Jeff Strickland

You're welcome. Drive safe ...

I don't know the difference in price between the dolloy and a trailer, but I
think I'd be more comfortable with the trailer. For one thing, the dolly is
a royal bitch to back up, indeed I think it is impossible because it will
jack knife. When I was dragging my Jeep to the desert, I flat towed, and on
the few occasions I needed to back up, I had to have my daugher hold the
steering wheel straight, and even then I could only back up a couple of
feet, just enough to give room in front of the mo'home to clear whatever was
there. The dolly has a pivot point that will make the unit jack knife even
if you have somebody to hold the steering wheel for you.

I don't know if the trailer would be a cheaper pull in terms of rolling
resistance and that sort of thing ...

Anyhow, have a nice drive and keep the greasy side down.





"Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message
news:JvKdnT5x0qYUQv_bnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thanks Jeff, et. al. Looks like I will disconnect rear shaft.
>
> Trip is from Seattle to San Antonio (approx 2300 miles)
> Towing my Jeep on a U-Haull dolly behind a Jeep Grand Cherokee. With gas
> at $3.00 + a gallon, it will make for a pricey trip. Oh well.
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hik8i.958$Uy4.124@trndny09...
>>
>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message
>> news:iMOdneBIWf62APzbnZ2dnUVZ_tCtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Thanks folks.
>>> Just out of curiousity; If I were to leave the drive shaft connected and
>>> leave the tranny in gear and the transfer case in nuetral, why do I need
>>> to start the engine every couple hundred miles? It seems to me if the
>>> drive shaft is spinning, so are the gears inside the transfer case and
>>> Tranny. I
>>
>>
>>
>> Because the output shaft of the tcase is above the oil level, so it spins
>> dry unless the transmission is providing input -- which it isn't doing
>> while being towed on a dolly. When the tcase is set to N, the output
>> shaft is disconnected right where it enters the tcase from the rear end.
>> The tcase internals are at rest in this condition, causing the bearing on
>> the output shaft to be dry.
>>
>> The Front Driveshaft is below the oil level, so one could surmise that if
>> the front hubs were locked and the Jeep was being flat-towed, then the
>> front tires would drive the front driveshaft which would drive the
>> internals of the tcase which would throw oil onto the output shaft
>> connected to the rear wheels, and thereby keep the bearing we are worried
>> about bathed in oil. But, you are using a tow dolly, so this doesn't
>> apply to you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> dont get it.
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:K2X7i.18$443.8@trnddc05...
>>>> You should disconnect the driveshaft at the rear diff and suspend it
>>>> with some rope or bungee cords.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, you want to secure the the shaft so it will not fall out,
>>>> but it is okay to leave it connected to the tcase.
>>>>
>>>> The problem you have with leaving it connected is that you have to stop
>>>> periodically and allow the motor to run so that the tcase spins and
>>>> throws oil onto the Output Shaft Bearing. This bearing will dry out and
>>>> suffer damage, but you can avoid all the fuss by disconnecting the
>>>> driveshaft.
>>>>
>>>> And, you do not want the tranny in Neutal, you want the tcase in
>>>> Neutral. The tranny should remain engaged in 1st or Reverse.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:ndydnUtoCqfj6sLbnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>>I am towing my 1986 Jeep CJ-7 on a U-Haul tow dolly (front wheels off
>>>>>the ground, rear wheels on the ground) I think I have a T-176 manual
>>>>>tranny. Do I need to disconnect the rear drive-shaft or can I just put
>>>>>the tranny in nuetral and tow it. Any suggestions will be helpful.
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

twaldron

The biggest benefit to a real trailer would be trailer brakes.

tw

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> You're welcome. Drive safe ...
>
> I don't know the difference in price between the dolloy and a trailer,
> but I think I'd be more comfortable with the trailer. For one thing, the
> dolly is a royal bitch to back up, indeed I think it is impossible
> because it will jack knife. When I was dragging my Jeep to the desert, I
> flat towed, and on the few occasions I needed to back up, I had to have
> my daugher hold the steering wheel straight, and even then I could only
> back up a couple of feet, just enough to give room in front of the
> mo'home to clear whatever was there. The dolly has a pivot point that
> will make the unit jack knife even if you have somebody to hold the
> steering wheel for you.
>
> I don't know if the trailer would be a cheaper pull in terms of rolling
> resistance and that sort of thing ...
>
> Anyhow, have a nice drive and keep the greasy side down.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message
> news:JvKdnT5x0qYUQv_bnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>> Thanks Jeff, et. al. Looks like I will disconnect rear shaft.
>>
>> Trip is from Seattle to San Antonio (approx 2300 miles)
>> Towing my Jeep on a U-Haull dolly behind a Jeep Grand Cherokee. With
>> gas at $3.00 + a gallon, it will make for a pricey trip. Oh well.
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:hik8i.958$Uy4.124@trndny09...
>>
>>>
>>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message
>>> news:iMOdneBIWf62APzbnZ2dnUVZ_tCtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>
>>>> Thanks folks.
>>>> Just out of curiousity; If I were to leave the drive shaft connected
>>>> and leave the tranny in gear and the transfer case in nuetral, why
>>>> do I need to start the engine every couple hundred miles? It seems
>>>> to me if the drive shaft is spinning, so are the gears inside the
>>>> transfer case and Tranny. I
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Because the output shaft of the tcase is above the oil level, so it
>>> spins dry unless the transmission is providing input -- which it
>>> isn't doing while being towed on a dolly. When the tcase is set to N,
>>> the output shaft is disconnected right where it enters the tcase from
>>> the rear end. The tcase internals are at rest in this condition,
>>> causing the bearing on the output shaft to be dry.
>>>
>>> The Front Driveshaft is below the oil level, so one could surmise
>>> that if the front hubs were locked and the Jeep was being flat-towed,
>>> then the front tires would drive the front driveshaft which would
>>> drive the internals of the tcase which would throw oil onto the
>>> output shaft connected to the rear wheels, and thereby keep the
>>> bearing we are worried about bathed in oil. But, you are using a tow
>>> dolly, so this doesn't apply to you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> dont get it.
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:K2X7i.18$443.8@trnddc05...
>>>>
>>>>> You should disconnect the driveshaft at the rear diff and suspend
>>>>> it with some rope or bungee cords.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously, you want to secure the the shaft so it will not fall
>>>>> out, but it is okay to leave it connected to the tcase.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem you have with leaving it connected is that you have to
>>>>> stop periodically and allow the motor to run so that the tcase
>>>>> spins and throws oil onto the Output Shaft Bearing. This bearing
>>>>> will dry out and suffer damage, but you can avoid all the fuss by
>>>>> disconnecting the driveshaft.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, you do not want the tranny in Neutal, you want the tcase in
>>>>> Neutral. The tranny should remain engaged in 1st or Reverse.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ndydnUtoCqfj6sLbnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am towing my 1986 Jeep CJ-7 on a U-Haul tow dolly (front wheels
>>>>>> off the ground, rear wheels on the ground) I think I have a T-176
>>>>>> manual tranny. Do I need to disconnect the rear drive-shaft or can
>>>>>> I just put the tranny in nuetral and tow it. Any suggestions will
>>>>>> be helpful. Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


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twaldron

The biggest benefit to a real trailer would be trailer brakes.

tw

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> You're welcome. Drive safe ...
>
> I don't know the difference in price between the dolloy and a trailer,
> but I think I'd be more comfortable with the trailer. For one thing, the
> dolly is a royal bitch to back up, indeed I think it is impossible
> because it will jack knife. When I was dragging my Jeep to the desert, I
> flat towed, and on the few occasions I needed to back up, I had to have
> my daugher hold the steering wheel straight, and even then I could only
> back up a couple of feet, just enough to give room in front of the
> mo'home to clear whatever was there. The dolly has a pivot point that
> will make the unit jack knife even if you have somebody to hold the
> steering wheel for you.
>
> I don't know if the trailer would be a cheaper pull in terms of rolling
> resistance and that sort of thing ...
>
> Anyhow, have a nice drive and keep the greasy side down.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message
> news:JvKdnT5x0qYUQv_bnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>> Thanks Jeff, et. al. Looks like I will disconnect rear shaft.
>>
>> Trip is from Seattle to San Antonio (approx 2300 miles)
>> Towing my Jeep on a U-Haull dolly behind a Jeep Grand Cherokee. With
>> gas at $3.00 + a gallon, it will make for a pricey trip. Oh well.
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:hik8i.958$Uy4.124@trndny09...
>>
>>>
>>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message
>>> news:iMOdneBIWf62APzbnZ2dnUVZ_tCtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>
>>>> Thanks folks.
>>>> Just out of curiousity; If I were to leave the drive shaft connected
>>>> and leave the tranny in gear and the transfer case in nuetral, why
>>>> do I need to start the engine every couple hundred miles? It seems
>>>> to me if the drive shaft is spinning, so are the gears inside the
>>>> transfer case and Tranny. I
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Because the output shaft of the tcase is above the oil level, so it
>>> spins dry unless the transmission is providing input -- which it
>>> isn't doing while being towed on a dolly. When the tcase is set to N,
>>> the output shaft is disconnected right where it enters the tcase from
>>> the rear end. The tcase internals are at rest in this condition,
>>> causing the bearing on the output shaft to be dry.
>>>
>>> The Front Driveshaft is below the oil level, so one could surmise
>>> that if the front hubs were locked and the Jeep was being flat-towed,
>>> then the front tires would drive the front driveshaft which would
>>> drive the internals of the tcase which would throw oil onto the
>>> output shaft connected to the rear wheels, and thereby keep the
>>> bearing we are worried about bathed in oil. But, you are using a tow
>>> dolly, so this doesn't apply to you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> dont get it.
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:K2X7i.18$443.8@trnddc05...
>>>>
>>>>> You should disconnect the driveshaft at the rear diff and suspend
>>>>> it with some rope or bungee cords.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously, you want to secure the the shaft so it will not fall
>>>>> out, but it is okay to leave it connected to the tcase.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem you have with leaving it connected is that you have to
>>>>> stop periodically and allow the motor to run so that the tcase
>>>>> spins and throws oil onto the Output Shaft Bearing. This bearing
>>>>> will dry out and suffer damage, but you can avoid all the fuss by
>>>>> disconnecting the driveshaft.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, you do not want the tranny in Neutal, you want the tcase in
>>>>> Neutral. The tranny should remain engaged in 1st or Reverse.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ndydnUtoCqfj6sLbnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am towing my 1986 Jeep CJ-7 on a U-Haul tow dolly (front wheels
>>>>>> off the ground, rear wheels on the ground) I think I have a T-176
>>>>>> manual tranny. Do I need to disconnect the rear drive-shaft or can
>>>>>> I just put the tranny in nuetral and tow it. Any suggestions will
>>>>>> be helpful. Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


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twaldron

The biggest benefit to a real trailer would be trailer brakes.

tw

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> You're welcome. Drive safe ...
>
> I don't know the difference in price between the dolloy and a trailer,
> but I think I'd be more comfortable with the trailer. For one thing, the
> dolly is a royal bitch to back up, indeed I think it is impossible
> because it will jack knife. When I was dragging my Jeep to the desert, I
> flat towed, and on the few occasions I needed to back up, I had to have
> my daugher hold the steering wheel straight, and even then I could only
> back up a couple of feet, just enough to give room in front of the
> mo'home to clear whatever was there. The dolly has a pivot point that
> will make the unit jack knife even if you have somebody to hold the
> steering wheel for you.
>
> I don't know if the trailer would be a cheaper pull in terms of rolling
> resistance and that sort of thing ...
>
> Anyhow, have a nice drive and keep the greasy side down.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message
> news:JvKdnT5x0qYUQv_bnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>> Thanks Jeff, et. al. Looks like I will disconnect rear shaft.
>>
>> Trip is from Seattle to San Antonio (approx 2300 miles)
>> Towing my Jeep on a U-Haull dolly behind a Jeep Grand Cherokee. With
>> gas at $3.00 + a gallon, it will make for a pricey trip. Oh well.
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:hik8i.958$Uy4.124@trndny09...
>>
>>>
>>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message
>>> news:iMOdneBIWf62APzbnZ2dnUVZ_tCtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>
>>>> Thanks folks.
>>>> Just out of curiousity; If I were to leave the drive shaft connected
>>>> and leave the tranny in gear and the transfer case in nuetral, why
>>>> do I need to start the engine every couple hundred miles? It seems
>>>> to me if the drive shaft is spinning, so are the gears inside the
>>>> transfer case and Tranny. I
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Because the output shaft of the tcase is above the oil level, so it
>>> spins dry unless the transmission is providing input -- which it
>>> isn't doing while being towed on a dolly. When the tcase is set to N,
>>> the output shaft is disconnected right where it enters the tcase from
>>> the rear end. The tcase internals are at rest in this condition,
>>> causing the bearing on the output shaft to be dry.
>>>
>>> The Front Driveshaft is below the oil level, so one could surmise
>>> that if the front hubs were locked and the Jeep was being flat-towed,
>>> then the front tires would drive the front driveshaft which would
>>> drive the internals of the tcase which would throw oil onto the
>>> output shaft connected to the rear wheels, and thereby keep the
>>> bearing we are worried about bathed in oil. But, you are using a tow
>>> dolly, so this doesn't apply to you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> dont get it.
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:K2X7i.18$443.8@trnddc05...
>>>>
>>>>> You should disconnect the driveshaft at the rear diff and suspend
>>>>> it with some rope or bungee cords.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously, you want to secure the the shaft so it will not fall
>>>>> out, but it is okay to leave it connected to the tcase.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem you have with leaving it connected is that you have to
>>>>> stop periodically and allow the motor to run so that the tcase
>>>>> spins and throws oil onto the Output Shaft Bearing. This bearing
>>>>> will dry out and suffer damage, but you can avoid all the fuss by
>>>>> disconnecting the driveshaft.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, you do not want the tranny in Neutal, you want the tcase in
>>>>> Neutral. The tranny should remain engaged in 1st or Reverse.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ndydnUtoCqfj6sLbnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am towing my 1986 Jeep CJ-7 on a U-Haul tow dolly (front wheels
>>>>>> off the ground, rear wheels on the ground) I think I have a T-176
>>>>>> manual tranny. Do I need to disconnect the rear drive-shaft or can
>>>>>> I just put the tranny in nuetral and tow it. Any suggestions will
>>>>>> be helpful. Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


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twaldron

The biggest benefit to a real trailer would be trailer brakes.

tw

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> You're welcome. Drive safe ...
>
> I don't know the difference in price between the dolloy and a trailer,
> but I think I'd be more comfortable with the trailer. For one thing, the
> dolly is a royal bitch to back up, indeed I think it is impossible
> because it will jack knife. When I was dragging my Jeep to the desert, I
> flat towed, and on the few occasions I needed to back up, I had to have
> my daugher hold the steering wheel straight, and even then I could only
> back up a couple of feet, just enough to give room in front of the
> mo'home to clear whatever was there. The dolly has a pivot point that
> will make the unit jack knife even if you have somebody to hold the
> steering wheel for you.
>
> I don't know if the trailer would be a cheaper pull in terms of rolling
> resistance and that sort of thing ...
>
> Anyhow, have a nice drive and keep the greasy side down.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message
> news:JvKdnT5x0qYUQv_bnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>> Thanks Jeff, et. al. Looks like I will disconnect rear shaft.
>>
>> Trip is from Seattle to San Antonio (approx 2300 miles)
>> Towing my Jeep on a U-Haull dolly behind a Jeep Grand Cherokee. With
>> gas at $3.00 + a gallon, it will make for a pricey trip. Oh well.
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:hik8i.958$Uy4.124@trndny09...
>>
>>>
>>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message
>>> news:iMOdneBIWf62APzbnZ2dnUVZ_tCtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>
>>>> Thanks folks.
>>>> Just out of curiousity; If I were to leave the drive shaft connected
>>>> and leave the tranny in gear and the transfer case in nuetral, why
>>>> do I need to start the engine every couple hundred miles? It seems
>>>> to me if the drive shaft is spinning, so are the gears inside the
>>>> transfer case and Tranny. I
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Because the output shaft of the tcase is above the oil level, so it
>>> spins dry unless the transmission is providing input -- which it
>>> isn't doing while being towed on a dolly. When the tcase is set to N,
>>> the output shaft is disconnected right where it enters the tcase from
>>> the rear end. The tcase internals are at rest in this condition,
>>> causing the bearing on the output shaft to be dry.
>>>
>>> The Front Driveshaft is below the oil level, so one could surmise
>>> that if the front hubs were locked and the Jeep was being flat-towed,
>>> then the front tires would drive the front driveshaft which would
>>> drive the internals of the tcase which would throw oil onto the
>>> output shaft connected to the rear wheels, and thereby keep the
>>> bearing we are worried about bathed in oil. But, you are using a tow
>>> dolly, so this doesn't apply to you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> dont get it.
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:K2X7i.18$443.8@trnddc05...
>>>>
>>>>> You should disconnect the driveshaft at the rear diff and suspend
>>>>> it with some rope or bungee cords.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously, you want to secure the the shaft so it will not fall
>>>>> out, but it is okay to leave it connected to the tcase.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem you have with leaving it connected is that you have to
>>>>> stop periodically and allow the motor to run so that the tcase
>>>>> spins and throws oil onto the Output Shaft Bearing. This bearing
>>>>> will dry out and suffer damage, but you can avoid all the fuss by
>>>>> disconnecting the driveshaft.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, you do not want the tranny in Neutal, you want the tcase in
>>>>> Neutral. The tranny should remain engaged in 1st or Reverse.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ndydnUtoCqfj6sLbnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am towing my 1986 Jeep CJ-7 on a U-Haul tow dolly (front wheels
>>>>>> off the ground, rear wheels on the ground) I think I have a T-176
>>>>>> manual tranny. Do I need to disconnect the rear drive-shaft or can
>>>>>> I just put the tranny in nuetral and tow it. Any suggestions will
>>>>>> be helpful. Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


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