Tricks for removing lug nuts
05-25-2006, 09:37 AM
#61
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Re: Tricks for removing lug nuts
In article <6Hhdg.50787$9c6.37914@dukeread11>,
DougW <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
#Herb Leong did pass the time by typing:
#
#> Did the cap come off the lug nut? If it did, you now have a metric lug
#> nut. 17mm or 18mm, iirc. If you still have the cap, you can use it to
#> "adapt" the metric lug nut back to a 3/4" one. The problem is that the
#> sheet metal is kinda fragile and it only works once or twice before the
#> sheet metal tears.
#
#Not to hijack the thread, but what is up with the metal cap crap?
#Guess it's one better than snap on plastic but sheesh...
They were used on the YJ so I can't blame the new German company
for that. My guess to the reason why is that the sheet metal is
cheaper to make pretty looking than a solid lug nut.
#I lost one of mine on the ZJ, but up till then never realized they were
#metal covers. Plan on getting some new (solid) lugnuts next time.
I lost one while changing a tire a week after buying my first YJ.
The POS wrench that came with the car was way less than useless as
I think it contributed to the cap coming off.
I was sooo pissed... Had to tow the bugger to a shop. I carried
a long handled Craftsman rachet, two 12-point sockets, and a AAA
card afterwards. Then after I lost my 5th (or 8th?) cap, I gave
up and got solid lug nuts. Maybe I should have kept the metric
nuts--everything else seems to be either Torx or metric on a Jeep
nowadays...
#On the plus side, once that metal comes off you basically have a locking
#lugnut. :)
I guess, but it's a crappy locking lug nut when anyone with a metric
socket or tireiron can make off with your rims. ;-)
/herb
DougW <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
#Herb Leong did pass the time by typing:
#
#> Did the cap come off the lug nut? If it did, you now have a metric lug
#> nut. 17mm or 18mm, iirc. If you still have the cap, you can use it to
#> "adapt" the metric lug nut back to a 3/4" one. The problem is that the
#> sheet metal is kinda fragile and it only works once or twice before the
#> sheet metal tears.
#
#Not to hijack the thread, but what is up with the metal cap crap?
#Guess it's one better than snap on plastic but sheesh...
They were used on the YJ so I can't blame the new German company
for that. My guess to the reason why is that the sheet metal is
cheaper to make pretty looking than a solid lug nut.
#I lost one of mine on the ZJ, but up till then never realized they were
#metal covers. Plan on getting some new (solid) lugnuts next time.
I lost one while changing a tire a week after buying my first YJ.
The POS wrench that came with the car was way less than useless as
I think it contributed to the cap coming off.
I was sooo pissed... Had to tow the bugger to a shop. I carried
a long handled Craftsman rachet, two 12-point sockets, and a AAA
card afterwards. Then after I lost my 5th (or 8th?) cap, I gave
up and got solid lug nuts. Maybe I should have kept the metric
nuts--everything else seems to be either Torx or metric on a Jeep
nowadays...
#On the plus side, once that metal comes off you basically have a locking
#lugnut. :)
I guess, but it's a crappy locking lug nut when anyone with a metric
socket or tireiron can make off with your rims. ;-)
/herb
05-25-2006, 08:24 PM
#62
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Re: Tricks for removing lug nuts
Yep, my '02 & '06 TJs came with the sheet metal covered lug nuts. It is only
a matter of time until the sheet metal falls off. I replaced all my lug nuts
with solid nuts from my local auto parts store. Then those started rusting.
Sheeze!
Tom
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:6Hhdg.50787$9c6.37914@dukeread11...
> Herb Leong did pass the time by typing:
>
> > Did the cap come off the lug nut? If it did, you now have a metric lug
> > nut. 17mm or 18mm, iirc. If you still have the cap, you can use it to
> > "adapt" the metric lug nut back to a 3/4" one. The problem is that the
> > sheet metal is kinda fragile and it only works once or twice before the
> > sheet metal tears.
>
> Not to hijack the thread, but what is up with the metal cap crap?
> Guess it's one better than snap on plastic but sheesh...
>
> I lost one of mine on the ZJ, but up till then never realized they were
> metal covers. Plan on getting some new (solid) lugnuts next time.
>
> On the plus side, once that metal comes off you basically have a locking
> lugnut. :)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
a matter of time until the sheet metal falls off. I replaced all my lug nuts
with solid nuts from my local auto parts store. Then those started rusting.
Sheeze!
Tom
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:6Hhdg.50787$9c6.37914@dukeread11...
> Herb Leong did pass the time by typing:
>
> > Did the cap come off the lug nut? If it did, you now have a metric lug
> > nut. 17mm or 18mm, iirc. If you still have the cap, you can use it to
> > "adapt" the metric lug nut back to a 3/4" one. The problem is that the
> > sheet metal is kinda fragile and it only works once or twice before the
> > sheet metal tears.
>
> Not to hijack the thread, but what is up with the metal cap crap?
> Guess it's one better than snap on plastic but sheesh...
>
> I lost one of mine on the ZJ, but up till then never realized they were
> metal covers. Plan on getting some new (solid) lugnuts next time.
>
> On the plus side, once that metal comes off you basically have a locking
> lugnut. :)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
05-25-2006, 08:24 PM
#63
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Re: Tricks for removing lug nuts
Yep, my '02 & '06 TJs came with the sheet metal covered lug nuts. It is only
a matter of time until the sheet metal falls off. I replaced all my lug nuts
with solid nuts from my local auto parts store. Then those started rusting.
Sheeze!
Tom
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:6Hhdg.50787$9c6.37914@dukeread11...
> Herb Leong did pass the time by typing:
>
> > Did the cap come off the lug nut? If it did, you now have a metric lug
> > nut. 17mm or 18mm, iirc. If you still have the cap, you can use it to
> > "adapt" the metric lug nut back to a 3/4" one. The problem is that the
> > sheet metal is kinda fragile and it only works once or twice before the
> > sheet metal tears.
>
> Not to hijack the thread, but what is up with the metal cap crap?
> Guess it's one better than snap on plastic but sheesh...
>
> I lost one of mine on the ZJ, but up till then never realized they were
> metal covers. Plan on getting some new (solid) lugnuts next time.
>
> On the plus side, once that metal comes off you basically have a locking
> lugnut. :)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
a matter of time until the sheet metal falls off. I replaced all my lug nuts
with solid nuts from my local auto parts store. Then those started rusting.
Sheeze!
Tom
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:6Hhdg.50787$9c6.37914@dukeread11...
> Herb Leong did pass the time by typing:
>
> > Did the cap come off the lug nut? If it did, you now have a metric lug
> > nut. 17mm or 18mm, iirc. If you still have the cap, you can use it to
> > "adapt" the metric lug nut back to a 3/4" one. The problem is that the
> > sheet metal is kinda fragile and it only works once or twice before the
> > sheet metal tears.
>
> Not to hijack the thread, but what is up with the metal cap crap?
> Guess it's one better than snap on plastic but sheesh...
>
> I lost one of mine on the ZJ, but up till then never realized they were
> metal covers. Plan on getting some new (solid) lugnuts next time.
>
> On the plus side, once that metal comes off you basically have a locking
> lugnut. :)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
05-25-2006, 08:24 PM
#64
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Re: Tricks for removing lug nuts
Yep, my '02 & '06 TJs came with the sheet metal covered lug nuts. It is only
a matter of time until the sheet metal falls off. I replaced all my lug nuts
with solid nuts from my local auto parts store. Then those started rusting.
Sheeze!
Tom
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:6Hhdg.50787$9c6.37914@dukeread11...
> Herb Leong did pass the time by typing:
>
> > Did the cap come off the lug nut? If it did, you now have a metric lug
> > nut. 17mm or 18mm, iirc. If you still have the cap, you can use it to
> > "adapt" the metric lug nut back to a 3/4" one. The problem is that the
> > sheet metal is kinda fragile and it only works once or twice before the
> > sheet metal tears.
>
> Not to hijack the thread, but what is up with the metal cap crap?
> Guess it's one better than snap on plastic but sheesh...
>
> I lost one of mine on the ZJ, but up till then never realized they were
> metal covers. Plan on getting some new (solid) lugnuts next time.
>
> On the plus side, once that metal comes off you basically have a locking
> lugnut. :)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
a matter of time until the sheet metal falls off. I replaced all my lug nuts
with solid nuts from my local auto parts store. Then those started rusting.
Sheeze!
Tom
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:6Hhdg.50787$9c6.37914@dukeread11...
> Herb Leong did pass the time by typing:
>
> > Did the cap come off the lug nut? If it did, you now have a metric lug
> > nut. 17mm or 18mm, iirc. If you still have the cap, you can use it to
> > "adapt" the metric lug nut back to a 3/4" one. The problem is that the
> > sheet metal is kinda fragile and it only works once or twice before the
> > sheet metal tears.
>
> Not to hijack the thread, but what is up with the metal cap crap?
> Guess it's one better than snap on plastic but sheesh...
>
> I lost one of mine on the ZJ, but up till then never realized they were
> metal covers. Plan on getting some new (solid) lugnuts next time.
>
> On the plus side, once that metal comes off you basically have a locking
> lugnut. :)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
05-27-2006, 04:51 PM
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Re: Tricks for removing lug nuts
Earle Horton proclaimed:
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:pKvcg.50659$9c6.33305@dukeread11...
>
>>aGraham did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>>In article <Rftcg.7673$JW5.5473@southeast.rr.com>,
>>>Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>It also looks really cool when you spray it onto a flame <BG>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yeah, that is how we got our camp fire started this weekend when
>>>everyone forgot the lighter fluid and the wood was a little wet...
>>>wasn't safe but did get the job done.
>>
>>You can also try this one. Take some cardboard and cut it to 2"x2"
>>stick a strike anywhere match into one of the holes (or a couple)
>>so the head just barely sticks out. Dip the thing in hot wax. Let
>>it dry and store in a ziplock bag. (keeps any melting wax from getting
>>on things in the car) The wax keeps the match safe and dry and the
>>rest acts as a real good firestarter. Used them all the time camping
>>and rafting.
>>
>
> I like Coghlan's Fire Paste, Mautz Fire Ribbon or the equivalent, and a Bic
> butane lighter all packed in a Zip-Loc bag. Total weight about five ounces.
>
> Earle
Some surplus stores have small waxy blocks that look like toilet paper
impregnated with dark amber waxy compound and one end that has an
oxidiser. Another item that works but is a bit hard to come by due to
recent troubles is C4. Burns readily with a very hot flame and will
start rather wet wood.
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:pKvcg.50659$9c6.33305@dukeread11...
>
>>aGraham did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>>In article <Rftcg.7673$JW5.5473@southeast.rr.com>,
>>>Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>It also looks really cool when you spray it onto a flame <BG>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yeah, that is how we got our camp fire started this weekend when
>>>everyone forgot the lighter fluid and the wood was a little wet...
>>>wasn't safe but did get the job done.
>>
>>You can also try this one. Take some cardboard and cut it to 2"x2"
>>stick a strike anywhere match into one of the holes (or a couple)
>>so the head just barely sticks out. Dip the thing in hot wax. Let
>>it dry and store in a ziplock bag. (keeps any melting wax from getting
>>on things in the car) The wax keeps the match safe and dry and the
>>rest acts as a real good firestarter. Used them all the time camping
>>and rafting.
>>
>
> I like Coghlan's Fire Paste, Mautz Fire Ribbon or the equivalent, and a Bic
> butane lighter all packed in a Zip-Loc bag. Total weight about five ounces.
>
> Earle
Some surplus stores have small waxy blocks that look like toilet paper
impregnated with dark amber waxy compound and one end that has an
oxidiser. Another item that works but is a bit hard to come by due to
recent troubles is C4. Burns readily with a very hot flame and will
start rather wet wood.
05-27-2006, 04:51 PM
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Re: Tricks for removing lug nuts
Earle Horton proclaimed:
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:pKvcg.50659$9c6.33305@dukeread11...
>
>>aGraham did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>>In article <Rftcg.7673$JW5.5473@southeast.rr.com>,
>>>Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>It also looks really cool when you spray it onto a flame <BG>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yeah, that is how we got our camp fire started this weekend when
>>>everyone forgot the lighter fluid and the wood was a little wet...
>>>wasn't safe but did get the job done.
>>
>>You can also try this one. Take some cardboard and cut it to 2"x2"
>>stick a strike anywhere match into one of the holes (or a couple)
>>so the head just barely sticks out. Dip the thing in hot wax. Let
>>it dry and store in a ziplock bag. (keeps any melting wax from getting
>>on things in the car) The wax keeps the match safe and dry and the
>>rest acts as a real good firestarter. Used them all the time camping
>>and rafting.
>>
>
> I like Coghlan's Fire Paste, Mautz Fire Ribbon or the equivalent, and a Bic
> butane lighter all packed in a Zip-Loc bag. Total weight about five ounces.
>
> Earle
Some surplus stores have small waxy blocks that look like toilet paper
impregnated with dark amber waxy compound and one end that has an
oxidiser. Another item that works but is a bit hard to come by due to
recent troubles is C4. Burns readily with a very hot flame and will
start rather wet wood.
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:pKvcg.50659$9c6.33305@dukeread11...
>
>>aGraham did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>>In article <Rftcg.7673$JW5.5473@southeast.rr.com>,
>>>Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>It also looks really cool when you spray it onto a flame <BG>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yeah, that is how we got our camp fire started this weekend when
>>>everyone forgot the lighter fluid and the wood was a little wet...
>>>wasn't safe but did get the job done.
>>
>>You can also try this one. Take some cardboard and cut it to 2"x2"
>>stick a strike anywhere match into one of the holes (or a couple)
>>so the head just barely sticks out. Dip the thing in hot wax. Let
>>it dry and store in a ziplock bag. (keeps any melting wax from getting
>>on things in the car) The wax keeps the match safe and dry and the
>>rest acts as a real good firestarter. Used them all the time camping
>>and rafting.
>>
>
> I like Coghlan's Fire Paste, Mautz Fire Ribbon or the equivalent, and a Bic
> butane lighter all packed in a Zip-Loc bag. Total weight about five ounces.
>
> Earle
Some surplus stores have small waxy blocks that look like toilet paper
impregnated with dark amber waxy compound and one end that has an
oxidiser. Another item that works but is a bit hard to come by due to
recent troubles is C4. Burns readily with a very hot flame and will
start rather wet wood.
05-27-2006, 04:51 PM
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Re: Tricks for removing lug nuts
Earle Horton proclaimed:
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:pKvcg.50659$9c6.33305@dukeread11...
>
>>aGraham did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>>In article <Rftcg.7673$JW5.5473@southeast.rr.com>,
>>>Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>It also looks really cool when you spray it onto a flame <BG>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yeah, that is how we got our camp fire started this weekend when
>>>everyone forgot the lighter fluid and the wood was a little wet...
>>>wasn't safe but did get the job done.
>>
>>You can also try this one. Take some cardboard and cut it to 2"x2"
>>stick a strike anywhere match into one of the holes (or a couple)
>>so the head just barely sticks out. Dip the thing in hot wax. Let
>>it dry and store in a ziplock bag. (keeps any melting wax from getting
>>on things in the car) The wax keeps the match safe and dry and the
>>rest acts as a real good firestarter. Used them all the time camping
>>and rafting.
>>
>
> I like Coghlan's Fire Paste, Mautz Fire Ribbon or the equivalent, and a Bic
> butane lighter all packed in a Zip-Loc bag. Total weight about five ounces.
>
> Earle
Some surplus stores have small waxy blocks that look like toilet paper
impregnated with dark amber waxy compound and one end that has an
oxidiser. Another item that works but is a bit hard to come by due to
recent troubles is C4. Burns readily with a very hot flame and will
start rather wet wood.
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:pKvcg.50659$9c6.33305@dukeread11...
>
>>aGraham did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>>In article <Rftcg.7673$JW5.5473@southeast.rr.com>,
>>>Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>It also looks really cool when you spray it onto a flame <BG>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yeah, that is how we got our camp fire started this weekend when
>>>everyone forgot the lighter fluid and the wood was a little wet...
>>>wasn't safe but did get the job done.
>>
>>You can also try this one. Take some cardboard and cut it to 2"x2"
>>stick a strike anywhere match into one of the holes (or a couple)
>>so the head just barely sticks out. Dip the thing in hot wax. Let
>>it dry and store in a ziplock bag. (keeps any melting wax from getting
>>on things in the car) The wax keeps the match safe and dry and the
>>rest acts as a real good firestarter. Used them all the time camping
>>and rafting.
>>
>
> I like Coghlan's Fire Paste, Mautz Fire Ribbon or the equivalent, and a Bic
> butane lighter all packed in a Zip-Loc bag. Total weight about five ounces.
>
> Earle
Some surplus stores have small waxy blocks that look like toilet paper
impregnated with dark amber waxy compound and one end that has an
oxidiser. Another item that works but is a bit hard to come by due to
recent troubles is C4. Burns readily with a very hot flame and will
start rather wet wood.
05-27-2006, 04:52 PM
#68
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Re: Tricks for removing lug nuts
DougW proclaimed:
> Herb Leong did pass the time by typing:
>
>
>>Did the cap come off the lug nut? If it did, you now have a metric lug
>>nut. 17mm or 18mm, iirc. If you still have the cap, you can use it to
>>"adapt" the metric lug nut back to a 3/4" one. The problem is that the
>>sheet metal is kinda fragile and it only works once or twice before the
>>sheet metal tears.
>
>
> Not to hijack the thread, but what is up with the metal cap crap?
> Guess it's one better than snap on plastic but sheesh...
>
> I lost one of mine on the ZJ, but up till then never realized they were
> metal covers. Plan on getting some new (solid) lugnuts next time.
>
> On the plus side, once that metal comes off you basically have a locking
> lugnut. :)
>
Not if you have a Dremel
> Herb Leong did pass the time by typing:
>
>
>>Did the cap come off the lug nut? If it did, you now have a metric lug
>>nut. 17mm or 18mm, iirc. If you still have the cap, you can use it to
>>"adapt" the metric lug nut back to a 3/4" one. The problem is that the
>>sheet metal is kinda fragile and it only works once or twice before the
>>sheet metal tears.
>
>
> Not to hijack the thread, but what is up with the metal cap crap?
> Guess it's one better than snap on plastic but sheesh...
>
> I lost one of mine on the ZJ, but up till then never realized they were
> metal covers. Plan on getting some new (solid) lugnuts next time.
>
> On the plus side, once that metal comes off you basically have a locking
> lugnut. :)
>
Not if you have a Dremel
05-27-2006, 04:52 PM
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Re: Tricks for removing lug nuts
DougW proclaimed:
> Herb Leong did pass the time by typing:
>
>
>>Did the cap come off the lug nut? If it did, you now have a metric lug
>>nut. 17mm or 18mm, iirc. If you still have the cap, you can use it to
>>"adapt" the metric lug nut back to a 3/4" one. The problem is that the
>>sheet metal is kinda fragile and it only works once or twice before the
>>sheet metal tears.
>
>
> Not to hijack the thread, but what is up with the metal cap crap?
> Guess it's one better than snap on plastic but sheesh...
>
> I lost one of mine on the ZJ, but up till then never realized they were
> metal covers. Plan on getting some new (solid) lugnuts next time.
>
> On the plus side, once that metal comes off you basically have a locking
> lugnut. :)
>
Not if you have a Dremel
> Herb Leong did pass the time by typing:
>
>
>>Did the cap come off the lug nut? If it did, you now have a metric lug
>>nut. 17mm or 18mm, iirc. If you still have the cap, you can use it to
>>"adapt" the metric lug nut back to a 3/4" one. The problem is that the
>>sheet metal is kinda fragile and it only works once or twice before the
>>sheet metal tears.
>
>
> Not to hijack the thread, but what is up with the metal cap crap?
> Guess it's one better than snap on plastic but sheesh...
>
> I lost one of mine on the ZJ, but up till then never realized they were
> metal covers. Plan on getting some new (solid) lugnuts next time.
>
> On the plus side, once that metal comes off you basically have a locking
> lugnut. :)
>
Not if you have a Dremel
05-27-2006, 04:52 PM
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Re: Tricks for removing lug nuts
DougW proclaimed:
> Herb Leong did pass the time by typing:
>
>
>>Did the cap come off the lug nut? If it did, you now have a metric lug
>>nut. 17mm or 18mm, iirc. If you still have the cap, you can use it to
>>"adapt" the metric lug nut back to a 3/4" one. The problem is that the
>>sheet metal is kinda fragile and it only works once or twice before the
>>sheet metal tears.
>
>
> Not to hijack the thread, but what is up with the metal cap crap?
> Guess it's one better than snap on plastic but sheesh...
>
> I lost one of mine on the ZJ, but up till then never realized they were
> metal covers. Plan on getting some new (solid) lugnuts next time.
>
> On the plus side, once that metal comes off you basically have a locking
> lugnut. :)
>
Not if you have a Dremel
> Herb Leong did pass the time by typing:
>
>
>>Did the cap come off the lug nut? If it did, you now have a metric lug
>>nut. 17mm or 18mm, iirc. If you still have the cap, you can use it to
>>"adapt" the metric lug nut back to a 3/4" one. The problem is that the
>>sheet metal is kinda fragile and it only works once or twice before the
>>sheet metal tears.
>
>
> Not to hijack the thread, but what is up with the metal cap crap?
> Guess it's one better than snap on plastic but sheesh...
>
> I lost one of mine on the ZJ, but up till then never realized they were
> metal covers. Plan on getting some new (solid) lugnuts next time.
>
> On the plus side, once that metal comes off you basically have a locking
> lugnut. :)
>
Not if you have a Dremel
