Re: Trail(er) trash and Nature Nazis
 

Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> The Nazi's were the "National Socialist German Workers Party", which is
> hardly far right!
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>

Ah, another "student of history". The Nazis were a fascist organization.
You can't get much further to the right than that. Don't let the use of
the word Socialist fool you. They were no more Socialist than any
Peoples Democratic Republic is Democratic. If you don't understand the
terms used in the debate look them up. I suggest Google or even a good
dictionary. :-)
Oh yes, one more thing. Stop cross posting.


--
FRH

Re: Trail(er) trash
 

It has been my experience that it's the hikers that liter their
candy rappers and toilet paper. No four wheelers I've known will litter.
We carry it in, and we carry it out, and then some.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"R. Lander" wrote:
>
> The "respect" for nature shown by offroad enthusiasts is documented by
> all the cans, bottles and wrappers they toss on scenic trails. The
> Rubicon near Lake Tahoe shows how these anthropocentric mouth-breathers
> view the land. They can't be bothered carrying a trash bag and packing
> it out. No room in the Jeep or some other excuse.
>
> People with a conquer-nature mentality have little respect for its
> sanctity. The show stealer is their fancy machinery, not the land.
> Nature is just another place to make noise and whoop it up. It's hard
> to prove, but the number of offroad litterers is probably at least 25%.
> It goes beyond a few rotten apples making the rest look bad.
>
> It's very simple: people who bash environmentalism don't respect the
> environment that much. They talk of "extremism" but effective
> protection will always seem extreme to those who want land UNprotected.
> Environmental problems are people problems and more people create more
> impact. Population can't continue without stealing more land. That's
> the crux of all these conflicts. It's not about shadowy entities trying
> to block your rights, it's more people fighting over less acreage.
>
> In the lower 48 states, there's no real frontier left. We don't need
> more machines, noise and trail(er) trash invading the last wild, quiet
> places. Be happy with all the trails you've got. If you find those
> trails overcrowded, blame human overbreeding, not environmentalism.
>
> R. Lander

Re: Trail(er) trash
 

It has been my experience that it's the hikers that liter their
candy rappers and toilet paper. No four wheelers I've known will litter.
We carry it in, and we carry it out, and then some.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"R. Lander" wrote:
>
> The "respect" for nature shown by offroad enthusiasts is documented by
> all the cans, bottles and wrappers they toss on scenic trails. The
> Rubicon near Lake Tahoe shows how these anthropocentric mouth-breathers
> view the land. They can't be bothered carrying a trash bag and packing
> it out. No room in the Jeep or some other excuse.
>
> People with a conquer-nature mentality have little respect for its
> sanctity. The show stealer is their fancy machinery, not the land.
> Nature is just another place to make noise and whoop it up. It's hard
> to prove, but the number of offroad litterers is probably at least 25%.
> It goes beyond a few rotten apples making the rest look bad.
>
> It's very simple: people who bash environmentalism don't respect the
> environment that much. They talk of "extremism" but effective
> protection will always seem extreme to those who want land UNprotected.
> Environmental problems are people problems and more people create more
> impact. Population can't continue without stealing more land. That's
> the crux of all these conflicts. It's not about shadowy entities trying
> to block your rights, it's more people fighting over less acreage.
>
> In the lower 48 states, there's no real frontier left. We don't need
> more machines, noise and trail(er) trash invading the last wild, quiet
> places. Be happy with all the trails you've got. If you find those
> trails overcrowded, blame human overbreeding, not environmentalism.
>
> R. Lander

Re: Trail(er) trash
 

It has been my experience that it's the hikers that liter their
candy rappers and toilet paper. No four wheelers I've known will litter.
We carry it in, and we carry it out, and then some.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"R. Lander" wrote:
>
> The "respect" for nature shown by offroad enthusiasts is documented by
> all the cans, bottles and wrappers they toss on scenic trails. The
> Rubicon near Lake Tahoe shows how these anthropocentric mouth-breathers
> view the land. They can't be bothered carrying a trash bag and packing
> it out. No room in the Jeep or some other excuse.
>
> People with a conquer-nature mentality have little respect for its
> sanctity. The show stealer is their fancy machinery, not the land.
> Nature is just another place to make noise and whoop it up. It's hard
> to prove, but the number of offroad litterers is probably at least 25%.
> It goes beyond a few rotten apples making the rest look bad.
>
> It's very simple: people who bash environmentalism don't respect the
> environment that much. They talk of "extremism" but effective
> protection will always seem extreme to those who want land UNprotected.
> Environmental problems are people problems and more people create more
> impact. Population can't continue without stealing more land. That's
> the crux of all these conflicts. It's not about shadowy entities trying
> to block your rights, it's more people fighting over less acreage.
>
> In the lower 48 states, there's no real frontier left. We don't need
> more machines, noise and trail(er) trash invading the last wild, quiet
> places. Be happy with all the trails you've got. If you find those
> trails overcrowded, blame human overbreeding, not environmentalism.
>
> R. Lander

Re: Trail(er) trash
 

> Not a bad troll....
>

Not a good one, too many stereotypes, too long, and no "citations of
evidence".
I give it a 3.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

Re: Trail(er) trash
 

> Not a bad troll....
>

Not a good one, too many stereotypes, too long, and no "citations of
evidence".
I give it a 3.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

Re: Trail(er) trash
 

> Not a bad troll....
>

Not a good one, too many stereotypes, too long, and no "citations of
evidence".
I give it a 3.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

Re: Trail(er) trash
 

You know, I used to think I knew a lot about people who enjoy motorized
outdoor activities...just like you know a lot about 'em. Then I actually
met a few...

Re: Trail(er) trash
 

You know, I used to think I knew a lot about people who enjoy motorized
outdoor activities...just like you know a lot about 'em. Then I actually
met a few...

Re: Trail(er) trash
 

You know, I used to think I knew a lot about people who enjoy motorized
outdoor activities...just like you know a lot about 'em. Then I actually
met a few...