Jerry Bransford

My '97 TJ displays the codes. :)

Jerry
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Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"JVC" <shady360@SPAMSUCKSoptonline.net> wrote in message
news:KYm2d.1759$Of4.2575330@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t...
> As far as I know the on-off-on-off-on trick only works on pre-'96
> vehicles. Vehicles built during or after the '96 model year have OBD II
> systems and you need a scanner to get the codes. At least that's my
> understanding.
>
> Jay
>
> Jason Iceman wrote:
>
>> I've been having trouble staring my '98 TJ 4cyl in the morning, and
>> I'd like to pull the trouble codes from the engine- I've tried the
>> on-off-on-off-on trick with the ignition- but neither the check engine
>> light or the odometer flashed any codes at all. Not even 55. I've
>> looked all thru the newsgroup for an answer, but with no luck. I
>> *did* see a post that said that some jeeps don't show codes, but have
>> to be hooked up to an OBD scan tool to get the codes- any truth to
>> this?
>>
>> As far as the problem itself, the first start of the day the starter
>> turns just fine and after an extra 4-5 seconds of cranking the engine
>> sometimes struggles to life. Sometimes it takes just an extra second
>> or two. After the engine does start, it runs "weak" for about 2
>> minutes, too much gas or load on the engine will stall it out. After
>> that, it's fine the balance of the day. I'll park it at work and fire
>> it up 4 hours later, and it starts and runs just fine then and at the
>> end of the day (another 5 hours later). I've been going out at 10pm
>> and running it for a minute or two, and that seems to make it easier
>> to start in the mornings. Seems like the longer it sits the worse it
>> gets- I let it sit for a day and a half once and at noon, it just
>> wouldn't start at all.
>>
>> After cranking it many times, I walked away in disgust, and then an
>> hour later, wouldntcha know, it started right up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas? Many thanks-
>>
>> Jason Iceman

Jerry Bransford

My '97 TJ displays the codes. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"JVC" <shady360@SPAMSUCKSoptonline.net> wrote in message
news:KYm2d.1759$Of4.2575330@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t...
> As far as I know the on-off-on-off-on trick only works on pre-'96
> vehicles. Vehicles built during or after the '96 model year have OBD II
> systems and you need a scanner to get the codes. At least that's my
> understanding.
>
> Jay
>
> Jason Iceman wrote:
>
>> I've been having trouble staring my '98 TJ 4cyl in the morning, and
>> I'd like to pull the trouble codes from the engine- I've tried the
>> on-off-on-off-on trick with the ignition- but neither the check engine
>> light or the odometer flashed any codes at all. Not even 55. I've
>> looked all thru the newsgroup for an answer, but with no luck. I
>> *did* see a post that said that some jeeps don't show codes, but have
>> to be hooked up to an OBD scan tool to get the codes- any truth to
>> this?
>>
>> As far as the problem itself, the first start of the day the starter
>> turns just fine and after an extra 4-5 seconds of cranking the engine
>> sometimes struggles to life. Sometimes it takes just an extra second
>> or two. After the engine does start, it runs "weak" for about 2
>> minutes, too much gas or load on the engine will stall it out. After
>> that, it's fine the balance of the day. I'll park it at work and fire
>> it up 4 hours later, and it starts and runs just fine then and at the
>> end of the day (another 5 hours later). I've been going out at 10pm
>> and running it for a minute or two, and that seems to make it easier
>> to start in the mornings. Seems like the longer it sits the worse it
>> gets- I let it sit for a day and a half once and at noon, it just
>> wouldn't start at all.
>>
>> After cranking it many times, I walked away in disgust, and then an
>> hour later, wouldntcha know, it started right up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas? Many thanks-
>>
>> Jason Iceman

Jerry Bransford

My '97 TJ displays the codes. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"JVC" <shady360@SPAMSUCKSoptonline.net> wrote in message
news:KYm2d.1759$Of4.2575330@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t...
> As far as I know the on-off-on-off-on trick only works on pre-'96
> vehicles. Vehicles built during or after the '96 model year have OBD II
> systems and you need a scanner to get the codes. At least that's my
> understanding.
>
> Jay
>
> Jason Iceman wrote:
>
>> I've been having trouble staring my '98 TJ 4cyl in the morning, and
>> I'd like to pull the trouble codes from the engine- I've tried the
>> on-off-on-off-on trick with the ignition- but neither the check engine
>> light or the odometer flashed any codes at all. Not even 55. I've
>> looked all thru the newsgroup for an answer, but with no luck. I
>> *did* see a post that said that some jeeps don't show codes, but have
>> to be hooked up to an OBD scan tool to get the codes- any truth to
>> this?
>>
>> As far as the problem itself, the first start of the day the starter
>> turns just fine and after an extra 4-5 seconds of cranking the engine
>> sometimes struggles to life. Sometimes it takes just an extra second
>> or two. After the engine does start, it runs "weak" for about 2
>> minutes, too much gas or load on the engine will stall it out. After
>> that, it's fine the balance of the day. I'll park it at work and fire
>> it up 4 hours later, and it starts and runs just fine then and at the
>> end of the day (another 5 hours later). I've been going out at 10pm
>> and running it for a minute or two, and that seems to make it easier
>> to start in the mornings. Seems like the longer it sits the worse it
>> gets- I let it sit for a day and a half once and at noon, it just
>> wouldn't start at all.
>>
>> After cranking it many times, I walked away in disgust, and then an
>> hour later, wouldntcha know, it started right up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas? Many thanks-
>>
>> Jason Iceman

mic canic

i would bet the fuel pump is bleding down
it should not drop below 10 psi overnite

Jason Iceman wrote:

> I've been having trouble staring my '98 TJ 4cyl in the morning, and
> I'd like to pull the trouble codes from the engine- I've tried the
> on-off-on-off-on trick with the ignition- but neither the check engine
> light or the odometer flashed any codes at all. Not even 55. I've
> looked all thru the newsgroup for an answer, but with no luck. I
> *did* see a post that said that some jeeps don't show codes, but have
> to be hooked up to an OBD scan tool to get the codes- any truth to
> this?
>
> As far as the problem itself, the first start of the day the starter
> turns just fine and after an extra 4-5 seconds of cranking the engine
> sometimes struggles to life. Sometimes it takes just an extra second
> or two. After the engine does start, it runs "weak" for about 2
> minutes, too much gas or load on the engine will stall it out. After
> that, it's fine the balance of the day. I'll park it at work and fire
> it up 4 hours later, and it starts and runs just fine then and at the
> end of the day (another 5 hours later). I've been going out at 10pm
> and running it for a minute or two, and that seems to make it easier
> to start in the mornings. Seems like the longer it sits the worse it
> gets- I let it sit for a day and a half once and at noon, it just
> wouldn't start at all.
>
> After cranking it many times, I walked away in disgust, and then an
> hour later, wouldntcha know, it started right up.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Many thanks-
>
> Jason Iceman

mic canic

i would bet the fuel pump is bleding down
it should not drop below 10 psi overnite

Jason Iceman wrote:

> I've been having trouble staring my '98 TJ 4cyl in the morning, and
> I'd like to pull the trouble codes from the engine- I've tried the
> on-off-on-off-on trick with the ignition- but neither the check engine
> light or the odometer flashed any codes at all. Not even 55. I've
> looked all thru the newsgroup for an answer, but with no luck. I
> *did* see a post that said that some jeeps don't show codes, but have
> to be hooked up to an OBD scan tool to get the codes- any truth to
> this?
>
> As far as the problem itself, the first start of the day the starter
> turns just fine and after an extra 4-5 seconds of cranking the engine
> sometimes struggles to life. Sometimes it takes just an extra second
> or two. After the engine does start, it runs "weak" for about 2
> minutes, too much gas or load on the engine will stall it out. After
> that, it's fine the balance of the day. I'll park it at work and fire
> it up 4 hours later, and it starts and runs just fine then and at the
> end of the day (another 5 hours later). I've been going out at 10pm
> and running it for a minute or two, and that seems to make it easier
> to start in the mornings. Seems like the longer it sits the worse it
> gets- I let it sit for a day and a half once and at noon, it just
> wouldn't start at all.
>
> After cranking it many times, I walked away in disgust, and then an
> hour later, wouldntcha know, it started right up.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Many thanks-
>
> Jason Iceman

mic canic

i would bet the fuel pump is bleding down
it should not drop below 10 psi overnite

Jason Iceman wrote:

> I've been having trouble staring my '98 TJ 4cyl in the morning, and
> I'd like to pull the trouble codes from the engine- I've tried the
> on-off-on-off-on trick with the ignition- but neither the check engine
> light or the odometer flashed any codes at all. Not even 55. I've
> looked all thru the newsgroup for an answer, but with no luck. I
> *did* see a post that said that some jeeps don't show codes, but have
> to be hooked up to an OBD scan tool to get the codes- any truth to
> this?
>
> As far as the problem itself, the first start of the day the starter
> turns just fine and after an extra 4-5 seconds of cranking the engine
> sometimes struggles to life. Sometimes it takes just an extra second
> or two. After the engine does start, it runs "weak" for about 2
> minutes, too much gas or load on the engine will stall it out. After
> that, it's fine the balance of the day. I'll park it at work and fire
> it up 4 hours later, and it starts and runs just fine then and at the
> end of the day (another 5 hours later). I've been going out at 10pm
> and running it for a minute or two, and that seems to make it easier
> to start in the mornings. Seems like the longer it sits the worse it
> gets- I let it sit for a day and a half once and at noon, it just
> wouldn't start at all.
>
> After cranking it many times, I walked away in disgust, and then an
> hour later, wouldntcha know, it started right up.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Many thanks-
>
> Jason Iceman