Transmission problems...new torque converter?
06-06-2007, 05:36 PM
#41
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Re: Transmission problems...new torque converter?
On Jun 6, 10:08 am, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:11:52 -0700, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com>
> wrote:
>
> >A transmission can go bad in that time, but not usually.
>
> I have seen them fail sooner. It all depends on how they are treated.
> Big lifts and/or over sized tires with stock gears are very hard on
> some trannies and can shorten their life a lot..
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
Well that doesn't apply to me for sure. I have 30" tires and a 2 inch
lift. Plus the tranny has spent 90% of its life with 205s and no lift.
But anyways an update: I had a guy clean it out initially and he
changed my shift points so that it shifted at higher RPMs. He said to
keep it this way for a week or so to build up pressure to flush out
any dirt that's still in there. He adjusted something under the hood
right by the TV cable so thats what I assumed he changed. I currently
cant get into contact with him which is why I was the one that
adjusted it back. I adjusted the TV cable according to the Hanes
manual, and the nature of the shuttering seemed to change. Originally,
it only shuttered when you drove it hard, now it shutters when you
drive it lightly. Now it *hardly* shutters on take-off (big
improvement), but it still shutters in 1-2, and never in 3-4. If I
floor it it drives perfectly. Someone suggested that I re-adjust the
bands because I just adjusted the TV cable and they go hand in hand.
The fact that adjusting the TV cable changed the properties of the
shutter makes me think that this is something simple, but maybe I'm
just being hopeful. Suggestions? (Also as far as new transmissions go,
*if* I do need a transmission (I say if on a conditional basis based
on your comments and the comments of the shop(s) I take it to), is it
ok to buy a rebuilt?)
Mike
> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:11:52 -0700, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com>
> wrote:
>
> >A transmission can go bad in that time, but not usually.
>
> I have seen them fail sooner. It all depends on how they are treated.
> Big lifts and/or over sized tires with stock gears are very hard on
> some trannies and can shorten their life a lot..
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
Well that doesn't apply to me for sure. I have 30" tires and a 2 inch
lift. Plus the tranny has spent 90% of its life with 205s and no lift.
But anyways an update: I had a guy clean it out initially and he
changed my shift points so that it shifted at higher RPMs. He said to
keep it this way for a week or so to build up pressure to flush out
any dirt that's still in there. He adjusted something under the hood
right by the TV cable so thats what I assumed he changed. I currently
cant get into contact with him which is why I was the one that
adjusted it back. I adjusted the TV cable according to the Hanes
manual, and the nature of the shuttering seemed to change. Originally,
it only shuttered when you drove it hard, now it shutters when you
drive it lightly. Now it *hardly* shutters on take-off (big
improvement), but it still shutters in 1-2, and never in 3-4. If I
floor it it drives perfectly. Someone suggested that I re-adjust the
bands because I just adjusted the TV cable and they go hand in hand.
The fact that adjusting the TV cable changed the properties of the
shutter makes me think that this is something simple, but maybe I'm
just being hopeful. Suggestions? (Also as far as new transmissions go,
*if* I do need a transmission (I say if on a conditional basis based
on your comments and the comments of the shop(s) I take it to), is it
ok to buy a rebuilt?)
Mike
06-06-2007, 05:38 PM
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Re: Transmission problems...new torque converter?
On Jun 5, 12:15 am, "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burg...@usa.com> wrote:
>¿On
> the outside of the transmission? ¿Huh?)
Sorry, for clarification I meant the one that has the adjuster screw
on the outside of the transmission. I think its the front band. The
other band you have to drop the pan to adjust it.
>¿On
> the outside of the transmission? ¿Huh?)
Sorry, for clarification I meant the one that has the adjuster screw
on the outside of the transmission. I think its the front band. The
other band you have to drop the pan to adjust it.
06-06-2007, 05:38 PM
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Re: Transmission problems...new torque converter?
On Jun 5, 12:15 am, "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burg...@usa.com> wrote:
>¿On
> the outside of the transmission? ¿Huh?)
Sorry, for clarification I meant the one that has the adjuster screw
on the outside of the transmission. I think its the front band. The
other band you have to drop the pan to adjust it.
>¿On
> the outside of the transmission? ¿Huh?)
Sorry, for clarification I meant the one that has the adjuster screw
on the outside of the transmission. I think its the front band. The
other band you have to drop the pan to adjust it.
06-06-2007, 05:38 PM
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Re: Transmission problems...new torque converter?
On Jun 5, 12:15 am, "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burg...@usa.com> wrote:
>¿On
> the outside of the transmission? ¿Huh?)
Sorry, for clarification I meant the one that has the adjuster screw
on the outside of the transmission. I think its the front band. The
other band you have to drop the pan to adjust it.
>¿On
> the outside of the transmission? ¿Huh?)
Sorry, for clarification I meant the one that has the adjuster screw
on the outside of the transmission. I think its the front band. The
other band you have to drop the pan to adjust it.
06-06-2007, 05:38 PM
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Re: Transmission problems...new torque converter?
On Jun 5, 12:15 am, "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burg...@usa.com> wrote:
>¿On
> the outside of the transmission? ¿Huh?)
Sorry, for clarification I meant the one that has the adjuster screw
on the outside of the transmission. I think its the front band. The
other band you have to drop the pan to adjust it.
>¿On
> the outside of the transmission? ¿Huh?)
Sorry, for clarification I meant the one that has the adjuster screw
on the outside of the transmission. I think its the front band. The
other band you have to drop the pan to adjust it.
06-06-2007, 05:40 PM
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Re: Transmission problems...new torque converter?
On Jun 5, 8:18 pm, Jon <jongodd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 5:11 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> > 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 5, 1:14 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> > >> How many miles were on the vehicle?
> > > 68,000 miles
>
> > A transmission can go bad in that time, but not usually.
>
> > --
> > XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> > The Usenet Improvement Project:http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
>
> Just to probe for data -- I'm assuming you adjusted the front band
> after the problem surfaced? Please post the spec to which you
> adjusted the band.
>
> Jon
Yea the problems been going on ever since the mud bog 3 weeks ago. I
just adjusted the band a few days ago. I didnt have an inch-lb torque
wrench so I turned the center screw until it seated and then turned
back the number of turns specified by the Hanes manual (i think it was
2.5).
> On Jun 5, 5:11 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> > 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 5, 1:14 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> > >> How many miles were on the vehicle?
> > > 68,000 miles
>
> > A transmission can go bad in that time, but not usually.
>
> > --
> > XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> > The Usenet Improvement Project:http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
>
> Just to probe for data -- I'm assuming you adjusted the front band
> after the problem surfaced? Please post the spec to which you
> adjusted the band.
>
> Jon
Yea the problems been going on ever since the mud bog 3 weeks ago. I
just adjusted the band a few days ago. I didnt have an inch-lb torque
wrench so I turned the center screw until it seated and then turned
back the number of turns specified by the Hanes manual (i think it was
2.5).
06-06-2007, 05:40 PM
#47
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Re: Transmission problems...new torque converter?
On Jun 5, 8:18 pm, Jon <jongodd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 5:11 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> > 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 5, 1:14 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> > >> How many miles were on the vehicle?
> > > 68,000 miles
>
> > A transmission can go bad in that time, but not usually.
>
> > --
> > XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> > The Usenet Improvement Project:http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
>
> Just to probe for data -- I'm assuming you adjusted the front band
> after the problem surfaced? Please post the spec to which you
> adjusted the band.
>
> Jon
Yea the problems been going on ever since the mud bog 3 weeks ago. I
just adjusted the band a few days ago. I didnt have an inch-lb torque
wrench so I turned the center screw until it seated and then turned
back the number of turns specified by the Hanes manual (i think it was
2.5).
> On Jun 5, 5:11 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> > 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 5, 1:14 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> > >> How many miles were on the vehicle?
> > > 68,000 miles
>
> > A transmission can go bad in that time, but not usually.
>
> > --
> > XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> > The Usenet Improvement Project:http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
>
> Just to probe for data -- I'm assuming you adjusted the front band
> after the problem surfaced? Please post the spec to which you
> adjusted the band.
>
> Jon
Yea the problems been going on ever since the mud bog 3 weeks ago. I
just adjusted the band a few days ago. I didnt have an inch-lb torque
wrench so I turned the center screw until it seated and then turned
back the number of turns specified by the Hanes manual (i think it was
2.5).
06-06-2007, 05:40 PM
#48
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Re: Transmission problems...new torque converter?
On Jun 5, 8:18 pm, Jon <jongodd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 5:11 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> > 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 5, 1:14 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> > >> How many miles were on the vehicle?
> > > 68,000 miles
>
> > A transmission can go bad in that time, but not usually.
>
> > --
> > XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> > The Usenet Improvement Project:http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
>
> Just to probe for data -- I'm assuming you adjusted the front band
> after the problem surfaced? Please post the spec to which you
> adjusted the band.
>
> Jon
Yea the problems been going on ever since the mud bog 3 weeks ago. I
just adjusted the band a few days ago. I didnt have an inch-lb torque
wrench so I turned the center screw until it seated and then turned
back the number of turns specified by the Hanes manual (i think it was
2.5).
> On Jun 5, 5:11 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> > 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 5, 1:14 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> > >> How many miles were on the vehicle?
> > > 68,000 miles
>
> > A transmission can go bad in that time, but not usually.
>
> > --
> > XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> > The Usenet Improvement Project:http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
>
> Just to probe for data -- I'm assuming you adjusted the front band
> after the problem surfaced? Please post the spec to which you
> adjusted the band.
>
> Jon
Yea the problems been going on ever since the mud bog 3 weeks ago. I
just adjusted the band a few days ago. I didnt have an inch-lb torque
wrench so I turned the center screw until it seated and then turned
back the number of turns specified by the Hanes manual (i think it was
2.5).
06-06-2007, 05:40 PM
#49
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Re: Transmission problems...new torque converter?
On Jun 5, 8:18 pm, Jon <jongodd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 5:11 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> > 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 5, 1:14 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> > >> How many miles were on the vehicle?
> > > 68,000 miles
>
> > A transmission can go bad in that time, but not usually.
>
> > --
> > XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> > The Usenet Improvement Project:http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
>
> Just to probe for data -- I'm assuming you adjusted the front band
> after the problem surfaced? Please post the spec to which you
> adjusted the band.
>
> Jon
Yea the problems been going on ever since the mud bog 3 weeks ago. I
just adjusted the band a few days ago. I didnt have an inch-lb torque
wrench so I turned the center screw until it seated and then turned
back the number of turns specified by the Hanes manual (i think it was
2.5).
> On Jun 5, 5:11 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> > 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 5, 1:14 pm, XS11E <x...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> > >> How many miles were on the vehicle?
> > > 68,000 miles
>
> > A transmission can go bad in that time, but not usually.
>
> > --
> > XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> > The Usenet Improvement Project:http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
>
> Just to probe for data -- I'm assuming you adjusted the front band
> after the problem surfaced? Please post the spec to which you
> adjusted the band.
>
> Jon
Yea the problems been going on ever since the mud bog 3 weeks ago. I
just adjusted the band a few days ago. I didnt have an inch-lb torque
wrench so I turned the center screw until it seated and then turned
back the number of turns specified by the Hanes manual (i think it was
2.5).
06-06-2007, 06:11 PM
#50
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Re: Transmission problems...new torque converter?
97tjMike wrote:
>
> Well that doesn't apply to me for sure. I have 30" tires and a 2 inch
> lift. Plus the tranny has spent 90% of its life with 205s and no lift.
> But anyways an update: I had a guy clean it out initially and he
> changed my shift points so that it shifted at higher RPMs. He said to
> keep it this way for a week or so to build up pressure to flush out
> any dirt that's still in there. He adjusted something under the hood
> right by the TV cable so thats what I assumed he changed. I currently
> cant get into contact with him which is why I was the one that
> adjusted it back. I adjusted the TV cable according to the Hanes
> manual, and the nature of the shuttering seemed to change. Originally,
> it only shuttered when you drove it hard, now it shutters when you
> drive it lightly. Now it *hardly* shutters on take-off (big
> improvement), but it still shutters in 1-2, and never in 3-4. If I
> floor it it drives perfectly. Someone suggested that I re-adjust the
> bands because I just adjusted the TV cable and they go hand in hand.
> The fact that adjusting the TV cable changed the properties of the
> shutter makes me think that this is something simple, but maybe I'm
> just being hopeful. Suggestions? (Also as far as new transmissions go,
> *if* I do need a transmission (I say if on a conditional basis based
> on your comments and the comments of the shop(s) I take it to), is it
> ok to buy a rebuilt?)
>
> Mike
>
I think you need another flush and adjustment. There are a lot of
passages in there. The screen might even need another clean or
replacement, likely more than not.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Well that doesn't apply to me for sure. I have 30" tires and a 2 inch
> lift. Plus the tranny has spent 90% of its life with 205s and no lift.
> But anyways an update: I had a guy clean it out initially and he
> changed my shift points so that it shifted at higher RPMs. He said to
> keep it this way for a week or so to build up pressure to flush out
> any dirt that's still in there. He adjusted something under the hood
> right by the TV cable so thats what I assumed he changed. I currently
> cant get into contact with him which is why I was the one that
> adjusted it back. I adjusted the TV cable according to the Hanes
> manual, and the nature of the shuttering seemed to change. Originally,
> it only shuttered when you drove it hard, now it shutters when you
> drive it lightly. Now it *hardly* shutters on take-off (big
> improvement), but it still shutters in 1-2, and never in 3-4. If I
> floor it it drives perfectly. Someone suggested that I re-adjust the
> bands because I just adjusted the TV cable and they go hand in hand.
> The fact that adjusting the TV cable changed the properties of the
> shutter makes me think that this is something simple, but maybe I'm
> just being hopeful. Suggestions? (Also as far as new transmissions go,
> *if* I do need a transmission (I say if on a conditional basis based
> on your comments and the comments of the shop(s) I take it to), is it
> ok to buy a rebuilt?)
>
> Mike
>
I think you need another flush and adjustment. There are a lot of
passages in there. The screen might even need another clean or
replacement, likely more than not.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
