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Evan Mann 09-28-2004 08:06 AM

transmission not shifting
 
Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st one
or this one was done.

For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require you
to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas for a
second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost immediately
shift into 4.

Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k and
let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD. Car
would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just wouldn't
want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the selector) and
when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and move to the D
position and it would go down to 3rd.

I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a fair
amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based on age,
mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine seems strong (no
problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue is a slight leak in
the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So I may want to fix it
because it's good for hauling stuff.



Greg 09-28-2004 10:08 AM

Re: transmission not shifting
 
I just picked up a cherokee with a freind the other day, drove like that,
he got a good deal on it because of that, he figures it's the oil filter in
the tranny is plugged, has to get rpms up before it builds up enough presure
to get oil moving, and once it shifts, pressure goes down and and wont shift
to next till rpms, and pressure are up again.

"Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
news:Qsc6d.58506$uN5.42188@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ...
> Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
> transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st
> one or this one was done.
>
> For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
> shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require
> you to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas for
> a second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost immediately
> shift into 4.
>
> Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k and
> let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD. Car
> would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just
> wouldn't want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the
> selector) and when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and move
> to the D position and it would go down to 3rd.
>
> I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a
> fair amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based
> on age, mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine seems
> strong (no problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue is a
> slight leak in the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So I may
> want to fix it because it's good for hauling stuff.
>




Greg 09-28-2004 10:08 AM

Re: transmission not shifting
 
I just picked up a cherokee with a freind the other day, drove like that,
he got a good deal on it because of that, he figures it's the oil filter in
the tranny is plugged, has to get rpms up before it builds up enough presure
to get oil moving, and once it shifts, pressure goes down and and wont shift
to next till rpms, and pressure are up again.

"Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
news:Qsc6d.58506$uN5.42188@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ...
> Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
> transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st
> one or this one was done.
>
> For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
> shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require
> you to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas for
> a second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost immediately
> shift into 4.
>
> Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k and
> let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD. Car
> would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just
> wouldn't want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the
> selector) and when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and move
> to the D position and it would go down to 3rd.
>
> I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a
> fair amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based
> on age, mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine seems
> strong (no problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue is a
> slight leak in the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So I may
> want to fix it because it's good for hauling stuff.
>




Greg 09-28-2004 10:08 AM

Re: transmission not shifting
 
I just picked up a cherokee with a freind the other day, drove like that,
he got a good deal on it because of that, he figures it's the oil filter in
the tranny is plugged, has to get rpms up before it builds up enough presure
to get oil moving, and once it shifts, pressure goes down and and wont shift
to next till rpms, and pressure are up again.

"Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
news:Qsc6d.58506$uN5.42188@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ...
> Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
> transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st
> one or this one was done.
>
> For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
> shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require
> you to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas for
> a second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost immediately
> shift into 4.
>
> Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k and
> let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD. Car
> would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just
> wouldn't want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the
> selector) and when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and move
> to the D position and it would go down to 3rd.
>
> I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a
> fair amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based
> on age, mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine seems
> strong (no problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue is a
> slight leak in the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So I may
> want to fix it because it's good for hauling stuff.
>




Evan Mann 09-28-2004 10:25 AM

Re: transmission not shifting
 
That sounds far less expensive then a rebuild. I really don't hear any type
of grinding or what I can feel as slipping that would indicate gear/syncro
problems. Do you have to pull the tranny apart to change said filter?

Are Aamco shops any good for transmission, or should I find an independant
shop, or some other chain store?

"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Pfe6d.131280$%S.30495@pd7tw2no...
> I just picked up a cherokee with a freind the other day, drove like that,
> he got a good deal on it because of that, he figures it's the oil filter
> in the tranny is plugged, has to get rpms up before it builds up enough
> presure to get oil moving, and once it shifts, pressure goes down and and
> wont shift to next till rpms, and pressure are up again.
>
> "Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
> news:Qsc6d.58506$uN5.42188@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ...
>> Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
>> transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st
>> one or this one was done.
>>
>> For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
>> shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require
>> you to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas for
>> a second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost
>> immediately shift into 4.
>>
>> Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k
>> and let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD.
>> Car would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just
>> wouldn't want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the
>> selector) and when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and
>> move to the D position and it would go down to 3rd.
>>
>> I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a
>> fair amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based
>> on age, mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine seems
>> strong (no problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue is a
>> slight leak in the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So I may
>> want to fix it because it's good for hauling stuff.
>>

>
>




Evan Mann 09-28-2004 10:25 AM

Re: transmission not shifting
 
That sounds far less expensive then a rebuild. I really don't hear any type
of grinding or what I can feel as slipping that would indicate gear/syncro
problems. Do you have to pull the tranny apart to change said filter?

Are Aamco shops any good for transmission, or should I find an independant
shop, or some other chain store?

"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Pfe6d.131280$%S.30495@pd7tw2no...
> I just picked up a cherokee with a freind the other day, drove like that,
> he got a good deal on it because of that, he figures it's the oil filter
> in the tranny is plugged, has to get rpms up before it builds up enough
> presure to get oil moving, and once it shifts, pressure goes down and and
> wont shift to next till rpms, and pressure are up again.
>
> "Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
> news:Qsc6d.58506$uN5.42188@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ...
>> Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
>> transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st
>> one or this one was done.
>>
>> For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
>> shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require
>> you to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas for
>> a second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost
>> immediately shift into 4.
>>
>> Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k
>> and let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD.
>> Car would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just
>> wouldn't want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the
>> selector) and when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and
>> move to the D position and it would go down to 3rd.
>>
>> I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a
>> fair amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based
>> on age, mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine seems
>> strong (no problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue is a
>> slight leak in the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So I may
>> want to fix it because it's good for hauling stuff.
>>

>
>




Evan Mann 09-28-2004 10:25 AM

Re: transmission not shifting
 
That sounds far less expensive then a rebuild. I really don't hear any type
of grinding or what I can feel as slipping that would indicate gear/syncro
problems. Do you have to pull the tranny apart to change said filter?

Are Aamco shops any good for transmission, or should I find an independant
shop, or some other chain store?

"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Pfe6d.131280$%S.30495@pd7tw2no...
> I just picked up a cherokee with a freind the other day, drove like that,
> he got a good deal on it because of that, he figures it's the oil filter
> in the tranny is plugged, has to get rpms up before it builds up enough
> presure to get oil moving, and once it shifts, pressure goes down and and
> wont shift to next till rpms, and pressure are up again.
>
> "Evan Mann" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
> news:Qsc6d.58506$uN5.42188@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ...
>> Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
>> transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st
>> one or this one was done.
>>
>> For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
>> shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require
>> you to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas for
>> a second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost
>> immediately shift into 4.
>>
>> Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k
>> and let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD.
>> Car would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just
>> wouldn't want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the
>> selector) and when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and
>> move to the D position and it would go down to 3rd.
>>
>> I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a
>> fair amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based
>> on age, mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine seems
>> strong (no problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue is a
>> slight leak in the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So I may
>> want to fix it because it's good for hauling stuff.
>>

>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-28-2004 12:55 PM

Re: transmission not shifting
 

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Evan Mann wrote:
>
> Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
> transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st one
> or this one was done.
>
> For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
> shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require you
> to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas for a
> second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost immediately
> shift into 4.
>
> Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k and
> let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD. Car
> would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just wouldn't
> want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the selector) and
> when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and move to the D
> position and it would go down to 3rd.
>
> I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a fair
> amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based on age,
> mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine seems strong (no
> problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue is a slight leak in
> the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So I may want to fix it
> because it's good for hauling stuff.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-28-2004 12:55 PM

Re: transmission not shifting
 

http://www.transonline.com/transdige...ers/index.html
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Evan Mann wrote:
>
> Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
> transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st one
> or this one was done.
>
> For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
> shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require you
> to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas for a
> second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost immediately
> shift into 4.
>
> Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k and
> let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD. Car
> would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just wouldn't
> want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the selector) and
> when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and move to the D
> position and it would go down to 3rd.
>
> I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a fair
> amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based on age,
> mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine seems strong (no
> problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue is a slight leak in
> the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So I may want to fix it
> because it's good for hauling stuff.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-28-2004 12:55 PM

Re: transmission not shifting
 

http://www.transonline.com/transdige...ers/index.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Evan Mann wrote:
>
> Have a 94 Grand Cherokee with I6, automatic, and it's on it's 2nd
> transmission rebuild at 153k miles. Don't recall mileages when the 1st one
> or this one was done.
>
> For many thousands of miles the transmission has been getting worse to
> shift. It shifts from 1-2 fine but getting frm 2-3 would often require you
> to get up to 2.5-3K+ RPM range and then let your foot off the gas for a
> second for it to shift. It would then shift to 3 and almost immediately
> shift into 4.
>
> Yesterday the car was bad. I'd have to go all the way to more then 3k and
> let off the gas for a few seconds and it would shift to 3rd HARD. Car
> would jolt front-to-back pretty bad. Then all of a sudden it just wouldn't
> want to shift into third. I had to start off in 2nd (on the selector) and
> when I hit 3000-3100 RPM in 2nd I'd let off the gas and move to the D
> position and it would go down to 3rd.
>
> I'm trying to get a guestimaet at what would be the problem and what a fair
> amount to fix it would be. The car isn't worth more then $2k based on age,
> mileage, and condition of exterior/interior, but the engine seems strong (no
> problems in 153k miles) and the only other known issue is a slight leak in
> the transfer case (a few drips per day if that). So I may want to fix it
> because it's good for hauling stuff.



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