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Greg 09-28-2004 02:55 PM

Re: transmission not shifting
 
Although I don't know much, according to freind that bought the jeep, it
is just a matter of dropping the bottom pan, cleaning or changeing the
filter, then I would guess new gasket and filler up.

"Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
news:ave6d.49106$Of3.5623@tornado.tampabay.rr.com. ..
> That sounds far less expensive then a rebuild. I really don't hear any
> type of grinding or what I can feel as slipping that would indicate
> gear/syncro problems. Do you have to pull the tranny apart to change said
> filter?
>
> Are Aamco shops any good for transmission, or should I find an independant
> shop, or some other chain store?
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Pfe6d.131280$%S.30495@pd7tw2no...
>> I just picked up a cherokee with a freind the other day, drove like
>> that, he got a good deal on it because of that, he figures it's the oil
>> filter in the tranny is plugged, has to get rpms up before it builds up
>> enough presure to get oil moving, and once it shifts, pressure goes down
>> and and wont shift to next till rpms, and pressure are up again.
>>
>> "Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
>> news:Qsc6d.58506$uN5.42188@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ...
>>> Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
>>> transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st
>>> one or this one was done.
>>>
>>> For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
>>> shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require
>>> you to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas
>>> for a second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost
>>> immediately shift into 4.
>>>
>>> Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k
>>> and let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD.
>>> Car would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just
>>> wouldn't want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the
>>> selector) and when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and
>>> move to the D position and it would go down to 3rd.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a
>>> fair amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based
>>> on age, mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine
>>> seems strong (no problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue
>>> is a slight leak in the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So
>>> I may want to fix it because it's good for hauling stuff.
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Greg 09-28-2004 02:55 PM

Re: transmission not shifting
 
Although I don't know much, according to freind that bought the jeep, it
is just a matter of dropping the bottom pan, cleaning or changeing the
filter, then I would guess new gasket and filler up.

"Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
news:ave6d.49106$Of3.5623@tornado.tampabay.rr.com. ..
> That sounds far less expensive then a rebuild. I really don't hear any
> type of grinding or what I can feel as slipping that would indicate
> gear/syncro problems. Do you have to pull the tranny apart to change said
> filter?
>
> Are Aamco shops any good for transmission, or should I find an independant
> shop, or some other chain store?
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Pfe6d.131280$%S.30495@pd7tw2no...
>> I just picked up a cherokee with a freind the other day, drove like
>> that, he got a good deal on it because of that, he figures it's the oil
>> filter in the tranny is plugged, has to get rpms up before it builds up
>> enough presure to get oil moving, and once it shifts, pressure goes down
>> and and wont shift to next till rpms, and pressure are up again.
>>
>> "Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
>> news:Qsc6d.58506$uN5.42188@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ...
>>> Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
>>> transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st
>>> one or this one was done.
>>>
>>> For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
>>> shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require
>>> you to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas
>>> for a second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost
>>> immediately shift into 4.
>>>
>>> Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k
>>> and let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD.
>>> Car would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just
>>> wouldn't want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the
>>> selector) and when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and
>>> move to the D position and it would go down to 3rd.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a
>>> fair amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based
>>> on age, mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine
>>> seems strong (no problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue
>>> is a slight leak in the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So
>>> I may want to fix it because it's good for hauling stuff.
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Greg 09-28-2004 02:55 PM

Re: transmission not shifting
 
Although I don't know much, according to freind that bought the jeep, it
is just a matter of dropping the bottom pan, cleaning or changeing the
filter, then I would guess new gasket and filler up.

"Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
news:ave6d.49106$Of3.5623@tornado.tampabay.rr.com. ..
> That sounds far less expensive then a rebuild. I really don't hear any
> type of grinding or what I can feel as slipping that would indicate
> gear/syncro problems. Do you have to pull the tranny apart to change said
> filter?
>
> Are Aamco shops any good for transmission, or should I find an independant
> shop, or some other chain store?
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Pfe6d.131280$%S.30495@pd7tw2no...
>> I just picked up a cherokee with a freind the other day, drove like
>> that, he got a good deal on it because of that, he figures it's the oil
>> filter in the tranny is plugged, has to get rpms up before it builds up
>> enough presure to get oil moving, and once it shifts, pressure goes down
>> and and wont shift to next till rpms, and pressure are up again.
>>
>> "Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
>> news:Qsc6d.58506$uN5.42188@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ...
>>> Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
>>> transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st
>>> one or this one was done.
>>>
>>> For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
>>> shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require
>>> you to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas
>>> for a second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost
>>> immediately shift into 4.
>>>
>>> Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k
>>> and let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD.
>>> Car would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just
>>> wouldn't want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the
>>> selector) and when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and
>>> move to the D position and it would go down to 3rd.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a
>>> fair amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based
>>> on age, mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine
>>> seems strong (no problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue
>>> is a slight leak in the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So
>>> I may want to fix it because it's good for hauling stuff.
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Tom T 09-28-2004 11:50 PM

Re: transmission not shifting
 
"Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message news:<ave6d.49106$Of3.5623@tornado.tampabay.rr.com >...
> That sounds far less expensive then a rebuild. I really don't hear any type
> of grinding or what I can feel as slipping that would indicate gear/syncro
> problems. Do you have to pull the tranny apart to change said filter?
>
> Are Aamco shops any good for transmission, or should I find an independant
> shop, or some other chain store?
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Pfe6d.131280$%S.30495@pd7tw2no...
> > I just picked up a cherokee with a freind the other day, drove like that,
> > he got a good deal on it because of that, he figures it's the oil filter
> > in the tranny is plugged, has to get rpms up before it builds up enough
> > presure to get oil moving, and once it shifts, pressure goes down and and
> > wont shift to next till rpms, and pressure are up again.
> >
> > "Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
> > news:Qsc6d.58506$uN5.42188@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ...
> >> Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
> >> transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st
> >> one or this one was done.
> >>
> >> For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
> >> shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require
> >> you to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas for
> >> a second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost
> >> immediately shift into 4.
> >>
> >> Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k
> >> and let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD.
> >> Car would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just
> >> wouldn't want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the
> >> selector) and when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and
> >> move to the D position and it would go down to 3rd.
> >>
> >> I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a
> >> fair amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based
> >> on age, mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine seems
> >> strong (no problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue is a
> >> slight leak in the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So I may
> >> want to fix it because it's good for hauling stuff.
> >>

> >
> > Evan, I wouldn't let AAMCO touch my transmission. They're over priced

and I bet they'll want to rebuild it right away. That's the impression
I have of the AMMACO in my area. I would try the filter/fluid change
first with an independant garage or service station. And,the independant
may have knowledge of the problem, having repaired the same on another
customer's vehicle. Yep, filter/fluid change is the cheapest fix and
you're not out much if it doesn't fix it.... can't hurt it.

Tom T

Tom T 09-28-2004 11:50 PM

Re: transmission not shifting
 
"Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message news:<ave6d.49106$Of3.5623@tornado.tampabay.rr.com >...
> That sounds far less expensive then a rebuild. I really don't hear any type
> of grinding or what I can feel as slipping that would indicate gear/syncro
> problems. Do you have to pull the tranny apart to change said filter?
>
> Are Aamco shops any good for transmission, or should I find an independant
> shop, or some other chain store?
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Pfe6d.131280$%S.30495@pd7tw2no...
> > I just picked up a cherokee with a freind the other day, drove like that,
> > he got a good deal on it because of that, he figures it's the oil filter
> > in the tranny is plugged, has to get rpms up before it builds up enough
> > presure to get oil moving, and once it shifts, pressure goes down and and
> > wont shift to next till rpms, and pressure are up again.
> >
> > "Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
> > news:Qsc6d.58506$uN5.42188@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ...
> >> Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
> >> transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st
> >> one or this one was done.
> >>
> >> For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
> >> shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require
> >> you to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas for
> >> a second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost
> >> immediately shift into 4.
> >>
> >> Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k
> >> and let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD.
> >> Car would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just
> >> wouldn't want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the
> >> selector) and when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and
> >> move to the D position and it would go down to 3rd.
> >>
> >> I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a
> >> fair amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based
> >> on age, mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine seems
> >> strong (no problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue is a
> >> slight leak in the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So I may
> >> want to fix it because it's good for hauling stuff.
> >>

> >
> > Evan, I wouldn't let AAMCO touch my transmission. They're over priced

and I bet they'll want to rebuild it right away. That's the impression
I have of the AMMACO in my area. I would try the filter/fluid change
first with an independant garage or service station. And,the independant
may have knowledge of the problem, having repaired the same on another
customer's vehicle. Yep, filter/fluid change is the cheapest fix and
you're not out much if it doesn't fix it.... can't hurt it.

Tom T

Tom T 09-28-2004 11:50 PM

Re: transmission not shifting
 
"Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message news:<ave6d.49106$Of3.5623@tornado.tampabay.rr.com >...
> That sounds far less expensive then a rebuild. I really don't hear any type
> of grinding or what I can feel as slipping that would indicate gear/syncro
> problems. Do you have to pull the tranny apart to change said filter?
>
> Are Aamco shops any good for transmission, or should I find an independant
> shop, or some other chain store?
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Pfe6d.131280$%S.30495@pd7tw2no...
> > I just picked up a cherokee with a freind the other day, drove like that,
> > he got a good deal on it because of that, he figures it's the oil filter
> > in the tranny is plugged, has to get rpms up before it builds up enough
> > presure to get oil moving, and once it shifts, pressure goes down and and
> > wont shift to next till rpms, and pressure are up again.
> >
> > "Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
> > news:Qsc6d.58506$uN5.42188@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ...
> >> Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
> >> transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st
> >> one or this one was done.
> >>
> >> For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
> >> shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require
> >> you to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas for
> >> a second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost
> >> immediately shift into 4.
> >>
> >> Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k
> >> and let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD.
> >> Car would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just
> >> wouldn't want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the
> >> selector) and when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and
> >> move to the D position and it would go down to 3rd.
> >>
> >> I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a
> >> fair amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based
> >> on age, mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine seems
> >> strong (no problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue is a
> >> slight leak in the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So I may
> >> want to fix it because it's good for hauling stuff.
> >>

> >
> > Evan, I wouldn't let AAMCO touch my transmission. They're over priced

and I bet they'll want to rebuild it right away. That's the impression
I have of the AMMACO in my area. I would try the filter/fluid change
first with an independant garage or service station. And,the independant
may have knowledge of the problem, having repaired the same on another
customer's vehicle. Yep, filter/fluid change is the cheapest fix and
you're not out much if it doesn't fix it.... can't hurt it.

Tom T


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