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Jeff Strickland 06-27-2005 09:24 PM

Re: Troubles with OBD II - HURRY
 
The trouble is, the dealership is closed and it's my friend's car stuck in
my garage. I bought some silicon wires that are pretty nearly the same
diameter as the factory wires, and they solved the trouble and they have a
life time warranty.

I have to agree that this is one of the few places where it pays to buy
parts at the dealership though.




"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42C09BD5.1DAAA6@sympatico.ca...
> Over all the years I have been buying wires, the OEM ones from the
> dealer are the best in my opinion.
>
> I am running them on both of my Jeeps.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> Plugs are OK, I think. My brother in law replaced them two weeks ago
>> because
>> the engine was miss firing. The boneheads at AutoZone told him that if
>> the
>> Check light was off, there were no codes to gather, so we couldn't see if
>> we
>> were even working on the right stuff.
>>
>> I'm off to the store to get a new set of wires. This is one of those
>> projects where the expensive ones are the right ones, isn't it?
>>
>> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:gYidnQauqrjdD13fRVn-ug@comcast.com...
>> > If you are reading a straight open that is all you need regardless of
>> > what
>> > a particular resistance reading is on other wires. Could it be just a
>> > plug, change the plugs.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Coasty
>> > SEMPAR PARATUS
>> > (ALWAYS READY)
>> >
>> > Remove The SPOOGE To Reply
>> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:g_-dneOfd5_UDF3fRVn-gA@ez2.net...
>> >>I am having a code P0302 from the OBD II system, this means that there
>> >>is
>> >>trouble with the #2 plug. The car runs like it is miss firing, it kind
>> >>of
>> >>pops and sputters like a valve.
>> >>
>> >> Trusting OBD II as I do, I tested the plug wires, and the #2 wire
>> >> seems
>> >> to be open. The #1, 3, and 4 have resistance readings as follows,
>> >> 10.0,
>> >> 7.6, and 5.5 k ohms respectively. If the resistance is a function of
>> >> the
>> >> length and the #1 is double the length of #4, then the resistance
>> >> readings are in line. I would expect #2 to fall in between 1 & 3, or
>> >> about 9.
>> >>
>> >> Before I go out and buy new wires, is my test valid?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >



Jeff Strickland 06-27-2005 09:24 PM

Re: Troubles with OBD II - HURRY
 
The trouble is, the dealership is closed and it's my friend's car stuck in
my garage. I bought some silicon wires that are pretty nearly the same
diameter as the factory wires, and they solved the trouble and they have a
life time warranty.

I have to agree that this is one of the few places where it pays to buy
parts at the dealership though.




"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42C09BD5.1DAAA6@sympatico.ca...
> Over all the years I have been buying wires, the OEM ones from the
> dealer are the best in my opinion.
>
> I am running them on both of my Jeeps.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> Plugs are OK, I think. My brother in law replaced them two weeks ago
>> because
>> the engine was miss firing. The boneheads at AutoZone told him that if
>> the
>> Check light was off, there were no codes to gather, so we couldn't see if
>> we
>> were even working on the right stuff.
>>
>> I'm off to the store to get a new set of wires. This is one of those
>> projects where the expensive ones are the right ones, isn't it?
>>
>> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:gYidnQauqrjdD13fRVn-ug@comcast.com...
>> > If you are reading a straight open that is all you need regardless of
>> > what
>> > a particular resistance reading is on other wires. Could it be just a
>> > plug, change the plugs.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Coasty
>> > SEMPAR PARATUS
>> > (ALWAYS READY)
>> >
>> > Remove The SPOOGE To Reply
>> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:g_-dneOfd5_UDF3fRVn-gA@ez2.net...
>> >>I am having a code P0302 from the OBD II system, this means that there
>> >>is
>> >>trouble with the #2 plug. The car runs like it is miss firing, it kind
>> >>of
>> >>pops and sputters like a valve.
>> >>
>> >> Trusting OBD II as I do, I tested the plug wires, and the #2 wire
>> >> seems
>> >> to be open. The #1, 3, and 4 have resistance readings as follows,
>> >> 10.0,
>> >> 7.6, and 5.5 k ohms respectively. If the resistance is a function of
>> >> the
>> >> length and the #1 is double the length of #4, then the resistance
>> >> readings are in line. I would expect #2 to fall in between 1 & 3, or
>> >> about 9.
>> >>
>> >> Before I go out and buy new wires, is my test valid?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >



Jeff Strickland 06-27-2005 09:24 PM

Re: Troubles with OBD II - HURRY
 
The trouble is, the dealership is closed and it's my friend's car stuck in
my garage. I bought some silicon wires that are pretty nearly the same
diameter as the factory wires, and they solved the trouble and they have a
life time warranty.

I have to agree that this is one of the few places where it pays to buy
parts at the dealership though.




"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42C09BD5.1DAAA6@sympatico.ca...
> Over all the years I have been buying wires, the OEM ones from the
> dealer are the best in my opinion.
>
> I am running them on both of my Jeeps.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> Plugs are OK, I think. My brother in law replaced them two weeks ago
>> because
>> the engine was miss firing. The boneheads at AutoZone told him that if
>> the
>> Check light was off, there were no codes to gather, so we couldn't see if
>> we
>> were even working on the right stuff.
>>
>> I'm off to the store to get a new set of wires. This is one of those
>> projects where the expensive ones are the right ones, isn't it?
>>
>> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:gYidnQauqrjdD13fRVn-ug@comcast.com...
>> > If you are reading a straight open that is all you need regardless of
>> > what
>> > a particular resistance reading is on other wires. Could it be just a
>> > plug, change the plugs.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Coasty
>> > SEMPAR PARATUS
>> > (ALWAYS READY)
>> >
>> > Remove The SPOOGE To Reply
>> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:g_-dneOfd5_UDF3fRVn-gA@ez2.net...
>> >>I am having a code P0302 from the OBD II system, this means that there
>> >>is
>> >>trouble with the #2 plug. The car runs like it is miss firing, it kind
>> >>of
>> >>pops and sputters like a valve.
>> >>
>> >> Trusting OBD II as I do, I tested the plug wires, and the #2 wire
>> >> seems
>> >> to be open. The #1, 3, and 4 have resistance readings as follows,
>> >> 10.0,
>> >> 7.6, and 5.5 k ohms respectively. If the resistance is a function of
>> >> the
>> >> length and the #1 is double the length of #4, then the resistance
>> >> readings are in line. I would expect #2 to fall in between 1 & 3, or
>> >> about 9.
>> >>
>> >> Before I go out and buy new wires, is my test valid?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >



Mike Romain 06-27-2005 09:43 PM

Re: Troubles with OBD II - HURRY
 
My wife and I have had a few 'adventures' lately, that's for sure....
:-)

Mike

Steve wrote:
>
> Hey Mikes back....
>
> Tell us of your adventures Mike!!! lol
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42C09BD5.1DAAA6@sympatico.ca...
> > Over all the years I have been buying wires, the OEM ones from the
> > dealer are the best in my opinion.
> >
> > I am running them on both of my Jeeps.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >>
> >> Plugs are OK, I think. My brother in law replaced them two weeks ago
> >> because
> >> the engine was miss firing. The boneheads at AutoZone told him that if
> >> the
> >> Check light was off, there were no codes to gather, so we couldn't see if
> >> we
> >> were even working on the right stuff.
> >>
> >> I'm off to the store to get a new set of wires. This is one of those
> >> projects where the expensive ones are the right ones, isn't it?
> >>
> >> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:gYidnQauqrjdD13fRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> >> > If you are reading a straight open that is all you need regardless of
> >> > what
> >> > a particular resistance reading is on other wires. Could it be just a
> >> > plug, change the plugs.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Coasty
> >> > SEMPAR PARATUS
> >> > (ALWAYS READY)
> >> >
> >> > Remove The SPOOGE To Reply
> >> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:g_-dneOfd5_UDF3fRVn-gA@ez2.net...
> >> >>I am having a code P0302 from the OBD II system, this means that there
> >> >>is
> >> >>trouble with the #2 plug. The car runs like it is miss firing, it kind
> >> >>of
> >> >>pops and sputters like a valve.
> >> >>
> >> >> Trusting OBD II as I do, I tested the plug wires, and the #2 wire
> >> >> seems
> >> >> to be open. The #1, 3, and 4 have resistance readings as follows,
> >> >> 10.0,
> >> >> 7.6, and 5.5 k ohms respectively. If the resistance is a function of
> >> >> the
> >> >> length and the #1 is double the length of #4, then the resistance
> >> >> readings are in line. I would expect #2 to fall in between 1 & 3, or
> >> >> about 9.
> >> >>
> >> >> Before I go out and buy new wires, is my test valid?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >


Mike Romain 06-27-2005 09:43 PM

Re: Troubles with OBD II - HURRY
 
My wife and I have had a few 'adventures' lately, that's for sure....
:-)

Mike

Steve wrote:
>
> Hey Mikes back....
>
> Tell us of your adventures Mike!!! lol
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42C09BD5.1DAAA6@sympatico.ca...
> > Over all the years I have been buying wires, the OEM ones from the
> > dealer are the best in my opinion.
> >
> > I am running them on both of my Jeeps.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >>
> >> Plugs are OK, I think. My brother in law replaced them two weeks ago
> >> because
> >> the engine was miss firing. The boneheads at AutoZone told him that if
> >> the
> >> Check light was off, there were no codes to gather, so we couldn't see if
> >> we
> >> were even working on the right stuff.
> >>
> >> I'm off to the store to get a new set of wires. This is one of those
> >> projects where the expensive ones are the right ones, isn't it?
> >>
> >> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:gYidnQauqrjdD13fRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> >> > If you are reading a straight open that is all you need regardless of
> >> > what
> >> > a particular resistance reading is on other wires. Could it be just a
> >> > plug, change the plugs.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Coasty
> >> > SEMPAR PARATUS
> >> > (ALWAYS READY)
> >> >
> >> > Remove The SPOOGE To Reply
> >> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:g_-dneOfd5_UDF3fRVn-gA@ez2.net...
> >> >>I am having a code P0302 from the OBD II system, this means that there
> >> >>is
> >> >>trouble with the #2 plug. The car runs like it is miss firing, it kind
> >> >>of
> >> >>pops and sputters like a valve.
> >> >>
> >> >> Trusting OBD II as I do, I tested the plug wires, and the #2 wire
> >> >> seems
> >> >> to be open. The #1, 3, and 4 have resistance readings as follows,
> >> >> 10.0,
> >> >> 7.6, and 5.5 k ohms respectively. If the resistance is a function of
> >> >> the
> >> >> length and the #1 is double the length of #4, then the resistance
> >> >> readings are in line. I would expect #2 to fall in between 1 & 3, or
> >> >> about 9.
> >> >>
> >> >> Before I go out and buy new wires, is my test valid?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >


Mike Romain 06-27-2005 09:43 PM

Re: Troubles with OBD II - HURRY
 
My wife and I have had a few 'adventures' lately, that's for sure....
:-)

Mike

Steve wrote:
>
> Hey Mikes back....
>
> Tell us of your adventures Mike!!! lol
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42C09BD5.1DAAA6@sympatico.ca...
> > Over all the years I have been buying wires, the OEM ones from the
> > dealer are the best in my opinion.
> >
> > I am running them on both of my Jeeps.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >>
> >> Plugs are OK, I think. My brother in law replaced them two weeks ago
> >> because
> >> the engine was miss firing. The boneheads at AutoZone told him that if
> >> the
> >> Check light was off, there were no codes to gather, so we couldn't see if
> >> we
> >> were even working on the right stuff.
> >>
> >> I'm off to the store to get a new set of wires. This is one of those
> >> projects where the expensive ones are the right ones, isn't it?
> >>
> >> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:gYidnQauqrjdD13fRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> >> > If you are reading a straight open that is all you need regardless of
> >> > what
> >> > a particular resistance reading is on other wires. Could it be just a
> >> > plug, change the plugs.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Coasty
> >> > SEMPAR PARATUS
> >> > (ALWAYS READY)
> >> >
> >> > Remove The SPOOGE To Reply
> >> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:g_-dneOfd5_UDF3fRVn-gA@ez2.net...
> >> >>I am having a code P0302 from the OBD II system, this means that there
> >> >>is
> >> >>trouble with the #2 plug. The car runs like it is miss firing, it kind
> >> >>of
> >> >>pops and sputters like a valve.
> >> >>
> >> >> Trusting OBD II as I do, I tested the plug wires, and the #2 wire
> >> >> seems
> >> >> to be open. The #1, 3, and 4 have resistance readings as follows,
> >> >> 10.0,
> >> >> 7.6, and 5.5 k ohms respectively. If the resistance is a function of
> >> >> the
> >> >> length and the #1 is double the length of #4, then the resistance
> >> >> readings are in line. I would expect #2 to fall in between 1 & 3, or
> >> >> about 9.
> >> >>
> >> >> Before I go out and buy new wires, is my test valid?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >


Mike Romain 06-27-2005 09:43 PM

Re: Troubles with OBD II - HURRY
 
My wife and I have had a few 'adventures' lately, that's for sure....
:-)

Mike

Steve wrote:
>
> Hey Mikes back....
>
> Tell us of your adventures Mike!!! lol
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42C09BD5.1DAAA6@sympatico.ca...
> > Over all the years I have been buying wires, the OEM ones from the
> > dealer are the best in my opinion.
> >
> > I am running them on both of my Jeeps.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >>
> >> Plugs are OK, I think. My brother in law replaced them two weeks ago
> >> because
> >> the engine was miss firing. The boneheads at AutoZone told him that if
> >> the
> >> Check light was off, there were no codes to gather, so we couldn't see if
> >> we
> >> were even working on the right stuff.
> >>
> >> I'm off to the store to get a new set of wires. This is one of those
> >> projects where the expensive ones are the right ones, isn't it?
> >>
> >> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:gYidnQauqrjdD13fRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> >> > If you are reading a straight open that is all you need regardless of
> >> > what
> >> > a particular resistance reading is on other wires. Could it be just a
> >> > plug, change the plugs.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Coasty
> >> > SEMPAR PARATUS
> >> > (ALWAYS READY)
> >> >
> >> > Remove The SPOOGE To Reply
> >> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:g_-dneOfd5_UDF3fRVn-gA@ez2.net...
> >> >>I am having a code P0302 from the OBD II system, this means that there
> >> >>is
> >> >>trouble with the #2 plug. The car runs like it is miss firing, it kind
> >> >>of
> >> >>pops and sputters like a valve.
> >> >>
> >> >> Trusting OBD II as I do, I tested the plug wires, and the #2 wire
> >> >> seems
> >> >> to be open. The #1, 3, and 4 have resistance readings as follows,
> >> >> 10.0,
> >> >> 7.6, and 5.5 k ohms respectively. If the resistance is a function of
> >> >> the
> >> >> length and the #1 is double the length of #4, then the resistance
> >> >> readings are in line. I would expect #2 to fall in between 1 & 3, or
> >> >> about 9.
> >> >>
> >> >> Before I go out and buy new wires, is my test valid?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >


Jeff Strickland 06-27-2005 10:30 PM

Re: Troubles with OBD II - HURRY
 
It's fixed. Sorta. I bought a set of wires from AutoZone because the
dealership is closed by now. The problem is solved and the code reader reset
the code and it didn't come back. The resistance of the new wires was
considerably more uniform than in the old wires. I don't know if this is
because the old wires are made to a different standard, or they were close
to failure among the entire set.



"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:g_-dneOfd5_UDF3fRVn-gA@ez2.net...
>I am having a code P0302 from the OBD II system, this means that there is
>trouble with the #2 plug. The car runs like it is miss firing, it kind of
>pops and sputters like a valve.
>
> Trusting OBD II as I do, I tested the plug wires, and the #2 wire seems to
> be open. The #1, 3, and 4 have resistance readings as follows, 10.0, 7.6,
> and 5.5 k ohms respectively. If the resistance is a function of the length
> and the #1 is double the length of #4, then the resistance readings are in
> line. I would expect #2 to fall in between 1 & 3, or about 9.
>
> Before I go out and buy new wires, is my test valid?
>
>



Jeff Strickland 06-27-2005 10:30 PM

Re: Troubles with OBD II - HURRY
 
It's fixed. Sorta. I bought a set of wires from AutoZone because the
dealership is closed by now. The problem is solved and the code reader reset
the code and it didn't come back. The resistance of the new wires was
considerably more uniform than in the old wires. I don't know if this is
because the old wires are made to a different standard, or they were close
to failure among the entire set.



"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:g_-dneOfd5_UDF3fRVn-gA@ez2.net...
>I am having a code P0302 from the OBD II system, this means that there is
>trouble with the #2 plug. The car runs like it is miss firing, it kind of
>pops and sputters like a valve.
>
> Trusting OBD II as I do, I tested the plug wires, and the #2 wire seems to
> be open. The #1, 3, and 4 have resistance readings as follows, 10.0, 7.6,
> and 5.5 k ohms respectively. If the resistance is a function of the length
> and the #1 is double the length of #4, then the resistance readings are in
> line. I would expect #2 to fall in between 1 & 3, or about 9.
>
> Before I go out and buy new wires, is my test valid?
>
>



Jeff Strickland 06-27-2005 10:30 PM

Re: Troubles with OBD II - HURRY
 
It's fixed. Sorta. I bought a set of wires from AutoZone because the
dealership is closed by now. The problem is solved and the code reader reset
the code and it didn't come back. The resistance of the new wires was
considerably more uniform than in the old wires. I don't know if this is
because the old wires are made to a different standard, or they were close
to failure among the entire set.



"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:g_-dneOfd5_UDF3fRVn-gA@ez2.net...
>I am having a code P0302 from the OBD II system, this means that there is
>trouble with the #2 plug. The car runs like it is miss firing, it kind of
>pops and sputters like a valve.
>
> Trusting OBD II as I do, I tested the plug wires, and the #2 wire seems to
> be open. The #1, 3, and 4 have resistance readings as follows, 10.0, 7.6,
> and 5.5 k ohms respectively. If the resistance is a function of the length
> and the #1 is double the length of #4, then the resistance readings are in
> line. I would expect #2 to fall in between 1 & 3, or about 9.
>
> Before I go out and buy new wires, is my test valid?
>
>




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