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Eric 01-03-2004 12:01 PM

Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com. I
figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
locally.

Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ Canada".
Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on mine?

Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch? They
are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new rear
bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!

Eric
99 TJ SE



Jerry Bransford 01-03-2004 12:18 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
Eric, do you offroad your TJ? If so, you won't like a bolt-on hitch since
it's guaranteed to drag on the terrain. A bumper with a built-in hitch like
Olympic's Rock bumper is not much more than a bolt-on hitch but being at
bumper height, it won't drag.

Jerry
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"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:wzCJb.7009$6l1.4624@okepread03...
> I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com.

I
> figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> locally.
>
> Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
> each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ

Canada".
> Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on mine?
>
> Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch?

They
> are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new rear
> bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




Jerry Bransford 01-03-2004 12:18 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
Eric, do you offroad your TJ? If so, you won't like a bolt-on hitch since
it's guaranteed to drag on the terrain. A bumper with a built-in hitch like
Olympic's Rock bumper is not much more than a bolt-on hitch but being at
bumper height, it won't drag.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:wzCJb.7009$6l1.4624@okepread03...
> I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com.

I
> figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> locally.
>
> Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
> each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ

Canada".
> Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on mine?
>
> Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch?

They
> are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new rear
> bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




Jerry Bransford 01-03-2004 12:18 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
Eric, do you offroad your TJ? If so, you won't like a bolt-on hitch since
it's guaranteed to drag on the terrain. A bumper with a built-in hitch like
Olympic's Rock bumper is not much more than a bolt-on hitch but being at
bumper height, it won't drag.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:wzCJb.7009$6l1.4624@okepread03...
> I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com.

I
> figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> locally.
>
> Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
> each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ

Canada".
> Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on mine?
>
> Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch?

They
> are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new rear
> bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




Roy J 01-03-2004 03:12 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
Get the integrated hitch/bumper I know you said you can't do it
anyway :<) Decent 2" receiver hitch runs US $100, bumpers with
hitch about $160 and up. But do get the 2" receiver.

If you get the hitch, make sure that the receiver goes INTO the
cross tube rather than hanging down below. Difference is about 4"
of ground clearance in the back. I had one on my other SUV, hung
up on driveway curb cuts. ARGH!

Eric wrote:

> I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com. I
> figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> locally.
>
> Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
> each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ Canada".
> Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on mine?
>
> Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch? They
> are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new rear
> bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>



Roy J 01-03-2004 03:12 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
Get the integrated hitch/bumper I know you said you can't do it
anyway :<) Decent 2" receiver hitch runs US $100, bumpers with
hitch about $160 and up. But do get the 2" receiver.

If you get the hitch, make sure that the receiver goes INTO the
cross tube rather than hanging down below. Difference is about 4"
of ground clearance in the back. I had one on my other SUV, hung
up on driveway curb cuts. ARGH!

Eric wrote:

> I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com. I
> figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> locally.
>
> Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
> each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ Canada".
> Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on mine?
>
> Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch? They
> are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new rear
> bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>



Roy J 01-03-2004 03:12 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
Get the integrated hitch/bumper I know you said you can't do it
anyway :<) Decent 2" receiver hitch runs US $100, bumpers with
hitch about $160 and up. But do get the 2" receiver.

If you get the hitch, make sure that the receiver goes INTO the
cross tube rather than hanging down below. Difference is about 4"
of ground clearance in the back. I had one on my other SUV, hung
up on driveway curb cuts. ARGH!

Eric wrote:

> I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com. I
> figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> locally.
>
> Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
> each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ Canada".
> Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on mine?
>
> Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch? They
> are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new rear
> bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>



Tim Hayes 01-03-2004 03:30 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I did this. In fact I bought a Hidden Hitch from etrailer.

I'm pleased. I wanted something cheap that would hold me over until I
decide which $500+ bumper system I'm going to buy. I go camping more
than I do extreme offroading so the low cost was worth the problems it
will give me on the trail.

I would recommend the tube hitch though. I bought the standard one
because it was like $20 cheaper. However, the tube one mounts with three
bolts to the side of the frame. The mounts on the square-tube version
are not as good. Two bolts mount to the rear cross-member which is
useless. Two more replace the bumper bolts on the bottom of the frame,
which is annoying on the exhaust side and forces the removal of the
factory rear tow hook.

Get the tube version- it has none of those problems and still mounts
through existing holes. You have to fish 6 bolts through the frame
instead of only two, but it turns out that isn't too hard because the
holes in the frame are large enough and they provide the fish wires to
do it with.

I didn't take pics of the install (it's too easy and the downloadable
install docs are really good and show everything. Check out the hitch
and the mounting locations here:

<http://wrangler.rutgers.edu/gallery/tj-hidden-hitch>

Eric wrote:
> I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com. I
> figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> locally.
>
> Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
> each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ Canada".
> Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on mine?
>
> Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch? They
> are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new rear
> bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>



Tim Hayes 01-03-2004 03:30 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I did this. In fact I bought a Hidden Hitch from etrailer.

I'm pleased. I wanted something cheap that would hold me over until I
decide which $500+ bumper system I'm going to buy. I go camping more
than I do extreme offroading so the low cost was worth the problems it
will give me on the trail.

I would recommend the tube hitch though. I bought the standard one
because it was like $20 cheaper. However, the tube one mounts with three
bolts to the side of the frame. The mounts on the square-tube version
are not as good. Two bolts mount to the rear cross-member which is
useless. Two more replace the bumper bolts on the bottom of the frame,
which is annoying on the exhaust side and forces the removal of the
factory rear tow hook.

Get the tube version- it has none of those problems and still mounts
through existing holes. You have to fish 6 bolts through the frame
instead of only two, but it turns out that isn't too hard because the
holes in the frame are large enough and they provide the fish wires to
do it with.

I didn't take pics of the install (it's too easy and the downloadable
install docs are really good and show everything. Check out the hitch
and the mounting locations here:

<http://wrangler.rutgers.edu/gallery/tj-hidden-hitch>

Eric wrote:
> I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com. I
> figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> locally.
>
> Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
> each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ Canada".
> Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on mine?
>
> Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch? They
> are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new rear
> bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>



Tim Hayes 01-03-2004 03:30 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I did this. In fact I bought a Hidden Hitch from etrailer.

I'm pleased. I wanted something cheap that would hold me over until I
decide which $500+ bumper system I'm going to buy. I go camping more
than I do extreme offroading so the low cost was worth the problems it
will give me on the trail.

I would recommend the tube hitch though. I bought the standard one
because it was like $20 cheaper. However, the tube one mounts with three
bolts to the side of the frame. The mounts on the square-tube version
are not as good. Two bolts mount to the rear cross-member which is
useless. Two more replace the bumper bolts on the bottom of the frame,
which is annoying on the exhaust side and forces the removal of the
factory rear tow hook.

Get the tube version- it has none of those problems and still mounts
through existing holes. You have to fish 6 bolts through the frame
instead of only two, but it turns out that isn't too hard because the
holes in the frame are large enough and they provide the fish wires to
do it with.

I didn't take pics of the install (it's too easy and the downloadable
install docs are really good and show everything. Check out the hitch
and the mounting locations here:

<http://wrangler.rutgers.edu/gallery/tj-hidden-hitch>

Eric wrote:
> I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com. I
> figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> locally.
>
> Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
> each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ Canada".
> Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on mine?
>
> Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch? They
> are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new rear
> bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>



Matt 01-03-2004 04:06 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I bought a draw-tite from a local dealer for $105. I put it on myself, took
about 25 minutes. I had to remove the rear tow hook, but I can always get a
receiver mounted hook.

I got the hitch only, since I'm not going to lift it until the stock tires
wear down. I don't get too crazy off road, so I don't have any hang up
problems with it. I'll get the integrated hitch when I lift it. That won't
be for a while.

I went for the class III. Way overkill for only hauling a jet-ski, but all
the decent hitch accesories are all 2". It's rated for way more than the
Jeep is safe for.

--
Matt
'03 TJ Sport
91 kawasaki 650sx
"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:wzCJb.7009$6l1.4624@okepread03...
> I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com.

I
> figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> locally.
>
> Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
> each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ

Canada".
> Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on mine?
>
> Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch?

They
> are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new rear
> bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>



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Matt 01-03-2004 04:06 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I bought a draw-tite from a local dealer for $105. I put it on myself, took
about 25 minutes. I had to remove the rear tow hook, but I can always get a
receiver mounted hook.

I got the hitch only, since I'm not going to lift it until the stock tires
wear down. I don't get too crazy off road, so I don't have any hang up
problems with it. I'll get the integrated hitch when I lift it. That won't
be for a while.

I went for the class III. Way overkill for only hauling a jet-ski, but all
the decent hitch accesories are all 2". It's rated for way more than the
Jeep is safe for.

--
Matt
'03 TJ Sport
91 kawasaki 650sx
"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:wzCJb.7009$6l1.4624@okepread03...
> I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com.

I
> figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> locally.
>
> Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
> each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ

Canada".
> Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on mine?
>
> Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch?

They
> are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new rear
> bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>



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Matt 01-03-2004 04:06 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I bought a draw-tite from a local dealer for $105. I put it on myself, took
about 25 minutes. I had to remove the rear tow hook, but I can always get a
receiver mounted hook.

I got the hitch only, since I'm not going to lift it until the stock tires
wear down. I don't get too crazy off road, so I don't have any hang up
problems with it. I'll get the integrated hitch when I lift it. That won't
be for a while.

I went for the class III. Way overkill for only hauling a jet-ski, but all
the decent hitch accesories are all 2". It's rated for way more than the
Jeep is safe for.

--
Matt
'03 TJ Sport
91 kawasaki 650sx
"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:wzCJb.7009$6l1.4624@okepread03...
> I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com.

I
> figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> locally.
>
> Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
> each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ

Canada".
> Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on mine?
>
> Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch?

They
> are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new rear
> bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>



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Eric 01-03-2004 08:17 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I haven't seen a decent integrated hitch for under $250... if you can find
me something for around $120, I'll get it!

Eric
"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:jlFJb.110$e23.65579@news.uswest.net...
> Get the integrated hitch/bumper I know you said you can't do it
> anyway :<) Decent 2" receiver hitch runs US $100, bumpers with
> hitch about $160 and up. But do get the 2" receiver.
>
> If you get the hitch, make sure that the receiver goes INTO the
> cross tube rather than hanging down below. Difference is about 4"
> of ground clearance in the back. I had one on my other SUV, hung
> up on driveway curb cuts. ARGH!
>
> Eric wrote:
>
> > I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com.

I
> > figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> > locally.
> >
> > Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
> > each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ

Canada".
> > Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on

mine?
> >
> > Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch?

They
> > are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new

rear
> > bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >

>




Eric 01-03-2004 08:17 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I haven't seen a decent integrated hitch for under $250... if you can find
me something for around $120, I'll get it!

Eric
"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:jlFJb.110$e23.65579@news.uswest.net...
> Get the integrated hitch/bumper I know you said you can't do it
> anyway :<) Decent 2" receiver hitch runs US $100, bumpers with
> hitch about $160 and up. But do get the 2" receiver.
>
> If you get the hitch, make sure that the receiver goes INTO the
> cross tube rather than hanging down below. Difference is about 4"
> of ground clearance in the back. I had one on my other SUV, hung
> up on driveway curb cuts. ARGH!
>
> Eric wrote:
>
> > I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com.

I
> > figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> > locally.
> >
> > Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
> > each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ

Canada".
> > Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on

mine?
> >
> > Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch?

They
> > are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new

rear
> > bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >

>




Eric 01-03-2004 08:17 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I haven't seen a decent integrated hitch for under $250... if you can find
me something for around $120, I'll get it!

Eric
"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:jlFJb.110$e23.65579@news.uswest.net...
> Get the integrated hitch/bumper I know you said you can't do it
> anyway :<) Decent 2" receiver hitch runs US $100, bumpers with
> hitch about $160 and up. But do get the 2" receiver.
>
> If you get the hitch, make sure that the receiver goes INTO the
> cross tube rather than hanging down below. Difference is about 4"
> of ground clearance in the back. I had one on my other SUV, hung
> up on driveway curb cuts. ARGH!
>
> Eric wrote:
>
> > I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at www.etrailer.com.

I
> > figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> > locally.
> >
> > Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars of
> > each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ

Canada".
> > Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on

mine?
> >
> > Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch?

They
> > are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new

rear
> > bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >

>




Jerry Bransford 01-03-2004 08:30 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
My Olympic Rock bumper/hitch combo was $170 or $180, can't remember exactly
which. Has a 2" receiver hitch at bumper level, not welded underneath the
bumper like many are. Quadratec's and 4Wheel Drive Hardware's catalog both
have it.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:bRJJb.2851$zf.347@okepread05...
> I haven't seen a decent integrated hitch for under $250... if you can find
> me something for around $120, I'll get it!
>
> Eric
> "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:jlFJb.110$e23.65579@news.uswest.net...
> > Get the integrated hitch/bumper I know you said you can't do it
> > anyway :<) Decent 2" receiver hitch runs US $100, bumpers with
> > hitch about $160 and up. But do get the 2" receiver.
> >
> > If you get the hitch, make sure that the receiver goes INTO the
> > cross tube rather than hanging down below. Difference is about 4"
> > of ground clearance in the back. I had one on my other SUV, hung
> > up on driveway curb cuts. ARGH!
> >
> > Eric wrote:
> >
> > > I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at

www.etrailer.com.
> I
> > > figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> > > locally.
> > >
> > > Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars

of
> > > each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ

> Canada".
> > > Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on

> mine?
> > >
> > > Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch?

> They
> > > are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new

> rear
> > > bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 99 TJ SE
> > >
> > >

> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 01-03-2004 08:30 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
My Olympic Rock bumper/hitch combo was $170 or $180, can't remember exactly
which. Has a 2" receiver hitch at bumper level, not welded underneath the
bumper like many are. Quadratec's and 4Wheel Drive Hardware's catalog both
have it.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:bRJJb.2851$zf.347@okepread05...
> I haven't seen a decent integrated hitch for under $250... if you can find
> me something for around $120, I'll get it!
>
> Eric
> "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:jlFJb.110$e23.65579@news.uswest.net...
> > Get the integrated hitch/bumper I know you said you can't do it
> > anyway :<) Decent 2" receiver hitch runs US $100, bumpers with
> > hitch about $160 and up. But do get the 2" receiver.
> >
> > If you get the hitch, make sure that the receiver goes INTO the
> > cross tube rather than hanging down below. Difference is about 4"
> > of ground clearance in the back. I had one on my other SUV, hung
> > up on driveway curb cuts. ARGH!
> >
> > Eric wrote:
> >
> > > I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at

www.etrailer.com.
> I
> > > figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> > > locally.
> > >
> > > Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars

of
> > > each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ

> Canada".
> > > Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on

> mine?
> > >
> > > Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch?

> They
> > > are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new

> rear
> > > bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 99 TJ SE
> > >
> > >

> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 01-03-2004 08:30 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
My Olympic Rock bumper/hitch combo was $170 or $180, can't remember exactly
which. Has a 2" receiver hitch at bumper level, not welded underneath the
bumper like many are. Quadratec's and 4Wheel Drive Hardware's catalog both
have it.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:bRJJb.2851$zf.347@okepread05...
> I haven't seen a decent integrated hitch for under $250... if you can find
> me something for around $120, I'll get it!
>
> Eric
> "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:jlFJb.110$e23.65579@news.uswest.net...
> > Get the integrated hitch/bumper I know you said you can't do it
> > anyway :<) Decent 2" receiver hitch runs US $100, bumpers with
> > hitch about $160 and up. But do get the 2" receiver.
> >
> > If you get the hitch, make sure that the receiver goes INTO the
> > cross tube rather than hanging down below. Difference is about 4"
> > of ground clearance in the back. I had one on my other SUV, hung
> > up on driveway curb cuts. ARGH!
> >
> > Eric wrote:
> >
> > > I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at

www.etrailer.com.
> I
> > > figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying someone
> > > locally.
> > >
> > > Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few dollars

of
> > > each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ

> Canada".
> > > Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on

> mine?
> > >
> > > Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden Hitch?

> They
> > > are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new

> rear
> > > bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 99 TJ SE
> > >
> > >

> >

>
>




Eric 01-04-2004 01:09 AM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
Found one for $179 (50" version), but says you shouldn't tow with it. (So
why have the hitch built in?!?).

Eric
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:z0KJb.37343$gN.25216@fed1read05...
> My Olympic Rock bumper/hitch combo was $170 or $180, can't remember

exactly
> which. Has a 2" receiver hitch at bumper level, not welded underneath the
> bumper like many are. Quadratec's and 4Wheel Drive Hardware's catalog

both
> have it.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:bRJJb.2851$zf.347@okepread05...
> > I haven't seen a decent integrated hitch for under $250... if you can

find
> > me something for around $120, I'll get it!
> >
> > Eric
> > "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:jlFJb.110$e23.65579@news.uswest.net...
> > > Get the integrated hitch/bumper I know you said you can't do it
> > > anyway :<) Decent 2" receiver hitch runs US $100, bumpers with
> > > hitch about $160 and up. But do get the 2" receiver.
> > >
> > > If you get the hitch, make sure that the receiver goes INTO the
> > > cross tube rather than hanging down below. Difference is about 4"
> > > of ground clearance in the back. I had one on my other SUV, hung
> > > up on driveway curb cuts. ARGH!
> > >
> > > Eric wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at

> www.etrailer.com.
> > I
> > > > figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying

someone
> > > > locally.
> > > >
> > > > Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few

dollars
> of
> > > > each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ

> > Canada".
> > > > Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on

> > mine?
> > > >
> > > > Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden

Hitch?
> > They
> > > > are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new

> > rear
> > > > bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > >
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Eric 01-04-2004 01:09 AM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
Found one for $179 (50" version), but says you shouldn't tow with it. (So
why have the hitch built in?!?).

Eric
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:z0KJb.37343$gN.25216@fed1read05...
> My Olympic Rock bumper/hitch combo was $170 or $180, can't remember

exactly
> which. Has a 2" receiver hitch at bumper level, not welded underneath the
> bumper like many are. Quadratec's and 4Wheel Drive Hardware's catalog

both
> have it.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:bRJJb.2851$zf.347@okepread05...
> > I haven't seen a decent integrated hitch for under $250... if you can

find
> > me something for around $120, I'll get it!
> >
> > Eric
> > "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:jlFJb.110$e23.65579@news.uswest.net...
> > > Get the integrated hitch/bumper I know you said you can't do it
> > > anyway :<) Decent 2" receiver hitch runs US $100, bumpers with
> > > hitch about $160 and up. But do get the 2" receiver.
> > >
> > > If you get the hitch, make sure that the receiver goes INTO the
> > > cross tube rather than hanging down below. Difference is about 4"
> > > of ground clearance in the back. I had one on my other SUV, hung
> > > up on driveway curb cuts. ARGH!
> > >
> > > Eric wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at

> www.etrailer.com.
> > I
> > > > figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying

someone
> > > > locally.
> > > >
> > > > Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few

dollars
> of
> > > > each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ

> > Canada".
> > > > Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on

> > mine?
> > > >
> > > > Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden

Hitch?
> > They
> > > > are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new

> > rear
> > > > bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > >
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Eric 01-04-2004 01:09 AM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
Found one for $179 (50" version), but says you shouldn't tow with it. (So
why have the hitch built in?!?).

Eric
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:z0KJb.37343$gN.25216@fed1read05...
> My Olympic Rock bumper/hitch combo was $170 or $180, can't remember

exactly
> which. Has a 2" receiver hitch at bumper level, not welded underneath the
> bumper like many are. Quadratec's and 4Wheel Drive Hardware's catalog

both
> have it.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:bRJJb.2851$zf.347@okepread05...
> > I haven't seen a decent integrated hitch for under $250... if you can

find
> > me something for around $120, I'll get it!
> >
> > Eric
> > "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:jlFJb.110$e23.65579@news.uswest.net...
> > > Get the integrated hitch/bumper I know you said you can't do it
> > > anyway :<) Decent 2" receiver hitch runs US $100, bumpers with
> > > hitch about $160 and up. But do get the 2" receiver.
> > >
> > > If you get the hitch, make sure that the receiver goes INTO the
> > > cross tube rather than hanging down below. Difference is about 4"
> > > of ground clearance in the back. I had one on my other SUV, hung
> > > up on driveway curb cuts. ARGH!
> > >
> > > Eric wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at

> www.etrailer.com.
> > I
> > > > figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying

someone
> > > > locally.
> > > >
> > > > Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few

dollars
> of
> > > > each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep TJ

> > Canada".
> > > > Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit on

> > mine?
> > > >
> > > > Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden

Hitch?
> > They
> > > > are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a new

> > rear
> > > > bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > >
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 01-04-2004 01:59 AM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
Eric, it was rated to tow the Wrangler's 2,000 max weight towing limit until
the lawyers made them nervous. It's fine for towing, that's what it was
designed for. I use my f/r Olympic receiver hitches all the time, and even
use them to push/pull my 4,000 lb. boat around my property.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:U6OJb.3186$zf.1501@okepread05...
> Found one for $179 (50" version), but says you shouldn't tow with it. (So
> why have the hitch built in?!?).
>
> Eric
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:z0KJb.37343$gN.25216@fed1read05...
> > My Olympic Rock bumper/hitch combo was $170 or $180, can't remember

> exactly
> > which. Has a 2" receiver hitch at bumper level, not welded underneath

the
> > bumper like many are. Quadratec's and 4Wheel Drive Hardware's catalog

> both
> > have it.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:bRJJb.2851$zf.347@okepread05...
> > > I haven't seen a decent integrated hitch for under $250... if you can

> find
> > > me something for around $120, I'll get it!
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > > news:jlFJb.110$e23.65579@news.uswest.net...
> > > > Get the integrated hitch/bumper I know you said you can't do it
> > > > anyway :<) Decent 2" receiver hitch runs US $100, bumpers with
> > > > hitch about $160 and up. But do get the 2" receiver.
> > > >
> > > > If you get the hitch, make sure that the receiver goes INTO the
> > > > cross tube rather than hanging down below. Difference is about 4"
> > > > of ground clearance in the back. I had one on my other SUV, hung
> > > > up on driveway curb cuts. ARGH!
> > > >
> > > > Eric wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at

> > www.etrailer.com.
> > > I
> > > > > figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying

> someone
> > > > > locally.
> > > > >
> > > > > Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few

> dollars
> > of
> > > > > each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep

TJ
> > > Canada".
> > > > > Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit

on
> > > mine?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden

> Hitch?
> > > They
> > > > > are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a

new
> > > rear
> > > > > bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric
> > > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 01-04-2004 01:59 AM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
Eric, it was rated to tow the Wrangler's 2,000 max weight towing limit until
the lawyers made them nervous. It's fine for towing, that's what it was
designed for. I use my f/r Olympic receiver hitches all the time, and even
use them to push/pull my 4,000 lb. boat around my property.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:U6OJb.3186$zf.1501@okepread05...
> Found one for $179 (50" version), but says you shouldn't tow with it. (So
> why have the hitch built in?!?).
>
> Eric
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:z0KJb.37343$gN.25216@fed1read05...
> > My Olympic Rock bumper/hitch combo was $170 or $180, can't remember

> exactly
> > which. Has a 2" receiver hitch at bumper level, not welded underneath

the
> > bumper like many are. Quadratec's and 4Wheel Drive Hardware's catalog

> both
> > have it.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:bRJJb.2851$zf.347@okepread05...
> > > I haven't seen a decent integrated hitch for under $250... if you can

> find
> > > me something for around $120, I'll get it!
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > > news:jlFJb.110$e23.65579@news.uswest.net...
> > > > Get the integrated hitch/bumper I know you said you can't do it
> > > > anyway :<) Decent 2" receiver hitch runs US $100, bumpers with
> > > > hitch about $160 and up. But do get the 2" receiver.
> > > >
> > > > If you get the hitch, make sure that the receiver goes INTO the
> > > > cross tube rather than hanging down below. Difference is about 4"
> > > > of ground clearance in the back. I had one on my other SUV, hung
> > > > up on driveway curb cuts. ARGH!
> > > >
> > > > Eric wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at

> > www.etrailer.com.
> > > I
> > > > > figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying

> someone
> > > > > locally.
> > > > >
> > > > > Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few

> dollars
> > of
> > > > > each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep

TJ
> > > Canada".
> > > > > Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit

on
> > > mine?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden

> Hitch?
> > > They
> > > > > are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a

new
> > > rear
> > > > > bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric
> > > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 01-04-2004 01:59 AM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
Eric, it was rated to tow the Wrangler's 2,000 max weight towing limit until
the lawyers made them nervous. It's fine for towing, that's what it was
designed for. I use my f/r Olympic receiver hitches all the time, and even
use them to push/pull my 4,000 lb. boat around my property.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:U6OJb.3186$zf.1501@okepread05...
> Found one for $179 (50" version), but says you shouldn't tow with it. (So
> why have the hitch built in?!?).
>
> Eric
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:z0KJb.37343$gN.25216@fed1read05...
> > My Olympic Rock bumper/hitch combo was $170 or $180, can't remember

> exactly
> > which. Has a 2" receiver hitch at bumper level, not welded underneath

the
> > bumper like many are. Quadratec's and 4Wheel Drive Hardware's catalog

> both
> > have it.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:bRJJb.2851$zf.347@okepread05...
> > > I haven't seen a decent integrated hitch for under $250... if you can

> find
> > > me something for around $120, I'll get it!
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > > news:jlFJb.110$e23.65579@news.uswest.net...
> > > > Get the integrated hitch/bumper I know you said you can't do it
> > > > anyway :<) Decent 2" receiver hitch runs US $100, bumpers with
> > > > hitch about $160 and up. But do get the 2" receiver.
> > > >
> > > > If you get the hitch, make sure that the receiver goes INTO the
> > > > cross tube rather than hanging down below. Difference is about 4"
> > > > of ground clearance in the back. I had one on my other SUV, hung
> > > > up on driveway curb cuts. ARGH!
> > > >
> > > > Eric wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am buying a hitch for my 99 TJ SE and took a look at

> > www.etrailer.com.
> > > I
> > > > > figured installing one myself would be WAY cheaper than paying

> someone
> > > > > locally.
> > > > >
> > > > > Turns out, there are a few different styles, all within a few

> dollars
> > of
> > > > > each other. The only difference is, most of them say "Fits Jeep

TJ
> > > Canada".
> > > > > Is there something different about TJs in Canada? Will those fit

on
> > > mine?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, anyone have any preferences between Draw-Tite and Hidden

> Hitch?
> > > They
> > > > > are about the same price. Round tube or square tube? And no, a

new
> > > rear
> > > > > bumper with integrated hitch isn't an option right now. Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric
> > > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Del Rawlins 01-04-2004 04:01 AM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
On 03 Jan 2004 09:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> Eric, it was rated to tow the Wrangler's 2,000 max weight towing limit
> until the lawyers made them nervous. It's fine for towing, that's
> what it was designed for. I use my f/r Olympic receiver hitches all
> the time, and even use them to push/pull my 4,000 lb. boat around my
> property.


I can say with certainty from personal experience that it will tow more
than you have any business towing with a Wrangler. Olympic's lawyers
most likely realized that Jeep's 2000 pound limit is a true max limit
with little safety margin, and decided that the best course of action
from a liability standpoint was to disown towing altogether.

Damn near swallowed the seat cushion on two separate occasions, with two
different TJs, pulling the same overloaded trailer using Olympic bumpers (
I don't do that anymore). If the road conditions had been anything
other than dry pavement either time I would have been toast.

----------------------------------------------------
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Del Rawlins 01-04-2004 04:01 AM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
On 03 Jan 2004 09:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> Eric, it was rated to tow the Wrangler's 2,000 max weight towing limit
> until the lawyers made them nervous. It's fine for towing, that's
> what it was designed for. I use my f/r Olympic receiver hitches all
> the time, and even use them to push/pull my 4,000 lb. boat around my
> property.


I can say with certainty from personal experience that it will tow more
than you have any business towing with a Wrangler. Olympic's lawyers
most likely realized that Jeep's 2000 pound limit is a true max limit
with little safety margin, and decided that the best course of action
from a liability standpoint was to disown towing altogether.

Damn near swallowed the seat cushion on two separate occasions, with two
different TJs, pulling the same overloaded trailer using Olympic bumpers (
I don't do that anymore). If the road conditions had been anything
other than dry pavement either time I would have been toast.

----------------------------------------------------
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Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
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Del Rawlins 01-04-2004 04:01 AM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
On 03 Jan 2004 09:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> Eric, it was rated to tow the Wrangler's 2,000 max weight towing limit
> until the lawyers made them nervous. It's fine for towing, that's
> what it was designed for. I use my f/r Olympic receiver hitches all
> the time, and even use them to push/pull my 4,000 lb. boat around my
> property.


I can say with certainty from personal experience that it will tow more
than you have any business towing with a Wrangler. Olympic's lawyers
most likely realized that Jeep's 2000 pound limit is a true max limit
with little safety margin, and decided that the best course of action
from a liability standpoint was to disown towing altogether.

Damn near swallowed the seat cushion on two separate occasions, with two
different TJs, pulling the same overloaded trailer using Olympic bumpers (
I don't do that anymore). If the road conditions had been anything
other than dry pavement either time I would have been toast.

----------------------------------------------------
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Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
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Eric 01-04-2004 11:29 AM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I could only find pics of the 57" bumper and really like how it fits to the
rear. I'm not sure the 50" would look so good. I didn't realize I was
looking at a pic for the 57" on a page for the 50"...

If I had the extra $$, I'd just buy that, but as it stands, I can get a
hitch at U-Hell for $170 installed...

I'll probably take it off in a year or so and sell it when I get some money
to upgrade my bumper. I'm going to want an integrated tire carrier too
since I'll probably be up to 33's. :-)

Eric
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040104000118664-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> On 03 Jan 2004 09:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> > Eric, it was rated to tow the Wrangler's 2,000 max weight towing limit
> > until the lawyers made them nervous. It's fine for towing, that's
> > what it was designed for. I use my f/r Olympic receiver hitches all
> > the time, and even use them to push/pull my 4,000 lb. boat around my
> > property.

>
> I can say with certainty from personal experience that it will tow more
> than you have any business towing with a Wrangler. Olympic's lawyers
> most likely realized that Jeep's 2000 pound limit is a true max limit
> with little safety margin, and decided that the best course of action
> from a liability standpoint was to disown towing altogether.
>
> Damn near swallowed the seat cushion on two separate occasions, with two
> different TJs, pulling the same overloaded trailer using Olympic bumpers (
> I don't do that anymore). If the road conditions had been anything
> other than dry pavement either time I would have been toast.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/




Eric 01-04-2004 11:29 AM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I could only find pics of the 57" bumper and really like how it fits to the
rear. I'm not sure the 50" would look so good. I didn't realize I was
looking at a pic for the 57" on a page for the 50"...

If I had the extra $$, I'd just buy that, but as it stands, I can get a
hitch at U-Hell for $170 installed...

I'll probably take it off in a year or so and sell it when I get some money
to upgrade my bumper. I'm going to want an integrated tire carrier too
since I'll probably be up to 33's. :-)

Eric
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040104000118664-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> On 03 Jan 2004 09:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> > Eric, it was rated to tow the Wrangler's 2,000 max weight towing limit
> > until the lawyers made them nervous. It's fine for towing, that's
> > what it was designed for. I use my f/r Olympic receiver hitches all
> > the time, and even use them to push/pull my 4,000 lb. boat around my
> > property.

>
> I can say with certainty from personal experience that it will tow more
> than you have any business towing with a Wrangler. Olympic's lawyers
> most likely realized that Jeep's 2000 pound limit is a true max limit
> with little safety margin, and decided that the best course of action
> from a liability standpoint was to disown towing altogether.
>
> Damn near swallowed the seat cushion on two separate occasions, with two
> different TJs, pulling the same overloaded trailer using Olympic bumpers (
> I don't do that anymore). If the road conditions had been anything
> other than dry pavement either time I would have been toast.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/




Eric 01-04-2004 11:29 AM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I could only find pics of the 57" bumper and really like how it fits to the
rear. I'm not sure the 50" would look so good. I didn't realize I was
looking at a pic for the 57" on a page for the 50"...

If I had the extra $$, I'd just buy that, but as it stands, I can get a
hitch at U-Hell for $170 installed...

I'll probably take it off in a year or so and sell it when I get some money
to upgrade my bumper. I'm going to want an integrated tire carrier too
since I'll probably be up to 33's. :-)

Eric
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040104000118664-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> On 03 Jan 2004 09:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> > Eric, it was rated to tow the Wrangler's 2,000 max weight towing limit
> > until the lawyers made them nervous. It's fine for towing, that's
> > what it was designed for. I use my f/r Olympic receiver hitches all
> > the time, and even use them to push/pull my 4,000 lb. boat around my
> > property.

>
> I can say with certainty from personal experience that it will tow more
> than you have any business towing with a Wrangler. Olympic's lawyers
> most likely realized that Jeep's 2000 pound limit is a true max limit
> with little safety margin, and decided that the best course of action
> from a liability standpoint was to disown towing altogether.
>
> Damn near swallowed the seat cushion on two separate occasions, with two
> different TJs, pulling the same overloaded trailer using Olympic bumpers (
> I don't do that anymore). If the road conditions had been anything
> other than dry pavement either time I would have been toast.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/




Jerry Bransford 01-04-2004 11:38 AM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:qbXJb.3917$zf.3178@okepread05...
> I could only find pics of the 57" bumper and really like how it fits to

the
> rear. I'm not sure the 50" would look so good. I didn't realize I was
> looking at a pic for the 57" on a page for the 50"...
>
> If I had the extra $$, I'd just buy that, but as it stands, I can get a
> hitch at U-Hell for $170 installed...
>
> I'll probably take it off in a year or so and sell it when I get some

money
> to upgrade my bumper. I'm going to want an integrated tire carrier too
> since I'll probably be up to 33's. :-)


Go to my webpage and you'll see that you can run both the $180 Olympic
bumper and an aftermarket tire carrier that is both better and stronger than
a tire carrier that is integrated with the bumper.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/



Jerry Bransford 01-04-2004 11:38 AM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:qbXJb.3917$zf.3178@okepread05...
> I could only find pics of the 57" bumper and really like how it fits to

the
> rear. I'm not sure the 50" would look so good. I didn't realize I was
> looking at a pic for the 57" on a page for the 50"...
>
> If I had the extra $$, I'd just buy that, but as it stands, I can get a
> hitch at U-Hell for $170 installed...
>
> I'll probably take it off in a year or so and sell it when I get some

money
> to upgrade my bumper. I'm going to want an integrated tire carrier too
> since I'll probably be up to 33's. :-)


Go to my webpage and you'll see that you can run both the $180 Olympic
bumper and an aftermarket tire carrier that is both better and stronger than
a tire carrier that is integrated with the bumper.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/



Jerry Bransford 01-04-2004 11:38 AM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:qbXJb.3917$zf.3178@okepread05...
> I could only find pics of the 57" bumper and really like how it fits to

the
> rear. I'm not sure the 50" would look so good. I didn't realize I was
> looking at a pic for the 57" on a page for the 50"...
>
> If I had the extra $$, I'd just buy that, but as it stands, I can get a
> hitch at U-Hell for $170 installed...
>
> I'll probably take it off in a year or so and sell it when I get some

money
> to upgrade my bumper. I'm going to want an integrated tire carrier too
> since I'll probably be up to 33's. :-)


Go to my webpage and you'll see that you can run both the $180 Olympic
bumper and an aftermarket tire carrier that is both better and stronger than
a tire carrier that is integrated with the bumper.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/



Ichabod Shagnasti 01-04-2004 12:17 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
It just bolts right to the existing holes for the OEM one. Mine took about
an hour to remove the old and install the new, but most of that was because
I did it alone and it was difficult to hold it up and bolt it in at the same
time.

I highly recommend it. I have the 57" as it goes all the way to the edges
of the Jeep on the sides to give some protection to the rear corners. Since
it's angled towards the edges, it still has quite a bit of clearance there
(although from the posts, it doesn't sound like that's too big of a deal for
your use).

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:qbXJb.3917$zf.3178@okepread05...
> I could only find pics of the 57" bumper and really like how it fits to

the
> rear. I'm not sure the 50" would look so good. I didn't realize I was
> looking at a pic for the 57" on a page for the 50"...
>
> If I had the extra $$, I'd just buy that, but as it stands, I can get a
> hitch at U-Hell for $170 installed...
>
> I'll probably take it off in a year or so and sell it when I get some

money
> to upgrade my bumper. I'm going to want an integrated tire carrier too
> since I'll probably be up to 33's. :-)
>
> Eric
> "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:20040104000118664-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > On 03 Jan 2004 09:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> > > Eric, it was rated to tow the Wrangler's 2,000 max weight towing limit
> > > until the lawyers made them nervous. It's fine for towing, that's
> > > what it was designed for. I use my f/r Olympic receiver hitches all
> > > the time, and even use them to push/pull my 4,000 lb. boat around my
> > > property.

> >
> > I can say with certainty from personal experience that it will tow more
> > than you have any business towing with a Wrangler. Olympic's lawyers
> > most likely realized that Jeep's 2000 pound limit is a true max limit
> > with little safety margin, and decided that the best course of action
> > from a liability standpoint was to disown towing altogether.
> >
> > Damn near swallowed the seat cushion on two separate occasions, with two
> > different TJs, pulling the same overloaded trailer using Olympic bumpers

(
> > I don't do that anymore). If the road conditions had been anything
> > other than dry pavement either time I would have been toast.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/

>
>




Ichabod Shagnasti 01-04-2004 12:17 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
It just bolts right to the existing holes for the OEM one. Mine took about
an hour to remove the old and install the new, but most of that was because
I did it alone and it was difficult to hold it up and bolt it in at the same
time.

I highly recommend it. I have the 57" as it goes all the way to the edges
of the Jeep on the sides to give some protection to the rear corners. Since
it's angled towards the edges, it still has quite a bit of clearance there
(although from the posts, it doesn't sound like that's too big of a deal for
your use).

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:qbXJb.3917$zf.3178@okepread05...
> I could only find pics of the 57" bumper and really like how it fits to

the
> rear. I'm not sure the 50" would look so good. I didn't realize I was
> looking at a pic for the 57" on a page for the 50"...
>
> If I had the extra $$, I'd just buy that, but as it stands, I can get a
> hitch at U-Hell for $170 installed...
>
> I'll probably take it off in a year or so and sell it when I get some

money
> to upgrade my bumper. I'm going to want an integrated tire carrier too
> since I'll probably be up to 33's. :-)
>
> Eric
> "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:20040104000118664-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > On 03 Jan 2004 09:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> > > Eric, it was rated to tow the Wrangler's 2,000 max weight towing limit
> > > until the lawyers made them nervous. It's fine for towing, that's
> > > what it was designed for. I use my f/r Olympic receiver hitches all
> > > the time, and even use them to push/pull my 4,000 lb. boat around my
> > > property.

> >
> > I can say with certainty from personal experience that it will tow more
> > than you have any business towing with a Wrangler. Olympic's lawyers
> > most likely realized that Jeep's 2000 pound limit is a true max limit
> > with little safety margin, and decided that the best course of action
> > from a liability standpoint was to disown towing altogether.
> >
> > Damn near swallowed the seat cushion on two separate occasions, with two
> > different TJs, pulling the same overloaded trailer using Olympic bumpers

(
> > I don't do that anymore). If the road conditions had been anything
> > other than dry pavement either time I would have been toast.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/

>
>




Ichabod Shagnasti 01-04-2004 12:17 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
It just bolts right to the existing holes for the OEM one. Mine took about
an hour to remove the old and install the new, but most of that was because
I did it alone and it was difficult to hold it up and bolt it in at the same
time.

I highly recommend it. I have the 57" as it goes all the way to the edges
of the Jeep on the sides to give some protection to the rear corners. Since
it's angled towards the edges, it still has quite a bit of clearance there
(although from the posts, it doesn't sound like that's too big of a deal for
your use).

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:qbXJb.3917$zf.3178@okepread05...
> I could only find pics of the 57" bumper and really like how it fits to

the
> rear. I'm not sure the 50" would look so good. I didn't realize I was
> looking at a pic for the 57" on a page for the 50"...
>
> If I had the extra $$, I'd just buy that, but as it stands, I can get a
> hitch at U-Hell for $170 installed...
>
> I'll probably take it off in a year or so and sell it when I get some

money
> to upgrade my bumper. I'm going to want an integrated tire carrier too
> since I'll probably be up to 33's. :-)
>
> Eric
> "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:20040104000118664-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > On 03 Jan 2004 09:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> > > Eric, it was rated to tow the Wrangler's 2,000 max weight towing limit
> > > until the lawyers made them nervous. It's fine for towing, that's
> > > what it was designed for. I use my f/r Olympic receiver hitches all
> > > the time, and even use them to push/pull my 4,000 lb. boat around my
> > > property.

> >
> > I can say with certainty from personal experience that it will tow more
> > than you have any business towing with a Wrangler. Olympic's lawyers
> > most likely realized that Jeep's 2000 pound limit is a true max limit
> > with little safety margin, and decided that the best course of action
> > from a liability standpoint was to disown towing altogether.
> >
> > Damn near swallowed the seat cushion on two separate occasions, with two
> > different TJs, pulling the same overloaded trailer using Olympic bumpers

(
> > I don't do that anymore). If the road conditions had been anything
> > other than dry pavement either time I would have been toast.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/

>
>




Eric 01-04-2004 02:10 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I do spend time on the trails.. usually once a month in the
spring/summer/fall timeframe. I don't think I can shell out the extra dough
right now for the 57", so I'll just end up waiting.

No one did answer my original question -- what is the difference, if any,
between Canadian and US TJs that would make them need different hitches?!?

Thanks guys.

Eric
"Ichabod Shagnasti" <murfysflaw@nospamhere.com> wrote in message
news:SUXJb.598$ZQ5.277749906@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> It just bolts right to the existing holes for the OEM one. Mine took

about
> an hour to remove the old and install the new, but most of that was

because
> I did it alone and it was difficult to hold it up and bolt it in at the

same
> time.
>
> I highly recommend it. I have the 57" as it goes all the way to the edges
> of the Jeep on the sides to give some protection to the rear corners.

Since
> it's angled towards the edges, it still has quite a bit of clearance there
> (although from the posts, it doesn't sound like that's too big of a deal

for
> your use).
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:qbXJb.3917$zf.3178@okepread05...
> > I could only find pics of the 57" bumper and really like how it fits to

> the
> > rear. I'm not sure the 50" would look so good. I didn't realize I was
> > looking at a pic for the 57" on a page for the 50"...
> >
> > If I had the extra $$, I'd just buy that, but as it stands, I can get a
> > hitch at U-Hell for $170 installed...
> >
> > I'll probably take it off in a year or so and sell it when I get some

> money
> > to upgrade my bumper. I'm going to want an integrated tire carrier too
> > since I'll probably be up to 33's. :-)
> >
> > Eric
> > "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> > news:20040104000118664-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > > On 03 Jan 2004 09:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> > > > Eric, it was rated to tow the Wrangler's 2,000 max weight towing

limit
> > > > until the lawyers made them nervous. It's fine for towing, that's
> > > > what it was designed for. I use my f/r Olympic receiver hitches all
> > > > the time, and even use them to push/pull my 4,000 lb. boat around my
> > > > property.
> > >
> > > I can say with certainty from personal experience that it will tow

more
> > > than you have any business towing with a Wrangler. Olympic's lawyers
> > > most likely realized that Jeep's 2000 pound limit is a true max limit
> > > with little safety margin, and decided that the best course of action
> > > from a liability standpoint was to disown towing altogether.
> > >
> > > Damn near swallowed the seat cushion on two separate occasions, with

two
> > > different TJs, pulling the same overloaded trailer using Olympic

bumpers
> (
> > > I don't do that anymore). If the road conditions had been anything
> > > other than dry pavement either time I would have been toast.
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/

> >
> >

>
>




Eric 01-04-2004 02:10 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I do spend time on the trails.. usually once a month in the
spring/summer/fall timeframe. I don't think I can shell out the extra dough
right now for the 57", so I'll just end up waiting.

No one did answer my original question -- what is the difference, if any,
between Canadian and US TJs that would make them need different hitches?!?

Thanks guys.

Eric
"Ichabod Shagnasti" <murfysflaw@nospamhere.com> wrote in message
news:SUXJb.598$ZQ5.277749906@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> It just bolts right to the existing holes for the OEM one. Mine took

about
> an hour to remove the old and install the new, but most of that was

because
> I did it alone and it was difficult to hold it up and bolt it in at the

same
> time.
>
> I highly recommend it. I have the 57" as it goes all the way to the edges
> of the Jeep on the sides to give some protection to the rear corners.

Since
> it's angled towards the edges, it still has quite a bit of clearance there
> (although from the posts, it doesn't sound like that's too big of a deal

for
> your use).
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:qbXJb.3917$zf.3178@okepread05...
> > I could only find pics of the 57" bumper and really like how it fits to

> the
> > rear. I'm not sure the 50" would look so good. I didn't realize I was
> > looking at a pic for the 57" on a page for the 50"...
> >
> > If I had the extra $$, I'd just buy that, but as it stands, I can get a
> > hitch at U-Hell for $170 installed...
> >
> > I'll probably take it off in a year or so and sell it when I get some

> money
> > to upgrade my bumper. I'm going to want an integrated tire carrier too
> > since I'll probably be up to 33's. :-)
> >
> > Eric
> > "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> > news:20040104000118664-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > > On 03 Jan 2004 09:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> > > > Eric, it was rated to tow the Wrangler's 2,000 max weight towing

limit
> > > > until the lawyers made them nervous. It's fine for towing, that's
> > > > what it was designed for. I use my f/r Olympic receiver hitches all
> > > > the time, and even use them to push/pull my 4,000 lb. boat around my
> > > > property.
> > >
> > > I can say with certainty from personal experience that it will tow

more
> > > than you have any business towing with a Wrangler. Olympic's lawyers
> > > most likely realized that Jeep's 2000 pound limit is a true max limit
> > > with little safety margin, and decided that the best course of action
> > > from a liability standpoint was to disown towing altogether.
> > >
> > > Damn near swallowed the seat cushion on two separate occasions, with

two
> > > different TJs, pulling the same overloaded trailer using Olympic

bumpers
> (
> > > I don't do that anymore). If the road conditions had been anything
> > > other than dry pavement either time I would have been toast.
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/

> >
> >

>
>




Eric 01-04-2004 02:10 PM

Re: Trailer hitch for TJ?
 
I do spend time on the trails.. usually once a month in the
spring/summer/fall timeframe. I don't think I can shell out the extra dough
right now for the 57", so I'll just end up waiting.

No one did answer my original question -- what is the difference, if any,
between Canadian and US TJs that would make them need different hitches?!?

Thanks guys.

Eric
"Ichabod Shagnasti" <murfysflaw@nospamhere.com> wrote in message
news:SUXJb.598$ZQ5.277749906@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> It just bolts right to the existing holes for the OEM one. Mine took

about
> an hour to remove the old and install the new, but most of that was

because
> I did it alone and it was difficult to hold it up and bolt it in at the

same
> time.
>
> I highly recommend it. I have the 57" as it goes all the way to the edges
> of the Jeep on the sides to give some protection to the rear corners.

Since
> it's angled towards the edges, it still has quite a bit of clearance there
> (although from the posts, it doesn't sound like that's too big of a deal

for
> your use).
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:qbXJb.3917$zf.3178@okepread05...
> > I could only find pics of the 57" bumper and really like how it fits to

> the
> > rear. I'm not sure the 50" would look so good. I didn't realize I was
> > looking at a pic for the 57" on a page for the 50"...
> >
> > If I had the extra $$, I'd just buy that, but as it stands, I can get a
> > hitch at U-Hell for $170 installed...
> >
> > I'll probably take it off in a year or so and sell it when I get some

> money
> > to upgrade my bumper. I'm going to want an integrated tire carrier too
> > since I'll probably be up to 33's. :-)
> >
> > Eric
> > "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> > news:20040104000118664-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > > On 03 Jan 2004 09:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> > > > Eric, it was rated to tow the Wrangler's 2,000 max weight towing

limit
> > > > until the lawyers made them nervous. It's fine for towing, that's
> > > > what it was designed for. I use my f/r Olympic receiver hitches all
> > > > the time, and even use them to push/pull my 4,000 lb. boat around my
> > > > property.
> > >
> > > I can say with certainty from personal experience that it will tow

more
> > > than you have any business towing with a Wrangler. Olympic's lawyers
> > > most likely realized that Jeep's 2000 pound limit is a true max limit
> > > with little safety margin, and decided that the best course of action
> > > from a liability standpoint was to disown towing altogether.
> > >
> > > Damn near swallowed the seat cushion on two separate occasions, with

two
> > > different TJs, pulling the same overloaded trailer using Olympic

bumpers
> (
> > > I don't do that anymore). If the road conditions had been anything
> > > other than dry pavement either time I would have been toast.
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/

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