Troubles with Double Cardan Joint
 

I have managed to do some semi-serious damage to one of the U-joints in my
double cardan. I don't know the name of the littel center-section part, but
it pretty much fell apart, and the result is that the body of the double
cardan has struck the yoke on the drive shaft and has mangled the hole that
the U-joint cup fits into. The joint is okay for now, but when it finally
decides to take a bye, I won't be able to replace it, I'll need to have the
drive shaft section rebuilt.

This is my second drive shaft, the first one wore out the splines, but is
still serviceable as an emergency replacement that will get me home (should
the need arise) but the double cardan has never given me trouble. The drive
shaft I'm using now has given me trouble with the part that goes between the
double U-joints before, and here I am again having more trouble with the
same part.

I don't know why the double cardan is having so much trouble. When I
replaced my springs a few years ago, I had a clunking that I thought came
from the pinion angle, so I put in the spring shims that I had left out --
this proved to be wrong because the spirngs I put on were the same lift as
the springs that they replaced, and the old springs didn't need the shims --
but it turns out that the double cardan was the problem. I rebuilt the
double cardan, but left the springs shims installed.

Can I have my pinion angle so screwed up that the driveshaft is complaining,
or do you think that I just got a bad part that came loose? Also, if the
center part of the double cardan came apart (and it certainly did), could
that cause the body of the double cardan to flex so far that it is able to
strike the yokes on the drive shaft?

I'm off to the store for more U-joints and the center piece, I want you guys
to have an answer by the time I get home ...

Re: Troubles with Double Cardan Joint
 

I eventually learned to take all my universal joint problems to a machine
shop. Even if it looks OK to me, these guys know stuff that I don't, and
they work with it every day. Funny, when I was younger I knew it all...

Earle

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:wZidnfn0za662OvenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@ez2.net...
> I have managed to do some semi-serious damage to one of the U-joints in my
> double cardan. I don't know the name of the littel center-section part,
but
> it pretty much fell apart, and the result is that the body of the double
> cardan has struck the yoke on the drive shaft and has mangled the hole
that
> the U-joint cup fits into. The joint is okay for now, but when it finally
> decides to take a bye, I won't be able to replace it, I'll need to have
the
> drive shaft section rebuilt.
>
> This is my second drive shaft, the first one wore out the splines, but is
> still serviceable as an emergency replacement that will get me home
(should
> the need arise) but the double cardan has never given me trouble. The
drive
> shaft I'm using now has given me trouble with the part that goes between
the
> double U-joints before, and here I am again having more trouble with the
> same part.
>
> I don't know why the double cardan is having so much trouble. When I
> replaced my springs a few years ago, I had a clunking that I thought came
> from the pinion angle, so I put in the spring shims that I had left out --
> this proved to be wrong because the spirngs I put on were the same lift as
> the springs that they replaced, and the old springs didn't need the
shims --
> but it turns out that the double cardan was the problem. I rebuilt the
> double cardan, but left the springs shims installed.
>
> Can I have my pinion angle so screwed up that the driveshaft is
complaining,
> or do you think that I just got a bad part that came loose? Also, if the
> center part of the double cardan came apart (and it certainly did), could
> that cause the body of the double cardan to flex so far that it is able to
> strike the yokes on the drive shaft?
>
> I'm off to the store for more U-joints and the center piece, I want you
guys
> to have an answer by the time I get home ...
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Troubles with Double Cardan Joint
 

I eventually learned to take all my universal joint problems to a machine
shop. Even if it looks OK to me, these guys know stuff that I don't, and
they work with it every day. Funny, when I was younger I knew it all...

Earle

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:wZidnfn0za662OvenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@ez2.net...
> I have managed to do some semi-serious damage to one of the U-joints in my
> double cardan. I don't know the name of the littel center-section part,
but
> it pretty much fell apart, and the result is that the body of the double
> cardan has struck the yoke on the drive shaft and has mangled the hole
that
> the U-joint cup fits into. The joint is okay for now, but when it finally
> decides to take a bye, I won't be able to replace it, I'll need to have
the
> drive shaft section rebuilt.
>
> This is my second drive shaft, the first one wore out the splines, but is
> still serviceable as an emergency replacement that will get me home
(should
> the need arise) but the double cardan has never given me trouble. The
drive
> shaft I'm using now has given me trouble with the part that goes between
the
> double U-joints before, and here I am again having more trouble with the
> same part.
>
> I don't know why the double cardan is having so much trouble. When I
> replaced my springs a few years ago, I had a clunking that I thought came
> from the pinion angle, so I put in the spring shims that I had left out --
> this proved to be wrong because the spirngs I put on were the same lift as
> the springs that they replaced, and the old springs didn't need the
shims --
> but it turns out that the double cardan was the problem. I rebuilt the
> double cardan, but left the springs shims installed.
>
> Can I have my pinion angle so screwed up that the driveshaft is
complaining,
> or do you think that I just got a bad part that came loose? Also, if the
> center part of the double cardan came apart (and it certainly did), could
> that cause the body of the double cardan to flex so far that it is able to
> strike the yokes on the drive shaft?
>
> I'm off to the store for more U-joints and the center piece, I want you
guys
> to have an answer by the time I get home ...
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Troubles with Double Cardan Joint
 

I eventually learned to take all my universal joint problems to a machine
shop. Even if it looks OK to me, these guys know stuff that I don't, and
they work with it every day. Funny, when I was younger I knew it all...

Earle

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:wZidnfn0za662OvenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@ez2.net...
> I have managed to do some semi-serious damage to one of the U-joints in my
> double cardan. I don't know the name of the littel center-section part,
but
> it pretty much fell apart, and the result is that the body of the double
> cardan has struck the yoke on the drive shaft and has mangled the hole
that
> the U-joint cup fits into. The joint is okay for now, but when it finally
> decides to take a bye, I won't be able to replace it, I'll need to have
the
> drive shaft section rebuilt.
>
> This is my second drive shaft, the first one wore out the splines, but is
> still serviceable as an emergency replacement that will get me home
(should
> the need arise) but the double cardan has never given me trouble. The
drive
> shaft I'm using now has given me trouble with the part that goes between
the
> double U-joints before, and here I am again having more trouble with the
> same part.
>
> I don't know why the double cardan is having so much trouble. When I
> replaced my springs a few years ago, I had a clunking that I thought came
> from the pinion angle, so I put in the spring shims that I had left out --
> this proved to be wrong because the spirngs I put on were the same lift as
> the springs that they replaced, and the old springs didn't need the
shims --
> but it turns out that the double cardan was the problem. I rebuilt the
> double cardan, but left the springs shims installed.
>
> Can I have my pinion angle so screwed up that the driveshaft is
complaining,
> or do you think that I just got a bad part that came loose? Also, if the
> center part of the double cardan came apart (and it certainly did), could
> that cause the body of the double cardan to flex so far that it is able to
> strike the yokes on the drive shaft?
>
> I'm off to the store for more U-joints and the center piece, I want you
guys
> to have an answer by the time I get home ...
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Troubles with Double Cardan Joint
 

Jeff, there's a great driveshaft shop in Vista... I wouldn't even mess
with the centering joint.

Jerry

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> I have managed to do some semi-serious damage to one of the U-joints in
> my double cardan. I don't know the name of the littel center-section
> part, but it pretty much fell apart, and the result is that the body of
> the double cardan has struck the yoke on the drive shaft and has mangled
> the hole that the U-joint cup fits into. The joint is okay for now, but
> when it finally decides to take a bye, I won't be able to replace it,
> I'll need to have the drive shaft section rebuilt.
>
> This is my second drive shaft, the first one wore out the splines, but
> is still serviceable as an emergency replacement that will get me home
> (should the need arise) but the double cardan has never given me
> trouble. The drive shaft I'm using now has given me trouble with the
> part that goes between the double U-joints before, and here I am again
> having more trouble with the same part.
>
> I don't know why the double cardan is having so much trouble. When I
> replaced my springs a few years ago, I had a clunking that I thought
> came from the pinion angle, so I put in the spring shims that I had left
> out -- this proved to be wrong because the spirngs I put on were the
> same lift as the springs that they replaced, and the old springs didn't
> need the shims -- but it turns out that the double cardan was the
> problem. I rebuilt the double cardan, but left the springs shims installed.
>
> Can I have my pinion angle so screwed up that the driveshaft is
> complaining, or do you think that I just got a bad part that came loose?
> Also, if the center part of the double cardan came apart (and it
> certainly did), could that cause the body of the double cardan to flex
> so far that it is able to strike the yokes on the drive shaft?
>
> I'm off to the store for more U-joints and the center piece, I want you
> guys to have an answer by the time I get home ...
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: Troubles with Double Cardan Joint
 

Jeff, there's a great driveshaft shop in Vista... I wouldn't even mess
with the centering joint.

Jerry

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> I have managed to do some semi-serious damage to one of the U-joints in
> my double cardan. I don't know the name of the littel center-section
> part, but it pretty much fell apart, and the result is that the body of
> the double cardan has struck the yoke on the drive shaft and has mangled
> the hole that the U-joint cup fits into. The joint is okay for now, but
> when it finally decides to take a bye, I won't be able to replace it,
> I'll need to have the drive shaft section rebuilt.
>
> This is my second drive shaft, the first one wore out the splines, but
> is still serviceable as an emergency replacement that will get me home
> (should the need arise) but the double cardan has never given me
> trouble. The drive shaft I'm using now has given me trouble with the
> part that goes between the double U-joints before, and here I am again
> having more trouble with the same part.
>
> I don't know why the double cardan is having so much trouble. When I
> replaced my springs a few years ago, I had a clunking that I thought
> came from the pinion angle, so I put in the spring shims that I had left
> out -- this proved to be wrong because the spirngs I put on were the
> same lift as the springs that they replaced, and the old springs didn't
> need the shims -- but it turns out that the double cardan was the
> problem. I rebuilt the double cardan, but left the springs shims installed.
>
> Can I have my pinion angle so screwed up that the driveshaft is
> complaining, or do you think that I just got a bad part that came loose?
> Also, if the center part of the double cardan came apart (and it
> certainly did), could that cause the body of the double cardan to flex
> so far that it is able to strike the yokes on the drive shaft?
>
> I'm off to the store for more U-joints and the center piece, I want you
> guys to have an answer by the time I get home ...
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: Troubles with Double Cardan Joint
 

Jeff, there's a great driveshaft shop in Vista... I wouldn't even mess
with the centering joint.

Jerry

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> I have managed to do some semi-serious damage to one of the U-joints in
> my double cardan. I don't know the name of the littel center-section
> part, but it pretty much fell apart, and the result is that the body of
> the double cardan has struck the yoke on the drive shaft and has mangled
> the hole that the U-joint cup fits into. The joint is okay for now, but
> when it finally decides to take a bye, I won't be able to replace it,
> I'll need to have the drive shaft section rebuilt.
>
> This is my second drive shaft, the first one wore out the splines, but
> is still serviceable as an emergency replacement that will get me home
> (should the need arise) but the double cardan has never given me
> trouble. The drive shaft I'm using now has given me trouble with the
> part that goes between the double U-joints before, and here I am again
> having more trouble with the same part.
>
> I don't know why the double cardan is having so much trouble. When I
> replaced my springs a few years ago, I had a clunking that I thought
> came from the pinion angle, so I put in the spring shims that I had left
> out -- this proved to be wrong because the spirngs I put on were the
> same lift as the springs that they replaced, and the old springs didn't
> need the shims -- but it turns out that the double cardan was the
> problem. I rebuilt the double cardan, but left the springs shims installed.
>
> Can I have my pinion angle so screwed up that the driveshaft is
> complaining, or do you think that I just got a bad part that came loose?
> Also, if the center part of the double cardan came apart (and it
> certainly did), could that cause the body of the double cardan to flex
> so far that it is able to strike the yokes on the drive shaft?
>
> I'm off to the store for more U-joints and the center piece, I want you
> guys to have an answer by the time I get home ...
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: Troubles with Double Cardan Joint
 

You probably have more money now. I did not have 2 nickels (or pesos) to
rub together until after my younger daughter graduated.

Of course, she just told me last Sunday she is engaged so I will be without
funds until further notice.


"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:437647a3$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
>I eventually learned to take all my universal joint problems to a machine
> shop. Even if it looks OK to me, these guys know stuff that I don't, and
> they work with it every day. Funny, when I was younger I knew it all...
>
> Earle
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:wZidnfn0za662OvenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>> I have managed to do some semi-serious damage to one of the U-joints in
>> my
>> double cardan. I don't know the name of the littel center-section part,
> but
>> it pretty much fell apart, and the result is that the body of the double
>> cardan has struck the yoke on the drive shaft and has mangled the hole
> that
>> the U-joint cup fits into. The joint is okay for now, but when it finally
>> decides to take a bye, I won't be able to replace it, I'll need to have
> the
>> drive shaft section rebuilt.
>>
>> This is my second drive shaft, the first one wore out the splines, but is
>> still serviceable as an emergency replacement that will get me home
> (should
>> the need arise) but the double cardan has never given me trouble. The
> drive
>> shaft I'm using now has given me trouble with the part that goes between
> the
>> double U-joints before, and here I am again having more trouble with the
>> same part.
>>
>> I don't know why the double cardan is having so much trouble. When I
>> replaced my springs a few years ago, I had a clunking that I thought came
>> from the pinion angle, so I put in the spring shims that I had left
>> out --
>> this proved to be wrong because the spirngs I put on were the same lift
>> as
>> the springs that they replaced, and the old springs didn't need the
> shims --
>> but it turns out that the double cardan was the problem. I rebuilt the
>> double cardan, but left the springs shims installed.
>>
>> Can I have my pinion angle so screwed up that the driveshaft is
> complaining,
>> or do you think that I just got a bad part that came loose? Also, if the
>> center part of the double cardan came apart (and it certainly did), could
>> that cause the body of the double cardan to flex so far that it is able
>> to
>> strike the yokes on the drive shaft?
>>
>> I'm off to the store for more U-joints and the center piece, I want you
> guys
>> to have an answer by the time I get home ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Troubles with Double Cardan Joint
 

You probably have more money now. I did not have 2 nickels (or pesos) to
rub together until after my younger daughter graduated.

Of course, she just told me last Sunday she is engaged so I will be without
funds until further notice.


"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:437647a3$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
>I eventually learned to take all my universal joint problems to a machine
> shop. Even if it looks OK to me, these guys know stuff that I don't, and
> they work with it every day. Funny, when I was younger I knew it all...
>
> Earle
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:wZidnfn0za662OvenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>> I have managed to do some semi-serious damage to one of the U-joints in
>> my
>> double cardan. I don't know the name of the littel center-section part,
> but
>> it pretty much fell apart, and the result is that the body of the double
>> cardan has struck the yoke on the drive shaft and has mangled the hole
> that
>> the U-joint cup fits into. The joint is okay for now, but when it finally
>> decides to take a bye, I won't be able to replace it, I'll need to have
> the
>> drive shaft section rebuilt.
>>
>> This is my second drive shaft, the first one wore out the splines, but is
>> still serviceable as an emergency replacement that will get me home
> (should
>> the need arise) but the double cardan has never given me trouble. The
> drive
>> shaft I'm using now has given me trouble with the part that goes between
> the
>> double U-joints before, and here I am again having more trouble with the
>> same part.
>>
>> I don't know why the double cardan is having so much trouble. When I
>> replaced my springs a few years ago, I had a clunking that I thought came
>> from the pinion angle, so I put in the spring shims that I had left
>> out --
>> this proved to be wrong because the spirngs I put on were the same lift
>> as
>> the springs that they replaced, and the old springs didn't need the
> shims --
>> but it turns out that the double cardan was the problem. I rebuilt the
>> double cardan, but left the springs shims installed.
>>
>> Can I have my pinion angle so screwed up that the driveshaft is
> complaining,
>> or do you think that I just got a bad part that came loose? Also, if the
>> center part of the double cardan came apart (and it certainly did), could
>> that cause the body of the double cardan to flex so far that it is able
>> to
>> strike the yokes on the drive shaft?
>>
>> I'm off to the store for more U-joints and the center piece, I want you
> guys
>> to have an answer by the time I get home ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Troubles with Double Cardan Joint
 

You probably have more money now. I did not have 2 nickels (or pesos) to
rub together until after my younger daughter graduated.

Of course, she just told me last Sunday she is engaged so I will be without
funds until further notice.


"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:437647a3$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
>I eventually learned to take all my universal joint problems to a machine
> shop. Even if it looks OK to me, these guys know stuff that I don't, and
> they work with it every day. Funny, when I was younger I knew it all...
>
> Earle
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:wZidnfn0za662OvenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>> I have managed to do some semi-serious damage to one of the U-joints in
>> my
>> double cardan. I don't know the name of the littel center-section part,
> but
>> it pretty much fell apart, and the result is that the body of the double
>> cardan has struck the yoke on the drive shaft and has mangled the hole
> that
>> the U-joint cup fits into. The joint is okay for now, but when it finally
>> decides to take a bye, I won't be able to replace it, I'll need to have
> the
>> drive shaft section rebuilt.
>>
>> This is my second drive shaft, the first one wore out the splines, but is
>> still serviceable as an emergency replacement that will get me home
> (should
>> the need arise) but the double cardan has never given me trouble. The
> drive
>> shaft I'm using now has given me trouble with the part that goes between
> the
>> double U-joints before, and here I am again having more trouble with the
>> same part.
>>
>> I don't know why the double cardan is having so much trouble. When I
>> replaced my springs a few years ago, I had a clunking that I thought came
>> from the pinion angle, so I put in the spring shims that I had left
>> out --
>> this proved to be wrong because the spirngs I put on were the same lift
>> as
>> the springs that they replaced, and the old springs didn't need the
> shims --
>> but it turns out that the double cardan was the problem. I rebuilt the
>> double cardan, but left the springs shims installed.
>>
>> Can I have my pinion angle so screwed up that the driveshaft is
> complaining,
>> or do you think that I just got a bad part that came loose? Also, if the
>> center part of the double cardan came apart (and it certainly did), could
>> that cause the body of the double cardan to flex so far that it is able
>> to
>> strike the yokes on the drive shaft?
>>
>> I'm off to the store for more U-joints and the center piece, I want you
> guys
>> to have an answer by the time I get home ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>