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Re: Towing my CJ-7 across country
You're welcome. Drive safe ...
I don't know the difference in price between the dolloy and a trailer, but I think I'd be more comfortable with the trailer. For one thing, the dolly is a royal bitch to back up, indeed I think it is impossible because it will jack knife. When I was dragging my Jeep to the desert, I flat towed, and on the few occasions I needed to back up, I had to have my daugher hold the steering wheel straight, and even then I could only back up a couple of feet, just enough to give room in front of the mo'home to clear whatever was there. The dolly has a pivot point that will make the unit jack knife even if you have somebody to hold the steering wheel for you. I don't know if the trailer would be a cheaper pull in terms of rolling resistance and that sort of thing ... Anyhow, have a nice drive and keep the greasy side down. "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message news:JvKdnT5x0qYUQv_bnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Thanks Jeff, et. al. Looks like I will disconnect rear shaft. > > Trip is from Seattle to San Antonio (approx 2300 miles) > Towing my Jeep on a U-Haull dolly behind a Jeep Grand Cherokee. With gas > at $3.00 + a gallon, it will make for a pricey trip. Oh well. > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:hik8i.958$Uy4.124@trndny09... >> >> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message >> news:iMOdneBIWf62APzbnZ2dnUVZ_tCtnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>> Thanks folks. >>> Just out of curiousity; If I were to leave the drive shaft connected and >>> leave the tranny in gear and the transfer case in nuetral, why do I need >>> to start the engine every couple hundred miles? It seems to me if the >>> drive shaft is spinning, so are the gears inside the transfer case and >>> Tranny. I >> >> >> >> Because the output shaft of the tcase is above the oil level, so it spins >> dry unless the transmission is providing input -- which it isn't doing >> while being towed on a dolly. When the tcase is set to N, the output >> shaft is disconnected right where it enters the tcase from the rear end. >> The tcase internals are at rest in this condition, causing the bearing on >> the output shaft to be dry. >> >> The Front Driveshaft is below the oil level, so one could surmise that if >> the front hubs were locked and the Jeep was being flat-towed, then the >> front tires would drive the front driveshaft which would drive the >> internals of the tcase which would throw oil onto the output shaft >> connected to the rear wheels, and thereby keep the bearing we are worried >> about bathed in oil. But, you are using a tow dolly, so this doesn't >> apply to you. >> >> >> >> >> >>> dont get it. >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>> news:K2X7i.18$443.8@trnddc05... >>>> You should disconnect the driveshaft at the rear diff and suspend it >>>> with some rope or bungee cords. >>>> >>>> Obviously, you want to secure the the shaft so it will not fall out, >>>> but it is okay to leave it connected to the tcase. >>>> >>>> The problem you have with leaving it connected is that you have to stop >>>> periodically and allow the motor to run so that the tcase spins and >>>> throws oil onto the Output Shaft Bearing. This bearing will dry out and >>>> suffer damage, but you can avoid all the fuss by disconnecting the >>>> driveshaft. >>>> >>>> And, you do not want the tranny in Neutal, you want the tcase in >>>> Neutral. The tranny should remain engaged in 1st or Reverse. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message >>>> news:ndydnUtoCqfj6sLbnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>>>>I am towing my 1986 Jeep CJ-7 on a U-Haul tow dolly (front wheels off >>>>>the ground, rear wheels on the ground) I think I have a T-176 manual >>>>>tranny. Do I need to disconnect the rear drive-shaft or can I just put >>>>>the tranny in nuetral and tow it. Any suggestions will be helpful. >>>>>Thanks >>>> >>> >> > |
Re: Towing my CJ-7 across country
The biggest benefit to a real trailer would be trailer brakes.
tw Jeff Strickland wrote: > You're welcome. Drive safe ... > > I don't know the difference in price between the dolloy and a trailer, > but I think I'd be more comfortable with the trailer. For one thing, the > dolly is a royal bitch to back up, indeed I think it is impossible > because it will jack knife. When I was dragging my Jeep to the desert, I > flat towed, and on the few occasions I needed to back up, I had to have > my daugher hold the steering wheel straight, and even then I could only > back up a couple of feet, just enough to give room in front of the > mo'home to clear whatever was there. The dolly has a pivot point that > will make the unit jack knife even if you have somebody to hold the > steering wheel for you. > > I don't know if the trailer would be a cheaper pull in terms of rolling > resistance and that sort of thing ... > > Anyhow, have a nice drive and keep the greasy side down. > > > > > > "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message > news:JvKdnT5x0qYUQv_bnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >> Thanks Jeff, et. al. Looks like I will disconnect rear shaft. >> >> Trip is from Seattle to San Antonio (approx 2300 miles) >> Towing my Jeep on a U-Haull dolly behind a Jeep Grand Cherokee. With >> gas at $3.00 + a gallon, it will make for a pricey trip. Oh well. >> >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:hik8i.958$Uy4.124@trndny09... >> >>> >>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message >>> news:iMOdneBIWf62APzbnZ2dnUVZ_tCtnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>> >>>> Thanks folks. >>>> Just out of curiousity; If I were to leave the drive shaft connected >>>> and leave the tranny in gear and the transfer case in nuetral, why >>>> do I need to start the engine every couple hundred miles? It seems >>>> to me if the drive shaft is spinning, so are the gears inside the >>>> transfer case and Tranny. I >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Because the output shaft of the tcase is above the oil level, so it >>> spins dry unless the transmission is providing input -- which it >>> isn't doing while being towed on a dolly. When the tcase is set to N, >>> the output shaft is disconnected right where it enters the tcase from >>> the rear end. The tcase internals are at rest in this condition, >>> causing the bearing on the output shaft to be dry. >>> >>> The Front Driveshaft is below the oil level, so one could surmise >>> that if the front hubs were locked and the Jeep was being flat-towed, >>> then the front tires would drive the front driveshaft which would >>> drive the internals of the tcase which would throw oil onto the >>> output shaft connected to the rear wheels, and thereby keep the >>> bearing we are worried about bathed in oil. But, you are using a tow >>> dolly, so this doesn't apply to you. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> dont get it. >>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>> news:K2X7i.18$443.8@trnddc05... >>>> >>>>> You should disconnect the driveshaft at the rear diff and suspend >>>>> it with some rope or bungee cords. >>>>> >>>>> Obviously, you want to secure the the shaft so it will not fall >>>>> out, but it is okay to leave it connected to the tcase. >>>>> >>>>> The problem you have with leaving it connected is that you have to >>>>> stop periodically and allow the motor to run so that the tcase >>>>> spins and throws oil onto the Output Shaft Bearing. This bearing >>>>> will dry out and suffer damage, but you can avoid all the fuss by >>>>> disconnecting the driveshaft. >>>>> >>>>> And, you do not want the tranny in Neutal, you want the tcase in >>>>> Neutral. The tranny should remain engaged in 1st or Reverse. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:ndydnUtoCqfj6sLbnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>>>> >>>>>> I am towing my 1986 Jeep CJ-7 on a U-Haul tow dolly (front wheels >>>>>> off the ground, rear wheels on the ground) I think I have a T-176 >>>>>> manual tranny. Do I need to disconnect the rear drive-shaft or can >>>>>> I just put the tranny in nuetral and tow it. Any suggestions will >>>>>> be helpful. Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- PLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. |
Re: Towing my CJ-7 across country
The biggest benefit to a real trailer would be trailer brakes.
tw Jeff Strickland wrote: > You're welcome. Drive safe ... > > I don't know the difference in price between the dolloy and a trailer, > but I think I'd be more comfortable with the trailer. For one thing, the > dolly is a royal bitch to back up, indeed I think it is impossible > because it will jack knife. When I was dragging my Jeep to the desert, I > flat towed, and on the few occasions I needed to back up, I had to have > my daugher hold the steering wheel straight, and even then I could only > back up a couple of feet, just enough to give room in front of the > mo'home to clear whatever was there. The dolly has a pivot point that > will make the unit jack knife even if you have somebody to hold the > steering wheel for you. > > I don't know if the trailer would be a cheaper pull in terms of rolling > resistance and that sort of thing ... > > Anyhow, have a nice drive and keep the greasy side down. > > > > > > "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message > news:JvKdnT5x0qYUQv_bnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >> Thanks Jeff, et. al. Looks like I will disconnect rear shaft. >> >> Trip is from Seattle to San Antonio (approx 2300 miles) >> Towing my Jeep on a U-Haull dolly behind a Jeep Grand Cherokee. With >> gas at $3.00 + a gallon, it will make for a pricey trip. Oh well. >> >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:hik8i.958$Uy4.124@trndny09... >> >>> >>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message >>> news:iMOdneBIWf62APzbnZ2dnUVZ_tCtnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>> >>>> Thanks folks. >>>> Just out of curiousity; If I were to leave the drive shaft connected >>>> and leave the tranny in gear and the transfer case in nuetral, why >>>> do I need to start the engine every couple hundred miles? It seems >>>> to me if the drive shaft is spinning, so are the gears inside the >>>> transfer case and Tranny. I >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Because the output shaft of the tcase is above the oil level, so it >>> spins dry unless the transmission is providing input -- which it >>> isn't doing while being towed on a dolly. When the tcase is set to N, >>> the output shaft is disconnected right where it enters the tcase from >>> the rear end. The tcase internals are at rest in this condition, >>> causing the bearing on the output shaft to be dry. >>> >>> The Front Driveshaft is below the oil level, so one could surmise >>> that if the front hubs were locked and the Jeep was being flat-towed, >>> then the front tires would drive the front driveshaft which would >>> drive the internals of the tcase which would throw oil onto the >>> output shaft connected to the rear wheels, and thereby keep the >>> bearing we are worried about bathed in oil. But, you are using a tow >>> dolly, so this doesn't apply to you. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> dont get it. >>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>> news:K2X7i.18$443.8@trnddc05... >>>> >>>>> You should disconnect the driveshaft at the rear diff and suspend >>>>> it with some rope or bungee cords. >>>>> >>>>> Obviously, you want to secure the the shaft so it will not fall >>>>> out, but it is okay to leave it connected to the tcase. >>>>> >>>>> The problem you have with leaving it connected is that you have to >>>>> stop periodically and allow the motor to run so that the tcase >>>>> spins and throws oil onto the Output Shaft Bearing. This bearing >>>>> will dry out and suffer damage, but you can avoid all the fuss by >>>>> disconnecting the driveshaft. >>>>> >>>>> And, you do not want the tranny in Neutal, you want the tcase in >>>>> Neutral. The tranny should remain engaged in 1st or Reverse. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:ndydnUtoCqfj6sLbnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>>>> >>>>>> I am towing my 1986 Jeep CJ-7 on a U-Haul tow dolly (front wheels >>>>>> off the ground, rear wheels on the ground) I think I have a T-176 >>>>>> manual tranny. Do I need to disconnect the rear drive-shaft or can >>>>>> I just put the tranny in nuetral and tow it. Any suggestions will >>>>>> be helpful. Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- PLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. |
Re: Towing my CJ-7 across country
The biggest benefit to a real trailer would be trailer brakes.
tw Jeff Strickland wrote: > You're welcome. Drive safe ... > > I don't know the difference in price between the dolloy and a trailer, > but I think I'd be more comfortable with the trailer. For one thing, the > dolly is a royal bitch to back up, indeed I think it is impossible > because it will jack knife. When I was dragging my Jeep to the desert, I > flat towed, and on the few occasions I needed to back up, I had to have > my daugher hold the steering wheel straight, and even then I could only > back up a couple of feet, just enough to give room in front of the > mo'home to clear whatever was there. The dolly has a pivot point that > will make the unit jack knife even if you have somebody to hold the > steering wheel for you. > > I don't know if the trailer would be a cheaper pull in terms of rolling > resistance and that sort of thing ... > > Anyhow, have a nice drive and keep the greasy side down. > > > > > > "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message > news:JvKdnT5x0qYUQv_bnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >> Thanks Jeff, et. al. Looks like I will disconnect rear shaft. >> >> Trip is from Seattle to San Antonio (approx 2300 miles) >> Towing my Jeep on a U-Haull dolly behind a Jeep Grand Cherokee. With >> gas at $3.00 + a gallon, it will make for a pricey trip. Oh well. >> >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:hik8i.958$Uy4.124@trndny09... >> >>> >>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message >>> news:iMOdneBIWf62APzbnZ2dnUVZ_tCtnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>> >>>> Thanks folks. >>>> Just out of curiousity; If I were to leave the drive shaft connected >>>> and leave the tranny in gear and the transfer case in nuetral, why >>>> do I need to start the engine every couple hundred miles? It seems >>>> to me if the drive shaft is spinning, so are the gears inside the >>>> transfer case and Tranny. I >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Because the output shaft of the tcase is above the oil level, so it >>> spins dry unless the transmission is providing input -- which it >>> isn't doing while being towed on a dolly. When the tcase is set to N, >>> the output shaft is disconnected right where it enters the tcase from >>> the rear end. The tcase internals are at rest in this condition, >>> causing the bearing on the output shaft to be dry. >>> >>> The Front Driveshaft is below the oil level, so one could surmise >>> that if the front hubs were locked and the Jeep was being flat-towed, >>> then the front tires would drive the front driveshaft which would >>> drive the internals of the tcase which would throw oil onto the >>> output shaft connected to the rear wheels, and thereby keep the >>> bearing we are worried about bathed in oil. But, you are using a tow >>> dolly, so this doesn't apply to you. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> dont get it. >>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>> news:K2X7i.18$443.8@trnddc05... >>>> >>>>> You should disconnect the driveshaft at the rear diff and suspend >>>>> it with some rope or bungee cords. >>>>> >>>>> Obviously, you want to secure the the shaft so it will not fall >>>>> out, but it is okay to leave it connected to the tcase. >>>>> >>>>> The problem you have with leaving it connected is that you have to >>>>> stop periodically and allow the motor to run so that the tcase >>>>> spins and throws oil onto the Output Shaft Bearing. This bearing >>>>> will dry out and suffer damage, but you can avoid all the fuss by >>>>> disconnecting the driveshaft. >>>>> >>>>> And, you do not want the tranny in Neutal, you want the tcase in >>>>> Neutral. The tranny should remain engaged in 1st or Reverse. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:ndydnUtoCqfj6sLbnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>>>> >>>>>> I am towing my 1986 Jeep CJ-7 on a U-Haul tow dolly (front wheels >>>>>> off the ground, rear wheels on the ground) I think I have a T-176 >>>>>> manual tranny. Do I need to disconnect the rear drive-shaft or can >>>>>> I just put the tranny in nuetral and tow it. Any suggestions will >>>>>> be helpful. Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- PLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. |
Re: Towing my CJ-7 across country
The biggest benefit to a real trailer would be trailer brakes.
tw Jeff Strickland wrote: > You're welcome. Drive safe ... > > I don't know the difference in price between the dolloy and a trailer, > but I think I'd be more comfortable with the trailer. For one thing, the > dolly is a royal bitch to back up, indeed I think it is impossible > because it will jack knife. When I was dragging my Jeep to the desert, I > flat towed, and on the few occasions I needed to back up, I had to have > my daugher hold the steering wheel straight, and even then I could only > back up a couple of feet, just enough to give room in front of the > mo'home to clear whatever was there. The dolly has a pivot point that > will make the unit jack knife even if you have somebody to hold the > steering wheel for you. > > I don't know if the trailer would be a cheaper pull in terms of rolling > resistance and that sort of thing ... > > Anyhow, have a nice drive and keep the greasy side down. > > > > > > "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message > news:JvKdnT5x0qYUQv_bnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >> Thanks Jeff, et. al. Looks like I will disconnect rear shaft. >> >> Trip is from Seattle to San Antonio (approx 2300 miles) >> Towing my Jeep on a U-Haull dolly behind a Jeep Grand Cherokee. With >> gas at $3.00 + a gallon, it will make for a pricey trip. Oh well. >> >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:hik8i.958$Uy4.124@trndny09... >> >>> >>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message >>> news:iMOdneBIWf62APzbnZ2dnUVZ_tCtnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>> >>>> Thanks folks. >>>> Just out of curiousity; If I were to leave the drive shaft connected >>>> and leave the tranny in gear and the transfer case in nuetral, why >>>> do I need to start the engine every couple hundred miles? It seems >>>> to me if the drive shaft is spinning, so are the gears inside the >>>> transfer case and Tranny. I >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Because the output shaft of the tcase is above the oil level, so it >>> spins dry unless the transmission is providing input -- which it >>> isn't doing while being towed on a dolly. When the tcase is set to N, >>> the output shaft is disconnected right where it enters the tcase from >>> the rear end. The tcase internals are at rest in this condition, >>> causing the bearing on the output shaft to be dry. >>> >>> The Front Driveshaft is below the oil level, so one could surmise >>> that if the front hubs were locked and the Jeep was being flat-towed, >>> then the front tires would drive the front driveshaft which would >>> drive the internals of the tcase which would throw oil onto the >>> output shaft connected to the rear wheels, and thereby keep the >>> bearing we are worried about bathed in oil. But, you are using a tow >>> dolly, so this doesn't apply to you. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> dont get it. >>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>> news:K2X7i.18$443.8@trnddc05... >>>> >>>>> You should disconnect the driveshaft at the rear diff and suspend >>>>> it with some rope or bungee cords. >>>>> >>>>> Obviously, you want to secure the the shaft so it will not fall >>>>> out, but it is okay to leave it connected to the tcase. >>>>> >>>>> The problem you have with leaving it connected is that you have to >>>>> stop periodically and allow the motor to run so that the tcase >>>>> spins and throws oil onto the Output Shaft Bearing. This bearing >>>>> will dry out and suffer damage, but you can avoid all the fuss by >>>>> disconnecting the driveshaft. >>>>> >>>>> And, you do not want the tranny in Neutal, you want the tcase in >>>>> Neutral. The tranny should remain engaged in 1st or Reverse. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:ndydnUtoCqfj6sLbnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>>>> >>>>>> I am towing my 1986 Jeep CJ-7 on a U-Haul tow dolly (front wheels >>>>>> off the ground, rear wheels on the ground) I think I have a T-176 >>>>>> manual tranny. Do I need to disconnect the rear drive-shaft or can >>>>>> I just put the tranny in nuetral and tow it. Any suggestions will >>>>>> be helpful. Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- PLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. |
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