Tim Fisher

Anyone here watch, I think it was on 20/20 a few weeks ago, where over sees
people were scamming USA people with their cars for sale online.

Well it was tried with me.

I posted my jeep online for sale a couple of days ago. I received a email
today from a guy in the uk. between emails we somewhat negotiated a deal (I
was just doing it for kicks, it didn't sit well from the beginning, well duh
he is from the uk I am in PA, USA.)

This is the bottom line of this story he emailed me.....

"Thanks for the details, I'm glad that we could come to an understanding on
this tranction. I'm ok with the price and the condition of the 1991 Wrangler
Islander So I will instruct my client in Us who owed me some money to make a
bank certified cheque out of $9500 to you So you will deduct your payment
for the 1991 Wrangler Islander and send the excess funds to my reliable and
reliable shipping agent company via Western Union to ensure them to come
for the pick up at your Location. My client needs following information to
make you receive the cheque easily by courier services.
1. Full Name on Cheque,
2. Mailling Address,
3. Contact home phone # including wireless phone#.
Hope to read from soon.
neyo"

What I saw on 20/20 was that these people send you a check for over the
amount, you sign off your vehicle and give them the difference.
International checks could take a month or so to clear meanwhile they got
your car...Gee you think it will clear???

Cool ending...I replied

"Oh what the hell lets have alittle fun.......My client, ie my wallet, says
to wire transfer the funds or come get it with cash and I will park the jeep
until you can pick it up or have someone come and get it. Include your name
and address and contact phone number so I can get the title ready for your
purchase".

Cool huh

Tim Fisher

fletcher

Sounds very familiar to this story I read the other day.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3730401/


"Tim Fisher" <tim@ferrario.com> wrote in message
news:A6mJb.9415$Bv6.2862329@news1.epix.net...
> Anyone here watch, I think it was on 20/20 a few weeks ago, where over
sees
> people were scamming USA people with their cars for sale online.
>
> Well it was tried with me.
>
> I posted my jeep online for sale a couple of days ago. I received a email
> today from a guy in the uk. between emails we somewhat negotiated a deal
(I
> was just doing it for kicks, it didn't sit well from the beginning, well
duh
> he is from the uk I am in PA, USA.)
>
> This is the bottom line of this story he emailed me.....
>
> "Thanks for the details, I'm glad that we could come to an understanding
on
> this tranction. I'm ok with the price and the condition of the 1991
Wrangler
> Islander So I will instruct my client in Us who owed me some money to make
a
> bank certified cheque out of $9500 to you So you will deduct your payment
> for the 1991 Wrangler Islander and send the excess funds to my reliable
and
> reliable shipping agent company via Western Union to ensure them to come
> for the pick up at your Location. My client needs following information to
> make you receive the cheque easily by courier services.
> 1. Full Name on Cheque,
> 2. Mailling Address,
> 3. Contact home phone # including wireless phone#.
> Hope to read from soon.
> neyo"
>
> What I saw on 20/20 was that these people send you a check for over the
> amount, you sign off your vehicle and give them the difference.
> International checks could take a month or so to clear meanwhile they got
> your car...Gee you think it will clear???
>
> Cool ending...I replied
>
> "Oh what the hell lets have alittle fun.......My client, ie my wallet,
says
> to wire transfer the funds or come get it with cash and I will park the
jeep
> until you can pick it up or have someone come and get it. Include your
name
> and address and contact phone number so I can get the title ready for your
> purchase".
>
> Cool huh
>
> Tim Fisher
>
>

fletcher

Sounds very familiar to this story I read the other day.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3730401/


"Tim Fisher" <tim@ferrario.com> wrote in message
news:A6mJb.9415$Bv6.2862329@news1.epix.net...
> Anyone here watch, I think it was on 20/20 a few weeks ago, where over
sees
> people were scamming USA people with their cars for sale online.
>
> Well it was tried with me.
>
> I posted my jeep online for sale a couple of days ago. I received a email
> today from a guy in the uk. between emails we somewhat negotiated a deal
(I
> was just doing it for kicks, it didn't sit well from the beginning, well
duh
> he is from the uk I am in PA, USA.)
>
> This is the bottom line of this story he emailed me.....
>
> "Thanks for the details, I'm glad that we could come to an understanding
on
> this tranction. I'm ok with the price and the condition of the 1991
Wrangler
> Islander So I will instruct my client in Us who owed me some money to make
a
> bank certified cheque out of $9500 to you So you will deduct your payment
> for the 1991 Wrangler Islander and send the excess funds to my reliable
and
> reliable shipping agent company via Western Union to ensure them to come
> for the pick up at your Location. My client needs following information to
> make you receive the cheque easily by courier services.
> 1. Full Name on Cheque,
> 2. Mailling Address,
> 3. Contact home phone # including wireless phone#.
> Hope to read from soon.
> neyo"
>
> What I saw on 20/20 was that these people send you a check for over the
> amount, you sign off your vehicle and give them the difference.
> International checks could take a month or so to clear meanwhile they got
> your car...Gee you think it will clear???
>
> Cool ending...I replied
>
> "Oh what the hell lets have alittle fun.......My client, ie my wallet,
says
> to wire transfer the funds or come get it with cash and I will park the
jeep
> until you can pick it up or have someone come and get it. Include your
name
> and address and contact phone number so I can get the title ready for your
> purchase".
>
> Cool huh
>
> Tim Fisher
>
>

fletcher

Sounds very familiar to this story I read the other day.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3730401/


"Tim Fisher" <tim@ferrario.com> wrote in message
news:A6mJb.9415$Bv6.2862329@news1.epix.net...
> Anyone here watch, I think it was on 20/20 a few weeks ago, where over
sees
> people were scamming USA people with their cars for sale online.
>
> Well it was tried with me.
>
> I posted my jeep online for sale a couple of days ago. I received a email
> today from a guy in the uk. between emails we somewhat negotiated a deal
(I
> was just doing it for kicks, it didn't sit well from the beginning, well
duh
> he is from the uk I am in PA, USA.)
>
> This is the bottom line of this story he emailed me.....
>
> "Thanks for the details, I'm glad that we could come to an understanding
on
> this tranction. I'm ok with the price and the condition of the 1991
Wrangler
> Islander So I will instruct my client in Us who owed me some money to make
a
> bank certified cheque out of $9500 to you So you will deduct your payment
> for the 1991 Wrangler Islander and send the excess funds to my reliable
and
> reliable shipping agent company via Western Union to ensure them to come
> for the pick up at your Location. My client needs following information to
> make you receive the cheque easily by courier services.
> 1. Full Name on Cheque,
> 2. Mailling Address,
> 3. Contact home phone # including wireless phone#.
> Hope to read from soon.
> neyo"
>
> What I saw on 20/20 was that these people send you a check for over the
> amount, you sign off your vehicle and give them the difference.
> International checks could take a month or so to clear meanwhile they got
> your car...Gee you think it will clear???
>
> Cool ending...I replied
>
> "Oh what the hell lets have alittle fun.......My client, ie my wallet,
says
> to wire transfer the funds or come get it with cash and I will park the
jeep
> until you can pick it up or have someone come and get it. Include your
name
> and address and contact phone number so I can get the title ready for your
> purchase".
>
> Cool huh
>
> Tim Fisher
>
>

DougW

Tim Fisher did pass the time by typing:
> Anyone here watch, I think it was on 20/20 a few weeks ago, where over sees
> people were scamming USA people with their cars for sale online.

Yep.

> "Oh what the hell lets have alittle fun.......My client, ie my wallet, says
> to wire transfer the funds or come get it with cash and I will park the jeep
> until you can pick it up or have someone come and get it. Include your name
> and address and contact phone number so I can get the title ready for your
> purchase".
>
> Cool huh

heh..

Either that or tell them it will take 30 days to process that wire order
given that some people have used it for a scam. Either that or have them
wire the money via Western Union. :) Of couse they won't.. but make
them dance..

You could arrange to have them send the check to a drop-box then
frame it and put it up for sale on e-bay. :)


Either way, alert the authorities in the UK.
new.scotland.yard AT met DOT police DOT uk

--
DougW

DougW

Tim Fisher did pass the time by typing:
> Anyone here watch, I think it was on 20/20 a few weeks ago, where over sees
> people were scamming USA people with their cars for sale online.

Yep.

> "Oh what the hell lets have alittle fun.......My client, ie my wallet, says
> to wire transfer the funds or come get it with cash and I will park the jeep
> until you can pick it up or have someone come and get it. Include your name
> and address and contact phone number so I can get the title ready for your
> purchase".
>
> Cool huh

heh..

Either that or tell them it will take 30 days to process that wire order
given that some people have used it for a scam. Either that or have them
wire the money via Western Union. :) Of couse they won't.. but make
them dance..

You could arrange to have them send the check to a drop-box then
frame it and put it up for sale on e-bay. :)


Either way, alert the authorities in the UK.
new.scotland.yard AT met DOT police DOT uk

--
DougW

DougW

Tim Fisher did pass the time by typing:
> Anyone here watch, I think it was on 20/20 a few weeks ago, where over sees
> people were scamming USA people with their cars for sale online.

Yep.

> "Oh what the hell lets have alittle fun.......My client, ie my wallet, says
> to wire transfer the funds or come get it with cash and I will park the jeep
> until you can pick it up or have someone come and get it. Include your name
> and address and contact phone number so I can get the title ready for your
> purchase".
>
> Cool huh

heh..

Either that or tell them it will take 30 days to process that wire order
given that some people have used it for a scam. Either that or have them
wire the money via Western Union. :) Of couse they won't.. but make
them dance..

You could arrange to have them send the check to a drop-box then
frame it and put it up for sale on e-bay. :)


Either way, alert the authorities in the UK.
new.scotland.yard AT met DOT police DOT uk

--
DougW

Fred W.

"Tim Fisher" <tim@ferrario.com> wrote in message
news:A6mJb.9415$Bv6.2862329@news1.epix.net...
> Anyone here watch, I think it was on 20/20 a few weeks ago, where over
sees
> people were scamming USA people with their cars for sale online.
>
> Well it was tried with me.
>
> I posted my jeep online for sale a couple of days ago. I received a email
> today from a guy in the uk. between emails we somewhat negotiated a deal
(I
> was just doing it for kicks, it didn't sit well from the beginning, well
duh
> he is from the uk I am in PA, USA.)
>
> This is the bottom line of this story he emailed me.....
>
> "Thanks for the details, I'm glad that we could come to an understanding
on
> this tranction. I'm ok with the price and the condition of the 1991
Wrangler
> Islander So I will instruct my client in Us who owed me some money to make
a
> bank certified cheque out of $9500 to you So you will deduct your payment
> for the 1991 Wrangler Islander and send the excess funds to my reliable
and
> reliable shipping agent company via Western Union to ensure them to come
> for the pick up at your Location. My client needs following information to
> make you receive the cheque easily by courier services.
> 1. Full Name on Cheque,
> 2. Mailling Address,
> 3. Contact home phone # including wireless phone#.
> Hope to read from soon.
> neyo"
>
> What I saw on 20/20 was that these people send you a check for over the
> amount, you sign off your vehicle and give them the difference.
> International checks could take a month or so to clear meanwhile they got
> your car...Gee you think it will clear???
>
> Cool ending...I replied
>
> "Oh what the hell lets have alittle fun.......My client, ie my wallet,
says
> to wire transfer the funds or come get it with cash and I will park the
jeep
> until you can pick it up or have someone come and get it. Include your
name
> and address and contact phone number so I can get the title ready for your
> purchase".
>
> Cool huh
>
> Tim Fisher

I had a SAAB 9000 for sale online a few months ago and got 3 different
offers from these scam artists. It is always this same deal; that they will
send you too much money and you are to send them the excess. By the way,
the whole thing is a sham to get you to deposit their (bogus) check and then
send them some of your (good) money. Nobody ever actually shows up to pick
up the car. That would be too dangerous for them (they probably suspect
that you would already have alerted the authorities since even the the
slowest witted among us can see through this ruse in a heartbeat).

Also, it appears that none of these guys (some even claim to be gals) is
actually in England. They tell you that since all FedEx shipments to the US
from Africa are scanned for the first time upon arrival to Heathrow airport
in London. So from this end it appears they are in England when they are
actually somewhere else (Nigeria comes to mind). This also explains their
ineptitude in communication in the english language.

Here is some fun reading for you on the subject:
http://www.saabnet.com/tsn/class/scam/

-Fred W

Fred W.

"Tim Fisher" <tim@ferrario.com> wrote in message
news:A6mJb.9415$Bv6.2862329@news1.epix.net...
> Anyone here watch, I think it was on 20/20 a few weeks ago, where over
sees
> people were scamming USA people with their cars for sale online.
>
> Well it was tried with me.
>
> I posted my jeep online for sale a couple of days ago. I received a email
> today from a guy in the uk. between emails we somewhat negotiated a deal
(I
> was just doing it for kicks, it didn't sit well from the beginning, well
duh
> he is from the uk I am in PA, USA.)
>
> This is the bottom line of this story he emailed me.....
>
> "Thanks for the details, I'm glad that we could come to an understanding
on
> this tranction. I'm ok with the price and the condition of the 1991
Wrangler
> Islander So I will instruct my client in Us who owed me some money to make
a
> bank certified cheque out of $9500 to you So you will deduct your payment
> for the 1991 Wrangler Islander and send the excess funds to my reliable
and
> reliable shipping agent company via Western Union to ensure them to come
> for the pick up at your Location. My client needs following information to
> make you receive the cheque easily by courier services.
> 1. Full Name on Cheque,
> 2. Mailling Address,
> 3. Contact home phone # including wireless phone#.
> Hope to read from soon.
> neyo"
>
> What I saw on 20/20 was that these people send you a check for over the
> amount, you sign off your vehicle and give them the difference.
> International checks could take a month or so to clear meanwhile they got
> your car...Gee you think it will clear???
>
> Cool ending...I replied
>
> "Oh what the hell lets have alittle fun.......My client, ie my wallet,
says
> to wire transfer the funds or come get it with cash and I will park the
jeep
> until you can pick it up or have someone come and get it. Include your
name
> and address and contact phone number so I can get the title ready for your
> purchase".
>
> Cool huh
>
> Tim Fisher

I had a SAAB 9000 for sale online a few months ago and got 3 different
offers from these scam artists. It is always this same deal; that they will
send you too much money and you are to send them the excess. By the way,
the whole thing is a sham to get you to deposit their (bogus) check and then
send them some of your (good) money. Nobody ever actually shows up to pick
up the car. That would be too dangerous for them (they probably suspect
that you would already have alerted the authorities since even the the
slowest witted among us can see through this ruse in a heartbeat).

Also, it appears that none of these guys (some even claim to be gals) is
actually in England. They tell you that since all FedEx shipments to the US
from Africa are scanned for the first time upon arrival to Heathrow airport
in London. So from this end it appears they are in England when they are
actually somewhere else (Nigeria comes to mind). This also explains their
ineptitude in communication in the english language.

Here is some fun reading for you on the subject:
http://www.saabnet.com/tsn/class/scam/

-Fred W

Fred W.

"Tim Fisher" <tim@ferrario.com> wrote in message
news:A6mJb.9415$Bv6.2862329@news1.epix.net...
> Anyone here watch, I think it was on 20/20 a few weeks ago, where over
sees
> people were scamming USA people with their cars for sale online.
>
> Well it was tried with me.
>
> I posted my jeep online for sale a couple of days ago. I received a email
> today from a guy in the uk. between emails we somewhat negotiated a deal
(I
> was just doing it for kicks, it didn't sit well from the beginning, well
duh
> he is from the uk I am in PA, USA.)
>
> This is the bottom line of this story he emailed me.....
>
> "Thanks for the details, I'm glad that we could come to an understanding
on
> this tranction. I'm ok with the price and the condition of the 1991
Wrangler
> Islander So I will instruct my client in Us who owed me some money to make
a
> bank certified cheque out of $9500 to you So you will deduct your payment
> for the 1991 Wrangler Islander and send the excess funds to my reliable
and
> reliable shipping agent company via Western Union to ensure them to come
> for the pick up at your Location. My client needs following information to
> make you receive the cheque easily by courier services.
> 1. Full Name on Cheque,
> 2. Mailling Address,
> 3. Contact home phone # including wireless phone#.
> Hope to read from soon.
> neyo"
>
> What I saw on 20/20 was that these people send you a check for over the
> amount, you sign off your vehicle and give them the difference.
> International checks could take a month or so to clear meanwhile they got
> your car...Gee you think it will clear???
>
> Cool ending...I replied
>
> "Oh what the hell lets have alittle fun.......My client, ie my wallet,
says
> to wire transfer the funds or come get it with cash and I will park the
jeep
> until you can pick it up or have someone come and get it. Include your
name
> and address and contact phone number so I can get the title ready for your
> purchase".
>
> Cool huh
>
> Tim Fisher

I had a SAAB 9000 for sale online a few months ago and got 3 different
offers from these scam artists. It is always this same deal; that they will
send you too much money and you are to send them the excess. By the way,
the whole thing is a sham to get you to deposit their (bogus) check and then
send them some of your (good) money. Nobody ever actually shows up to pick
up the car. That would be too dangerous for them (they probably suspect
that you would already have alerted the authorities since even the the
slowest witted among us can see through this ruse in a heartbeat).

Also, it appears that none of these guys (some even claim to be gals) is
actually in England. They tell you that since all FedEx shipments to the US
from Africa are scanned for the first time upon arrival to Heathrow airport
in London. So from this end it appears they are in England when they are
actually somewhere else (Nigeria comes to mind). This also explains their
ineptitude in communication in the english language.

Here is some fun reading for you on the subject:
http://www.saabnet.com/tsn/class/scam/

-Fred W