Dave Milne

Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.

Dave

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Brett wrote:
> > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but
not
> > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
pull
> > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> >
> > thanks,
> > brett
>
>
> I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> transmission and not burn the clutch out....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Dave Milne

Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.

Dave

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> Brett wrote:
> > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but
not
> > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
pull
> > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> >
> > thanks,
> > brett
>
>
> I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> transmission and not burn the clutch out....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Dave Milne

Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.

Dave

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> Brett wrote:
> > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but
not
> > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
pull
> > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> >
> > thanks,
> > brett
>
>
> I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> transmission and not burn the clutch out....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Earle Horton

That would be a standard transmission? High speed evasive maneuvers are
going to be problematical with a short wheelbase vehicle and a two ton
trailer, brakes or no. Last night a whole family decided to cross an unlit
section of highway in front of me, 55 mph speed limit, all dressed in black
except for shoes. There must have been six of them. Christ. Over here we
have people suddenly change lanes or apply the brakes for no reason,
irregardless of who or what is following them.

I think you could pull the trailer, but getting it around these types is
going to be a problem.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
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> Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.
>
> Dave
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > Brett wrote:
> > > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but
> not
> > > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
> pull
> > > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > brett
> >
> >
> > I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> > transmission and not burn the clutch out....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>

Earle Horton

That would be a standard transmission? High speed evasive maneuvers are
going to be problematical with a short wheelbase vehicle and a two ton
trailer, brakes or no. Last night a whole family decided to cross an unlit
section of highway in front of me, 55 mph speed limit, all dressed in black
except for shoes. There must have been six of them. Christ. Over here we
have people suddenly change lanes or apply the brakes for no reason,
irregardless of who or what is following them.

I think you could pull the trailer, but getting it around these types is
going to be a problem.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:lygGh.28022$1E3.22853@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.
>
> Dave
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > Brett wrote:
> > > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but
> not
> > > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
> pull
> > > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > brett
> >
> >
> > I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> > transmission and not burn the clutch out....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>

Earle Horton

That would be a standard transmission? High speed evasive maneuvers are
going to be problematical with a short wheelbase vehicle and a two ton
trailer, brakes or no. Last night a whole family decided to cross an unlit
section of highway in front of me, 55 mph speed limit, all dressed in black
except for shoes. There must have been six of them. Christ. Over here we
have people suddenly change lanes or apply the brakes for no reason,
irregardless of who or what is following them.

I think you could pull the trailer, but getting it around these types is
going to be a problem.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:lygGh.28022$1E3.22853@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.
>
> Dave
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > Brett wrote:
> > > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but
> not
> > > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
> pull
> > > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > brett
> >
> >
> > I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> > transmission and not burn the clutch out....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>

Dave Milne

Yes, thats with the manual. I would not tow 2 tons in a Wrangler at 55 mph
for the reasons you describe, but it is technically rated for it.
Might do it if I was going around town at 30mph I guess, but basically I
bought the longer wheelbase and stronger axled Disco 2 for towing.

Dave

"Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45e9a6d3$0$26603$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> That would be a standard transmission? High speed evasive maneuvers are
> going to be problematical with a short wheelbase vehicle and a two ton
> trailer, brakes or no. Last night a whole family decided to cross an
unlit
> section of highway in front of me, 55 mph speed limit, all dressed in
black
> except for shoes. There must have been six of them. Christ. Over here
we
> have people suddenly change lanes or apply the brakes for no reason,
> irregardless of who or what is following them.
>
> I think you could pull the trailer, but getting it around these types is
> going to be a problem.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:lygGh.28022$1E3.22853@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > > Brett wrote:
> > > > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500
but
> > not
> > > > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like
to
> > pull
> > > > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > brett
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> > > transmission and not burn the clutch out....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Milne

Yes, thats with the manual. I would not tow 2 tons in a Wrangler at 55 mph
for the reasons you describe, but it is technically rated for it.
Might do it if I was going around town at 30mph I guess, but basically I
bought the longer wheelbase and stronger axled Disco 2 for towing.

Dave

"Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45e9a6d3$0$26603$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> That would be a standard transmission? High speed evasive maneuvers are
> going to be problematical with a short wheelbase vehicle and a two ton
> trailer, brakes or no. Last night a whole family decided to cross an
unlit
> section of highway in front of me, 55 mph speed limit, all dressed in
black
> except for shoes. There must have been six of them. Christ. Over here
we
> have people suddenly change lanes or apply the brakes for no reason,
> irregardless of who or what is following them.
>
> I think you could pull the trailer, but getting it around these types is
> going to be a problem.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:lygGh.28022$1E3.22853@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > > Brett wrote:
> > > > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500
but
> > not
> > > > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like
to
> > pull
> > > > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > brett
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> > > transmission and not burn the clutch out....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Milne

Yes, thats with the manual. I would not tow 2 tons in a Wrangler at 55 mph
for the reasons you describe, but it is technically rated for it.
Might do it if I was going around town at 30mph I guess, but basically I
bought the longer wheelbase and stronger axled Disco 2 for towing.

Dave

"Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45e9a6d3$0$26603$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> That would be a standard transmission? High speed evasive maneuvers are
> going to be problematical with a short wheelbase vehicle and a two ton
> trailer, brakes or no. Last night a whole family decided to cross an
unlit
> section of highway in front of me, 55 mph speed limit, all dressed in
black
> except for shoes. There must have been six of them. Christ. Over here
we
> have people suddenly change lanes or apply the brakes for no reason,
> irregardless of who or what is following them.
>
> I think you could pull the trailer, but getting it around these types is
> going to be a problem.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:lygGh.28022$1E3.22853@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > > Brett wrote:
> > > > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500
but
> > not
> > > > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like
to
> > pull
> > > > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > brett
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> > > transmission and not burn the clutch out....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> >
>
>

Don Hamilton

"Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
> pull
> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>
> thanks,
> brett

I have a 2005 Rubi Unlimited with automatic and tried to just put one of the
basket type carriers in the receiver hitch. With just a 100 quart Igloo
cooler and a couple of small logs (for my camp fire). My Unlimited headlight
were star gazing. My guess would be 250 lbs tongue weight at most. I do not
think it will pull if there is tongue weight over 100 my guess. The extra
space behind the wheels plus the tongue extension just creates too much
leverage.
My experience last week. Don