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transfer case determination
how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with
the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo |
Re: transfer case determination
NP231.
Carl "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... > how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with > the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo > |
Re: transfer case determination
NP231.
Carl "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... > how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with > the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo > |
Re: transfer case determination
NP231.
Carl "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... > how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with > the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo > |
Re: transfer case determination
petethepirate wrote:
> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with > the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo NP231 "Command Trac" http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/np231.htm It's a "part time" system. So you only want to use 2H on hard surfaces. 4H and 4L are for offroad/dirt/gravel only and will damage the xfr case if you run it on hard surfaces. -- DougW |
Re: transfer case determination
petethepirate wrote:
> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with > the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo NP231 "Command Trac" http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/np231.htm It's a "part time" system. So you only want to use 2H on hard surfaces. 4H and 4L are for offroad/dirt/gravel only and will damage the xfr case if you run it on hard surfaces. -- DougW |
Re: transfer case determination
petethepirate wrote:
> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with > the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo NP231 "Command Trac" http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/np231.htm It's a "part time" system. So you only want to use 2H on hard surfaces. 4H and 4L are for offroad/dirt/gravel only and will damage the xfr case if you run it on hard surfaces. -- DougW |
Re: transfer case determination
"petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... > how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with > the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo > You have the NP231. Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. |
Re: transfer case determination
"petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... > how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with > the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo > You have the NP231. Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. |
Re: transfer case determination
"petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... > how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with > the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo > You have the NP231. Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. |
Re: transfer case determination
Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee?
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... > > "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >> > > You have the NP231. > > Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get a > good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. |
Re: transfer case determination
Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee?
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... > > "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >> > > You have the NP231. > > Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get a > good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. |
Re: transfer case determination
Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee?
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... > > "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >> > > You have the NP231. > > Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get a > good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. |
Re: transfer case determination
Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the 232
is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and eventually fails. "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... > Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >> >> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>> >> >> You have the NP231. >> >> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get a >> good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. > > |
Re: transfer case determination
Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the 232
is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and eventually fails. "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... > Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >> >> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>> >> >> You have the NP231. >> >> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get a >> good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. > > |
Re: transfer case determination
Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the 232
is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and eventually fails. "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... > Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >> >> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>> >> >> You have the NP231. >> >> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get a >> good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. > > |
Re: transfer case determination
Mechanically, the NP231 and NP231 use very similar gear cases. The NP231
has a planitary gear setup for high/lo range and the NP232 has a diferential gear in the same location. Jeff Strickland wrote: > Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the > 232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras > the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. > > As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed > differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and > rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front > and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates > this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and > eventually fails. > > > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... > >> Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >> >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >> >>> >>> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >>> >>>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>> >>> >>> You have the NP231. >>> >>> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get >>> a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. >> >> >> > |
Re: transfer case determination
Mechanically, the NP231 and NP231 use very similar gear cases. The NP231
has a planitary gear setup for high/lo range and the NP232 has a diferential gear in the same location. Jeff Strickland wrote: > Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the > 232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras > the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. > > As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed > differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and > rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front > and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates > this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and > eventually fails. > > > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... > >> Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >> >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >> >>> >>> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >>> >>>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>> >>> >>> You have the NP231. >>> >>> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get >>> a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. >> >> >> > |
Re: transfer case determination
Mechanically, the NP231 and NP231 use very similar gear cases. The NP231
has a planitary gear setup for high/lo range and the NP232 has a diferential gear in the same location. Jeff Strickland wrote: > Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the > 232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras > the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. > > As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed > differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and > rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front > and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates > this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and > eventually fails. > > > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... > >> Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >> >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >> >>> >>> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >>> >>>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>> >>> >>> You have the NP231. >>> >>> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get >>> a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. >> >> >> > |
Re: transfer case determination
I wish I had full time 4x4. I do have the 231.
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:5QJIh.119$qe5.4@trnddc05... > Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the > 232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras the > 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. > > As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed differences > from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and rear axles > travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front and rear > axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates this > difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and eventually > fails. > > > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... >> Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >> >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >>> >>> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >>>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>> >>> >>> You have the NP231. >>> >>> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get a >>> good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. >> >> > |
Re: transfer case determination
I wish I had full time 4x4. I do have the 231.
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:5QJIh.119$qe5.4@trnddc05... > Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the > 232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras the > 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. > > As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed differences > from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and rear axles > travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front and rear > axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates this > difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and eventually > fails. > > > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... >> Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >> >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >>> >>> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >>>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>> >>> >>> You have the NP231. >>> >>> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get a >>> good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. >> >> > |
Re: transfer case determination
I wish I had full time 4x4. I do have the 231.
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:5QJIh.119$qe5.4@trnddc05... > Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the > 232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras the > 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. > > As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed differences > from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and rear axles > travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front and rear > axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates this > difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and eventually > fails. > > > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... >> Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >> >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >>> >>> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >>>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>> >>> >>> You have the NP231. >>> >>> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get a >>> good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. >> >> > |
Re: transfer case determination
do u you need one ?
i have one on the bench getting ready for a set new of synco's Carl S wrote: > NP231. > > Carl > > "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... > > how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with > > the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo > > |
Re: transfer case determination
do u you need one ?
i have one on the bench getting ready for a set new of synco's Carl S wrote: > NP231. > > Carl > > "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... > > how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with > > the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo > > |
Re: transfer case determination
do u you need one ?
i have one on the bench getting ready for a set new of synco's Carl S wrote: > NP231. > > Carl > > "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... > > how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with > > the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo > > |
Re: transfer case determination
the np 231 and the np231 share the same case??????
RoyJ wrote: > Mechanically, the NP231 and NP231 use very similar gear cases. The NP231 > has a planitary gear setup for high/lo range and the NP232 has a > diferential gear in the same location. > > Jeff Strickland wrote: > > > Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the > > 232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras > > the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. > > > > As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed > > differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and > > rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front > > and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates > > this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and > > eventually fails. > > > > > > > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... > > > >> Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? > >> > >> > >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > >> news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... > >> > >>> > >>> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message > >>> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... > >>> > >>>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with > >>>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo > >>>> > >>> > >>> You have the NP231. > >>> > >>> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get > >>> a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. > >> > >> > >> > > |
Re: transfer case determination
the np 231 and the np231 share the same case??????
RoyJ wrote: > Mechanically, the NP231 and NP231 use very similar gear cases. The NP231 > has a planitary gear setup for high/lo range and the NP232 has a > diferential gear in the same location. > > Jeff Strickland wrote: > > > Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the > > 232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras > > the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. > > > > As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed > > differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and > > rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front > > and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates > > this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and > > eventually fails. > > > > > > > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... > > > >> Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? > >> > >> > >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > >> news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... > >> > >>> > >>> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message > >>> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... > >>> > >>>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with > >>>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo > >>>> > >>> > >>> You have the NP231. > >>> > >>> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get > >>> a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. > >> > >> > >> > > |
Re: transfer case determination
the np 231 and the np231 share the same case??????
RoyJ wrote: > Mechanically, the NP231 and NP231 use very similar gear cases. The NP231 > has a planitary gear setup for high/lo range and the NP232 has a > diferential gear in the same location. > > Jeff Strickland wrote: > > > Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the > > 232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras > > the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. > > > > As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed > > differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and > > rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front > > and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates > > this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and > > eventually fails. > > > > > > > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... > > > >> Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? > >> > >> > >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > >> news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... > >> > >>> > >>> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message > >>> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... > >>> > >>>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with > >>>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo > >>>> > >>> > >>> You have the NP231. > >>> > >>> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get > >>> a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. > >> > >> > >> > > |
Re: transfer case determination
No, the design is very similar but the cases are not quite the same.
Fair number of interchangable parts. philthy wrote: > the np 231 and the np231 share the same case?????? > > RoyJ wrote: > > >>Mechanically, the NP231 and NP231 use very similar gear cases. The NP231 >>has a planitary gear setup for high/lo range and the NP232 has a >>diferential gear in the same location. >> >>Jeff Strickland wrote: >> >> >>>Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the >>>232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras >>>the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. >>> >>>As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed >>>differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and >>>rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front >>>and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates >>>this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and >>>eventually fails. >>> >>> >>> >>>"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodig y.net... >>> >>> >>>>Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >>>> >>>> >>>>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >>>> >>>> >>>>>"petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googl egroups.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>>>>>the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>You have the NP231. >>>>> >>>>>Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get >>>>>a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. >>>> >>>> >>>> > |
Re: transfer case determination
No, the design is very similar but the cases are not quite the same.
Fair number of interchangable parts. philthy wrote: > the np 231 and the np231 share the same case?????? > > RoyJ wrote: > > >>Mechanically, the NP231 and NP231 use very similar gear cases. The NP231 >>has a planitary gear setup for high/lo range and the NP232 has a >>diferential gear in the same location. >> >>Jeff Strickland wrote: >> >> >>>Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the >>>232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras >>>the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. >>> >>>As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed >>>differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and >>>rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front >>>and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates >>>this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and >>>eventually fails. >>> >>> >>> >>>"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodig y.net... >>> >>> >>>>Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >>>> >>>> >>>>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >>>> >>>> >>>>>"petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googl egroups.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>>>>>the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>You have the NP231. >>>>> >>>>>Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get >>>>>a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. >>>> >>>> >>>> > |
Re: transfer case determination
No, the design is very similar but the cases are not quite the same.
Fair number of interchangable parts. philthy wrote: > the np 231 and the np231 share the same case?????? > > RoyJ wrote: > > >>Mechanically, the NP231 and NP231 use very similar gear cases. The NP231 >>has a planitary gear setup for high/lo range and the NP232 has a >>diferential gear in the same location. >> >>Jeff Strickland wrote: >> >> >>>Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the >>>232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras >>>the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. >>> >>>As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed >>>differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and >>>rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front >>>and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates >>>this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and >>>eventually fails. >>> >>> >>> >>>"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodig y.net... >>> >>> >>>>Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >>>> >>>> >>>>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >>>> >>>> >>>>>"petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googl egroups.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>>>>>the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>You have the NP231. >>>>> >>>>>Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get >>>>>a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. >>>> >>>> >>>> > |
Re: transfer case determination
I have the 242 and I LOVE it.
Carl "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:TrTIh.17$rj1.10@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net... >I wish I had full time 4x4. I do have the 231. > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:5QJIh.119$qe5.4@trnddc05... >> Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the >> 232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras the >> 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. >> >> As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed differences >> from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and rear axles >> travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front and rear >> axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates this >> difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and eventually >> fails. >> >> >> >> "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... >>> Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >>> >>> >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>> news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >>>> >>>> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >>>>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>>>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>>> >>>> >>>> You have the NP231. >>>> >>>> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get a >>>> good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. >>> >>> >> > > |
Re: transfer case determination
I have the 242 and I LOVE it.
Carl "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:TrTIh.17$rj1.10@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net... >I wish I had full time 4x4. I do have the 231. > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:5QJIh.119$qe5.4@trnddc05... >> Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the >> 232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras the >> 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. >> >> As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed differences >> from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and rear axles >> travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front and rear >> axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates this >> difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and eventually >> fails. >> >> >> >> "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... >>> Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >>> >>> >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>> news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >>>> >>>> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >>>>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>>>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>>> >>>> >>>> You have the NP231. >>>> >>>> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get a >>>> good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. >>> >>> >> > > |
Re: transfer case determination
I have the 242 and I LOVE it.
Carl "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:TrTIh.17$rj1.10@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net... >I wish I had full time 4x4. I do have the 231. > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:5QJIh.119$qe5.4@trnddc05... >> Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the >> 232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras the >> 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. >> >> As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed differences >> from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and rear axles >> travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front and rear >> axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates this >> difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and eventually >> fails. >> >> >> >> "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... >>> Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >>> >>> >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>> news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >>>> >>>> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >>>>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>>>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>>> >>>> >>>> You have the NP231. >>>> >>>> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get a >>>> good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. >>> >>> >> > > |
Re: transfer case determination
You meant 231 and 232, you said 231 and 231.
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message news:6rVIh.11491$Jl.2841@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net... > No, the design is very similar but the cases are not quite the same. Fair > number of interchangable parts. > > philthy wrote: >> the np 231 and the np231 share the same case?????? >> >> RoyJ wrote: >> >> >>>Mechanically, the NP231 and NP231 use very similar gear cases. The NP231 >>>has a planitary gear setup for high/lo range and the NP232 has a >>>diferential gear in the same location. >>> >>>Jeff Strickland wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the >>>>232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras >>>>the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. >>>> >>>>As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed >>>>differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and >>>>rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front >>>>and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates >>>>this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and >>>>eventually fails. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodi gy.net... >>>> >>>> >>>>>Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>>news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>"petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.goog legroups.com... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>>>>>>the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>You have the NP231. >>>>>> >>>>>>Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get >>>>>>a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> |
Re: transfer case determination
You meant 231 and 232, you said 231 and 231.
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message news:6rVIh.11491$Jl.2841@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net... > No, the design is very similar but the cases are not quite the same. Fair > number of interchangable parts. > > philthy wrote: >> the np 231 and the np231 share the same case?????? >> >> RoyJ wrote: >> >> >>>Mechanically, the NP231 and NP231 use very similar gear cases. The NP231 >>>has a planitary gear setup for high/lo range and the NP232 has a >>>diferential gear in the same location. >>> >>>Jeff Strickland wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the >>>>232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras >>>>the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. >>>> >>>>As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed >>>>differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and >>>>rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front >>>>and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates >>>>this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and >>>>eventually fails. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodi gy.net... >>>> >>>> >>>>>Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>>news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>"petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.goog legroups.com... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>>>>>>the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>You have the NP231. >>>>>> >>>>>>Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get >>>>>>a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> |
Re: transfer case determination
You meant 231 and 232, you said 231 and 231.
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message news:6rVIh.11491$Jl.2841@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net... > No, the design is very similar but the cases are not quite the same. Fair > number of interchangable parts. > > philthy wrote: >> the np 231 and the np231 share the same case?????? >> >> RoyJ wrote: >> >> >>>Mechanically, the NP231 and NP231 use very similar gear cases. The NP231 >>>has a planitary gear setup for high/lo range and the NP232 has a >>>diferential gear in the same location. >>> >>>Jeff Strickland wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that the >>>>232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras >>>>the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. >>>> >>>>As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed >>>>differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and >>>>rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the front >>>>and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential accomodates >>>>this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and >>>>eventually fails. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodi gy.net... >>>> >>>> >>>>>Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>>news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>"petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.goog legroups.com... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo with >>>>>>>the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>You have the NP231. >>>>>> >>>>>>Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get >>>>>>a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions only. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> |
Re: transfer case determination
ARGH!!!!!!
Jeff Strickland wrote: > You meant 231 and 232, you said 231 and 231. > > > > > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message > news:6rVIh.11491$Jl.2841@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net... > >> No, the design is very similar but the cases are not quite the same. >> Fair number of interchangable parts. >> >> philthy wrote: >> >>> the np 231 and the np231 share the same case?????? >>> >>> RoyJ wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Mechanically, the NP231 and NP231 use very similar gear cases. The >>>> NP231 >>>> has a planitary gear setup for high/lo range and the NP232 has a >>>> diferential gear in the same location. >>>> >>>> Jeff Strickland wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that >>>>> the >>>>> 232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras >>>>> the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. >>>>> >>>>> As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed >>>>> differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and >>>>> rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the >>>>> front >>>>> and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential >>>>> accomodates >>>>> this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and >>>>> eventually fails. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You have the NP231. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get >>>>>>> a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions >>>>>>> only. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > |
Re: transfer case determination
ARGH!!!!!!
Jeff Strickland wrote: > You meant 231 and 232, you said 231 and 231. > > > > > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message > news:6rVIh.11491$Jl.2841@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net... > >> No, the design is very similar but the cases are not quite the same. >> Fair number of interchangable parts. >> >> philthy wrote: >> >>> the np 231 and the np231 share the same case?????? >>> >>> RoyJ wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Mechanically, the NP231 and NP231 use very similar gear cases. The >>>> NP231 >>>> has a planitary gear setup for high/lo range and the NP232 has a >>>> diferential gear in the same location. >>>> >>>> Jeff Strickland wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that >>>>> the >>>>> 232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras >>>>> the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. >>>>> >>>>> As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed >>>>> differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and >>>>> rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the >>>>> front >>>>> and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential >>>>> accomodates >>>>> this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and >>>>> eventually fails. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You have the NP231. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get >>>>>>> a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions >>>>>>> only. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > |
Re: transfer case determination
ARGH!!!!!!
Jeff Strickland wrote: > You meant 231 and 232, you said 231 and 231. > > > > > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message > news:6rVIh.11491$Jl.2841@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net... > >> No, the design is very similar but the cases are not quite the same. >> Fair number of interchangable parts. >> >> philthy wrote: >> >>> the np 231 and the np231 share the same case?????? >>> >>> RoyJ wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Mechanically, the NP231 and NP231 use very similar gear cases. The >>>> NP231 >>>> has a planitary gear setup for high/lo range and the NP232 has a >>>> diferential gear in the same location. >>>> >>>> Jeff Strickland wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yes, it should be. Either that or the NP232. The difference is that >>>>> the >>>>> 232 is a Full time system with a Center Differential of sorts, wheras >>>>> the 231 is a Part Time system that has no center diff. >>>>> >>>>> As you drive, the differentials in the axles handle the speed >>>>> differences from left to right on the same axle. In 4WD, the front and >>>>> rear axles travel much different lines (arcs) and the speed of the >>>>> front >>>>> and rear axles are vastly different. The Center Differential >>>>> accomodates >>>>> this difference, without it the transfer case takes a beating and >>>>> eventually fails. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:5hIIh.14313$bb1.9348@newssvr17.news.prodigy.n et... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Would and NP231 be what I have in my 93 Cherokee? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:UNEIh.8939$mh7.1931@trnddc04... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> "petethepirate" <petethepirate197@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:1173558388.412112.15410@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> how do i tell what transfer case i have? I have a 94 ZJ laredo >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> the I6, with 2hi, 4hi, neutral, and 4lo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You have the NP231. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Never use any 4WD selection on hard surfaces where the tires can get >>>>>>> a good grip. 4WD is intended for traction challenged conditions >>>>>>> only. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > |
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