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Joshua Nelson 10-30-2003 11:47 AM

Transfer case options
 
The recent thread about transmissions has got me thinking. I've been
reading some of the archives about aftermarket transfer cases, as mine
is still stock. The "Atlas II" seems to be mentioned quite a bit as
the ultimate t-case. However, there are a few things I don't
understand in what I've read:

1) What is a "twin-stick" transmission and why is it special? Aren't
virtually all 4wd transmissions "twin-stick", one to shift the regular
gears and the other to shift in and out of four wheel drive?

2) Some of the nicer aftermarket cases apparently have some weird
drive power options, such as 2wd low and front-wheel-drive-only!
Other than just being 'different', what are the advantages to driving
with these unusual configurations?


P.S. I also noticed in the archives that the CJ's Dana 300 is
generally regarded as far superior to the TJ's NP351. ;-)

Jeepers 10-30-2003 12:02 PM

Re: Transfer case options
 
In article <b102b6e4.0310300847.3cb5a247@posting.google.com >,
spam_box@ev1.net (Joshua Nelson) wrote:

> The recent thread about transmissions has got me thinking. I've been
> reading some of the archives about aftermarket transfer cases, as mine
> is still stock. The "Atlas II" seems to be mentioned quite a bit as
> the ultimate t-case. However, there are a few things I don't
> understand in what I've read:
>
> 1) What is a "twin-stick" transmission and why is it special? Aren't
> virtually all 4wd transmissions "twin-stick", one to shift the regular
> gears and the other to shift in and out of four wheel drive?
>

That would be a Twin Stick TRANSFER CASE, not transmission. Most
transfer cases hava a single stick that controls two rods in the TC. A
twin stick refit allows for the individual rod controls...

> 2) Some of the nicer aftermarket cases apparently have some weird
> drive power options, such as 2wd low and front-wheel-drive-only!
> Other than just being 'different', what are the advantages to driving
> with these unusual configurations?


....which allow for someone to put their ride in front wheel drive to
drag the back end around an obstcle with a hand brake on -or- front
wheel drive when the rear diff has exploded, to limp home. Or two wheel
low to the rear only.

>
>
> P.S. I also noticed in the archives that the CJ's Dana 300 is
> generally regarded as far superior to the TJ's NP351. ;-)


My D300 twin stick retrofit and tera low install is somewhere on this
link behind a green jeep:
http://sprite.viptx.net/~moomesa/main.html

note the Dana 18 refrence, that TC had the twin stick OEM


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Jeepers 10-30-2003 12:02 PM

Re: Transfer case options
 
In article <b102b6e4.0310300847.3cb5a247@posting.google.com >,
spam_box@ev1.net (Joshua Nelson) wrote:

> The recent thread about transmissions has got me thinking. I've been
> reading some of the archives about aftermarket transfer cases, as mine
> is still stock. The "Atlas II" seems to be mentioned quite a bit as
> the ultimate t-case. However, there are a few things I don't
> understand in what I've read:
>
> 1) What is a "twin-stick" transmission and why is it special? Aren't
> virtually all 4wd transmissions "twin-stick", one to shift the regular
> gears and the other to shift in and out of four wheel drive?
>

That would be a Twin Stick TRANSFER CASE, not transmission. Most
transfer cases hava a single stick that controls two rods in the TC. A
twin stick refit allows for the individual rod controls...

> 2) Some of the nicer aftermarket cases apparently have some weird
> drive power options, such as 2wd low and front-wheel-drive-only!
> Other than just being 'different', what are the advantages to driving
> with these unusual configurations?


....which allow for someone to put their ride in front wheel drive to
drag the back end around an obstcle with a hand brake on -or- front
wheel drive when the rear diff has exploded, to limp home. Or two wheel
low to the rear only.

>
>
> P.S. I also noticed in the archives that the CJ's Dana 300 is
> generally regarded as far superior to the TJ's NP351. ;-)


My D300 twin stick retrofit and tera low install is somewhere on this
link behind a green jeep:
http://sprite.viptx.net/~moomesa/main.html

note the Dana 18 refrence, that TC had the twin stick OEM


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Jeepers 10-30-2003 12:02 PM

Re: Transfer case options
 
In article <b102b6e4.0310300847.3cb5a247@posting.google.com >,
spam_box@ev1.net (Joshua Nelson) wrote:

> The recent thread about transmissions has got me thinking. I've been
> reading some of the archives about aftermarket transfer cases, as mine
> is still stock. The "Atlas II" seems to be mentioned quite a bit as
> the ultimate t-case. However, there are a few things I don't
> understand in what I've read:
>
> 1) What is a "twin-stick" transmission and why is it special? Aren't
> virtually all 4wd transmissions "twin-stick", one to shift the regular
> gears and the other to shift in and out of four wheel drive?
>

That would be a Twin Stick TRANSFER CASE, not transmission. Most
transfer cases hava a single stick that controls two rods in the TC. A
twin stick refit allows for the individual rod controls...

> 2) Some of the nicer aftermarket cases apparently have some weird
> drive power options, such as 2wd low and front-wheel-drive-only!
> Other than just being 'different', what are the advantages to driving
> with these unusual configurations?


....which allow for someone to put their ride in front wheel drive to
drag the back end around an obstcle with a hand brake on -or- front
wheel drive when the rear diff has exploded, to limp home. Or two wheel
low to the rear only.

>
>
> P.S. I also noticed in the archives that the CJ's Dana 300 is
> generally regarded as far superior to the TJ's NP351. ;-)


My D300 twin stick retrofit and tera low install is somewhere on this
link behind a green jeep:
http://sprite.viptx.net/~moomesa/main.html

note the Dana 18 refrence, that TC had the twin stick OEM


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Kevin Sperle 10-30-2003 12:07 PM

Re: Transfer case options
 
The "twin stick" you are refferring to is one for the transmission, one for
the transfer case.

A twin stick T/C actually means you will have 3 sticks (1 tranny, 2 t/c).
Some people with lockers in the front need to be able to easily disengage
the front axles while going around tight corners on teh trail or maneuvering
around obstacles. A twin stick allows you to do it without getting out to
unlock your front hubs. Just a few uses, surely there are more.

Yes, the Dana 300 is widely considered to be one of the best jeep transfer
cases.

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310300847.3cb5a247@posting.google.c om...
> The recent thread about transmissions has got me thinking. I've been
> reading some of the archives about aftermarket transfer cases, as mine
> is still stock. The "Atlas II" seems to be mentioned quite a bit as
> the ultimate t-case. However, there are a few things I don't
> understand in what I've read:
>
> 1) What is a "twin-stick" transmission and why is it special? Aren't
> virtually all 4wd transmissions "twin-stick", one to shift the regular
> gears and the other to shift in and out of four wheel drive?
>
> 2) Some of the nicer aftermarket cases apparently have some weird
> drive power options, such as 2wd low and front-wheel-drive-only!
> Other than just being 'different', what are the advantages to driving
> with these unusual configurations?
>
>
> P.S. I also noticed in the archives that the CJ's Dana 300 is
> generally regarded as far superior to the TJ's NP351. ;-)




Kevin Sperle 10-30-2003 12:07 PM

Re: Transfer case options
 
The "twin stick" you are refferring to is one for the transmission, one for
the transfer case.

A twin stick T/C actually means you will have 3 sticks (1 tranny, 2 t/c).
Some people with lockers in the front need to be able to easily disengage
the front axles while going around tight corners on teh trail or maneuvering
around obstacles. A twin stick allows you to do it without getting out to
unlock your front hubs. Just a few uses, surely there are more.

Yes, the Dana 300 is widely considered to be one of the best jeep transfer
cases.

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310300847.3cb5a247@posting.google.c om...
> The recent thread about transmissions has got me thinking. I've been
> reading some of the archives about aftermarket transfer cases, as mine
> is still stock. The "Atlas II" seems to be mentioned quite a bit as
> the ultimate t-case. However, there are a few things I don't
> understand in what I've read:
>
> 1) What is a "twin-stick" transmission and why is it special? Aren't
> virtually all 4wd transmissions "twin-stick", one to shift the regular
> gears and the other to shift in and out of four wheel drive?
>
> 2) Some of the nicer aftermarket cases apparently have some weird
> drive power options, such as 2wd low and front-wheel-drive-only!
> Other than just being 'different', what are the advantages to driving
> with these unusual configurations?
>
>
> P.S. I also noticed in the archives that the CJ's Dana 300 is
> generally regarded as far superior to the TJ's NP351. ;-)




Kevin Sperle 10-30-2003 12:07 PM

Re: Transfer case options
 
The "twin stick" you are refferring to is one for the transmission, one for
the transfer case.

A twin stick T/C actually means you will have 3 sticks (1 tranny, 2 t/c).
Some people with lockers in the front need to be able to easily disengage
the front axles while going around tight corners on teh trail or maneuvering
around obstacles. A twin stick allows you to do it without getting out to
unlock your front hubs. Just a few uses, surely there are more.

Yes, the Dana 300 is widely considered to be one of the best jeep transfer
cases.

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310300847.3cb5a247@posting.google.c om...
> The recent thread about transmissions has got me thinking. I've been
> reading some of the archives about aftermarket transfer cases, as mine
> is still stock. The "Atlas II" seems to be mentioned quite a bit as
> the ultimate t-case. However, there are a few things I don't
> understand in what I've read:
>
> 1) What is a "twin-stick" transmission and why is it special? Aren't
> virtually all 4wd transmissions "twin-stick", one to shift the regular
> gears and the other to shift in and out of four wheel drive?
>
> 2) Some of the nicer aftermarket cases apparently have some weird
> drive power options, such as 2wd low and front-wheel-drive-only!
> Other than just being 'different', what are the advantages to driving
> with these unusual configurations?
>
>
> P.S. I also noticed in the archives that the CJ's Dana 300 is
> generally regarded as far superior to the TJ's NP351. ;-)




Dave Milne 10-30-2003 12:17 PM

Re: Transfer case options
 
The 231 in the TJ is just one stick - you get rwd, 4wd high and 4wd low.

I guess 2wd low could be useful if you want to manoeuver a trailer on tarmac
precisely and if it avoids you slipping the clutch.
Fwd is best avoided as the front diff is smaller than the rear diff, but is
a bonus if you have just grenaded your rear powertrain...


Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310300847.3cb5a247@posting.google.c om...
: The recent thread about transmissions has got me thinking. I've been
: reading some of the archives about aftermarket transfer cases, as mine
: is still stock. The "Atlas II" seems to be mentioned quite a bit as
: the ultimate t-case. However, there are a few things I don't
: understand in what I've read:
:
: 1) What is a "twin-stick" transmission and why is it special? Aren't
: virtually all 4wd transmissions "twin-stick", one to shift the regular
: gears and the other to shift in and out of four wheel drive?
:
: 2) Some of the nicer aftermarket cases apparently have some weird
: drive power options, such as 2wd low and front-wheel-drive-only!
: Other than just being 'different', what are the advantages to driving
: with these unusual configurations?
:
:
: P.S. I also noticed in the archives that the CJ's Dana 300 is
: generally regarded as far superior to the TJ's NP351. ;-)



Dave Milne 10-30-2003 12:17 PM

Re: Transfer case options
 
The 231 in the TJ is just one stick - you get rwd, 4wd high and 4wd low.

I guess 2wd low could be useful if you want to manoeuver a trailer on tarmac
precisely and if it avoids you slipping the clutch.
Fwd is best avoided as the front diff is smaller than the rear diff, but is
a bonus if you have just grenaded your rear powertrain...


Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310300847.3cb5a247@posting.google.c om...
: The recent thread about transmissions has got me thinking. I've been
: reading some of the archives about aftermarket transfer cases, as mine
: is still stock. The "Atlas II" seems to be mentioned quite a bit as
: the ultimate t-case. However, there are a few things I don't
: understand in what I've read:
:
: 1) What is a "twin-stick" transmission and why is it special? Aren't
: virtually all 4wd transmissions "twin-stick", one to shift the regular
: gears and the other to shift in and out of four wheel drive?
:
: 2) Some of the nicer aftermarket cases apparently have some weird
: drive power options, such as 2wd low and front-wheel-drive-only!
: Other than just being 'different', what are the advantages to driving
: with these unusual configurations?
:
:
: P.S. I also noticed in the archives that the CJ's Dana 300 is
: generally regarded as far superior to the TJ's NP351. ;-)



Dave Milne 10-30-2003 12:17 PM

Re: Transfer case options
 
The 231 in the TJ is just one stick - you get rwd, 4wd high and 4wd low.

I guess 2wd low could be useful if you want to manoeuver a trailer on tarmac
precisely and if it avoids you slipping the clutch.
Fwd is best avoided as the front diff is smaller than the rear diff, but is
a bonus if you have just grenaded your rear powertrain...


Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310300847.3cb5a247@posting.google.c om...
: The recent thread about transmissions has got me thinking. I've been
: reading some of the archives about aftermarket transfer cases, as mine
: is still stock. The "Atlas II" seems to be mentioned quite a bit as
: the ultimate t-case. However, there are a few things I don't
: understand in what I've read:
:
: 1) What is a "twin-stick" transmission and why is it special? Aren't
: virtually all 4wd transmissions "twin-stick", one to shift the regular
: gears and the other to shift in and out of four wheel drive?
:
: 2) Some of the nicer aftermarket cases apparently have some weird
: drive power options, such as 2wd low and front-wheel-drive-only!
: Other than just being 'different', what are the advantages to driving
: with these unusual configurations?
:
:
: P.S. I also noticed in the archives that the CJ's Dana 300 is
: generally regarded as far superior to the TJ's NP351. ;-)




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