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>> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
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>> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
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>> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
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>> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
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>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
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>> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
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>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
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Re: Tyres
Good information.... if they would have tested in the mud (or deep snow).
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JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i
"Billy Ray" wrote in message ...
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> >> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
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> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
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JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i
"Billy Ray" wrote in message ...
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> >> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
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> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
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Re: Tyres
Good information.... if they would have tested in the mud (or deep snow).
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JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i
"Billy Ray" wrote in message ...
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
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> >> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
> >>
> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i
"Billy Ray" wrote in message ...
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
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> >> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
> >>
> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
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Re: Tyres
Good information.... if they would have tested in the mud (or deep snow).
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i
"Billy Ray" wrote in message ...
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
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> >> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
> >>
> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i
"Billy Ray" wrote in message ...
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
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> >> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
> >>
> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
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Re: Tyres
They were reviewed in the snow and on ice.
The BFGs mentioned has 'fair ice traction and not acceptable deep snow
traction.
The Goodyear MTRs have not acceptable snow and ice traction.
They both rank in reviews in the lower half of the ratings.
Now, if you click on the individual tires it will give you a choice to read
the reviews. In the case of the BFGs there are 231 reviews, the Goodyears
have 505 reviews.
It also give you options to review other brands of tires in the same class
(off-road max traction)
If I were to purchase a set in this class I would certainly look at the
Kumhos. It is, perhaps, a brand unfamiliar to many but as I have a set of
their Venture ATs that I am very pleased with I would give then a look.
I would also reference other resources that offer information from tests and
usage such as www.offroad.com To save you the trouble I will cite the
specific web pages:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/kumho/
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/kumho/index2.html
Over a two year period these tires were subjected to use , as they state,
intended to make them fail and fail was something they never did.
But then..... why should I mention this? Well..... the OP asked for
opinions and I directly offered the opinions of 736 people who own these
tires (231 + 505) and at in this message I added mine and the thoughts of
the reviewers at offroad.com about a brand I would consider.
mG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:JAScf.12689$cg.5436@news02.roc.ny...
> Good information.... if they would have tested in the mud (or deep snow).
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> Warn X8000i
>
> "Billy Ray" wrote in message ...
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
>>
>>
>> >> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
>> >>
>> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
The BFGs mentioned has 'fair ice traction and not acceptable deep snow
traction.
The Goodyear MTRs have not acceptable snow and ice traction.
They both rank in reviews in the lower half of the ratings.
Now, if you click on the individual tires it will give you a choice to read
the reviews. In the case of the BFGs there are 231 reviews, the Goodyears
have 505 reviews.
It also give you options to review other brands of tires in the same class
(off-road max traction)
If I were to purchase a set in this class I would certainly look at the
Kumhos. It is, perhaps, a brand unfamiliar to many but as I have a set of
their Venture ATs that I am very pleased with I would give then a look.
I would also reference other resources that offer information from tests and
usage such as www.offroad.com To save you the trouble I will cite the
specific web pages:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/kumho/
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/kumho/index2.html
Over a two year period these tires were subjected to use , as they state,
intended to make them fail and fail was something they never did.
But then..... why should I mention this? Well..... the OP asked for
opinions and I directly offered the opinions of 736 people who own these
tires (231 + 505) and at in this message I added mine and the thoughts of
the reviewers at offroad.com about a brand I would consider.
mG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:JAScf.12689$cg.5436@news02.roc.ny...
> Good information.... if they would have tested in the mud (or deep snow).
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> Warn X8000i
>
> "Billy Ray" wrote in message ...
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
>>
>>
>> >> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
>> >>
>> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
#18
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Re: Tyres
They were reviewed in the snow and on ice.
The BFGs mentioned has 'fair ice traction and not acceptable deep snow
traction.
The Goodyear MTRs have not acceptable snow and ice traction.
They both rank in reviews in the lower half of the ratings.
Now, if you click on the individual tires it will give you a choice to read
the reviews. In the case of the BFGs there are 231 reviews, the Goodyears
have 505 reviews.
It also give you options to review other brands of tires in the same class
(off-road max traction)
If I were to purchase a set in this class I would certainly look at the
Kumhos. It is, perhaps, a brand unfamiliar to many but as I have a set of
their Venture ATs that I am very pleased with I would give then a look.
I would also reference other resources that offer information from tests and
usage such as www.offroad.com To save you the trouble I will cite the
specific web pages:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/kumho/
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/kumho/index2.html
Over a two year period these tires were subjected to use , as they state,
intended to make them fail and fail was something they never did.
But then..... why should I mention this? Well..... the OP asked for
opinions and I directly offered the opinions of 736 people who own these
tires (231 + 505) and at in this message I added mine and the thoughts of
the reviewers at offroad.com about a brand I would consider.
mG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:JAScf.12689$cg.5436@news02.roc.ny...
> Good information.... if they would have tested in the mud (or deep snow).
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> Warn X8000i
>
> "Billy Ray" wrote in message ...
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
>>
>>
>> >> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
>> >>
>> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
The BFGs mentioned has 'fair ice traction and not acceptable deep snow
traction.
The Goodyear MTRs have not acceptable snow and ice traction.
They both rank in reviews in the lower half of the ratings.
Now, if you click on the individual tires it will give you a choice to read
the reviews. In the case of the BFGs there are 231 reviews, the Goodyears
have 505 reviews.
It also give you options to review other brands of tires in the same class
(off-road max traction)
If I were to purchase a set in this class I would certainly look at the
Kumhos. It is, perhaps, a brand unfamiliar to many but as I have a set of
their Venture ATs that I am very pleased with I would give then a look.
I would also reference other resources that offer information from tests and
usage such as www.offroad.com To save you the trouble I will cite the
specific web pages:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/kumho/
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/kumho/index2.html
Over a two year period these tires were subjected to use , as they state,
intended to make them fail and fail was something they never did.
But then..... why should I mention this? Well..... the OP asked for
opinions and I directly offered the opinions of 736 people who own these
tires (231 + 505) and at in this message I added mine and the thoughts of
the reviewers at offroad.com about a brand I would consider.
mG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:JAScf.12689$cg.5436@news02.roc.ny...
> Good information.... if they would have tested in the mud (or deep snow).
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> Warn X8000i
>
> "Billy Ray" wrote in message ...
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
>>
>>
>> >> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
>> >>
>> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
#19
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Re: Tyres
They were reviewed in the snow and on ice.
The BFGs mentioned has 'fair ice traction and not acceptable deep snow
traction.
The Goodyear MTRs have not acceptable snow and ice traction.
They both rank in reviews in the lower half of the ratings.
Now, if you click on the individual tires it will give you a choice to read
the reviews. In the case of the BFGs there are 231 reviews, the Goodyears
have 505 reviews.
It also give you options to review other brands of tires in the same class
(off-road max traction)
If I were to purchase a set in this class I would certainly look at the
Kumhos. It is, perhaps, a brand unfamiliar to many but as I have a set of
their Venture ATs that I am very pleased with I would give then a look.
I would also reference other resources that offer information from tests and
usage such as www.offroad.com To save you the trouble I will cite the
specific web pages:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/kumho/
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/kumho/index2.html
Over a two year period these tires were subjected to use , as they state,
intended to make them fail and fail was something they never did.
But then..... why should I mention this? Well..... the OP asked for
opinions and I directly offered the opinions of 736 people who own these
tires (231 + 505) and at in this message I added mine and the thoughts of
the reviewers at offroad.com about a brand I would consider.
mG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:JAScf.12689$cg.5436@news02.roc.ny...
> Good information.... if they would have tested in the mud (or deep snow).
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> Warn X8000i
>
> "Billy Ray" wrote in message ...
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
>>
>>
>> >> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
>> >>
>> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
The BFGs mentioned has 'fair ice traction and not acceptable deep snow
traction.
The Goodyear MTRs have not acceptable snow and ice traction.
They both rank in reviews in the lower half of the ratings.
Now, if you click on the individual tires it will give you a choice to read
the reviews. In the case of the BFGs there are 231 reviews, the Goodyears
have 505 reviews.
It also give you options to review other brands of tires in the same class
(off-road max traction)
If I were to purchase a set in this class I would certainly look at the
Kumhos. It is, perhaps, a brand unfamiliar to many but as I have a set of
their Venture ATs that I am very pleased with I would give then a look.
I would also reference other resources that offer information from tests and
usage such as www.offroad.com To save you the trouble I will cite the
specific web pages:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/kumho/
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/kumho/index2.html
Over a two year period these tires were subjected to use , as they state,
intended to make them fail and fail was something they never did.
But then..... why should I mention this? Well..... the OP asked for
opinions and I directly offered the opinions of 736 people who own these
tires (231 + 505) and at in this message I added mine and the thoughts of
the reviewers at offroad.com about a brand I would consider.
mG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:JAScf.12689$cg.5436@news02.roc.ny...
> Good information.... if they would have tested in the mud (or deep snow).
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> Warn X8000i
>
> "Billy Ray" wrote in message ...
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
>>
>>
>> >> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
>> >>
>> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
#20
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Re: Tyres
Dave,
I swore you asked about BFG vs. Goodyear. Hmmm..
My two cents says, BFG for better wear, Goodyear for slightly better
performance in mud. However the other guys did make good points. I just
moved to the northeast US and allot of the hard core off-roaders I've met
here are using swampers. they all swear by them in the mud.
Rich
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
I swore you asked about BFG vs. Goodyear. Hmmm..
My two cents says, BFG for better wear, Goodyear for slightly better
performance in mud. However the other guys did make good points. I just
moved to the northeast US and allot of the hard core off-roaders I've met
here are using swampers. they all swear by them in the mud.
Rich
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:iTQcf.5358$Lw5.3841@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> BFG KM or Goodyear MT/R for mud use ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>