Re: Ttick, tick, tick from the engine
 

Approximately 11/16/03 04:47, Robert Goldpalm uttered for posterity:

> Today, I had the car for a 400-Miles drive. The engine
> works well. Power, oil pressure, gas consumption
> are all fine.
>
> So far, the noise is only a cosmetic problem, but an
> annoying one. Checked on the distributor, but it
> seems ok.
>
> Any way to fix a leaking lifter without replacing parts?
> Any snake oil or mystery additive out there, that kind of
> permanent cures this noise?

The permanent cure is to replace that lifter. Adding
one of the really really thick oil additives [per
instructions] like STP Oil Treatment or Motor Honey
may help a bit.

Not sure whether or not the 4.0 can scrub the cam lobe
with a collapsing lifter, I wouldn't take the chance in
my own engine.
>
> There are quit a few messages here saying, that all 4 L 6 make
> this noise, sooner or later, and that it is inherent to the design
> of this engine. Is that really so? Would it go away by itself?

? Seen that same engine with well over 200K miles on it and
no lifter click. It may be a common problem, but it isn't
a guaranteed one. And it is more likely to slowly get
worse than go away.


--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: Ttick, tick, tick from the engine
 

Approximately 11/16/03 04:47, Robert Goldpalm uttered for posterity:

> Today, I had the car for a 400-Miles drive. The engine
> works well. Power, oil pressure, gas consumption
> are all fine.
>
> So far, the noise is only a cosmetic problem, but an
> annoying one. Checked on the distributor, but it
> seems ok.
>
> Any way to fix a leaking lifter without replacing parts?
> Any snake oil or mystery additive out there, that kind of
> permanent cures this noise?

The permanent cure is to replace that lifter. Adding
one of the really really thick oil additives [per
instructions] like STP Oil Treatment or Motor Honey
may help a bit.

Not sure whether or not the 4.0 can scrub the cam lobe
with a collapsing lifter, I wouldn't take the chance in
my own engine.
>
> There are quit a few messages here saying, that all 4 L 6 make
> this noise, sooner or later, and that it is inherent to the design
> of this engine. Is that really so? Would it go away by itself?

? Seen that same engine with well over 200K miles on it and
no lifter click. It may be a common problem, but it isn't
a guaranteed one. And it is more likely to slowly get
worse than go away.


--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: Ttick, tick, tick from the engine
 

Approximately 11/16/03 04:47, Robert Goldpalm uttered for posterity:

> Today, I had the car for a 400-Miles drive. The engine
> works well. Power, oil pressure, gas consumption
> are all fine.
>
> So far, the noise is only a cosmetic problem, but an
> annoying one. Checked on the distributor, but it
> seems ok.
>
> Any way to fix a leaking lifter without replacing parts?
> Any snake oil or mystery additive out there, that kind of
> permanent cures this noise?

The permanent cure is to replace that lifter. Adding
one of the really really thick oil additives [per
instructions] like STP Oil Treatment or Motor Honey
may help a bit.

Not sure whether or not the 4.0 can scrub the cam lobe
with a collapsing lifter, I wouldn't take the chance in
my own engine.
>
> There are quit a few messages here saying, that all 4 L 6 make
> this noise, sooner or later, and that it is inherent to the design
> of this engine. Is that really so? Would it go away by itself?

? Seen that same engine with well over 200K miles on it and
no lifter click. It may be a common problem, but it isn't
a guaranteed one. And it is more likely to slowly get
worse than go away.


--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: Ttick, tick, tick from the engine
 

> ? Seen that same engine with well over 200K miles on it and
> no lifter click. It may be a common problem, but it isn't
> a guaranteed one. And it is more likely to slowly get
> worse than go away.

This engine has only about 60 K. I had oil and filter
(original Mopar) changed every 3000 miles. It was driven
with care. I am living in the tropics, so the coldest cold start
is from about 80F. Why this lifter tick, one could ask?

Re: Ttick, tick, tick from the engine
 

> ? Seen that same engine with well over 200K miles on it and
> no lifter click. It may be a common problem, but it isn't
> a guaranteed one. And it is more likely to slowly get
> worse than go away.

This engine has only about 60 K. I had oil and filter
(original Mopar) changed every 3000 miles. It was driven
with care. I am living in the tropics, so the coldest cold start
is from about 80F. Why this lifter tick, one could ask?

Re: Ttick, tick, tick from the engine
 

> ? Seen that same engine with well over 200K miles on it and
> no lifter click. It may be a common problem, but it isn't
> a guaranteed one. And it is more likely to slowly get
> worse than go away.

This engine has only about 60 K. I had oil and filter
(original Mopar) changed every 3000 miles. It was driven
with care. I am living in the tropics, so the coldest cold start
is from about 80F. Why this lifter tick, one could ask?

Re: Ttick, tick, tick from the engine
 

Approximately 11/16/03 17:40, Robert Goldpalm uttered for posterity:


>
> This engine has only about 60 K. I had oil and filter
> (original Mopar) changed every 3000 miles. It was driven
> with care. I am living in the tropics, so the coldest cold start
> is from about 80F. Why this lifter tick, one could ask?

Best answer would be "sh*t happens". Presuming it *is* a
lifter, with several diagnostic methods already posted.


--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: Ttick, tick, tick from the engine
 

Approximately 11/16/03 17:40, Robert Goldpalm uttered for posterity:


>
> This engine has only about 60 K. I had oil and filter
> (original Mopar) changed every 3000 miles. It was driven
> with care. I am living in the tropics, so the coldest cold start
> is from about 80F. Why this lifter tick, one could ask?

Best answer would be "sh*t happens". Presuming it *is* a
lifter, with several diagnostic methods already posted.


--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: Ttick, tick, tick from the engine
 

Approximately 11/16/03 17:40, Robert Goldpalm uttered for posterity:


>
> This engine has only about 60 K. I had oil and filter
> (original Mopar) changed every 3000 miles. It was driven
> with care. I am living in the tropics, so the coldest cold start
> is from about 80F. Why this lifter tick, one could ask?

Best answer would be "sh*t happens". Presuming it *is* a
lifter, with several diagnostic methods already posted.


--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: Ttick, tick, tick from the engine
 

"Nathan Otis" <na@spam.smeat.net> wrote in message
news:Omrtb.155183$mZ5.1049753@attbi_s54...
>
> "Rob K." <doh@cfl.doh.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:S_ptb.179324$RP2.64434@twister.tampabay.rr.co m...
> > > Robert
> >
> > I don't mean to insult your intelligence, but, do you have air
> conditioning?
> >
> > =)
> >
> > Rob
>
> I don't mean to insult yours, but he did say:
>
> > For the last hour, I have spent listening to the engine at idle,
> > air-con and auxiliary fan off..
>
> :-)
> n.

oops =/

Rob