If you insist on renting, use a friend's pick-up, go home and hook it to the
jeep get an open topped box, from Ryder.
Better off, buy a kit trailer, 2 spare tires, pack the weight low and tarp
it well.
Best yet, don't come to california, too many people, fires, earthquakes,
leftist politicians,etc.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

 

If you insist on renting, use a friend's pick-up, go home and hook it to the
jeep get an open topped box, from Ryder.
Better off, buy a kit trailer, 2 spare tires, pack the weight low and tarp
it well.
Best yet, don't come to california, too many people, fires, earthquakes,
leftist politicians,etc.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

 

If you insist on renting, use a friend's pick-up, go home and hook it to the
jeep get an open topped box, from Ryder.
Better off, buy a kit trailer, 2 spare tires, pack the weight low and tarp
it well.
Best yet, don't come to california, too many people, fires, earthquakes,
leftist politicians,etc.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

 

You know, I never gave that cg shift any thought but it sure makes
sense when you look at it. Add "pack the heavy stuff low" to the
check list.

The issue with the short trailer is that it is a bitch to back as well
as being a lot looser under weigh. The short arm on the lever makes
the whole thing go faster if it does start to wag - small excursions
become a more severe problem just due to the angular displacement due
to the short radius.

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:50:05 UTC Roy <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:

> The wheelbase is not the issue, you need to have at least 10% of
> the weight on the tongue. In this case you should be looking at a
> couple hundred pounds or so. If you don't grunt when you hook it
> up, its not heavy enough.
>
> You can get another effect if the load is top heavy like a lathe
> or vertical mill. If you go up hill, the center of gravity is so
> high that it shifts back quite a ways. Back to wagging again.
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:48:14 UTC "ScriptLizard"
> > <yeahright@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hiya, folks...
> >>
> >>I'm moving from Florida to California in January. I don't have all that much
> >>stuff to take with me, just enough to barely fill a small U-Haul trailer.
> >>The only problem is, upon researching trailer pricing, U-Haul won't rent a
> >>trailer when the towing vehicle has a soft top, which my 2000 Wrangler has.
> >>They said something about safety hazards. I'm still researching that crap.
> >>
> >>Anyway, does anyone here know of another place that rents trailers for
> >>one-way travel? or maybe why U-Haul is giving me this crap over the soft
> >>top? They suggested that I rent a truck AND a trailer to tow my Jeep which
> >>seems somewhat reversely ironic I suppose, but the that quadruples the cost
> >>of just renting the trailer.
> >>
> >>Anyway... any thoughts, my fellow Jeepers?
> >
> >
> > I've seen a few SWB Jeeps pulling those small U-Hauls down the highway
> > and "tail wagging the dog" immediately comes to mind. Saw one coming
> > back from Denver last week and I'm not sure how he kept from rolling
> > the whole thing up in a ball when the trailer started weaving - I
> > stood one the brakes and had all 4 wheels squalling figuring I was
> > going to 1) have to miss him somehow and 2) he was gonna need some
> > help real soon. Those trailers have too short a tongue and you have
> > too little wheelbase to be any fun at all.
> >
>


--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

 

You know, I never gave that cg shift any thought but it sure makes
sense when you look at it. Add "pack the heavy stuff low" to the
check list.

The issue with the short trailer is that it is a bitch to back as well
as being a lot looser under weigh. The short arm on the lever makes
the whole thing go faster if it does start to wag - small excursions
become a more severe problem just due to the angular displacement due
to the short radius.

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:50:05 UTC Roy <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:

> The wheelbase is not the issue, you need to have at least 10% of
> the weight on the tongue. In this case you should be looking at a
> couple hundred pounds or so. If you don't grunt when you hook it
> up, its not heavy enough.
>
> You can get another effect if the load is top heavy like a lathe
> or vertical mill. If you go up hill, the center of gravity is so
> high that it shifts back quite a ways. Back to wagging again.
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:48:14 UTC "ScriptLizard"
> > <yeahright@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hiya, folks...
> >>
> >>I'm moving from Florida to California in January. I don't have all that much
> >>stuff to take with me, just enough to barely fill a small U-Haul trailer.
> >>The only problem is, upon researching trailer pricing, U-Haul won't rent a
> >>trailer when the towing vehicle has a soft top, which my 2000 Wrangler has.
> >>They said something about safety hazards. I'm still researching that crap.
> >>
> >>Anyway, does anyone here know of another place that rents trailers for
> >>one-way travel? or maybe why U-Haul is giving me this crap over the soft
> >>top? They suggested that I rent a truck AND a trailer to tow my Jeep which
> >>seems somewhat reversely ironic I suppose, but the that quadruples the cost
> >>of just renting the trailer.
> >>
> >>Anyway... any thoughts, my fellow Jeepers?
> >
> >
> > I've seen a few SWB Jeeps pulling those small U-Hauls down the highway
> > and "tail wagging the dog" immediately comes to mind. Saw one coming
> > back from Denver last week and I'm not sure how he kept from rolling
> > the whole thing up in a ball when the trailer started weaving - I
> > stood one the brakes and had all 4 wheels squalling figuring I was
> > going to 1) have to miss him somehow and 2) he was gonna need some
> > help real soon. Those trailers have too short a tongue and you have
> > too little wheelbase to be any fun at all.
> >
>


--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

 

You know, I never gave that cg shift any thought but it sure makes
sense when you look at it. Add "pack the heavy stuff low" to the
check list.

The issue with the short trailer is that it is a bitch to back as well
as being a lot looser under weigh. The short arm on the lever makes
the whole thing go faster if it does start to wag - small excursions
become a more severe problem just due to the angular displacement due
to the short radius.

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:50:05 UTC Roy <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:

> The wheelbase is not the issue, you need to have at least 10% of
> the weight on the tongue. In this case you should be looking at a
> couple hundred pounds or so. If you don't grunt when you hook it
> up, its not heavy enough.
>
> You can get another effect if the load is top heavy like a lathe
> or vertical mill. If you go up hill, the center of gravity is so
> high that it shifts back quite a ways. Back to wagging again.
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:48:14 UTC "ScriptLizard"
> > <yeahright@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hiya, folks...
> >>
> >>I'm moving from Florida to California in January. I don't have all that much
> >>stuff to take with me, just enough to barely fill a small U-Haul trailer.
> >>The only problem is, upon researching trailer pricing, U-Haul won't rent a
> >>trailer when the towing vehicle has a soft top, which my 2000 Wrangler has.
> >>They said something about safety hazards. I'm still researching that crap.
> >>
> >>Anyway, does anyone here know of another place that rents trailers for
> >>one-way travel? or maybe why U-Haul is giving me this crap over the soft
> >>top? They suggested that I rent a truck AND a trailer to tow my Jeep which
> >>seems somewhat reversely ironic I suppose, but the that quadruples the cost
> >>of just renting the trailer.
> >>
> >>Anyway... any thoughts, my fellow Jeepers?
> >
> >
> > I've seen a few SWB Jeeps pulling those small U-Hauls down the highway
> > and "tail wagging the dog" immediately comes to mind. Saw one coming
> > back from Denver last week and I'm not sure how he kept from rolling
> > the whole thing up in a ball when the trailer started weaving - I
> > stood one the brakes and had all 4 wheels squalling figuring I was
> > going to 1) have to miss him somehow and 2) he was gonna need some
> > help real soon. Those trailers have too short a tongue and you have
> > too little wheelbase to be any fun at all.
> >
>


--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

 

> The reasoning, from what I can fathom, is that a hard top offers more
> protection to the driver if something should happen to the trailer - there's
> something solid surrounding the driver, as opposed to just a rollbar and some
> canvas and plastic.


Ridiculous. The hardtop is for protection from the elements only and
doesn't do beans for restraining passengers inside or protecting you
in an accident. The owner's manual has specific words to this effect,
and if memory serves, there is also a warning label on the hard top
that reminds the unwary of this.

 

> The reasoning, from what I can fathom, is that a hard top offers more
> protection to the driver if something should happen to the trailer - there's
> something solid surrounding the driver, as opposed to just a rollbar and some
> canvas and plastic.


Ridiculous. The hardtop is for protection from the elements only and
doesn't do beans for restraining passengers inside or protecting you
in an accident. The owner's manual has specific words to this effect,
and if memory serves, there is also a warning label on the hard top
that reminds the unwary of this.

 

> The reasoning, from what I can fathom, is that a hard top offers more
> protection to the driver if something should happen to the trailer - there's
> something solid surrounding the driver, as opposed to just a rollbar and some
> canvas and plastic.


Ridiculous. The hardtop is for protection from the elements only and
doesn't do beans for restraining passengers inside or protecting you
in an accident. The owner's manual has specific words to this effect,
and if memory serves, there is also a warning label on the hard top
that reminds the unwary of this.

 

Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> > The reasoning, from what I can fathom, is that a hard top offers more
> > protection to the driver if something should happen to the trailer - there's
> > something solid surrounding the driver, as opposed to just a rollbar and some
> > canvas and plastic.
>
> Ridiculous. The hardtop is for protection from the elements only and
> doesn't do beans for restraining passengers inside or protecting you
> in an accident. The owner's manual has specific words to this effect,
> and if memory serves, there is also a warning label on the hard top
> that reminds the unwary of this.

Carbon monoxide poisoning is my guess.

A trailer causes the exhaust to vortex behind the vehicle.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's