Re: Troubles with Double Cardan Joint
 

Don't TJs come with double-cardan standard on the front as well? Mine sure
did come like that from factory (and the one that was replaced under
warranty because the original had developed a bend).

TW

"Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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How high is your Jeep lifted? I had 7.5" on my 89 YJ and I did just fine
with the 2-joint system on the front. Only XJ's have the double-cardon
standard on the front (which is what lead me to belive you had an XJ). If
it's in the budget, You might try a new shaft from Tom Wood.

Carl


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> To be honest, I don't know what the angle is.
>
> I bought my Jeep as it sits, then broke a spring so I replaced them all
> with the same amount of lift. The driveshaft had worn splines, so I bought
> a new one. The new one is the one that keeps eating the center joint. The
> original shaft never gave me a moment of trouble, but it is unable to hold
> grease anymore, and I was worried that the splines would let go at a very
> unpleasant moment, or let go and turn a wonderfull moment into one of the
> most unpleasant imaginable.
>
> In any case, I think the body of the H-yoke and the various other yokes
> are somehow different shapes by an 1/8 inch or so, and this 1/8 inch is
> vital.
>
>
>
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:rdydncXlcobfLereRVn-sA@comcast.com...
>> Sorry, Jeff, I thought you had an XJ. Can you get an angle finder and
>> measure your pinion angle? I can see the double cardon flexing too far if
>> your angle was *really* bad but I think it would be easy to visually
>> confirm. Is the pinion pointed straight back or is it pointed at the
>> output yoke of the t-case? Can you get some pictures of the pinion, CV
>> joint, ect?
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:a5qdnfnKUaEA4erenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>
>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:beqdnWmbpIXP7-venZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> The part you are trying to name is a centering yoke. I replaced one on
>>>> my 89 XJ before. What a PITA. Be exeptionally careful with the little
>>>> red cap on the back of the new one. I'd probably just go pull a used
>>>> shaft from a junkyard XJ, slam 3 $10 U-joints and a $60 centering yoke
>>>> in it and be done with it. Keep the offending unit as a trail spare.
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>>
>>>
>>> I actually bought the new center yoke and two U-Joints (I need three
>>> joints, but one of them has the the yoke holes so mangled that I can't
>>> get that joint out.) When I reinstalled the shaft, I noticed that the
>>> various yokes very nearly strike one another at normal ride-height, and
>>> when the axle drops, then a strike is assured. I have to look at my
>>> current Trail Spare (and get it trail worthy) and see if there is an
>>> machining difference in the old parts and the new ones that causes the
>>> strike opportunities. My old drive shaft did not have the problems with
>>> strikes, but the splines have worn out so I bought a new drive shaft a
>>> few years ago, and now the worn splines are the Trail Spare.
>>>
>>> I could go pull a used shaft from an XJ, but I think it would be about a
>>> foot too long to fit my CJ5.
>>
>>
>

Re: Troubles with Double Cardan Joint
 

I have a CJ5, so the angle is pretty steep. I have 2.5" of lift.

Remember, my old drive shaft worked fine, the new one is the one that eats
center joints. The double cardan, in and of itself, isn't the trouble. There
is something unique that I have to figure out.






"Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:iY2dnaGiQ6-g3uTenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> How high is your Jeep lifted? I had 7.5" on my 89 YJ and I did just fine
> with the 2-joint system on the front. Only XJ's have the double-cardon
> standard on the front (which is what lead me to belive you had an XJ). If
> it's in the budget, You might try a new shaft from Tom Wood.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:NuadnQyvlejCpOTeRVn-qw@ez2.net...
>> To be honest, I don't know what the angle is.
>>
>> I bought my Jeep as it sits, then broke a spring so I replaced them all
>> with the same amount of lift. The driveshaft had worn splines, so I
>> bought a new one. The new one is the one that keeps eating the center
>> joint. The original shaft never gave me a moment of trouble, but it is
>> unable to hold grease anymore, and I was worried that the splines would
>> let go at a very unpleasant moment, or let go and turn a wonderfull
>> moment into one of the most unpleasant imaginable.
>>
>> In any case, I think the body of the H-yoke and the various other yokes
>> are somehow different shapes by an 1/8 inch or so, and this 1/8 inch is
>> vital.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:rdydncXlcobfLereRVn-sA@comcast.com...
>>> Sorry, Jeff, I thought you had an XJ. Can you get an angle finder and
>>> measure your pinion angle? I can see the double cardon flexing too far
>>> if your angle was *really* bad but I think it would be easy to visually
>>> confirm. Is the pinion pointed straight back or is it pointed at the
>>> output yoke of the t-case? Can you get some pictures of the pinion, CV
>>> joint, ect?
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:a5qdnfnKUaEA4erenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:beqdnWmbpIXP7-venZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> The part you are trying to name is a centering yoke. I replaced one on
>>>>> my 89 XJ before. What a PITA. Be exeptionally careful with the little
>>>>> red cap on the back of the new one. I'd probably just go pull a used
>>>>> shaft from a junkyard XJ, slam 3 $10 U-joints and a $60 centering yoke
>>>>> in it and be done with it. Keep the offending unit as a trail spare.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I actually bought the new center yoke and two U-Joints (I need three
>>>> joints, but one of them has the the yoke holes so mangled that I can't
>>>> get that joint out.) When I reinstalled the shaft, I noticed that the
>>>> various yokes very nearly strike one another at normal ride-height, and
>>>> when the axle drops, then a strike is assured. I have to look at my
>>>> current Trail Spare (and get it trail worthy) and see if there is an
>>>> machining difference in the old parts and the new ones that causes the
>>>> strike opportunities. My old drive shaft did not have the problems with
>>>> strikes, but the splines have worn out so I bought a new drive shaft a
>>>> few years ago, and now the worn splines are the Trail Spare.
>>>>
>>>> I could go pull a used shaft from an XJ, but I think it would be about
>>>> a foot too long to fit my CJ5.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: Troubles with Double Cardan Joint
 

I have a CJ5, so the angle is pretty steep. I have 2.5" of lift.

Remember, my old drive shaft worked fine, the new one is the one that eats
center joints. The double cardan, in and of itself, isn't the trouble. There
is something unique that I have to figure out.






"Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:iY2dnaGiQ6-g3uTenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> How high is your Jeep lifted? I had 7.5" on my 89 YJ and I did just fine
> with the 2-joint system on the front. Only XJ's have the double-cardon
> standard on the front (which is what lead me to belive you had an XJ). If
> it's in the budget, You might try a new shaft from Tom Wood.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:NuadnQyvlejCpOTeRVn-qw@ez2.net...
>> To be honest, I don't know what the angle is.
>>
>> I bought my Jeep as it sits, then broke a spring so I replaced them all
>> with the same amount of lift. The driveshaft had worn splines, so I
>> bought a new one. The new one is the one that keeps eating the center
>> joint. The original shaft never gave me a moment of trouble, but it is
>> unable to hold grease anymore, and I was worried that the splines would
>> let go at a very unpleasant moment, or let go and turn a wonderfull
>> moment into one of the most unpleasant imaginable.
>>
>> In any case, I think the body of the H-yoke and the various other yokes
>> are somehow different shapes by an 1/8 inch or so, and this 1/8 inch is
>> vital.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:rdydncXlcobfLereRVn-sA@comcast.com...
>>> Sorry, Jeff, I thought you had an XJ. Can you get an angle finder and
>>> measure your pinion angle? I can see the double cardon flexing too far
>>> if your angle was *really* bad but I think it would be easy to visually
>>> confirm. Is the pinion pointed straight back or is it pointed at the
>>> output yoke of the t-case? Can you get some pictures of the pinion, CV
>>> joint, ect?
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:a5qdnfnKUaEA4erenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:beqdnWmbpIXP7-venZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> The part you are trying to name is a centering yoke. I replaced one on
>>>>> my 89 XJ before. What a PITA. Be exeptionally careful with the little
>>>>> red cap on the back of the new one. I'd probably just go pull a used
>>>>> shaft from a junkyard XJ, slam 3 $10 U-joints and a $60 centering yoke
>>>>> in it and be done with it. Keep the offending unit as a trail spare.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I actually bought the new center yoke and two U-Joints (I need three
>>>> joints, but one of them has the the yoke holes so mangled that I can't
>>>> get that joint out.) When I reinstalled the shaft, I noticed that the
>>>> various yokes very nearly strike one another at normal ride-height, and
>>>> when the axle drops, then a strike is assured. I have to look at my
>>>> current Trail Spare (and get it trail worthy) and see if there is an
>>>> machining difference in the old parts and the new ones that causes the
>>>> strike opportunities. My old drive shaft did not have the problems with
>>>> strikes, but the splines have worn out so I bought a new drive shaft a
>>>> few years ago, and now the worn splines are the Trail Spare.
>>>>
>>>> I could go pull a used shaft from an XJ, but I think it would be about
>>>> a foot too long to fit my CJ5.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: Troubles with Double Cardan Joint
 

I have a CJ5, so the angle is pretty steep. I have 2.5" of lift.

Remember, my old drive shaft worked fine, the new one is the one that eats
center joints. The double cardan, in and of itself, isn't the trouble. There
is something unique that I have to figure out.






"Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:iY2dnaGiQ6-g3uTenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> How high is your Jeep lifted? I had 7.5" on my 89 YJ and I did just fine
> with the 2-joint system on the front. Only XJ's have the double-cardon
> standard on the front (which is what lead me to belive you had an XJ). If
> it's in the budget, You might try a new shaft from Tom Wood.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:NuadnQyvlejCpOTeRVn-qw@ez2.net...
>> To be honest, I don't know what the angle is.
>>
>> I bought my Jeep as it sits, then broke a spring so I replaced them all
>> with the same amount of lift. The driveshaft had worn splines, so I
>> bought a new one. The new one is the one that keeps eating the center
>> joint. The original shaft never gave me a moment of trouble, but it is
>> unable to hold grease anymore, and I was worried that the splines would
>> let go at a very unpleasant moment, or let go and turn a wonderfull
>> moment into one of the most unpleasant imaginable.
>>
>> In any case, I think the body of the H-yoke and the various other yokes
>> are somehow different shapes by an 1/8 inch or so, and this 1/8 inch is
>> vital.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:rdydncXlcobfLereRVn-sA@comcast.com...
>>> Sorry, Jeff, I thought you had an XJ. Can you get an angle finder and
>>> measure your pinion angle? I can see the double cardon flexing too far
>>> if your angle was *really* bad but I think it would be easy to visually
>>> confirm. Is the pinion pointed straight back or is it pointed at the
>>> output yoke of the t-case? Can you get some pictures of the pinion, CV
>>> joint, ect?
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:a5qdnfnKUaEA4erenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:beqdnWmbpIXP7-venZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> The part you are trying to name is a centering yoke. I replaced one on
>>>>> my 89 XJ before. What a PITA. Be exeptionally careful with the little
>>>>> red cap on the back of the new one. I'd probably just go pull a used
>>>>> shaft from a junkyard XJ, slam 3 $10 U-joints and a $60 centering yoke
>>>>> in it and be done with it. Keep the offending unit as a trail spare.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I actually bought the new center yoke and two U-Joints (I need three
>>>> joints, but one of them has the the yoke holes so mangled that I can't
>>>> get that joint out.) When I reinstalled the shaft, I noticed that the
>>>> various yokes very nearly strike one another at normal ride-height, and
>>>> when the axle drops, then a strike is assured. I have to look at my
>>>> current Trail Spare (and get it trail worthy) and see if there is an
>>>> machining difference in the old parts and the new ones that causes the
>>>> strike opportunities. My old drive shaft did not have the problems with
>>>> strikes, but the splines have worn out so I bought a new drive shaft a
>>>> few years ago, and now the worn splines are the Trail Spare.
>>>>
>>>> I could go pull a used shaft from an XJ, but I think it would be about
>>>> a foot too long to fit my CJ5.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>