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Rhubarb 11-11-2003 12:36 AM

True Trac LSD Questions
 
Hey all,

About to upgrade to a new Wrangler Sport here in Australia (from an old
Wrangler Sport!).

This time round I am planning on getting LSD fitted (I believe Jeep call it
True Trac?).

I am unable to find bugger all about this option on there web site.

Just wondering if the factory fitted Jeep LSD is good (tight)? Or is it to
loose to be effective offroad?

Also was wondering if True Trac option was available for both rear and front
diff's?

Anything else I should know?

Cheers,
Rhu



Rhubarb 11-11-2003 12:45 AM

Re: True Trac LSD Questions
 

"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ez_rb.6242$aT.3661@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> This time round I am planning on getting LSD fitted (I believe Jeep call

it
> True Trac?).


From looking about a bit more Jeep may call the LSD True-Lok?



Rhubarb 11-11-2003 12:45 AM

Re: True Trac LSD Questions
 

"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ez_rb.6242$aT.3661@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> This time round I am planning on getting LSD fitted (I believe Jeep call

it
> True Trac?).


From looking about a bit more Jeep may call the LSD True-Lok?



Rhubarb 11-11-2003 12:45 AM

Re: True Trac LSD Questions
 

"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ez_rb.6242$aT.3661@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> This time round I am planning on getting LSD fitted (I believe Jeep call

it
> True Trac?).


From looking about a bit more Jeep may call the LSD True-Lok?



Jerry Bransford 11-11-2003 12:57 AM

Re: True Trac LSD Questions
 
Yes, the limited slip option available for the rear axle only is the
clutch-based Tracloc made by Dana. The Truetrac you asked earlier about it
a much better/stronger gear-based aftermarket limited slip differential made
by Tractech, the same firm that makes the Detroit Locker and the new
Electrac.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:fI_rb.6254$aT.1511@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ez_rb.6242$aT.3661@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > This time round I am planning on getting LSD fitted (I believe Jeep call

> it
> > True Trac?).

>
> From looking about a bit more Jeep may call the LSD True-Lok?
>
>




Jerry Bransford 11-11-2003 12:57 AM

Re: True Trac LSD Questions
 
Yes, the limited slip option available for the rear axle only is the
clutch-based Tracloc made by Dana. The Truetrac you asked earlier about it
a much better/stronger gear-based aftermarket limited slip differential made
by Tractech, the same firm that makes the Detroit Locker and the new
Electrac.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:fI_rb.6254$aT.1511@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ez_rb.6242$aT.3661@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > This time round I am planning on getting LSD fitted (I believe Jeep call

> it
> > True Trac?).

>
> From looking about a bit more Jeep may call the LSD True-Lok?
>
>




Jerry Bransford 11-11-2003 12:57 AM

Re: True Trac LSD Questions
 
Yes, the limited slip option available for the rear axle only is the
clutch-based Tracloc made by Dana. The Truetrac you asked earlier about it
a much better/stronger gear-based aftermarket limited slip differential made
by Tractech, the same firm that makes the Detroit Locker and the new
Electrac.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:fI_rb.6254$aT.1511@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ez_rb.6242$aT.3661@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > This time round I am planning on getting LSD fitted (I believe Jeep call

> it
> > True Trac?).

>
> From looking about a bit more Jeep may call the LSD True-Lok?
>
>




Rhubarb 11-11-2003 01:19 AM

Re: True Trac LSD Questions
 

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:wT_rb.26116$PD2.16132@fed1read05...
> Yes, the limited slip option available for the rear axle only is the
> clutch-based Tracloc made by Dana. The Truetrac you asked earlier about

it
> a much better/stronger gear-based aftermarket limited slip differential

made
> by Tractech, the same firm that makes the Detroit Locker and the new
> Electrac.
>


Thanks Jerry.

Is the True-Lok any good? Or is it to 'road' friendly?

What is a True Trac approximately worth $US? Are these able to be fitted to
the front diff as well? If so would you recommend it?

Cheers,
Rhu



Rhubarb 11-11-2003 01:19 AM

Re: True Trac LSD Questions
 

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:wT_rb.26116$PD2.16132@fed1read05...
> Yes, the limited slip option available for the rear axle only is the
> clutch-based Tracloc made by Dana. The Truetrac you asked earlier about

it
> a much better/stronger gear-based aftermarket limited slip differential

made
> by Tractech, the same firm that makes the Detroit Locker and the new
> Electrac.
>


Thanks Jerry.

Is the True-Lok any good? Or is it to 'road' friendly?

What is a True Trac approximately worth $US? Are these able to be fitted to
the front diff as well? If so would you recommend it?

Cheers,
Rhu



Rhubarb 11-11-2003 01:19 AM

Re: True Trac LSD Questions
 

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:wT_rb.26116$PD2.16132@fed1read05...
> Yes, the limited slip option available for the rear axle only is the
> clutch-based Tracloc made by Dana. The Truetrac you asked earlier about

it
> a much better/stronger gear-based aftermarket limited slip differential

made
> by Tractech, the same firm that makes the Detroit Locker and the new
> Electrac.
>


Thanks Jerry.

Is the True-Lok any good? Or is it to 'road' friendly?

What is a True Trac approximately worth $US? Are these able to be fitted to
the front diff as well? If so would you recommend it?

Cheers,
Rhu



Jerry Bransford 11-11-2003 01:29 AM

Re: True Trac LSD Questions
 
A Truetrac works well in either the front or rear and is totally street
friendly, you can't even tell it's there. They're better and more
aggressive than the Tracloc is offroad but neither help that much in most
offroad situations when the terrain is uneven enough that a tire is up in
the air. They sell for $330 to $350 U.S. Here's a page that describes how
the Truetrac and a few others work..
http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4x4...shtml#TrueTrac

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:wb%rb.6277$aT.4380@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:wT_rb.26116$PD2.16132@fed1read05...
> > Yes, the limited slip option available for the rear axle only is the
> > clutch-based Tracloc made by Dana. The Truetrac you asked earlier about

> it
> > a much better/stronger gear-based aftermarket limited slip differential

> made
> > by Tractech, the same firm that makes the Detroit Locker and the new
> > Electrac.
> >

>
> Thanks Jerry.
>
> Is the True-Lok any good? Or is it to 'road' friendly?
>
> What is a True Trac approximately worth $US? Are these able to be fitted

to
> the front diff as well? If so would you recommend it?
>
> Cheers,
> Rhu
>
>




Jerry Bransford 11-11-2003 01:29 AM

Re: True Trac LSD Questions
 
A Truetrac works well in either the front or rear and is totally street
friendly, you can't even tell it's there. They're better and more
aggressive than the Tracloc is offroad but neither help that much in most
offroad situations when the terrain is uneven enough that a tire is up in
the air. They sell for $330 to $350 U.S. Here's a page that describes how
the Truetrac and a few others work..
http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4x4...shtml#TrueTrac

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:wb%rb.6277$aT.4380@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:wT_rb.26116$PD2.16132@fed1read05...
> > Yes, the limited slip option available for the rear axle only is the
> > clutch-based Tracloc made by Dana. The Truetrac you asked earlier about

> it
> > a much better/stronger gear-based aftermarket limited slip differential

> made
> > by Tractech, the same firm that makes the Detroit Locker and the new
> > Electrac.
> >

>
> Thanks Jerry.
>
> Is the True-Lok any good? Or is it to 'road' friendly?
>
> What is a True Trac approximately worth $US? Are these able to be fitted

to
> the front diff as well? If so would you recommend it?
>
> Cheers,
> Rhu
>
>




Jerry Bransford 11-11-2003 01:29 AM

Re: True Trac LSD Questions
 
A Truetrac works well in either the front or rear and is totally street
friendly, you can't even tell it's there. They're better and more
aggressive than the Tracloc is offroad but neither help that much in most
offroad situations when the terrain is uneven enough that a tire is up in
the air. They sell for $330 to $350 U.S. Here's a page that describes how
the Truetrac and a few others work..
http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4x4...shtml#TrueTrac

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:wb%rb.6277$aT.4380@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:wT_rb.26116$PD2.16132@fed1read05...
> > Yes, the limited slip option available for the rear axle only is the
> > clutch-based Tracloc made by Dana. The Truetrac you asked earlier about

> it
> > a much better/stronger gear-based aftermarket limited slip differential

> made
> > by Tractech, the same firm that makes the Detroit Locker and the new
> > Electrac.
> >

>
> Thanks Jerry.
>
> Is the True-Lok any good? Or is it to 'road' friendly?
>
> What is a True Trac approximately worth $US? Are these able to be fitted

to
> the front diff as well? If so would you recommend it?
>
> Cheers,
> Rhu
>
>




Earle Horton 11-11-2003 10:43 AM

Re: True Trac LSD Questions
 
The Trac-Loc (Trak-Loc?) is a friction disk design that works moderately
well when new. It will increase the tendency to "fish tail" on wet and icy
roads, but one quickly gets used to it and compensates. The disks wear out
over time and require a special friction modifier additive to be added to
the differential fluid, so that they will work properly. Since the disks do
wear out, this also means that one has to add a periodic differential fluid
change to the maintenance schedule to clean out shed friction material. I
believe that the required interval is about 30,000 miles. The Trac-Lok is
not considered heavy duty off road equipment, but it is useful on marginal
surfaces like a wet and muddy gravel road for example. It's chief
advantages are price and the fact that it is an option that can be ordered
with a new Jeep.

There are Trac-Loc units available for Jeep front axles, but from the
limited shopping around that I have done they are considerably more
expensive than the rear units, and I do not know if they can be ordered with
new vehicles. A disadvantage to having one on the front of a vehicle like
the Wrangler is that the design does not permit the clutches to release
completely, and it will affect steering. I believe that the Truetrac design
does release completely and does not affect steering when placed on the
front. Perhaps Jerry can clarify this.

In the "advanced user" department the Trac-Loc clutches are adjustable and
an extra disk can be added to the clutch pack for those not satisfied with
stock performance. This makes the clutch pack much tighter and will
certainly affect on road performance.

Earle

"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:wb%rb.6277$aT.4380@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:wT_rb.26116$PD2.16132@fed1read05...
> > Yes, the limited slip option available for the rear axle only is the
> > clutch-based Tracloc made by Dana. The Truetrac you asked earlier about

> it
> > a much better/stronger gear-based aftermarket limited slip differential

> made
> > by Tractech, the same firm that makes the Detroit Locker and the new
> > Electrac.
> >

>
> Thanks Jerry.
>
> Is the True-Lok any good? Or is it to 'road' friendly?
>
> What is a True Trac approximately worth $US? Are these able to be fitted

to
> the front diff as well? If so would you recommend it?
>
> Cheers,
> Rhu
>
>




Earle Horton 11-11-2003 10:43 AM

Re: True Trac LSD Questions
 
The Trac-Loc (Trak-Loc?) is a friction disk design that works moderately
well when new. It will increase the tendency to "fish tail" on wet and icy
roads, but one quickly gets used to it and compensates. The disks wear out
over time and require a special friction modifier additive to be added to
the differential fluid, so that they will work properly. Since the disks do
wear out, this also means that one has to add a periodic differential fluid
change to the maintenance schedule to clean out shed friction material. I
believe that the required interval is about 30,000 miles. The Trac-Lok is
not considered heavy duty off road equipment, but it is useful on marginal
surfaces like a wet and muddy gravel road for example. It's chief
advantages are price and the fact that it is an option that can be ordered
with a new Jeep.

There are Trac-Loc units available for Jeep front axles, but from the
limited shopping around that I have done they are considerably more
expensive than the rear units, and I do not know if they can be ordered with
new vehicles. A disadvantage to having one on the front of a vehicle like
the Wrangler is that the design does not permit the clutches to release
completely, and it will affect steering. I believe that the Truetrac design
does release completely and does not affect steering when placed on the
front. Perhaps Jerry can clarify this.

In the "advanced user" department the Trac-Loc clutches are adjustable and
an extra disk can be added to the clutch pack for those not satisfied with
stock performance. This makes the clutch pack much tighter and will
certainly affect on road performance.

Earle

"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:wb%rb.6277$aT.4380@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:wT_rb.26116$PD2.16132@fed1read05...
> > Yes, the limited slip option available for the rear axle only is the
> > clutch-based Tracloc made by Dana. The Truetrac you asked earlier about

> it
> > a much better/stronger gear-based aftermarket limited slip differential

> made
> > by Tractech, the same firm that makes the Detroit Locker and the new
> > Electrac.
> >

>
> Thanks Jerry.
>
> Is the True-Lok any good? Or is it to 'road' friendly?
>
> What is a True Trac approximately worth $US? Are these able to be fitted

to
> the front diff as well? If so would you recommend it?
>
> Cheers,
> Rhu
>
>




Earle Horton 11-11-2003 10:43 AM

Re: True Trac LSD Questions
 
The Trac-Loc (Trak-Loc?) is a friction disk design that works moderately
well when new. It will increase the tendency to "fish tail" on wet and icy
roads, but one quickly gets used to it and compensates. The disks wear out
over time and require a special friction modifier additive to be added to
the differential fluid, so that they will work properly. Since the disks do
wear out, this also means that one has to add a periodic differential fluid
change to the maintenance schedule to clean out shed friction material. I
believe that the required interval is about 30,000 miles. The Trac-Lok is
not considered heavy duty off road equipment, but it is useful on marginal
surfaces like a wet and muddy gravel road for example. It's chief
advantages are price and the fact that it is an option that can be ordered
with a new Jeep.

There are Trac-Loc units available for Jeep front axles, but from the
limited shopping around that I have done they are considerably more
expensive than the rear units, and I do not know if they can be ordered with
new vehicles. A disadvantage to having one on the front of a vehicle like
the Wrangler is that the design does not permit the clutches to release
completely, and it will affect steering. I believe that the Truetrac design
does release completely and does not affect steering when placed on the
front. Perhaps Jerry can clarify this.

In the "advanced user" department the Trac-Loc clutches are adjustable and
an extra disk can be added to the clutch pack for those not satisfied with
stock performance. This makes the clutch pack much tighter and will
certainly affect on road performance.

Earle

"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:wb%rb.6277$aT.4380@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:wT_rb.26116$PD2.16132@fed1read05...
> > Yes, the limited slip option available for the rear axle only is the
> > clutch-based Tracloc made by Dana. The Truetrac you asked earlier about

> it
> > a much better/stronger gear-based aftermarket limited slip differential

> made
> > by Tractech, the same firm that makes the Detroit Locker and the new
> > Electrac.
> >

>
> Thanks Jerry.
>
> Is the True-Lok any good? Or is it to 'road' friendly?
>
> What is a True Trac approximately worth $US? Are these able to be fitted

to
> the front diff as well? If so would you recommend it?
>
> Cheers,
> Rhu
>
>





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