 1, 9:14 pm, "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> > > >> On Feb 1, 9:07 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >> > How about the rust? I would go ahead and replace 'em anyway if
you
> > > >> > don't
> > > >> > know when they were last replaced.
> >
> > > >> > Carl
> >
> > > >> > "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
> >
> > > >> >news:1170385245.953781.269690@a34g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
> >
> > > >> > > On Feb 1, 8:53 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
wrote:
> > > >> > >> I do not know if they cross between the 84-86 XJ's and later
models,
> > > >> > >> but
> > > >> > >> AFAIK the rear u-joints, front u-joints and front axle
u-joints are
> > > >> > >> all
> > > >> > >> the
> > > >> > >> same part number for 87-01 XJ's, all YJ's and TJ's. (D35
axle).
> >
> > > >> > >> Carl
> >
> > > >> > >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
> >
> > > >> > >>news:1170382833.533061.151470@q2g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
> >
> > > >> > >> > On Feb 1, 7:49 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com>
wrote:
> > > >> > >> >> Greg,
> >
> > > >> > >> >> Unexplained vibes is a big indicator. Block the wheels and
climb
> > > >> > >> >> under
> > > >> > >> >> there. Rotate the shaft back and fourth and look for slop
in the
> > > >> > >> >> joints.
> > > >> > >> >> It's $10 for two new joints and takes around 10-15 minutes
to
> > > >> > >> >> change
> > > >> > >> >> for
> > > >> > >> >> an
> > > >> > >> >> experianced person, 45 for a first-timer. They probably
need it.
> >
> > > >> > >> >> Carl
> >
> > > >> > >> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in message
> >
> > > >> > >> >>news:1170380310.286088.65610@q2g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > > >> > >> >> > How can I tell when I need to replace my rear u joint on
my 95
> > > >> > >> >> > YJ?
> > > >> > >> >> > Any
> > > >> > >> >> > visible signs? I am noticing some unexplained vibration.
> >
> > > >> > >> >> > Thanks,
> >
> > > >> > >> >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > >> > >> >> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > >> > >> > Hi Carl. Thanks for the advice. Makes sense. My other
question is
> > > >> > >> > then, I just bought an 86 XJ and with it the guy threw in 4
brand
> > > >> > >> > new
> > > >> > >> > u joints!! Are they universal to Jeeps, say YJ to XJ ?
> >
> > > >> > >> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > >> > >> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > >> > > Well I just went out and climed under it. No noticeable play
but that
> > > >> > > doesn't mean that there isn't any right?
> >
> > > >> > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > >> > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > >> No rust seeping that I saw, it appeared very dry. I am getting some
> > > >> vibration thru the steering wheel and shifter. When I depress the
> > > >> clutch or let off the gas, it stops. It seems to be getting worse.
I
> > > >> thought maybe the u joints, but maybe a slipping clutch? I don't
know,
> > > >> guess I'll have to take it to my mechanic. I really hate doing
that!
> > > >> It has a 5 speed and about 80k miles on it.
> >
> > > >> Greg- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > >> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > > Should my Jeep be in gear when I perform this test?
> >
> > > > Greg- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > Why when I let off the gas or depress the clutch does it stop. That
> > wouldn't be unbalanced tires or front end probs wpuld it?
> >
> > Greg- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Also feel it in the shifter as well.
>
> Greg
>